--- author: TVO Today date: '2026-03-29' guest: '' layout: post.njk source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFUJtMEahZY speaker: TVO Today tags: - canadian-humor - comedy-origins - cultural-identity - satire - film-history title: 加拿大幽默的独特基因：从银幕到笑声 summary: 本期节目探讨加拿大幽默的独特魅力与发展历程，从**艾尔维·约斯特**的**《Saturday Night at the Movies》**节目出发，回顾了**丹·艾克罗伊德**、**马丁·肖特**、**约翰·坎迪**等喜剧巨匠的成名之路，重点介绍了**SCTV**和**Second City**等重要平台。节目还分析了加拿大幽默的**讽刺**、**距离感**及**文化自觉**特质，并通过**诺曼·朱威森**的电影**《莫斯科来的客人，莫斯科来的客人》**展示了其独特的视角与洞察力。 insight: '' draft: true series: '' category: culture-history area: society-thinking project: [] people: [] companies_orgs: - SCTV - Second City - SNL - TVO products_models: [] media_books: - The Off-Islanders status: evergreen --- ### 加拿大幽默的起源与探索 **旁白**: 从1974年到2013年，由深受喜爱的**艾尔维·约斯特**创作的**《Saturday Night at the Movies》**节目，揭开了电影魔幻的帷幕。在本系列中，我们深入探索**TVO**珍贵的档案，发掘常常是前所未见的素材，揭示银幕背后的秘密以及创造它们的大师们。
Original English NARRATOR: From 1974 to 2013, Saturday Night at the Movies, created by the beloved Elwy Yost, pulled back the curtain on the magic of cinema. In this series, we delve into TVO's treasured archives to uncover often never-before-seen footage, revealing the secrets of the silver screen from the legends who built it.
**旁白**: “那么，我建议你继续前进。多年来，我采访过加拿大许多著名的喜剧明星，包括**戴夫·托马斯**、**迈克·梅尔斯**，以及今年的**莱斯利·尼尔森**，我总是觉得，就像**马丁·肖特**一样，他们都非常认真地对待喜剧事业。”
Original English So, I suggest you go ahead and make your move. I've spoken to many of Canada's most famous comedy stars over the years, including Dave Thomas, Mike Myers, and this year even Leslie Nielsen, and it always strikes me that, like Martin Short, they're all extremely serious about the business of comedy.
**旁白**: “能接受你的采访真是太荣幸了，嗯？我的意思是，这并不总是黑暗而紧张的，非常有趣。我们来这儿不是为了度过糟糕时光，对吧？人们喜欢笑。”
Original English It's a real pleasure being interviewed by you, eh? I mean, it's not all intense in a dark way, it's very fun. We didn't come here to have a bad time, did we? People love to laugh.
**旁白**: “孩子们很讨厌在我家万圣节讨糖。我爸会往他们袋子里倒米。（观众笑）‘拿回家煮吧，比你想象的要多。’”
Original English Kids hated trick-or-treating at my house. My dad's pouring rice into their bag. (Audience laughing) "Take it home and boil it. There's more than you think."
**旁白**: “笑声被誉为‘即时度假’，而有一个目的地堪称翘楚。♪ O Canada ♪”
Original English Laughter has been called an instant vacation and there's one standout destination. ♪ O Canada ♪
**旁白**: “虽然人口不多，但它却是幽默界的重要力量，孕育了地球上一些最伟大、最受喜爱的明星。**丹·艾克罗伊德**在我们国家是神。我来自加拿大。（艾尔维大笑）你能想象吗？有那么多人，比如**菲尔·哈特曼**，人们会说，‘我不知道他是加拿大人。’**吉姆·凯瑞**是加拿大人吗？”
Original English Though small in population, it's a heavyweight in humour, producing some of the biggest and most beloved stars on the planet. Dan Ackroyd is a God in our country. I'm from Canada. (Elwy laughing) Can you imagine that? There's so many of them, like Phil Hartman, and people go, "I didn't know he's Canadian." Is Jim Carrey a Canadian?
**艾尔维·约斯特**: “**吉姆·凯瑞**、**约翰·坎迪**和**艾克罗伊德**。”
Original English ELWY: Jim Carrey and John Candy and Ackroyd.
**男人**: “是的，是的，还有**马丁·肖特**。这些是我上学时被骂、被开除的——因为做这些事，现在他们却付钱给我。抱歉，不后悔。我也讲笑话。”
Original English MAN: Yeah, yeah, and Martin Short. This is stuff I got yelled at at school and kicked out of school to do-- for doing, and now they're paying me. Sorry, not sorry. I also tell jokes.
**旁白**: “加拿大人有一种古怪的幽默感。他们曾是最可爱的小夫妻，你会想要看到的。是不是只想把他们放在蛋糕顶上？”
Original English Canadians have a wacko sense of humour. They were the cutest little couple you ever did want to see. Kind of just want to put them on top of a cake, don't you?
**旁白**: “也许是水里有什么东西。我觉得，‘**加拿大**’这个身份很奇怪。”
Original English Perhaps there's something in the water. I think that being Canadian is an odd thing.
**尤金·列维**: “我不知道这是否源于眼神。我不知道这是否源于眉毛。我经常会想，这是因为人们彼此之间的孤立，因为你没有——而且你度过了那些漫长、孤独、寒冷的冬天。你不得不找些方式来说‘天好冷’，然后把它变得有趣。我一直有种感觉，我是一个‘次等’的美国公民。”
Original English EUGENE LEVY: I don't know whether it comes from the eyes. I don't know whether it comes from the eyebrows. I really often would think it was because of the isolation of the people from each other, because you didn't-- and you spent those long, lonely, cold winters. You had to find ways to say "Boy, it's cold" to make it funny. I always had the feeling that I was a US citizen once removed.
**马丁·肖特**: “人们认为加拿大人是那些想成为美国人但没拿到证件的人，这不对。我们可以退后一步，拥有客观性，这可以转化为喜剧的解读。所以，那些叛逆者试图逗笑某人，然后让他们陷入麻烦。”
Original English MARTIN SHORT: People think of Canadians as people who would like to be Americans, but don't have the papers, and this is not sure. We could stand back and have the objectivity that can lend itself to a comedic interpretation. That's why the rebels try to make someone laugh and get them in trouble.
**萨曼莎·比**: “早期，《**Daily Show**》，我记得有一次在会议上说，‘美国帝国主义’，然后我接着说了下去，每个人都像，‘你说什么？’”
Original English SAMANTHA BEE: Early days, Daily Show, I remember in a meeting once saying, you know, "American imperialism," and then I moved on in the sentence and everyone was like, "Excuse me?"
**约翰·兰迪斯**: “唐纳德在他的演讲中有一个奇怪的排泄物。他说，‘嗯？’他说，‘天气不错，嗯？’我想，‘这‘嗯’到底是什么意思？’”
Original English JOHN LANDIS: Donald had the weirdest defecation in his speech. He used to say, "Eh." He'd go, "Nice day, eh? And I thought, "What the hell is with that eh?"
