--- author: New York Times Podcasts date: '2026-10-06' guest: '' layout: post.njk source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR3hEi9hH1U speaker: New York Times Podcasts tags: - product-design - consumer-hardware - product-durability - hardware-testing title: Wirecutter名人堂首期大揭秘：历经十年实测，这五款硬核产品凭什么封神？ summary: 本期Wirecutter播客特别节目深入揭秘首届「名人堂」榜单评选内幕。四位资深评测编辑重磅登场，倾情详解经历6至10年以上残酷长期实测仍然不可替代的标杆产品：从剪羊羔脐带的莱泽曼多功能工具、通渠神级马桶柱塞，到风靡90年的绝妙冰淇淋勺、十全十美的儿童控音耳机以及征战加州山火的空气净化器，全方位展现极致消费品评测的严谨与趣味。 insight: '' draft: true series: '' category: tech-trends area: tech-engineering project: [] people: [] companies_orgs: - The New York Times products_models: - Leatherman Skeletool CX - Korky Beehive Max Clean - Zeroll Ice Cream Scoop - Baratza Encore - Puro Sound Labs BT2200 Plus - Coway AP-1512HH Mighty media_books: [] status: evergreen --- ### 经典开篇：什么是Wirecutter名人堂？ **莱斯利·斯托克顿**: 为什么大家应该在乎一把**冰淇淋勺**？嗯，你吃冰淇淋吗？这是其一。你知道，我认为自2016年以来它就一直是我们的推荐之选，所以大概有10年了。
Original English **Lesley Stockton**: Why should people care about this ice cream scoop? Well, do you eat ice cream? That's one. You know, I think they've been a pick since 2016, so around 10 years.
**道格·马奥尼**: 我觉得对于这款工具，我找不出任何需要改变的地方。
Original English **Doug Mahoney**: I don't think I would change anything about this tool.
**蒂姆·赫弗南**: 我的意思是，我做梦都能倒背出它的型号。
Original English **Tim Heffernan**: I mean, I can still give you the model number in my sleep.
**克里斯汀·西雷特**: 我是**克里斯汀·西雷特**（Christine Cyrille），你正在收听的是 Wirecutter Show。
Original English **Christine Cyrille**: I'm Christine Cyrille and you're listening to the Wire Cutter Show.
**克里斯汀·西雷特**: 我在 **Wirecutter** 工作了十多年，在那段岁月里，我测试过从慢炖锅到亚麻床单的各种物品。我个人拥有或者亲自使用过成百上千款 Wirecutter 推荐的产品。当我们的记者开始撰写一篇评测时，他们首先会列出一长串感兴趣且想要测试的型号和品牌。他们会翻遍全网的评论，采访业内专家。然后，他们会亲手拿到这些产品并展开严格测试：这张床垫的边缘支撑力足够吗？这些**降噪耳机**是否真的能有效降低环境噪音？这款搅拌机到底能不能把坚果打成细腻的坚果酱？他们在测试过程中始终在向自己提出这些极其具体的问题。
Original English **Christine Cyrille**: I've worked at Wire Cutter for over a decade and in that time I've tested everything from slow cookers to linen sheets. I own or I've used literally hundreds of Wire Cutters recommendations. When our journalists begin working on one of our reviews, they start with a long list of models and brands that they're interested in testing. They wade through the internet reviews. They interview experts. And then they get their hands on the products and test them. Does this mattress have the right edge support? Do these noise-cancelling headphones actually effectively reduce noise? Did this blender in fact blend this nut butter? They're always asking themselves these very specific questions as they're testing.
**克里斯汀·西雷特**: 一件产品必须真正出类拔萃，才能从候选列表中脱颖而出，成为我们所说的“推荐之选”（Pick）。多年来我们发现，有些产品在年复一年的持续测试中，始终能够震撼我们。它们比竞争对手更优秀，更耐用，使用体验也更愉悦。而且我们常常发现，它们在我们的个人生活中已经变得不可或缺。 针对这些至少蝉联推荐 6 年以上的产品，我们刚刚设立了一个全新奖项，称之为**名人堂**（Hall of Fame）。首届入选名人堂的产品全部由我们编辑部的专业记者投票选出。经过数周激烈甚至充满激情的辩论，我们最终仅选出了 50 款产品。在今天的节目中，我采访了四位资深作者，聊聊其中几款登榜利器：你用过的最好的冰淇淋勺、让同类相形见绌的马桶搋子、我们有史以来最爱的空气净化器，以及其他几件神奇好物。
Original English **Christine Cyrille**: It takes a truly wonderful item to make it to the top of the list to become what we call a pick. And we've found over the years that some items continue to impress us year after year of testing them. They're better than their competitors. They're more durable and more pleasant to use. And often we find that they've become indispensable in our personal lives. We just introduced a new award for these products that have been picked for at least 6 years, which we're calling the Hall of Fame. The products for our first ever Hall of Fame were chosen by the journalists in our newsroom. It took weeks of passionate debate to pick just 50. In today's episode, I'm interviewing four writers about some of these items. The best ice cream scoop you'll ever use, a toilet plunger that puts the rest to shame, our all-time favorite air purifier, plus several more.
--- ### 第一件利器：莱泽曼多功能工具与断脐带传奇 **克里斯汀·西雷特**: 欢迎回来。今天我要聊的第一位名人堂评测作者，是我们家居改善团队的资深特约撰稿人**道格·马奥尼**（Doug Mahoney）。道格，欢迎来到节目。
Original English **Christine Cyrille**: Welcome back. The first person I'm going to talk with today about a Hall of Fame pick is a longtime senior staff writer on our home improvement team, Doug Mahoney. Doug, welcome to the show.
**道格·马奥尼**: 感谢邀请。
Original English **Doug Mahoney**: Thanks for having me.
**克里斯汀·西雷特**: 我非常高兴你能来。我们之前请过你好几次，聊过工具，聊过灭鼠，还聊过各种各样的居家动手妙招。今天，我们想聊聊你为名人堂推荐的精选产品：**Leatherman Skeletool CX** 多功能工具。你能给听众简单介绍一下它到底是什么吗？
Original English **Christine Cyrille**: I love having you on the show. We've had you several times to talk about tools and to talk about killing rodents and all sorts of handy things. Today we want to talk about one of your picks for our Hall of Fame, the Leatherman Skeletool CX multi-tool. Can you just describe for the listeners what this is?
**道格·马奥尼**: 好的。它是一款**多功能工具**（multi-tool）。你可以把它想象成类似于**瑞士军刀**（Swiss Army knife）的东西。它是一个口袋大小的物件，把好几种常用工具巧妙地集成在一个便携机身里。
Original English **Doug Mahoney**: Yeah. So, it's a multi-tool. So, you want to just think of it, it's kind of like a Swiss Army knife. It's a little pocket-sized item and it has a little handful of tools folded inside of it.
**克里斯汀·西雷特**: 你为什么这么喜欢它？比起市场上人们可以买到的其他多功能工具，它究竟好在哪里？
Original English **Christine Cyrille**: Why do you like it so much? Why is it better than other multi-tools that people could buy?
