拥抱现实:摆脱手机束缚,重拾连接与好奇心的三种习惯 TED 2026-03-25

科技与真实连接的悖论:重拾旧习惯

Nayeema Raza: 我靠提问为生,采访像 马克·库班尼尔·德格拉斯·泰森埃丝特·珀尔比尔·奈 这样的专家。这些各自领域的佼佼者。而我今年听到的最令人惊讶的答案,来自两个11岁的孩子,名叫 苏菲迪兰。他们也是当今孩子的专家。所以我问他们,和屏幕上的人共度时光,感觉和现实生活有什么不同?

Original English

Nayeema Raza: I ask questions for a living to people like Mark Cuban, Neil deGrasse Tyson, Esther Perel, Bill Nye. These masters of their field. And the most surprising answer I heard this year was from two 11-year-olds named Sophie and Dilan. They too are experts in being kids these days. So I asked them, how does time with people on screens feel different than real life?

Sophie: 在 FaceTime 上时,会让你觉得和他们在一起的时间更多。

Original English

(Video) Sophie: It just makes you feel more with them when you're on FaceTime.

Nayeema Raza: 比现实生活更甚?

Original English

Nayeema Raza: Even more than real life?

Sophie: 是的,因为你们会一起做事情。比如一起玩 Roblox。因为如今,当你和他们在一起时,每个人都在玩手机。

Original English

Sophie: Yeah, because you're doing stuff together. Like maybe playing Roblox together. Because nowadays, when you’re with them, everyone’s on their phones.

Nayeema Raza: 苏菲指出了一个深刻的悖论。当我们实际在一起时,我们各自都在手机上独处。但当我们沉浸在手机里时,那才是我们能够真正在一起的时刻。想要不被设备分心的最佳方式?就是“钻进”设备里。如今,这些11岁的孩子并非在谈论某个遥远、焦虑的世代。他们在谈论我们每个人。他们绝对在谈论我,以及一个日益由机器驱动的世界。

Original English

NR: Sophie's pointing out a profound paradox. When we are together physically, we are each alone on our phones. But when we're in our phones, that's when we can be together. The best way to not be distracted by your device? Just get inside of it. Now these 11-year-olds are not talking about some distant, anxious generation. They're talking about each of us. They're definitely talking about me and about a world that's increasingly driven by machines.

Nayeema Raza: 所以我偶然发现了一个关于这可能是什么样子的极端比喻。有一个人被困在了一辆 Waymo 里,车一直在绕圈行驶。他打电话给客服,结果发现他不是唯一被困住的人。

Original English

So I stumbled upon an extreme metaphor for what this could look like. And it's this guy who's locked in a Waymo, and it's driving him in circles. So he calls customer service and finds out he's not the only one trapped.

Woman: 关于车辆的情况。如果您打开了您的应用程序,请点击应用左下角的“我的行程”。

Original English

(Video) Woman: Working with the situation of the vehicle. If you have your app pulled up, I need you to tap My Trip on the lower left corner of your app.

Man: 你不能直接操作吗?你应该能处理。接管这辆车。不需要我的手机。

Original English

Man: Can't you just do it? You should be able to handle it. Take over the car. You don't need my phone.

Woman: 我没有其他选择。

Original English

Woman: I don't have an option.

Nayeema Raza: 想到科技末日阿诺·施瓦辛格 的《终结者》那样,听起来很酷,但它可能比那要平凡得多。仅仅是我们被困在原地打转,受制于下拉菜单,各种小工具将我们彼此隔离开,与自己的身体疏远,与我们的好奇心隔绝。因为如今,当我们有疑问时,我们不再等待然后打电话给朋友。我们“朋友化”我们的手机。

Original English

NR: It is sexy to think that the tech apocalypse is Arnold Schwarzenegger and "The Terminator," but it could be so much more mundane than that. Just us driven in circles, held hostage by drop-down menus, with gadgets, disintermediating us from each other, from our own bodies and from our curiosities. Because nowadays, when we have a question, we don't wait and phone a friend. We friend our phones.