**约翰·兰迪斯**: “没错。当我开始做**《Animal House》**时，我和**伊万·赖特曼**一起工作，**伊万**也经常说‘嗯’。我当时不明白。直到我和**丹尼·艾克罗伊德**一起做**《The Blues Brothers》**时，我才——（拍手）——‘豁然开朗！我明白了！’就像，‘哦，这是加拿大人特有的。’”
Original English Precisely. When I started to work on Animal House, I was working with Ivan Reitman, and Ivan used to say "eh" too. Didn't understand it. And it wasn't until I was working with Danny Ackroyd on The Blues Brothers when I went-- (Snapping fingers) "--Eureka! I understood!" It was like, "Oh, it's a Canadian thing."
**旁白**: “现在呢？融合了戏仿、历史和经典文学，并带有一丝加拿大风情，**韦恩和舒斯特**带来了每个人都能欣赏的巧妙笑话。”
Original English What now? NARRATOR: Blending parody, history, and classic literature with a touch of Canuck charm, Wayne and Shuster delivered smart jokes everyone could enjoy.
**旁白**: “我的驾照号码是 IXIVLLCCDIXMV。它也很方便用作眼科检查图。（观众笑）如果你能读出来，你就不用戴眼镜了。”
Original English My license number is IXIVLLCCDIXMV. Also comes in handy as an eye chart. (Audience laughing) If you can read it, you don't need glasses.
**旁白**: “他们创纪录地在**《The Ed Sullivan Show》**上亮相了67次，成为了家喻户晓的名字，并将**加拿大幽默** firmly on the world stage，这份遗产至今仍在延续。”
Original English Appearing on The Ed Sullivan Show a record 67 times, they became household names and placed Canadian humour firmly on the world stage, a legacy that endures.
**旁白**: “舒斯特的女儿**罗西·舒斯特**嫁给了另一位加拿大喜剧传奇人物**洛恩·迈克尔斯**，并且是**《Saturday Night Live》**的原创编剧之一，并帮助其启动。”
Original English Rosie Shuster, Shuster's daughter, married another Canadian comedy legend, Lorne Michaels, and was one of the original writers and helped launch Saturday Night Live.
**旁白**: “加拿大不断输出世界级的喜剧，但是什么秘密枫糖浆让它如此独特和鲜明地‘加拿大’呢？”
Original English Canada keeps exporting world-class comedy, but what is the secret maple syrup that makes it so unique and distinctly Canadian?
**旁白**: “我们就像这些喜剧界的联合国部队，戴着蓝色贝雷帽，拿着黄色便签本，你知道吗？试图审视世界，弄清楚，你知道，我们不是什么。”
Original English We're sort of like these comedic United Nation troops with blue berets and yellow pads, you know? Sort of trying to look at the world to figure out, you know, what we are not.
**艾尔维·约斯特**: “那么，我们真的那么好笑吗？”
Original English ELWY: So, are we really that funny?
**旁白**: “嗯，我认为是性格。我们有一种强烈的独立性。首先，我们的文化不是导向‘大熔炉’的。它更像是‘沙拉碗’。”
Original English Well, I think it is the character. There's a fierce independence that we have. First of all, our culture is not geared towards melting pot. It's more geared towards salad bowl.
**旁白**: “1949年，**纽芬兰**成为一个省，在此之前它是一个英国保护地。我们直到64年才有了自己的国旗。我们直到82年才有了自己的宪法。美国在O.K.马车夫事件中发生了枪战。我们则在O.K.马车夫事件中进行了苏格拉底式的对话。他们进行了革命。我们写了一部巧妙的立法文件。我的意思是，我们是缺席——我们既不是美国人也不是英国人，然后我们对世界说，‘你们自己去弄明白吧。’”
Original English 1949, Newfoundland became a province and until then it was a British protectorate. We only got our own flag in '64. We only got our own constitution in '82. America had a gunfight at the O.K. Corral. We had a Socratic dialogue at the O.K. Corral. They had a revolution. We had a cleverly written piece of legislation. I mean, we're the absence-- we're neither American nor British, and then we say to the rest of the world, "And figure that one out."
**旁白**: “我有一本——我爸爸的老版百科全书。”
Original English I have one of those-- My dad's old encyclopaedias.
**艾尔维·约斯特**: “你在**汉密尔顿**长大，有想过你的生活会朝着这个方向发展，并取得如此成功吗？”
Original English ELWY: Did you ever have any idea growing up in Hamilton that your life would take this direction and you'd become so successful?
**旁白**: “不，我本想当医生。不是因为我关心科学。我只是**理查德·张伯伦**作品的粉丝。我的意思是，我曾幻想过演艺生涯，你知道吗？如果我坐上西**汉密尔顿**的巴士回我长大的**西代尔**，我会坐在后面，那里的窗户像那样弯曲，我会挥手假装在私人飞机上。你知道，对粉丝和媒体。”
Original English No, I was going to be a doctor. It wasn't that I cared about science. I was just a fan of Richard Chamberlain's work. I mean, I used to have a fantasy showbiz life, you know? If I were on the West Hamilton bus heading back into Westdale, where I grew up, and I'd sit at the back where the windows were curved like that, and I'd wave up pretending I was on a private plane. You know, to fans and press.
**旁白**: “**奥斯卡奖**，你从没想过——嗯，那只是——那就像另一个星球。”
Original English The Academy Awards, you never thought-- Well, that's just-- It seemed like another planet.
**旁白**: “这些喜剧演员让我们发笑，但他们受到了谁的启发？”
Original English These comedians make us laugh, but who inspired them?
**旁白**: “我一直觉得我是‘涓滴式喜剧’的受益者。我父亲很有趣。我母亲也很有趣。我的哥哥**迈克尔**是一位获得两次**艾美奖**的喜剧编剧。所以，每个人都——这在家里很正常。主要的文化影响将是我的父亲对**彼得·塞勒斯**的喜爱。我父亲，我记得，买了一张**彼得·塞勒斯**的唱片，上面他扮演了许多不同的角色和声音。我当时想，‘这是谁？’我想他是我的——我最喜欢的。”
Original English I always felt I was, like, the recipient of trickle-down comedy. My father was funny. My mother was funny. My brother, Michael, is a two-time Emmy-winning comedy writer. So, everyone was kind of- that was the norm in the family. The main cultural influence would be my dad with Peter Sellers. My dad, I remember, bought a Peter Sellers record and on this he did, like, a whole bunch of different types of characters and voices. and I thought, "Who is this guy?" I think he was my-- my favourite of all.
**旁白**: “（咆哮，吠叫）我以为你说你的狗不咬人。那不是我的狗。”
Original English (Growling, barking) I thought you said your dog did not bite. That is not my dog.