**道格·马奥尼**: Skeletool CX 身上有太多让人着迷的地方。首先，它其实和传统的瑞士军刀不太一样，它本质上是一把**折叠钳**，而不是折叠小刀。很多多功能工具都会把尽可能多的功能塞进去——比如锯子、鱼鳞器、开罐器、剪刀等等，塞得满满当当。但 Skeletool CX 完全反其道而行之，它采用极致精简的设计，做到了极其轻便和流线型。
Original English **Doug Mahoney**: There's a lot to like about the Skeletool CX. So, first, it's uh it's actually not like a Swiss Army knife. It's a set of folding pliers, not a pocket knife. And a lot of multi-tools have every tool under the sun crammed inside of it, and this one does not do that. It is stripped down to be as lightweight and sleek as possible.
**道格·马奥尼**: 所以它只保留了核心部件：一组带有剪线钳口的钳子、一把主刀，以及一个带有可双向替换批头的螺丝刀。它的刀刃用的是非常优质的 **154CM 不锈钢**，而且带有口袋夹，你可以直接把它像折刀一样夹在口袋边缘。由于非常轻巧，带在身上几乎感觉不到它的存在。
Original English **Doug Mahoney**: So it only has it's got the pliers, and the pliers have the little wire cutter jaws. It's got the knife. It's got the screwdriver with a double-ended bit, reversible bit. It's got a really high-end 154CM blade on it. And it has a pocket clip, so you can carry it like a pocket knife. And because it's so lightweight, you can barely feel it.
**道格·马奥尼**: 我觉得对于几乎任何人的口袋来说，这都是一件极其好用的随身工具，尤其是那些平时本来没有随身携带工具习惯的人。因为如果是那些装满二十种功能、沉甸甸的大号多功能工具，你肯定不会天天揣在口袋里；即使买了，最后也只是扔在抽屉里吃灰。而这款工具，你真的愿意天天随身带着。
Original English **Doug Mahoney**: I think it would be really a useful tool in a pocket of just about anybody, especially if it's somebody who's not accustomed to carrying around a tool. Because the really big multi-tools that have 20 different tools in them, nobody wants to walk around with that in their pocket. You buy it and it sits in a drawer. This is something that you'll actually carry.
**克里斯汀·西雷特**: 我感觉我从小就经常听到 **Leatherman**（莱泽曼）这个品牌。感觉这个牌子已经存在很久了，对吧？他们是多功能工具领域的绝对霸主吗？
Original English **Christine Cyrille**: I have heard the brand name Leatherman since I feel like since I was a kid. I feel like this has been around a long time, right? Are they kind of the king of multi-tools?
**道格·马奥尼**: 确实如此。他们的总部位于俄勒冈州的**波特兰**（Portland, Oregon）。所有的设计和制造全都在那里完成。所有部件均在美国制造，并且附带长达 **25 年的质保**。品牌创始人名叫**蒂姆·莱泽曼**（Tim Leatherman）——
Original English **Doug Mahoney**: Yeah, they are. They're based in Portland, Oregon. Everything is designed and manufactured there. Everything is made in the US, 25-year warranty. It was started by a guy named Tim Leatherman—
**克里斯汀·西雷特**: 我猜很多人听到 Leatherman，还以为是什么充满男子气概的“皮衣硬汉”万能牛仔名字呢。
Original English **Christine Cyrille**: which I think a lot of people assume Leatherman is sort of this like macho Marlboro man kind of name. Yes.
**道格·马奥尼**: 哈哈，其实这单纯就是创始人的姓氏而已。他们从 80 年代初就创立了，可以说是现代多功能工具领域的绝对开山鼻祖和行业领袖。他们生产各种价位和型号的多功能工具，但 Skeletool CX 是我们自 2016 年以来就一直推荐的扛鼎之作。
Original English **Doug Mahoney**: But um it's it's it's just the guy's last name. And they've been around since the early 80s and are the big leader in multi-tools. They have all different kinds of models available at different price points, but this has been our pick since 2016.
**克里斯汀·西雷特**: 25 年的保修期确实太罕见了。好吧，我必须八卦一下：在测试这款 Leatherman 的过程中，你做过的最不可思议或者最离奇的事情是什么？
Original English **Christine Cyrille**: 25 years is a lot. Yeah. Okay. I got to know. What is the weirdest thing that you have done to test the Leatherman?
**道格·马奥尼**: 这个问题的答案对我来说简直脱口而出。我曾经用这把 Skeletool CX 切断过一只**小羊羔的脐带**。
Original English **Doug Mahoney**: Yeah, this is actually a really easy answer. I used a Leatherman. I used a Skeletool CX actually to cut the umbilical cord of a lamb.
**克里斯汀·西雷特**: 哇！天呐！
Original English **Christine Cyrille**: Whoa.
**道格·马奥尼**: 是的，正如你所知，我自己养羊。当时一只刚出生的小羊羔降生了，我通常在谷仓里备着兽医工具包，里面有专用的脐带剪。但那天那把剪刀正好不在手边，而母羊又没办法把脐带咬断。我当时碰巧口袋里装着这把 Skeletool CX，直接掏出来单手开刀，咔嚓一下就搞定了。母子平安。
Original English **Doug Mahoney**: Yeah. You know, as you know, I raise sheep. A lamb had just been born and I have my little vet kit I keep out in the barn, and it had a special scissors in there for umbilical cords. And that wasn't there and the mom wasn't able to sever it. And I just happened to have this in my pocket, whipped out the knife, cut it, and everybody was fine.
**克里斯汀·西雷特**: 看来这真是一把能应付任何意外情况的万能工具。对于想要了解更多测试细节的听众，我们在网上还有一篇专门的文章，记录了我们的作者用各种工具做过的那些离谱奇事。我们在评测产品时，总是尽量保持客观全面，不会一味吹捧“这东西完美无瑕”。那么关于这款 Skeletool CX，有什么是大家在购买前需要了解的注意事项或缺点吗？
Original English **Christine Cyrille**: Yeah, it's a tool for every job apparently. And for listeners who want to see some of the other weird things we've done with tools, we actually have a whole article about weird things our writers have done with products on our site. We always are trying when we review things to not just be like, "Oh, this thing is so amazing, it's completely perfect." Is there anything about the Skeletool CX that people should know that maybe isn't great or isn't as good as other products?
**道格·马奥尼**: 就这件工具本身的定位而言，我不觉得它有任何需要修改的地方。但值得买家注意的一点是：正因为它如此精简，它并没有配备传统大号多功能工具里的那些剪刀、木锯、开罐器等附加小工具。而且它的**螺丝批头**是专用的扁平规格，而不是市面上通用的标准 1/4 英寸六角批头。所以如果你不小心把批头弄丢了，必须找 Leatherman 官方购买专用配件，普通五金店买的标准批头是插不进去的。
Original English **Doug Mahoney**: I don't think I would change anything about this tool, but it's worth noting that it is a stripped-down tool. It doesn't have the scissors, it doesn't have the saw, it doesn't have the can opener. And the screwdriver uses proprietary bits; they are flat bits, not standard 1/4-inch hex bits. So if you lose a bit, you have to buy a replacement from Leatherman. You can't just go to a hardware store and buy standard hex bits.