Nayeema Raza: 拥有这些触手可及的知识,确实感觉非常强大。然而,麻省理工学院 (MIT) 的早期研究告诉我们,这让我们变得更懒惰、更不聪明,并且肯定让我们联系减少。这并非我们父母和祖父母当年看到 AT&T 的这则古老广告时被推销的愿景,广告词是:“伸出援手,触摸一个人”。当然,出于各种原因,这句话在今天肯定行不通。(笑声)但它又有些令人意外地具有预见性,因为我们从未像现在这样连接得如此紧密,却又如此疏远。

Original English

And that feels so empowering to have all of this knowledge at our fingertips. Yet early research from MIT tells us it's making us lazier and less smart, and it is definitely making us less connected. This is not what our parents and grandparents were sold when they saw this relic of an ad from AT&T which says, "Reach out and touch someone." And yes, for all kinds of reasons, it would not go down well today. (Laughter) But it is oddly prescient because we have never been more connected and more out of touch.

Nayeema Raza: 我并非反对科技。我作为一名记者,实际上就在报道科技。我拥有市面上所有的电子产品,而且大多数时候,我觉得我与我的 ChatGPT(或者我喜欢叫他“Chat Daddy”)建立了某种关系。(笑声)我提倡以人为本。

Original English

Now I’m not anti-tech. I actually cover it as a journalist. I have every gadget under the sun, and most days I think I'm in a relationship with my ChatGPT, or as I like to call him, Chat Daddy. (Laughter) I am pro-human.

Nayeema Raza: 随着我们步入一个 AI 世界——仅今天你可能就读了 471.5 篇关于它的文章——我想为一些旧习惯进行辩护。其中三个。并告诉你我是如何艰难地学会它们的。第一是“暂停”,在你感到想去拿你的“数字奶嘴”时,给自己一秒钟。顺便说一句,一秒就是这么长。研究表明,在采取行动前等待这么久,能让你的大脑更好地工作。

Original English

And as we progress into an AI world that you've read 471.5 articles about today alone, I want to make a case for old habits. Three of them. And tell you how I learned them the hard way. The first is to pause, to take just one second when you feel that urge to reach for your digital pacifier. This, by the way, is a second. Studies show waiting that long before taking action lets your brain work better.

Nayeema Raza: 第二个是“好奇”。看一部电影,不要去谷歌搜索演员是谁,他还演过什么,他多大年纪,他单身吗?你可以沉浸在自己的好奇心之中,而不是被信息淹没。第三个是再次大声提问。在晚餐聚会上争论一番,而不是偷偷玩手机。去问那些你认为自己无法从他们那里学到东西的人,或者你认为自己对他们了如指掌的人。因为我们能成为的最愚蠢的事情,就是自以为无所不知。

Original English

The second is to wonder. Watch a movie without googling who the actor is and what else is he in, and how old he is, and is he single? You can float in your own curiosity instead of drown in information. And the third is to ask a question out loud again. Have that fight at a dinner party instead of playing footsie with your phone. Ask something to someone you thought you couldn't learn from, or someone you think you know everything about. Because the dumbest thing we can be is know-it-alls.

Nayeema Raza: 几年前,我父亲去世了。在他临终前的那几天,我整天盯着设备。它们提供了所有答案:他临终关怀护士的电话号码,多久给他用一次吗啡,需要注意的迹象,他的心跳。但当他在周日去世时——比数据和生命体征预测的早一天——那一刻我才明白。那些旧习惯才是真正重要的。

Original English

A few years ago, my father passed. In the days leading up to it, I was glued to devices. They had all these answers. The number to his hospice nurse, how often to give them morphine, the signs to look out for, his heartbeat. But when he passed on a Sunday, a day before the data and the vitals suggested he would, that's when it hit me. The old habits were what mattered.

Nayeema Raza: 那些暂停的几秒钟累积起来,变成了更多的分钟。对我们有限生命的,那种奇怪而令人恐惧的惊奇感。以及人们问我的那些小问题,比如“我怎样才能在你身边支持你?” 苏菲说得有道理,但我们是成年人,我们还记得当技术存在之前,临在感、好奇心和连接是如何可能实现的。如果我们希望将这些传递给新一代,我们就必须练习这些旧习惯。如果我们想教他们,如何在相聚时真正地在一起。对吧,Chat Daddy?谢谢。(掌声)

Original English

Those seconds of pause that added up to minutes more. That weird and scary wonder about our own finite lives. And the little questions people ask me, like, "How can I be there for you?" Sophie was on to something, but we're grown ups, and we remember when presence and curiosity and connection were possible outside of technology. We have to practice these old habits if we hope to pass them on to a new generation. If we want to teach them how to be together when we are together. Right, Chat Daddy? Thank you. (Applause)

📌 文中提及的人物和组织

公司/组织: Waymo

产品/模型: ChatGPT

媒体/书籍: The Terminator

关键字: digital-detox human-connection curiosity ai-impact