**旁白**: “**杰基·格里森**、**乔纳森·温特斯**和**露西尔·鲍尔**。**《Beyond the Fringe》**、**《The Goons》**和**亚历克·吉尼斯**，**彼得·库克**和**达德利·摩尔**。**《Carry On》**电影和**本尼·希尔**。我提到了**《Python》**，对吧？吉尼斯理解了很多黑色喜剧，不是吗？她偷了钱，她会说的。杀人还能逍遥法外。”
Original English Jackie Gleason and Jonathan Winters and Lucille Ball. Beyond the Fringe and The Goons and Alec Guinness, Peter Cook and Dudley Moore. The Carry On movies and Benny Hill. I mentioned Python, didn't I? Guinness understood a lot of black comedies, didn't he? She stole the money, she'll talk. Murdering people and getting away with it. ♪
**旁白**: “我记得在电视上看**鲍勃·霍普**，觉得这个人，他演了那么多大片和各种东西，离我多么遥远。然后，通过**SCTV**，我通过模仿**鲍勃·霍普**实际上见到他了。现在，我看到了沙特人还没准备好应对的事情。今天她击球时，有几个油井爆炸了，我告诉你。但后来，随着时间的推移，在过去几年里，我做了几个特别节目，我发现自己身处**鲍勃·霍普**的家中，然后他看着一排照片，就像有总统、国王和王后，然后他走到一个点说，‘那是**尼尔·阿姆斯特朗**。他刚从月球回来就做了我的特辑。’那是个来自**邓达斯**的小男孩，在**好莱坞**和**鲍勃·霍普**在一起。还有，当然，**SCTV**。”
Original English I remember watching Bob Hope on TV and thinking how distant and how remote this guy, who had done all these big movies and everything,, then through SCTV I actually got to meet him through my impersonation of Bob Hope. Now, I've seen something the Saudis weren't quite ready for. There were a few blowouts on oil wells when she hit the green today, I want to tell you. But then, as time went on, over the last couple of years I've done a couple of specials and I found myself in Bob Hope's house, and then he's going down this row of photographs, and it's like there's presidents and kings and queens, and he gets to one point and he says, "There's Neil Armstrong. He did my special right after he got back from the moon." That was where the little boy from Dundas, being in Hollywood with Bob Hope. And the other thing, too, of course, is SCTV. ♪
**旁白**: “**Second City Television Network**，或**SCTV**，于1976年首播，是一个以虚构电视台为背景的聪明短剧喜剧节目。那是最棒的地方。**SCTV**就是那么聪明。73年，我试镜没通过。”
Original English NARRATOR: Second City Television Network, or SCTV, premiered in 1976 as a smart sketch comedy show set in a fictional TV station. It was the best place to be. SCTV was just so smart. In '73, I auditioned and didn't get in.
**旁白**: “源自**多伦多**著名的**Second City**即兴表演团，它开启了加拿大一些最传奇喜剧演员的职业生涯。我哥哥曾在**多伦多Second City剧院**当服务员，他为我和我姐姐**玛丽·玛格丽特**找了服务员的工作。1974年8月，**吉尔达·拉德纳**离开了。主要剧团去了**纽约**的**National Lampoon**，当然还有**《Saturday Night Live》**，而我则接替了她的位置。”
Original English Born from Toronto's renowned Second City improv troupe, it launched the careers of some of Canada's most legendary comedians. My brother was a waiter at Second City Theatre in Toronto, and he got my sister, Mary Margaret, and I jobs as waitresses. In August of '74, Gilda Radner left. The main company went to do National Lampoon in New York and, of course, on to Saturday Night Live, and I got to go in in her place.
**大卫**: “**丹·艾克罗伊德**、**吉尔达·拉德纳**、**约翰·坎迪**、**乔·弗拉赫蒂**、**凯瑟琳·欧哈拉**、**安德里亚·马丁**和**吉恩·利维**。这些人当时都在**多伦多**表演喜剧，而且这一切最终都成为了**SCTV**和**SNL**的一部分。它将尖锐的**讽刺**和独特的角色巧妙地融合，迅速使其成为喜剧的基石。从**马丁·肖特**的**杰瑞·刘易斯**到**约翰·坎迪**和**尤金·利维**的波尔卡乐队**Shmenge Brothers**。”
Original English DAVID: Dan Aykroyd and Gilda Radner and John Candy and Joe Flaherty and Catherine O'Hara and Andrea Martin and Gene Levy. All these people were, like, in Toronto being funny at the same time, and as it turned out, these people were all part of a wave that would end up becoming SCTV and SNL. Its blend of sharp satire and unique characters quickly made it a cornerstone of comedy. From Martin Short's Jerry Lewis to John Candy and Eugene Levy's polka playing Shmenge Brothers.
**凯瑟琳·欧哈拉**: “马上回来。”
Original English Right back after this. CATHERINE O'HARA:
**凯瑟琳·欧哈拉**: “他们会把我的眉毛弄掉，然后在上面画眉毛，我染了红色的头发，梳着蜂巢发型，我看起来像个放荡的夜总会演员。”
Original English They would wipe out my eyebrows and we'd paint eyebrows up here and I had this red hair up in a beehive hairdo, and I was like a raunchy nightclub act.
**艾尔维·约斯特**: “对。每次我讲一个脏笑话，我都会说，‘这不可爱吗？这是真的吗？’讲完最污秽的笑话后。只是，‘这不可爱吗？’”
Original English ELWY: Right. Every time I'd do a dirty joke I'd say, "Isn't that cute? Isn't it true?" after the filthiest jokes. Just, "Isn't that cute?"
**凯瑟琳·欧哈拉**: “你知道，我就是喜欢一年中的这个时候，因为每个人都乐于奉献，而我就是那个接受奉献的人。这不可爱吗？这是真的吗？我会用我爸爸从办公室带回家的笑话。”
Original English You know, I just love this time of year, because everyone's in the mood for giving, and I'm just a girl to give it to. Isn't that cute? Isn't that true? I'd use my dad's jokes that he brought home from the office.
**旁白**: “在**SCTV**，你始终处于巅峰状态。永远不能让你的转速下降，否则就会失败。”
Original English At SCTV, you were operating at peak performance at all times. Could never let your RPMs go down or you'd fail.
**凯瑟琳**: “当我和**SCTV**一起工作时，我必须完成它，否则我就不会出现在节目里。我们开始时几乎就像，在后台头脑风暴，但我们会围着一张桌子，一张会议桌，然后我们大家会决定哪些想法基本上是好的，然后我们就去写，然后再带着剧本回来，然后我们互相帮助修改它们。”
Original English CATHERINE: When I was with SCTV, I had to get it done or I wouldn't be in the show. We sort of would start out almost, like, backstage brainstorming, but we'd brainstorm around a table, a conference table, and then we'd sort of all decide on what ideas were basically good and then we'd go off and write them and then come back with scripts and then we'd help each other rewrite them.
**旁白**: “对于网络来说，这些剧本总是很难解读，因为他们搞不懂为什么会好笑，因为里面根本没有笑话，而最终好笑的是细微差别和角色。”
Original English Those scripts were always tough scripts to read for a network, because they couldn't figure out why it would be funny, because there were no jokes in them, and what was ultimately funny was the nuance and the character.
**旁白**: “**SCTV**最初是在**Fire Hall剧院**开始的。**Second City**舞台最初在**Adelaide街**开业，然后关门了，因为他们拿不到酒牌，然后搬到了**Fire Hall剧院**，**安德鲁·亚历山大**是促成这次飞跃并实现这一切的关键人物，当**洛恩·迈克尔斯**为他的**SNL**节目偷走了**Second City**一半的演员时，**伯尼·宋斯**非常——他经营着**芝加哥**的**Second City**，他非常嫉妒和生气，他说，‘好吧，我们自己做一个节目。’因此，**SCTV**起源于**Second City**的舞台经验，有点像是与**SNL**并行且作为回应。”
Original English How SCTV started was at that Fire Hall Theatre. Second City stage first opened on Adelaide Street, then closed 'cause they couldn't get a liquor license, and went to the Fire Hall Theatre, and Andrew Alexander was the one who was instrumental in making that jump and making that happen, and when Lorne Michaels pirated half of the Second City cast for his SNL show, Bernie Songs got very-- and he ran Second City out of Chicago, he got very jealous and angry, and said, "Well, we'll do our own show." And so, SCTV started out of that Second City stage experience as sort of running parallel and in response to SNL.