--- ### 第二件利器：蜂巢马桶柱塞与疏通科学 **克里斯汀·西雷特**: 好的道格，在结束之前我一定要问问你：在我们的名人堂榜单上，还有没有其他产品是你个人特别推崇、极力推荐的？
Original English **Christine Cyrille**: Okay, Doug, before we go, I have to know, are there any other items on our Hall of Fame list that you think are awesome?
**道格·马奥尼**: 确实有一款。这可能是一个非常不同寻常的选择，但绝对是一件不可或缺的救命家什——那就是 **Korky Beehive Max Clean** 马桶柱塞（通厕器）。
Original English **Doug Mahoney**: There are definitely this is probably a really unusual one, but it's it's kind of an essential tool is the Korky Beehive Max Clean toilet plunger.
**克里斯汀·西雷特**: 哦！快跟我多讲讲！一个马桶搋子能有什么名堂？
Original English **Christine Cyrille**: Oo, tell me more.
**道格·马奥尼**: 它比市面上其他所有马桶搋子都要好用得多，性能简直不可思议。Korky 这款柱塞有几个关键点让它彻底脱颖而出。绝大多数人家里用的要么是普通的**水槽柱塞**（红色的平底橡胶皮搋子），要么是老式的廉价马桶柱塞。
Original English **Doug Mahoney**: It's way better than others. It's really wild. So, the Korky plunger, there's a couple things that separate it from other plungers. Most people have either a sink plunger or a cheap toilet plunger.
**道格·马奥尼**: 水槽柱塞就是动画片里《傻大猫》（Sylvester the cat）经常被扣在脸上的那种扁平吸盘。那种东西是专门用来通水槽平面下水口的，在马桶里根本无法密封。现代马桶底部的排污口形状千奇百怪，有的是狭窄的扁孔，有的是长方形或者斜角。而 Korky 这个柱塞设计成独特的**蜂巢形**（beehive shape），前段橡胶极具弹性，能够深入并紧密贴合任何形状的排污口，形成绝对的气密圈。此外，它的排量极大，手柄握持感极佳，疏通效率完全是降维打击。
Original English **Doug Mahoney**: A sink plunger is the classic kind that like Sylvester the cat gets stuck on his face, you know? And that's meant for a flat surface, so it won't seal in a toilet bowl. Modern toilets have weird drain hole shapes—some are narrow, some are oblong. The Korky plunger has this beehive shape that fits into almost any toilet bowl drain and creates an effective seal. It moves a lot of water with minimal effort, and the handle is really comfortable.
**克里斯汀·西雷特**: 听你这么一讲，通马桶简直都快变成一门高雅爱好了。
Original English **Christine Cyrille**: It almost sounds like a hobby.
**道格·马奥尼**: 哈哈，但这门学问真的很迷人！在深入调研评测之前，我对这些机械原理也一无所知。一旦你搞明白了水力学和密封圈的原理，你就会惊叹于优秀设计的威力。
Original English **Doug Mahoney**: It's fascinating. I had no idea before I started researching plungers. Once you understand the hydraulics and the sealing mechanics, you really appreciate good design.
**克里斯汀·西雷特**: 好了，现在全天下的听众也都知道这个诀窍了。
Original English **Christine Cyrille**: Well, now everybody else knows, too.
**道格·马奥尼**: 没错。
Original English **Doug Mahoney**: Yeah.
**克里斯汀·西雷特**: 道格，每次和你聊天都让人受益匪浅，非常感谢你今天的分享！
Original English **Christine Cyrille**: Doug, it is always a pleasure to have you on. Thank you for joining us.
**道格·马奥尼**: 谢谢邀请，非常高兴能来！
Original English **Doug Mahoney**: Yeah, thanks for having me.
--- ### 第三件利器：风靡近百年的泽罗尔冰淇淋勺 **克里斯汀·西雷特**: 我们接下来的名人堂嘉宾是厨房用具资深撰稿人**莱斯利·斯托克顿**（Lesley Stockton）。莱斯利，欢迎回到节目！
Original English **Christine Cyrille**: Our next Hall of Fame interview is with senior kitchen staff writer Lesley Stockton. Lesley, welcome back to the show.
**莱斯利·斯托克顿**: 谢谢邀请，很高兴回来。
Original English **Lesley Stockton**: Thanks for having me.
**克里斯汀·西雷特**: 我一直很喜欢和你聊天。你来过节目很多次，给我们讲过各种各样的厨房神器，从烤面包机、平底锅到厨师刀。不过今天我们要聊的这件装备，可能比我们绝大多数人的年纪都要大得多。它就是 **Zeroll 冰淇淋勺**（Zeroll Ice Cream Scoop）。
Original English **Christine Cyrille**: I always love having you here. We've had you many times. You have come and talked to us all about everything from toasters to pans and chef's knives. And I don't think the thing that we're going to talk about today may not have been a pick quite yet at that point, but it's the Zeroll Ice Cream Scoop.
**莱斯利·斯托克顿**: 很多人会问：“我为什么要花心思买一把冰淇淋勺？”首先，你平时吃冰淇淋吗？如果你从来不吃，那这东西确实不适合你。但只要你吃，哪怕你只是直接从纸盒桶里挖着吃——
Original English **Lesley Stockton**: Well, do you eat ice cream? That's one. You know, if you don't, this might not be for you. But why should you care about an ice cream scoop?
**克里斯汀·西雷特**: 从冰淇淋桶里挖。
Original English **Christine Cyrille**: tub,
**莱斯利·斯托克顿**: 对，抱着大桶直接挖，这没有任何毛病！但即使是这样，你也绝对需要一把真正出色的冰淇淋勺。因为一款好勺子能彻底拯救你的**手腕**，防止你挖硬冰淇淋时手腕韧带拉伤。而且它能让你挖冰淇淋的过程变得无比丝滑优雅。
Original English **Lesley Stockton**: from the tub, which also no shade, then yeah, care about an ice cream scoop because like it'll save your wrists if you're scooping hard ice cream. And it just makes the experience so much more pleasurable.
**克里斯汀·西雷特**: 我得向听众坦白：我自己家里其实常备着两把 Zeroll 冰淇淋勺。普通人买的冰淇淋勺通常是那种带弹簧拨片弹簧杠杆的金属勺。我发现那种勺子最常见的问题就是：当你使劲往冷冻得硬邦邦的冰淇淋里挖时，勺子根本扎不进去，不仅弹簧容易卡死变形，你的手腕关节还痛得要命。而 Zeroll 完全没有任何活动机械部件，它的边缘非常微妙。
Original English **Christine Cyrille**: Okay. So, tell me I'm going to just like for the listeners out there, I've got two of these in my house. The common problem I found with an ice cream scoop is the kind with a spring and lever. You like go to scoop and it just can't penetrate hard ice cream, or the mechanism gets stuck. But the Zeroll has no moving parts and has this beveled edge.