**旁白**: “**多伦多**是以角色驱动的，而**芝加哥**是以政治驱动的。它每周都在拍一部电影，你知道吗？一部90分钟的节目就像每周拍一部电影，并努力在我们不重复自己和角色的前提下，尽我们所能地搞笑，你知道。”
Original English Toronto was character-driven and Chicago was politically driven. It's doing a movie a week, you know? Yeah. A 90-minute show is like doing a movie a week and trying to be as funny as we can, you know, without repeating ourselves and repeating characters.
**旁白**: “比如**约翰·坎迪**在**《Peter Pan》**中扮演的**Divine**。”
Original English Such as John Candy's Divine in Peter Pan. ♪
**凯瑟琳**: “**多伦多电影节**。他们正在为**马丁·斯科塞斯**举办一个致敬活动，**罗伯特·德尼罗**和**哈维·凯特尔**都在现场，他在剧院后面的大堂等着被介绍，他们正要介绍他，他就说，‘嘿，我认识你！’他说**SCTV**的录像带帮助他度过了**《King of Comedy》**的剪辑期。”
Original English CATHERINE: Toronto Film Festival. They were doing a tribute to Martin Scorsese, and Robert De Niro was there on stage and Harvey Keitel was there, and he's in the lobby at the back of the theatre waiting to be introduced, and they're about to introduce him, and he goes, "Hey, I know you!" He said tapes of SCTV got him through the editing of King of Comedy.
**旁白**: “而且我认为，因为它是在**埃德蒙顿**或**多伦多**制作的，所以电视台真的没有干涉。”
Original English And I think because it was being done in Edmonton or Toronto, the network really left it alone.
**大卫**: “而且我们没有电视台高管来告诉我们做他们认为好笑的事情。我们可以做我们认为好笑的事情。”
Original English DAVID: And we didn't have network executives coming in telling us to do what they thought was funny. We got to do what we thought was funny.
**马丁**: “**Ed Grimley**是一个在**多伦多Second City**舞台**Fire Hall**创造的角色。我去了北方，发现越往北走，似乎就越冷。它是基于我高中时认识的几个人。有一个人，他想成为一名摄影师。他就那样说话。他总是拍不同人的幻灯片，有时甚至不冲洗它们，因为他已经拍过了。所以，他已经知道它们看起来怎么样了。我认识另一个人说话有点像那样。‘一种（听不清）的声音，而且经常会有酒吧，所以你得去找那个声音，我必须说。’‘我简直不敢相信这是个白色圣诞节。我的意思是，这不可能更完美了，我必须说。谢谢你，宾。’”
Original English MARTIN: Ed Grimley was a character created in Toronto on Second City stage at the Fire Hall. I travelled up north and I found that the farther north you get, it seems to get colder. It was based on a few people I knew from high school. There was one guy, he wanted to be a photographer. He talked like that. He would always take different slides of people and sometimes he wouldn't even develop them because he had taken them. So, he already knew what they looked like anyway. I knew another guy kinda talked like that. "A kind of (Unclear) voice, and there'd be bars a lot of time," so you kind of go find the voice, I must say. I can't believe it's a white Christmas. I mean, it couldn't be much more perfect, I must say. Thank you, Bing.
**旁白**: “所以，这个角色充满了生活的热情，你知道，热爱生活，甚至像一个心脏病发作后重获新生的人一样热爱生活。”
Original English So, this idea that this character was just filled with zest of life, you know, and love living and loved kind of almost like a guy who's had a heart attack and has gotten a second chance.
**旁白**: “一次办公室郊游启发了一个如今耳熟能详的面孔。发生的事情是，我妈妈和她的公司一起去看**Second City**，她说，‘有个人跟你一样，只是他特别搞笑’，因为我妈妈——我妈妈一直这么说话。‘他跟你一样，只是他很搞笑。’我就会说，‘是的，太棒了。’”
Original English An office outing inspired one now familiar face. What happened is my mom went with her company to see Second City and said, "There's this guy who you're just like, only he's really funny," because my mom-- that's how my mum always talks. "He's just like him, only he's funny." And I'd be like, "Yeah, that's great."
**旁白**: “总之，我当时在讲一个老演员的故事，你知道吗，女士们先生们，那个人是谁？**马丁·肖特**。所以，就是**马丁·肖特**。然后，我去看**马丁·肖特**。我还看了**约翰·坎迪**，已故的**约翰·坎迪**，在**多伦多Convocation Hall**的一个**Big City Comedy**的活动上，我完全被迷住了，我在艺术家入口等他们出来，**约翰·坎迪**是最善良的人，还有**蒂姆·卡祖林斯基**，他们说，‘跟我来，走，我告诉你怎么参与，’他们俩带我从——场地走到他们举办活动后派对的地方。他们让我去参加**Second City**的工作坊，告诉我，‘如果你真的想做，你可以做到’，你知道，‘这会很棒’，他们不可能更积极了。然后我去了，参加了工作坊，在我高中毕业的最后一天，我被**Second City** in **Toronto**聘用了。”
Original English Anyway, I was telling one of those old actor stories and do you know, ladies and gentleman, who that man turned out to be? Martin Short. So, it was Martin Short. And so, I went down and I saw Martin Short. I also went and saw John Candy, the late John Candy, at a thing for Big City Comedy at Convocation Hall in Toronto, and I was so completely taken with that, that I waited at the artists entrance for them to come out, and John Candy was the nicest man, and Tim Kazurinsky, and they said, "Come with me, walk, and I'll tell you how to get involved," and the pair of them took me and talked to me from the-- the venue to where they're having an after venue party. They told me to take the Second City workshops, told me, you know, "If you really want to do it you can do it," and, you know, it'll be great, and they couldn't have been more positive. And then I went took the workshops, and my last day of high school, I get hired at Second City in Toronto.
**戴夫·托马斯**: “**戴夫·托马斯**说，我喜欢的每一个和我一起出去玩的喜剧演员，就比如我有多喜欢和**戴夫·托马斯**一起玩，你只需要把**飞盘**放在他们鼻子底下然后扔出去，他们就会喜欢——（吠叫）——你知道吗？”
Original English Dave Thomas said that every comedian who he's enjoyed hanging out with as much as I've enjoyed hanging out with Dave Thomas is-- all you have to do is put the Frisbee under their nose and throw, and they'll like-- (Barking) You know?
**戴夫·托马斯**: “**戴夫·托马斯**说，**约翰·坎迪**的伟大之处在于，即使在他取得了所有成功之后，他仍然喜欢用滑稽的声音在你的电话录音机上留言。”
Original English Dave Thomas said of John Candy, that one of the great things about John Candy is that even after all the success, he still liked to leave messages on your phone machine in a funny voice.
**艾尔维·约斯特**: “是啊，嗯哼。你知道吗？”
Original English ELWY: Yeah, uh-huh. You know?
**艾尔维·约斯特**: “是啊。”
Original English ELWY: Yeah.
**旁白**: “仅仅是为了好玩。我想想法会产生偏见，对吧？它们——你无法保持客观的心态。总是——总有麻烦。想法带来麻烦？你有一个想法，你必须担心它。我什么都不想。我什么都不做。”
Original English Just because for the sheer joy of it. I guess thoughts create bias, don't they? And they-- You can't keep an objective mind. Always-- Always trouble. Trouble with thoughts? You have a thought, you have to worry about it. I think of nothing. I don't do anything.