**莱斯利·斯托克顿**: 没错，虽然它的边缘不像菜刀那样锋利，但绝对像一把经过精细打磨的钝刀刃，带有绝妙的倒角。
Original English **Lesley Stockton**: Yeah. I mean it's not as sharp as a knife, but it's definitely like a dull knife.
**克里斯汀·西雷特**: 那个精巧的刃口斜切角，能让你像切黄油一样轻松顺滑地削进冰淇淋里。
Original English **Christine Cyrille**: Yeah. Exactly. And that little bevel there really helps you just slice right through.
**莱斯利·斯托克顿**: 想象一下那些在专业冰淇淋店工作的员工，每天要手挖成百上千个冰淇淋球，如果工具不好，他们的手腕肯定早就患上重复性劳损了。Zeroll 是全世界专业冰淇淋店的行业黄金标杆。
Original English **Lesley Stockton**: I would imagine for those folks who are, you know, literally scooping hundreds of scoops of ice cream a day, that kind of strain would really hurt your wrists. Zeroll is the industry gold standard in professional ice cream parlors.
**克里斯汀·西雷特**: 在测试这些勺子时，你们是如何测试不同种类的冰淇淋的？比如不同的膨胀率？
Original English **Christine Cyrille**: When testing these, how did you test across different types of ice creams? Like with different overrun?
**莱斯利·斯托克顿**: 虽然我们指南最初版本的初创测试是由第一任作者完成的，但在后来的持续更新中我都进行了严格测试。所谓**膨胀率**（Overrun），简单来说就是制作过程中打发融入冰淇淋中的**空气含量**。
Original English **Lesley Stockton**: I was not in on the very first round of testing—that was the original author of the guide—but I've tested them extensively since. Overrun is the amount of air whipped into the ice cream.
**克里斯汀·西雷特**: 空气含量越多，质地就越轻盈蓬松。
Original English **Christine Cyrille**: All right. There's like more air in it.
**莱斯利·斯托克顿**: 没错，空气多的冰淇淋和那种高密度、高乳脂的厚重冰淇淋，挖起来的阻力有着天壤之别。
Original English **Lesley Stockton**: And that scoops differently than a denser ice cream.
**莱斯利·斯托克顿**: 是的！理论上高膨胀率的廉价冰淇淋质地更软，但含水量高容易结出大冰晶；而像高级法式冰淇淋或意大利吉拉托（Gelato）非常致密，没有活动机械部件的 Zeroll 凭借自身导热和刀刃设计，能轻松搞定所有种类的冰淇淋。
Original English **Lesley Stockton**: Yes, and it scoops very differently than a denser ice cream in theory because a lot of overrun doesn't necessarily mean it's easier if ice crystals form, whereas dense ice cream puts huge resistance on the scoop.
**克里斯汀·西雷特**: 这两种冰淇淋的物理特性完全属于不同领域。
Original English **Christine Cyrille**: Which is a totally different thing.
**莱斯利·斯托克顿**: 哈哈，冰淇淋的工艺细节简直能单开一整期节目了！抱歉我扯得有点太技术细节了，我就是太痴迷挖掘这些背后的机械与物理逻辑。
Original English **Lesley Stockton**: That's a whole other episode. I'm so sorry. I love getting into the weeds.
**克里斯汀·西雷特**: 所以你在各种硬度和密度的冰淇淋上都验证了它的威力。那么关于这款勺子，用户有什么绝对必须知道的使用禁忌吗？比如……是不是绝对不能进洗碗机？
Original English **Christine Cyrille**: So you tested them on all types of ice creams. What do you need to know about this? Like I feel like there's something about not putting this in the dishwasher?
**莱斯利·斯托克顿**: **千真万确！绝对、千万不要把这把勺子放进洗碗机！**
Original English **Lesley Stockton**: You cannot put that thing in the dishwasher.
**克里斯汀·西雷特**: 快跟听众解释一下，为什么？如果放进去会发生什么惨剧？
Original English **Christine Cyrille**: Yeah. Tell me more. Why?
**莱斯利·斯托克顿**: 你看手柄末端那个小密封盖了吗？手柄内部其实是空心的，里面灌装了一种**导热液体**（导热矿物油/防冻传热流体）。当你握住手柄时，你手掌的体温会通过液体迅速传导到整个勺头，从而让勺刃在接触冰淇淋时瞬间融化极薄的一层微表面，使冰淇淋球自动脱落，根本不需要机械拨片！但洗碗机内部的高温烘干环境会破坏密封盖，导致液体渗漏或铝合金表面发生严重氧化变黑起皮，整把勺子就彻底报废了。所以用完只要在水龙头下用温水和海绵冲洗几秒钟就干净了。
Original English **Lesley Stockton**: So, see the little cap? There's a little cap at the end, and that's holding the fluid inside the scoop. When your hand holds the handle, the heat from your hand transfers through that fluid up to the bowl of the scoop, which helps release the ice cream without needing any moving lever! But a dishwasher's intense heat will ruin the seal, cause the fluid to leak, or discolor and pit the aluminum, ruining the scoop forever. You just rinse it with warm water by hand.
**克里斯汀·西雷特**: 是的，对于不熟悉这款勺子外观的听众来说，它是一体成型的铝合金铸件，线条极其优美，握持手感浑然天成。
Original English **Christine Cyrille**: Yeah. So, for listeners who aren't familiar with what this looks like, like you said, Lesley, it's one seamless piece of cast aluminum with beautiful lines.
**莱斯利·斯托克顿**: 这款设计的最初发明专利是在 **1935 年**申请的！将近一个世纪前！
Original English **Lesley Stockton**: I think the original patent was or the patent on it was filed in 1935.
**克里斯汀·西雷特**: 哇！近 90 年的历史！如果它还没被纽约现代艺术博物馆（MoMA）永久收藏的话，MoMA 真的该反省一下了。
Original English **Christine Cyrille**: Whoa. Yeah. If it's not in MoMA, it should be.
**莱斯利·斯托克顿**: 哈哈，确实应该！
Original English **Lesley Stockton**: Totally.
**克里斯汀·西雷特**: 那么对于这把勺子，有任何你觉得不满意的地方吗？
Original English **Christine Cyrille**: Yeah. I want to know, is there anything about this scoop that you don't like?
**莱斯利·斯托克顿**: 呃，说实话，真的没有。完全找不出毛病。
Original English **Lesley Stockton**: Um, not really.
**克里斯汀·西雷特**: 我也对它爱不释手。我甚至有个习惯：每次去朋友家做客或者聚餐，只要发现他们还在用糟糕的钝勺子挖冰淇淋，我就会在下次去的时候直接买一把 Zeroll 送给他们当乔迁或聚会伴手礼。
Original English **Christine Cyrille**: I will say that I like everything about this scoop, too. And when I go to people's homes and scoop ice cream, if they have a bad scoop, I literally buy this for them as a gift.