**旁白**: “我开始的时候是在高中，那是——那是关于戏剧艺术还是打字的问题，我想戏剧艺术可能会更容易，然后在大学里我发现我正在学习我的——我选修了一门**新闻学**课程。我没那么喜欢它，不像喜欢戏剧系。然后我想我会成为一名伟大的演员，我的第一次经历是为一个**Colgate牙膏**做**Art Linkletter**的广告。所以，那下就这么结束了。我发现，嘿，这并不容易。然后**Second City**出现了，我真的不认为我有什么喜剧天赋。然后我去了**Second City**，我证明了自己是对的。我没有喜剧天赋。”
Original English I started when I was in high school and it was-- it was a question of theatre arts or typing, and I thought the theatre arts would be an easier mark, and then through college I found I was studying with my-- I was taking a journalism course. I didn't like that as much as I liked the drama department, and then I thought I'd be a great actor, and my first experience was doing an Art Linkletter commercial for Colgate toothpaste. So, that shot that one right down. And I found that this is, hey, this isn't that easy. Then Second City came up and I really didn't think I had a great flair for comedy. Then I went into Second City and I proved myself right. I don't have a flair for comedy.
**艾尔维·约斯特**: （大笑）“听他说。别让他们知道。”
Original English ELWY: (Laughing) Listen to him. Don't let them know.
**大卫**: “如果你和**约翰·坎迪**一起走上舞台，你一半的工作就完成了。他们已经喜欢你了，因为他们喜欢他。他有一张大大的、可爱的、温暖的、开放的脸。**约翰·坎迪**以他**‘Everyman’**般的魅力，将温暖、智慧和亲和力带入了喜剧。”
Original English DAVID: If you walked out on stage with John Candy, half of your work was done. They already liked you, because they liked him. He had a big, lovable, warm, open face. John Candy brought warmth, wit, and everyman charm to his comedy.
**旁白**: “我们并没有真正拥有很多大型3D设备。我们在这里剪一点，那里做一点特效，你知道吗？♪ 都是我的。**SCTV**其他成员也共享这些特质。但也许**SCTV**中最不可能的明星却有一个非常不寻常的开端。他们是通过**加拿大内容**法规法规化诞生的。”
Original English We don't really have a lot of the big 3D machinery as it were. We kind of cut a little corner here and there, do an effect here and there with a, you know? ♪ All mine. Traits shared by other SCTV alumni. But perhaps the most unlikely stars to come out of SCTV had a very unusual start. They were legislated into being by Canadian content.
**旁白**: “其他国家可能有**马克斯**、**海姆斯沃斯**、**加拉赫**和**马里奥**。MARIO:‘出发！’”
Original English Other countries may have the Marks, the Hemsworths, the Gallaghers, and the Marios. MARIO: Let's a-go!
**旁白**: “但加拿大最著名的兄弟可以说是**麦肯齐**兄弟，**鲍勃**和**道格**。”
Original English But Canada's most famous brothers are arguably the McKenzies, Bob and Doug.
**两人**: “哇。就是他们。好吧。（唱歌）”
Original English BOTH: Whoa. There they are. Okay. (Singing)
**大卫**: “当我们在美国**联合广播**时，**加拿大**的节目内容更少，而且长两分钟。所以，我们需要两分钟的**加拿大**节目，而且因为当时我们在**CBC**播出，他们说这必须是**加拿大**特有的。我们讽刺地说，‘是啊，你想做什么？展示一张**加拿大**地图，然后，比如，围着**绒帽**和**派克大衣**坐着喝酒？’他们说，‘是啊，那样就行，前提是你还得带个**骑警**，或者至少有个**骑警**杯。’”
Original English DAVID: By the time we were syndicated in the States and the Canadian show had less commercial content and was two minutes longer. So, we needed two minutes of Canadian programming, and because we're running on the CBC at the time, they said this must be distinctively Canadian. Sarcastically we said, "Yeah, what do you want to do? Put up a map of Canada and, like, sit around with toques and parkas and drink beer?" And they said, "Yeah, that'd be okay, provided you also have, like, a Mountie with you or at least a Mountie mug.
**旁白**: “为了保护**加拿大**文化免受**美国**节目的冲击，**加拿大内容**规则要求电视台包含60%的本土制作节目。**里克·莫兰尼斯**和**戴夫·托马斯**的**鲍勃和道格·麦肯齐**完美符合了这一要求。”
Original English In an effort to protect Canadian culture from being overwhelmed by American programming, the Canadian content rules required networks to include 60% home-produced shows. Rick Moranis and Dave Thomas' Bob and Doug McKenzie fit the bill perfectly.
**旁白**: “这是**加拿大**啤酒，对吧？就像，这是个普通的盖子，你打开它，对吧？”
Original English This is Canadian beer, right? And, like, here's a regular top and you open it, right?
**旁白**: “娱乐就是娱乐，你知道——”
Original English Entertainment is entertainment, and, you know--
**艾尔维·约斯特**: “说得对。”
Original English ELWY: That's right.
**旁白**: “——而且不断地挥舞一面旗帜，我的意思是，我认为有方法可以在不，你知道，立法的情况下提供帮助。”
Original English --and to constantly be waving a flag over it, I mean, I think there are ways of helping people without, you know, legislating things like that.
**艾尔维·约斯特**: “同意。”
Original English ELWY: Agreed.
**旁白**: “这真的惹恼了我们，所以，我们做了这个，你猜怎么着，它适得其反，成为了节目中最受欢迎的节目之一。”
Original English And this really made us angry, and so, we did this, and, wouldn't you know it, it backfired and became one of the biggest hits on the show, so.
**凯瑟琳**: “哦，美国人很喜欢那。我知道，他们看着**麦肯齐兄弟**说，‘这就是加拿大人！’”
Original English CATHERINE Oh, the Americans loved that. I know, they look at the McKenzie Brothers and say, "That's what Canadians are like, exactly."
**旁白**: “**鲍勃和道格·麦肯齐**的成功源于反映独特的**加拿大**身份，巧妙地**讽刺**刻板印象，同时深情地拥抱它们，最终成为了他们所戏谑的文化的重要组成部分。”
Original English (All ululating) Bob and Doug McKenzie's success came from reflecting a uniquely Canadian identity, cleverly satirizing stereotypes while affectionately embracing them, ultimately becoming a beloved part of the very culture they playfully mocked.
**旁白**: “像**《The Red Green Show》**、**《Corner Gas》**、**《Trailer Park Boys》**、**《FUBAR》**、**《Baroness Von Sketch Show》**、**《Letterkenny》**和**《Schitt's Creek》**这样的节目，以**加拿大**的魅力和一丝礼貌的**讽刺**重新定义了成功。”
Original English Programs like The Red Green Show, Corner Gas, Trailer Park Boys, FUBAR, Baroness Von Sketch Show, Letterkenny, and Schitt's Creek redefined success with Canadian charm and a polite serving of satire.
**旁白**: “我想关于人性的一切都是**讽刺**，因为我们很可笑，我们却又如此认真地对待自己。”
Original English I guess anything about humanity is satire, because we are ridiculous and we take ourselves seriously.
**旁白**: “30年后，有些似乎预言成真。他们只是加拿大人。他们差不多是第51个州。”
Original English 30 years on, some can seem prophetic. They're just Canadians. They're practically the 51st state.
**旁白**: “从**鲍勃和道格**的酒酣耳热的玩笑，到**《Kids in the Hall》**叛逆的机智，再到**《This Hour Has 22 Minutes》**和**里克·默瑟**的锋利言辞……你就是**加拿大**的**乔恩·斯图尔特**。”
Original English From the beer-soaked banter of Bob and Doug, the rebellious wit of the Kids in the Hall, to the razor-sharp edge of This Hour Has 22 Minutes and Rick Mercer... You're the Jon Stewart of Canada.
**旁白**: “**加拿大**和**美国**之间的一个区别是，**乔恩·斯图尔特**还在有线电视上，你知道吗？他在**《Esquire》**封面上，他在**《Rolling Stone》**封面上，他是**美国**一个巨大的文化影响力。你会认为，因为这样，一个**美国**电视台会说，‘好吧，让我们把他放到**美国**全国电视台上。’没有人尝试过。而在——而在**加拿大**，我的节目是在一个主流网络上播出，我们的收视率实际上比他在**美国**的收视率要高得多，我是说，按人均计算。所以我认为**加拿大人**比**美国人**更愿意接受**政治讽刺**。”
Original English One difference between Canada and the United States is that Jon Stewart is still on cable, you know? As he's on the cover of Esquire, he's on the cover of Rolling Stone, he's a huge cultural influence in the United States. You would think because of that an American network would say, "Well, let's put him on network TV." No one has even tried it. Whereas in-- Whereas in Canada, what I do is on a mainstream network and we get much bigger numbers actually than he gets in the United States, I mean, per capita. So, I think Canadians are more open to political satire than the Americans actually are.
**旁白**: “**加拿大人**对**政治讽刺**的舒适度可能很高，而且没有任何目标是禁忌。”
Original English Canadians' comfort level with political satire may be high and no target is off limits.
**旁白**: “1966年，在**冷战**恐慌达到顶峰时，**加拿大**导演**诺曼·朱威森**创作了一部电影，它巧妙地将恐惧与幽默融合在这一不太可能的主题中。作为一个局外人，他的**加拿大**视角带来了新鲜的见解，将政治紧张转化为尖锐、温暖、人性的**讽刺**。”
Original English In 1966, at the height of Cold War paranoia, Canadian director Norman Jewison created a film that brilliantly combined the fear and the funny in this unlikely subject. As an outsider, his Canadian perspective brought fresh insight, turning political tension into a sharp, warm, human satire.
**男人**: “你计划在不久的将来访问我们伟大的国家吗？”
Original English MAN: Are you planning in the near future to visit our great country?
**男人**: “绝不。你不想去吗？绝不。”
Original English Indubitably not. You don't plan to visit? Not on your tintype.
**男人**: “你想看**美国**吗？”
Original English Are you interested in seeing America?
**男人**: “一分钟都不想。”
Original English Not for a minute.
**旁白**: “**杰瑞·莱特**，以前在**CBS**工作，他给了我一本书。那本书叫**《The Off-Islanders》**。”
Original English Jerry Lighter, who used to work at CBS, and he gave me a book. That book, it was called The Off-Islanders.
**艾尔维·约斯特**: “哦，是啊。”
Original English ELWY: Oh, yeah.
**旁白**: “是关于一艘**苏联潜艇**意外搁浅在**科德角**。嗯，我当时觉得，你知道，我们正处于**冷战**的最高峰，**美国**的每个人都对**共产主义者**感到恐惧，他们无处不在，藏在每个角落和每个胶卷盒后面。”
Original English It is about a Soviet submarine accidentally running aground off Cape Cod. Well, I just thought this was, you know, we're at the height of the Cold War and everybody in America was terrified of Communists and they were under every rock and behind every film can.
**旁白**: “**冷战**持续了近50年，始于**第二次世界大战**之后。随着**美国**和**苏联**之间紧张局势的加剧，两国都发展了原子武库。我曾担心会发生原子战争。”
Original English Lasting nearly 50 years, the Cold War began in the aftermath of World War II. As tensions intensified between the USA and the USSR, both nations built up their atomic arsenals. I was afraid there was going to be an atomic war.
**旁白**: “恐惧催生了他的电影**《莫斯科来的客人，莫斯科来的客人》**，讲述了一个非故意的**苏联**入侵及其造成的混乱、困惑和喜剧。”
Original English Out of that fear came his film, The Russians are Coming the Russians are Coming, which tells the story of an unintentional Soviet invasion and the resulting chaos, confusion, and comedy.
**旁白**: “我不想让你出去。我不想让你靠近窗户，你明白吗？最好你们都待在地窖里，明白吗？”
Original English I don't want you going outside at all. I don't want you near the windows, you understand? Better yet, all of you stay in the cellar, you understand?
**旁白**: “我把它寄给了**比尔·罗斯**，他写了**《Mad, Mad, Mad World》**。他是一位才华横溢的作家，一位伟大的**讽刺**家。”
Original English I sent it to Bill Rose, and he had written Mad, Mad, Mad World. He was a brilliant writer and a great satirist.
**卡尔·莱纳**: “我认为**《Mad, Mad, Mad World》**启发了**诺曼**去拍**《莫斯科来的客人》**。它有同样的，你知道，一大群优秀的演员——他——那里面的每个演员都有喜剧背景。令我惊讶的是，因为当时他很贵，而且我认为**斯坦利·克莱默**付给了他当时支付给剧本作者的最高报酬，他写回来说，‘这是个绝妙的主意。也许我们应该见面谈谈。’我们在**巴黎**的一家餐厅约见了。我坐下来，他告诉我关于1939年**来**到**加拿大**并在**黑卫队**服役的事情——以及他如何成为一个某种意义上的**美国**流亡者，他曾在**二战**期间与**加拿大人**并肩作战，最终**在英国**写了所有这些精彩的喜剧和**讽刺**电影，为**Ealing Studios**工作。他说，‘**诺曼**，你必须记住的最重要的事情是，这是一个非常敏感的话题。因此，‘**共产主义**’和‘**资本主义**’这两个词绝不能出现在这部电影里。’”
Original English CARL REINER: I think The Mad, Mad World inspired Norman to do The Russians are Coming. It had the same kind of, you know, big collection of good actor-- He-- Every actor in there had a comedic background. To my amazement, because he was very expensive at that time, and I think Stanley Kramer paid him the highest price that'd ever been paid to a screenwriter for Mad, Mad World, he wrote back and said, "It's a hell of an idea. Maybe we should meet and talk about this," and we had a rendezvous in Paris, in a restaurant. I sat down with him and he told me about coming to Canada in 1939 and enlisting in the Black Watch and-- and how he had become this kind of expatriate American who had fought with the Canadians during WWII, and ended up in England and had written all these wonderful comedies and satirical films for Ealing Studios. He said, "The most important thing, Norman, you must remember is this is a very volatile subject. Therefore, the word Communism and the word Capitalism must never be used in this film."
**旁白**: “这是**文化冲突**。人们看完电影应该会说，‘嗯，你知道，他们其实没那么坏。我的意思是，他们就像我们。他们就是人，就像我们一样。’”
Original English This is a clash of cultures. People should leave the theatre saying, "Well, you know, they're not that bad. I mean, they're just like us. They're people just like we are."