**莱斯利·斯托克顿**: 这招太棒了，简直是做客送礼的绝佳选择！
Original English **Lesley Stockton**: That's a great move.
**克里斯汀·西雷特**: 这样既体面，又能拯救所有人的吃甜品体验。
Original English **Christine Cyrille**: No, listen, when I give somebody something that I love, I just frame it as, "I have this thing, and I love it so much, and you need it in your life."
**莱斯利·斯托克顿**: 我太赞同了。
Original English **Lesley Stockton**: I love that.
**克里斯汀·西雷特**: 既是完美的伴手礼，又是冰淇淋爱好者的生日首选。
Original English **Christine Cyrille**: Okay, so you've got your hostess gift, your birthday gift for ice cream lovers.
**莱斯利·斯托克顿**: 我能不能再夸一下它勺碗的弧度造型？
Original English **Lesley Stockton**: Can I just mention also the shape of the bowl?
**克里斯汀·西雷特**: 当然可以，请细细道来！
Original English **Christine Cyrille**: Yes, tell us more.
**莱斯利·斯托克顿**: 它挖出来的冰淇淋球不仅规整，而且是一个极其饱满浑圆的完美球体。那个造型和视觉效果简直令人身心愉悦。
Original English **Lesley Stockton**: It makes the perfect round scoop. It makes perfect balls. It's really well-designed. I just really don't find any fault in it.
--- ### 第四件利器：可终身自维修的咖啡研磨机 **克里斯汀·西雷特**: 莱斯利，趁你今天在场，虽然不在原定议程中，但我必须抓紧机会问问你：除了冰淇淋勺，名人堂里还有哪款厨房电器是你每天都在用的真爱之选？
Original English **Christine Cyrille**: Leslie, while I have you, not to put you on the spot, but is there another kitchen pick in our Hall of Fame that you love?
**莱斯利·斯托克顿**: 绝对是 **Baratza Encore 咖啡研磨机**（Baratza Encore Coffee Grinder）。做咖啡可能是我每天早上走进厨房做的第一件事，而那台磨豆机是我每天在厨房里触碰的第一个电器。
Original English **Lesley Stockton**: Okay, so coffee is probably the thing I do every single day in my kitchen. That grinder is the first thing I touch in the morning.
**克里斯汀·西雷特**: 确实，每天清晨的仪式感。
Original English **Christine Cyrille**: Yeah.
**莱斯利·斯托克顿**: 我之所以深爱它，是因为它的**研磨一致性**极其出色。从超细研磨到超粗手冲法压研磨，出粉均匀度都非常稳定。而且最重要的一点是：**这台机器被设计成允许用户自行维修**。
Original English **Lesley Stockton**: I love it because it is consistent. It grinds very consistently from super fine to super coarse. And it's made to be repaired.
**克里斯汀·西雷特**: 这在充斥着计划性报废的现代家电领域太难能可贵了！你自己亲自动手修过它吗？
Original English **Christine Cyrille**: Oh, that's awesome. Have you repaired it yourself?
**莱斯利·斯托克顿**: 是的，我自己亲手修过好几次！Baratza 官方在官网上提供所有零部件的零售，而且价格非常亲民，发货极快。我换过侧面的启动开关旋钮，换过顶部的齿轮垫圈。只要某个小零件老化了，你不需要把整台机器扔进垃圾填埋场再花几百美元买新的，花几美元买个零件换上，它就立刻满血复活，能陪伴你十年甚至几十年。
Original English **Lesley Stockton**: And the parts are really easy to get. And so I have replaced the little switch on the side that turns it on, and various small gaskets. You don't have to throw the whole machine away when a small part wears out; you can fix it and keep it running for decades.
**克里斯汀·西雷特**: 莱斯利，和你聊天总是这么长知识又让人心情愉悦。非常感谢你今天的分享，迫不及待想下次再请你来做客了！
Original English **Christine Cyrille**: All right, Lesley, it has been fantastic talking to you. I cannot wait for you to return and share more knowledge on the show.
**莱斯利·斯托克顿**: 我也迫不及待想再来，谢谢你的邀请！
Original English **Lesley Stockton**: I can't wait to come back. Thank you for having me.
--- ### 第五件利器：守护儿童听力的护耳耳机 **克里斯汀·西雷特**: 如果大家在家里默默记账的话，截至目前我们已经盘点了莱泽曼 Skeletool CX 多功能工具、神级 Korky 蜂巢马桶柱塞、Zeroll 冰淇淋勺以及 Baratza Encore 咖啡磨豆机。广告之后，我们将揭晓两款重磅产品：一款能守护孩子听力健康的儿童专属耳机，以及一款能清除你家室内空气污染物的神级净化器。请勿走开，马上回来！ 欢迎回来！今天我们正在盘点 Wirecutter 编辑部评选出的首批名人堂终极好物。接下来要登场的是我们音频团队的资深特约撰稿人**劳伦·德拉根**（Lauren Dragan）。劳伦在 Wirecutter 专门负责耳机评测。听过我们播客的老听众一定知道，劳伦在她的职业生涯中亲测过超过 **2000 副耳机**。这真是一个令人叹为观止的数字。今天，她要为我们介绍一款改变了无数孩子及家长生活的耳机：**Puro Sound Labs BT2200 Plus**。劳伦，非常欢迎你回到节目！
Original English **Christine Cyrille**: If you're keeping track at home, so far we have covered the Leatherman Skeletool CX, a bonus Korky Plunger, the Zeroll Ice Cream Scoop, and the Baratza Encore coffee grinder. Coming up after the break, we're going to talk about a Hall of Fame pick that can reduce the pollutants in your home, and a pick for kids. Stick around. Welcome back. Today we are covering some of Wirecutter's all-time favorite items now enshrined in our new hall of fame. Next up, I'll talk with senior staff writer on the audio team, Lauren Dragan. Lauren covers headphones for Wirecutter. And if you've heard her on the show before, you know that she has tested over 2,000 pairs of headphones throughout her career. That is a lot of headphones. Today she's going to tell us about one pair in particular that's a game-changer for both kids and their adults. Lauren, it is so great to have you back on the show.
**劳伦·德拉根**: 谢谢你，克里斯汀，很高兴再次回来！
Original English **Lauren Dragan**: Thank you. It's great to be back.
**克里斯汀·西雷特**: 我非常喜欢你之前录制的几期节目。你之前来分享过专业音频设备，尤其是你的专长耳机领域。今天我们要聊的是一款长期蝉联 Wirecutter 榜首的经典产品：Puro Sound Labs BT2200。请你告诉大家，这款耳机究竟是什么，为什么它能如此出类拔萃？
Original English **Christine Cyrille**: I really have loved the last couple of episodes you've been on the show for. You've been on a couple times to talk about audio equipment, specifically headphones, which is your specialty. And today we are going to talk about a Wirecutter pick that has been a recommendation for quite a while, the Puro Sound Labs BT2200. I want you to tell me what are these and why are they so great?
**劳伦·德拉根**: 它们是专门为儿童设计的无线耳机。让它们如此卓越的核心原因，首先是它们具备极其严格的**音量限制功能**（volume limiting），这意味着孩子们无法将音量调得过高，从而避免对听力造成永久性损伤。其次，它们超级耐用，而且佩戴极其舒适。所有参与我们盲测的孩子都非常喜欢佩戴。而且让它们极其舒适的一大特色是：它们配备了**可替换耳罩**。你可以根据孩子的头型选择贴耳式小耳罩，或者完全包裹耳朵的罩耳式大耳罩，家长和孩子可以随意按需切换。
Original English **Lauren Dragan**: They are kids headphones and essentially what makes them so great is that they are first of all volume limiting which means that kids can't crank the volume up so loud that it will damage their hearing. Secondly, they're super durable and really comfortable. All of the kids that we had try them on really enjoyed them. And one of the things that makes them comfortable is they have swappable ear cups. So you can have smaller on-ear ones for kids that maybe have smaller heads, or the over-ear ones that go around their ear, and they can choose whichever works for them.
**克里斯汀·西雷特**: 我之前居然不知道它们还附带不同规格的可换耳罩！这太棒了，因为这样耳机就能伴随孩子从幼儿一直用到青少年。这款耳机上榜推荐多久了？
Original English **Christine Cyrille**: I actually didn't realize that they had different cups that you could buy. It's awesome because it really helps you scale from, you know, little kids to big kids. How long have these been a recommendation?
**劳伦·德拉根**: 这个具体型号（BT2200 / BT2200 Plus）作为首选推荐已经长达 7 年了；但如果算上该系列最初的初代产品，我们推荐 Puro 这个品牌已经有整整 **10 年**之久了。
Original English **Lauren Dragan**: So, this specific model, I think, has been a pick for seven years, but if you include the earliest iteration of the line, it's been about 10 years.
**克里斯汀·西雷特**: 哇，这真的是一段很长的时间跨度。你在儿童耳机领域做过极其重磅且开创性的调查报道。能给我们讲讲儿童耳机的内幕以及为什么需要专门的限制器吗？
Original English **Christine Cyrille**: Wow. That's a good chunk of time. So, you did some really groundbreaking reporting around kids headphones. What is the deal with kids headphones and why do they need a limiter?
**劳伦·德拉根**: 当我们最初开展这项调查时，市场上只有少数几家公司宣称自己的耳机具有“音量限制”功能，声称能将声音控制在世界卫生组织和美国疾控中心推荐的安全上限 **85 分贝**（dB）以内。
Original English **Lauren Dragan**: So, when we initially looked into these, there were, you know, a handful of companies that had headphones that claimed they were volume limiting to 85 dB, which is the recommended threshold.
**克里斯汀·西雷特**: 没错。而且重点并不在于孩子会突然播放一声刺耳的巨响，而是在于长时间暴露在高分贝噪音中会对耳蜗毛细胞造成不可逆的累积伤害。
Original English **Christine Cyrille**: Yes. And the thing is, it's not like we're expecting them to just blast one loud sound. It's that over time, continuous loud exposure damages hearing.
**劳伦·德拉根**: 超过 85 分贝的持续暴露就会导致听力受损。
Original English **Lauren Dragan**: dB.
**劳伦·德拉根**: 是的。而当我们用专业声学仪器进行实验室测量时，残酷的真相浮出水面：当时市面上绝大多数声称有音量限制的儿童耳机根本名不副实！许多耳机在特定频段轻松飙到了 95 甚至 105 分贝以上！
Original English **Lauren Dragan**: Yes. Let's just say that a lot of the headphones that said that they did all of that back then didn't. Some of them let sound get dangerously loud above 85 dB.
**劳伦·德拉根**: 它们的限音电路要么在插入耳机线时失效，要么根本无法承受高功率输入。而 Puro 是极少数无论在蓝牙无线模式还是在有线连接模式下，都能真正严格压制在 85 分贝安全线以内的品牌。
Original English **Lauren Dragan**: And those were not performing as they were supposed to be. So that was an issue. Puro was one of the few that actually stayed within the safe limit reliably whether wired or wireless.
**劳伦·德拉根**: 此外，它们的音质也非常好。我知道这听起来好像是很基本的要求，但你会惊讶于市面上绝大多数儿童耳机的音质有多么粗制滥造——低音轰头浑浊，高音刺耳干瘪。而 Puro 拥有非常均衡细腻的高保真声学调校，孩子们不需要把音量开得很大就能听清人声细节。
Original English **Lauren Dragan**: Well, they also just sound good. And I know that sounds so basic, but you would be surprised at how many pairs we tested that sounded terrible. Puro has balanced sound so kids can actually hear clearly without needing to crank the volume up.
**克里斯汀·西雷特**: 这点太重要了。除了音质好，它们的外观也很有质感，没有那种廉价塑料感。
Original English **Christine Cyrille**: It is nice to have. And then, you know, aside from that, they're fun enough, but they don't look like cheap plastic toys.
**劳伦·德拉根**: 没错！这正是最初吸引我的一大亮点。它们看起来就像成年人佩戴的高档金属耳机，而不是卡通塑料玩具，因此大龄儿童和青少年完全不会觉得幼稚而抗拒佩戴。
Original English **Lauren Dragan**: That's a great point. I think that's also what attracted me to them in the first place because they look like sleek adult headphones, so older kids won't reject them as babyish.
**克里斯汀·西雷特**: 你们测试这些耳机时用的是怎样的测试设备？
Original English **Christine Cyrille**: What do you use to test them?
**劳伦·德拉根**: 我们在声学实验室中使用符合行业标准的**人工耳仿真测试头架**（acoustical artificial ear fixture），我们目前正从一套测试设备升级到另一套更先进的国际标准测试系统。
Original English **Lauren Dragan**: We use industry-standard acoustical head and torso simulators with artificial ear fixtures, transitioning between measurement rigs to ensure laboratory precision.
**克里斯汀·西雷特**: 天呐，太专业了。
Original English **Christine Cyrille**: My gosh.
**劳伦·德拉根**: 说起来很有意思，当我最初开始测试这批儿童耳机时，我儿子才刚出生不久；而如今他都已经上初中了！
Original English **Lauren Dragan**: Actually, one of the things I didn't get to mention is when I first started testing these, my son was just a baby, and now he's in middle school!
**克里斯汀·西雷特**: 天哪，你在 Wirecutter 呆了多久了？
Original English **Christine Cyrille**: How long have I been at Wirecutter now? I know.
**劳伦·德拉根**: 我是 2013 年 2 月入职的，已经整整 13 年了。
Original English **Lauren Dragan**: Yeah, I came around February of 2013. So, I've been here 13 years.
**克里斯汀·西雷特**: 13 年！
Original English **Christine Cyrille**: 13 years.
**克里斯汀·西雷特**: 我是 2013 年 3 月入职的！天啊，我们入职时间只差了一个月！
Original English **Christine Cyrille**: I started in March of 2013. We were so close!