**旁白**: “当时婚姻就成了，然后我回到**环球**，我说，‘哇，我为你们拍了一部电影，我告诉他们了，他们说，‘你疯了吗？’（艾尔维大笑）‘你想拍一部关于**苏联潜艇**的电影，和——’我说，‘嗯，我想我可以找来**苏联**演员。我和——和一家**苏联**电影出口公司联系了——’‘你在和**俄罗斯人**谈论演员？！你在说什么——’他们以为我是个**加拿大**的‘红色分子’。”
Original English The marriage was made at that time, then I went back to Universal, and I said, "Boy, have I got a film for you, and I told them about it, and they said, "Are you crazy?" (Elwy laughing) "You want to do a film about a Russian submarine with-- And I said, "Well, I can get Russian actors, I think. I've communicated with-- with a Soviet film export," and, "You're talking to the Russians about an actor?! What are you talking--" And they thought I was some sort of Canadian pinko.
**旁白**: “**《莫斯科来的客人，莫斯科来的客人》**是在**1950年代**的阴影下制作的，当时**好莱坞**被**红色恐慌**吞噬。在**参议员约瑟夫·麦卡锡**的领导下，许多人面临毫无根据的**共产主义**指控。”
Original English NARRATOR: The Russians are Coming, The Russians are Coming was produced in the shadow of the 1950s, when Hollywood was consumed by the Red Scare. Led by Senator Joseph McCarthy, many people faced baseless accusations of Communism.
**男人**: “参议员，我认为我从未真正衡量过你的残忍或鲁莽。”
Original English Senator, I think I never really gauged your cruelty or your recklessness.
**旁白**: “数百名创意人士被列入黑名单，失去工作，事业受损，并影响了多年的电影内容。你能想象今天拍一部叫《**阿拉伯人来了，阿拉伯人来了**》的电影吗？你能想象吗？你拍的就是那个！”
Original English Hundreds of creatives were blacklisted, losing jobs, ruining careers, and influencing movie content for years. Can you imagine making a film today called The Arabs are Coming, The Arabs are Coming? Can you imagine? That's what you were making!
**旁白**: “**诺曼**总是想表达一些东西，在它被创作的时代背景下，非常重要，并且通过喜剧的方式面对了那个时代的一个重要问题。而我们所有人，你知道，我们都在想，‘我们会因为这个惹上政府的麻烦吗？’”
Original English Norman always wanted to make a statement about something, which, considered in the time, in the context of the time it was made, was very important, and faced up through comedy terms to an important problem of that time. And all of us, you know, we're thinking, "Are we going to get in trouble for this with the government?"
**旁白**: “**诺曼**毫不犹豫地去做，因为他觉得这是对的。那就是开始说**冷战**是愚蠢的。他让**俄罗斯人**和**美国人**一起帮助一个孩子从尖顶上下来，这才是世界应该有的样子，互相帮助。他有社会良知，他的电影总是关于人，他有强烈的正义感，这在他的电影中得到了体现。他是个好人。”
Original English Norman had no feeling, no compunction about just going out and doing it, because he felt it was right. That was the beginning of saying the Cold War is stupid. He had the Russians and the Americans together helping a kid off the steeple, and that's what the world should be, helping each other. He's got a social conscience and it's always about people, most of his pictures are about people and he's got a great sense of justice and it comes across in his pictures. He's a good guy.
**旁白**: “我被几乎所有工作室拒绝了，然后我去了**Mirisch Company**和**United Artists**的**沃尔特·米里什**——**哈罗德·米里什**那里。他们说，‘好吧，如果你能让**比尔·罗斯**写剧本，我们就资助剧本。’他们做到了。”
Original English I was turned down by almost every studio, and I went to see Walter Mir-- Harold Mirisch, of the Mirisch Company and United Artists. And so, they said, "Well, if you can get Bill Rose to write the screenplay we'll finance the screenplay," which they did. ♪
**旁白**: “我们完成了剧本，但我弄不到一艘**苏联潜艇**。然后**美国海军**不给我潜艇，因为他们说，如果一艘**苏联潜艇**能在美国海岸搁浅，那会让他们看起来很愚蠢。所以我去了**加拿大海军**，他们会租给我一艘**德国潜艇**，那是他们二战后得到的，我觉得那还挺不错的。我说，‘嗯，你们会租给我潜艇和船员吗？’‘哦，是的，但你想要多久？’我们开始商谈。**美国海军**说潜艇不能——**加拿大潜艇**不能进入12英里以内。所以，最后，我们决定建造一艘潜艇，可怜的**鲍勃·博伊尔**，**罗伯特·博伊尔**是我的制片设计师，他想出了一个建造潜艇的点子。”
Original English We finished the screenplay and I couldn't get a Russian submarine. And then the United States Navy wouldn't give me a submarine because they said it would make them look foolish if a Soviet submarine could run aground on the coast of America. And so, I went to the Canadian Navy and they would rent me a German submarine that was given to them after World War II, and I thought that was kind of nice. I said, "Well, gee, you'll rent me the submarine and a crew? And, "Oh, yeah, but how long do you want it for?" And we started to work out the deal. The US Navy says the submarine cannot-- the Canadian submarine cannot come in within a 12-mile limit. And so, finally, we decided to build a submarine and poor Bob Boyle, Robert Boyle was my production designer, he came up with an idea of how to build a submarine.
**旁白**: “**诺曼**喜欢拍摄实景。他更喜欢实景的感觉。他觉得他能从中得到特别的东西。当然，它不能下潜，但它必须出海，而且非常危险。我们在**北加州**海岸拍摄，我们建造了这艘潜艇。”
Original English Norman likes to shoot locations. He prefers the location feeling. He feels that he gets something special out of it. 'Course it couldn't submerge, but it had to go to sea, and it was very dangerous. We're shooting off the coast of Northern California and we built this submarine.
**旁白**: “在首次担任主角的演出中，**艾伦·阿金**是来自**芝加哥**团队的另一位**Second City**校友。”
Original English Making his leading role debut, Alan Arkin was another Second City alumni from the Chicago team.
**旁白**: “我想尽可能真实，我找到了**艾伦·阿金**，他当时在**纽约**演一出戏，我觉得**艾伦**非常适合扮演**Rozanov**这个角色，他是一位出色的方言家。我让他和一个在**联合国**工作的年轻**俄罗斯**人一起住，他是一名翻译。所以，他日复一日地听。然后——然后我开始选拔所有这些年轻的**俄罗斯**演员，我甚至还有一位**意大利**和一位**法国**演员扮演船员。他们都能流利地说**俄语**。这部电影，除了关于当时的**俄美**关系，嗯，它非常有趣。那——我们有那么多当时的伟大喜剧演员。**诺曼**：**乔纳森·温特斯**、**卡尔·莱纳**、**伊娃·玛丽·圣**、**艾伦·阿金**等等。这是一个很棒的演员阵容。”
Original English I wanted to be as authentic as possible and I found Alan Arkin who was in a play in New York, and Alan I felt was just perfect to play the part of Rozanov and he was a wonderful dialectician. I had him live with a young Russian guy who worked at the United Nations as an interpreter. And so, he listened to him day after day. And then-- So, then I started to cast all these young Russian actors and I even had an Italian and a French actor playing part of the crew. Both who could speak fluent Russian. That film, aside from being about the Russian-American relationships of time, uh, was a lot of fun. It was-- We had so many of the great comics of the time. NORMAN: Jonathan Winters and Carl Reiner and Eva Marie Saint and Alan Arkin and so on. It was a great cast.