**劳伦·德拉根**: 哈哈，真的只差一个月！这真是一段漫长的岁月。
Original English **Lauren Dragan**: So close. Yes. Oh my gosh, that's so funny. Basically an era of time.
**克里斯汀·西雷特**: 确实是一个时代。好的，我还想问你最后一个关于这款耳机的问题：在当前版本中，有任何你觉得还可以进一步改进的地方吗？
Original English **Christine Cyrille**: Yeah, it's so long. Okay, I want to ask you one more question about the Puro headphones. Is there anything about them that you wish could be improved?
**劳伦·德拉根**: 如果我有一根魔法棒，能实现我所有的愿望，我首先希望的是它能配备**可由用户自行更换的电池**。目前市面上几乎所有无线耳机的锂电池寿命终结时，整副耳机就很难继续无线使用了。其次，我希望它能支持全新的 **Auracast** 广播音频技术。
Original English **Lauren Dragan**: Okay, so if I were magic and could have everything I ever wanted, first thing I would want is a user-replaceable battery. And second, I would love for them to include Auracast.
**克里斯汀·西雷特**: 什么是 Auracast？能跟我们科普一下吗？
Original English **Christine Cyrille**: What is Auracast?
**劳伦·德拉根**: Auracast 是一种基于蓝牙 LE Audio 的全新音频共享技术。它允许一个发射源（比如平板电脑或电视）同时向无限多个耳机广播同一个音频流。这样一来，如果家里有两个或更多的孩子坐在后座看同一部电影，他们各自的耳机都能同时无线收听，而不需要互相抢有线分流器插孔！
Original English **Lauren Dragan**: Auracast is a newer Bluetooth technology where essentially one transmitter can broadcast audio to multiple headphones at the same time. So if multiple kids are watching the same movie in the car, they could all listen on their own headphones without cables.
**克里斯汀·西雷特**: 这功能简直太刚需了！家里有多动症小孩或者多子女家庭绝对会感激涕零。劳伦，非常感谢你今天的精彩分享！
Original English **Christine Cyrille**: I would love that. There are so many instances where multiple people want to listen together. Thank you so much for having me. I love being here.
**劳伦·德拉根**: 谢谢邀请，我始终热爱来这里和大家交流！
Original English **Lauren Dragan**: Thank you so much for having me. I love being here.
--- ### 第六件利器：十年坚守的空气净化器战神 **克里斯汀·西雷特**: 好的，我们今天节目的最后一位重量级嘉宾，是负责空气和水过滤等领域的资深特约撰稿人**蒂姆·赫弗南**（Tim Heffernan）。蒂姆，欢迎回到节目！
Original English **Christine Cyrille**: All right, our final guest today is senior staff writer Tim Heffernan, who covers air and water filtration among other things. Tim, welcome back to the show.
**蒂姆·赫弗南**: 谢谢你，克里斯汀，很高兴回来。
Original English **Tim Heffernan**: Thank you. Good to be back.
**克里斯汀·西雷特**: 见到你总是这么高兴。今天我们要谈论的是你负责领域中推荐历史最悠久的产品之一：**Coway AP-1512HH Mighty** 空气净化器。
Original English **Christine Cyrille**: It's so nice to have you. Today we are talking about one of your most longstanding picks, the Coway AP-1512HH Mighty air purifier.
**蒂姆·赫弗南**: 没错，我说真的，我做梦都能倒背出这串长长的型号代码：Coway AP-1512HH Mighty。它就是净化器界的常青树。
Original English **Tim Heffernan**: Yeah, so I mean I can still give you the model number in my sleep. The Coway AP-1512HH Mighty is the long-term king.
**克里斯汀·西雷特**: 根据你的评测推荐，我自己家里就一口气买了三台！在疫情爆发初期，我就入手了它们，在野火季和花粉季它们立下了汗马功劳。
Original English **Christine Cyrille**: I have three of these on your recommendation, and I bought them once the pandemic hit for a variety of reasons.
**蒂姆·赫弗南**: 这其实是一个非常有趣的现象。从宏观整体上看，得益于过去几十年的环境保护法规和汽车排放改善，全美大部分地区的室外大环境空气质量总体上是在稳步改善的。
Original English **Tim Heffernan**: I mean, it's a curious thing, right? Overall, the air quality in the United States has actually improved over the decades due to environmental regulations.
**克里斯汀·西雷特**: 因为空气中的工业尾气污染减少了。
Original English **Christine Cyrille**: Because there's less pollution in the air.
**蒂姆·赫弗南**: 对，法规越来越严格，发动机越来越清洁。但是，近年来由气候变化引发的突发性极端空气事件——尤其是波及数千公里的**山火烟雾**（wildfire smoke）——却呈现出爆发式增长。
Original English **Tim Heffernan**: Right. But what has changed is catastrophic wildfire events sending massive plumes of smoke across the country.
**克里斯汀·西雷特**: 哇。所以对于应对这种突发性的极端环境污染事件，净化器是绝对的救命稻草。不仅如此，居家过敏源和宠物皮屑也是大问题。
Original English **Christine Cyrille**: Wow. So for temporary events like that, it's a huge help. But also if you have indoor allergies.
**克里斯汀·西雷特**: 长期吸入这些细微颗粒物，对人体的健康风险到底有多大？
Original English **Christine Cyrille**: What's the long-term health risk there for the particulate matter?
**蒂姆·赫弗南**: 科学界对这方面的医学研究一直在不断深化。总的来说，核心危害在于所谓的 **PM2.5** 细颗粒物。由于它们的粒径极其微小（直径小于 2.5 微米），人体的鼻腔和呼吸道纤毛根本无法阻挡它们，它们会直接深入肺泡，甚至穿透肺壁屏障进入血液循环系统，引发全身性慢性炎症、心血管疾病以及呼吸道损伤。
Original English **Tim Heffernan**: The research is ongoing. Basically, though, it's that very fine particulate matter (PM2.5) can penetrate deep into your lungs and even enter your bloodstream, causing systemic inflammation, cardiovascular issues, and long-term health risks.
**克里斯汀·西雷特**: 那么消费者去费尽心思挑选所谓的“最佳空气净化器”究竟有多重要？我记得之前听你说过，其实空气净化器背后的技术并不复杂？
Original English **Christine Cyrille**: How much does it matter that you're buying the quote-unquote "best" air purifier? I think I've talked to you before about how the underlying tech isn't actually that mysterious.
**蒂姆·赫弗南**: 确实如此！**HEPA 过滤技术**（High-Efficiency Particulate Air）是一项诞生于 20 世纪中叶二战曼哈顿计划时期的古老技术，其工作原理极其成熟、透明且被充分研究。空气净化器的本质其实极其朴素：一个风扇把空气吸进来，强行压过一张密集的玻璃纤维微孔滤网，然后把过滤后的干净空气吹出来。
Original English **Tim Heffernan**: Right. HEPA filtration is a very old, extremely well-understood, established technology. It's essentially just a fan blowing air through a dense fibrous filter matrix.