**旁白**: “你也不能在不了解**诺曼**的背景的情况下接近他的电影，他基本上是个农民。农场是为了某些事，是为了培育事物，是为了种植事物，我认为这对**诺曼**产生了很大影响。”
Original English You also can't approach Norman's films without realizing his own background, which is he is essentially a farmer. Farms are about something, they're about raising things, they're about growing things, and I think it has had a great influence on him.
**旁白**: “**诺曼**的一个重要才能是让人们感到自在，去搞笑，但他总是让摄影机多转一会儿，因为他知道，在场景结束时，喜剧演员可能会给出一个被称为‘场景按钮’的东西，**艾伦·阿金**在几个场景中确实做到了。他只是让它一直在拍摄。有一个场景我对他开了枪。‘别再做了。我保证不做了。’然后他说，‘别再那样做了。’他自己随口一说，在很小的时刻，但非常完美，我认为好的导演知道演员脑子里在想什么，而他知道。”
Original English One of these Norman had a great facility for is making people feel comfortable to be funny, but he always let the camera roll a little more, knowing that comedians, at the end of the scene, may give you what they call a button to the scene, and Alan Arkin in a couple scenes actually did that. He just kept it rolling. There's one scene where I shot at him. Don't do it no more. I promise I won't. And he says, "Don't do that anymore." He just threw that in himself at a tiny little moment, but it was really perfect, and I think good directors know when there's something cooking in an actor's head and he does.
**旁白**: “**诺曼**拍电影很有趣。不仅仅是拍电影吸引**诺曼**。他玩得很开心。他们想阻止我们传播他们在这里的消息。所以，他们把电话接线员，**两吨重的苔丝·奥谢**和我绑在了一起。（喘气）好，好，好！在这边。不，往那边走！不！”
Original English Norman has a lot of fun making a picture. It isn't just making the picture that interests Norman. He has a lot of fun. They wanted to keep us from spreading the word that they're in town. So, they tied the telephone operator, two-tonne Tessie O'Shea and myself, together. (Grunting) Good, good, good! Over here. No, go that way! No!
**卡尔**: “那个场景拍了四天，因为有很多场景我们——一个我们被绑在椅子上，然后我们被绑着躺在地上，然后我们试图站起来走下一段楼梯。有很多工作要做。苔丝和我面对面绑了大约四天，她说，‘亲爱的，我们对彼此越来越了解了，不是吗？’（艾尔维大笑）是的，而且它成了电影中最有趣的场景之一。别那样倾斜。就是——就再来一个——别——！（两人含糊不清地喊叫）”
Original English CARL: It took four days to shoot that scene, because there was a lot of scenes where we-- One we're tied in a chair, then we're tied and we're lying on the ground, then we try to stand up and go down a flight of steps. There was a lot of work to do. Tessie and I were tied face to face for about four days and she said, "Well, love, we're getting to know each other quite well, aren't we?" (Elwy laughing) Yes, and it came out as one of the funniest scenes in the picture. Don't lean that way. Just-- Just one more-- Don't--! (Both shouting indistinctly)
**旁白**: “这部电影在**奥斯卡奖**上获得了最佳影片提名，并在**金球奖**上获奖，但也吸引了一些意想不到的粉丝。”
Original English The film was nominated at the Oscars for best picture and won at the Golden Globes, but it also drew some unexpected fans.
**诺曼**: “它在**克里姆林宫**放映了六次。你知道，如果他们不喜欢某样东西，**俄国**观众就会——（发出‘ch’声）他们会发出声音。所以，当**俄国**船长威胁小镇要回他的男人等等，进行挑战时，你知道，他们都开始——（发出‘ch’声）——发出这种声音，因为他们认为这是另一部会让**俄罗斯人**成为坏人的电影。当然，当他们救了孩子，然后**俄罗斯人**似乎变得英勇起来，**Roza**——你知道，**罗扎诺夫**，**艾伦·阿金**成了整个电影里唯一理智的人，他不慌张，因为，你知道，每个人都在慌张，突然间他们开始鼓掌，我意识到这对他们产生了巨大的影响，他们都站起来鼓掌，我转过身，**弗拉基米尔·波兹纳**在哭，人们在哭。我说，‘他们为什么在哭？’他说，‘他们在哭，因为他们意识到我们应该先拍这部电影。’所以，在我看来，那就是**‘glasnost’**的开始。这是一部关于**国际冲突**荒谬性的电影。它在那个两国敌对、第三次世界大战威胁着我们所有人的时候，向世界发出了一个非常强烈的政治声明，而且它是我制作的唯一一部被载入**美国国会图书馆**的**国会记录**的电影。”
Original English NORMAN: It was screened six times in the Kremlin. You know, if they don't like something, the Russian audiences go-- (Making "ch" sound) They make a sound. So, when the Russian captain was threatening the town to get his men back and so on and challenging, you know, they all started-- (Making "ch" sound) --making this sound, because they thought this was another film that was going to make the Russians the heavies. Of course, when they save the child and then the Russians kind of become heroic and Roza-- You know, Rozanov, Alan Arkin becomes the only intelligent person in the entire film, who doesn't a panic, because, you know, everybody's panicked, and all of a sudden they started to clap, and I realized that it was having a tremendous effect upon them, and they all stood up and gave it a standing ovation, and I turned, and here was Vladimir Pozner crying and people were crying. I said, "Why are they crying?" He says, "They're crying because they realize that we should have made this film first." So, that was the beginning of Glasnost, in my opinion. It was a film that was about the absurdity of international conflict. It was a film that was making a very strong statement, politically, to the world at a time when those two countries were at loggerheads, and where a third world war was being-- was threatening all of us, and it's the only film I've made that is in the Library of Congress in the Congressional Record.
**旁白**: “从**诺曼·朱威森**的**讽刺**片到**SCTV**角色的温暖与智慧，**加拿大**幽默闪耀着智慧、同情心和自我认知。你必须从内心深处去创作电影，不要担心没人理解你，也不要因为是**加拿大人**而感到不自在。它根植于**讽刺**、**距离感**和**即兴表演**。而且，我们太需要它了。**SCTV**！这种特质源于以善良和**反讽**的眼光看待世界。它提醒我们，笑声，尤其是那种让我们更清晰地认识自己的笑声，可能正是**加拿大**最伟大的自然资源。”
Original English From Norman Jewison's satires to SCTV's characters' warmth and wit Canadian humour shines with intelligence, empathy, and self-awareness. You have to make films from deep down within you and not worry about no one understanding you or not be self-conscious about being Canadian. It's rooted in satire, distance, and improv. And, man, can we use that. SCTV! Traits born from seeing the world with both kindness and irony. It reminds us that laughter, especially the kind that makes us see ourselves a little clearer, might just be Canada's greatest natural resource.
**旁白**: “所以，当谈到贬低别人或嘲笑某事，甚至嘲笑自己时，**加拿大人**就是有办法做到，而且——很有趣！”
Original English So, when it comes to putting people down or when it comes to making fun of something, even ourselves, Canadians just have a way of doing it, and it's-- it's funny!