**克里斯汀·西雷特**: 既然原理都一样，那你们当年在洛杉矶最初是怎么测试它们的？又是如何持续测试至今的？
Original English **Christine Cyrille**: Okay. So let's talk about how you test these, right? And how did you test them back in the day, and how do you test them now?
**蒂姆·赫弗南**: 我们十年来基本上一直保持着严谨而一致的测试方法。我们在加州专门租用了一个密封的房间，往房间里点燃大量天然材料（比如木柴、艾草和蜡烛）来人工制造出浓度极高的烟雾和微颗粒物，模拟最严苛的火灾与污染场景。
Original English **Tim Heffernan**: We test them basically the same way the whole time. In a sealed room, we burn clean-burning matches, wood, and incense to generate a controlled, heavy cloud of smoke particles to simulate the worst conditions.
**克里斯汀·西雷特**: 哈哈，听起来太有加州特色了！你们房间里是不是还挂了捕梦网或者摆了水晶阵？
Original English **Christine Cyrille**: How LA! Did you also have some crystals in the room, or dream catchers?
**蒂姆·赫弗南**: 哈哈，我们当时真应该在窗户上挂几个捕梦网！我们往封闭房间里注入浓烟，使颗粒物浓度飙升到危险爆表水平，然后打开净化器，精确记录它把室内空气彻底净化到无尘水平所消耗的时间与能耗。
Original English **Tim Heffernan**: We should have! We would generate high smoke counts and then run the purifier on high for 30 minutes, measuring exactly how rapidly it reduced particles.
**克里斯汀·西雷特**: 你刚才提到了粒子计数器。你能详细说说那是一台什么样的仪器吗？
Original English **Christine Cyrille**: You talked about a particle counter. Can you tell me more about that? What kind of device is that?
**蒂姆·赫弗南**: 它的型号是 **AeroTrak 9306-V2**（或类似版本）。它是一台价值不菲的工业级实验室激光粒子计数器。它以恒定流速抽取空气，内部的激光束照射通过的气流，根据光散射脉冲精确计算出每立方英尺空气中各个粒径分级（从 0.3 微米到 10 微米）的颗粒物绝对数量。
Original English **Tim Heffernan**: It's an AeroTrak particle counter. It draws air in at a calibrated rate and uses a laser to count and size individual particles per cubic foot from 0.3 microns up to 10 microns.
**蒂姆·赫弗南**: 早年测试成本很高，我们都是花巨资按周向专业实验室租赁这台设备的。后来测试规模越来越大，公司终于同意直接给我买了一台。
Original English **Tim Heffernan**: The company bought me one after a while. We used to rent it.
**克里斯汀·西雷特**: Wirecutter 亲自出资买下的！
Original English **Christine Cyrille**: Wirecutter company!
**蒂姆·赫弗南**: 是的，Wirecutter 专门出资购置了这台专业设备。
Original English **Tim Heffernan**: Wirecutter bought me one, and that's—
**克里斯汀·西雷特**: 这简直就是为你十周年颁发的“金表”大奖啊！
Original English **Christine Cyrille**: For your 10th anniversary, here's an industrial particle counter!
**蒂姆·赫弗南**: 哈哈，确实，这就是属于我的金表！不过这意味着我们随时随地都能展开精确的量化对比测试。
Original English **Tim Heffernan**: That's like my gold watch, exactly! But now we always have it on hand, which lets us test consistently year-round.
**克里斯汀·西雷特**: 这太棒了。你测试空气净化器几乎十年了，在这期间，净化器核心技术有发生什么颠覆性的飞跃吗？
Original English **Christine Cyrille**: That's great. So, you've been testing these for almost a decade. Has purifier technology fundamentally changed?
**蒂姆·赫弗南**: 很多净化器厂商在营销宣传中极力想让消费者相信技术发生了翻天覆地的变化。但坦白讲，**根本没有**。HEPA 物理过滤的物理学定律从未改变。市面上所谓的新奇概念，大多是营销噱头。Coway Mighty 之所以能够统治榜单十年，是因为它把基础机械工程做到了极致：安静、极其省电、风道优化完美、滤网便宜且容易买到，而且机身极其可靠皮实。
Original English **Tim Heffernan**: A lot of purifier manufacturers would like you to think so, but the answer is basically no. HEPA filtration really hasn't changed. The Coway Mighty remains unbeatable because it gets the fundamentals right: quiet operation, low energy consumption, affordable and widely available filters, and exceptional durability.
**蒂姆·赫弗南**: 不过，Coway 最近做了一件大好事——他们终于去掉了以前机身上我唯一不喜欢的功能：那个**负离子发生器**（ionizer）。
Original English **Tim Heffernan**: They took away the one thing that I didn't like recently, which is good: it always had an onboard ionizer, and they finally eliminated it.
**克里斯汀·西雷特**: 负离子功能到底有什么问题？它在物理上是做什么的？
Original English **Christine Cyrille**: What does ionizing do?
**蒂姆·赫弗南**: 简单来说，负离子发生器通过高压电晕放电向空气中释放带电粒子，给悬浮灰尘施加静电电荷，使它们吸附在附近的墙壁或家具表面，或者产生极其微量的臭氧副产物。这不仅对净化空气没有实质帮助，而且臭氧本身还会刺激敏感人群的呼吸道。现在他们彻底拿掉了这个鸡肋功能，整台机器更加纯粹完美。
Original English **Tim Heffernan**: Basically, it imparts a charge to particles in the air so they stick to surfaces, but it can produce trace ozone as a byproduct, which can irritate lungs. Removing that makes it a much cleaner, purely mechanical filter.
**克里斯汀·西雷特**: 原来它以前只有黑白两色可选，现在外观有变化吗？
Original English **Christine Cyrille**: It used to be only in white and black.
**蒂姆·赫弗南**: 过去是经典的黑白两色，现在他们还新推出了一款非常温润雅致的**米色/米燕麦色**，放在各种现代家居环境里都非常协调耐看。
Original English **Tim Heffernan**: White and black, and now a beige option, which is actually really attractive and blends into home decor nicely.
**克里斯汀·西雷特**: 听起来就很赏心悦目。蒂姆，非常感谢你，今天能和你畅聊实在太棒了！
Original English **Christine Cyrille**: Oh, nice. I can see that. Thank you so much, Tim. It was great to talk with you.
**蒂姆·赫弗南**: 我也非常高兴能来，聊得很开心！
Original English **Tim Heffernan**: It was great talking with you.
--- ### 尾声：致敬经得起岁月检验的经典之作 **克里斯汀·西雷特**: 如果大家想了解还有哪些产品荣登 Wirecutter 名人堂首批 50 款榜单，请务必访问我们的官方网站。我们也会在节目简介中附上所有推荐好物的链接。道格，在真正说再见之前，我们还有什么彩蛋吗？
Original English **Christine Cyrille**: To find out about what other products made the Wirecutter Hall of Fame, check out our website. We'll also drop links to all of these picks in our show notes. Doug, do we get a little bonus before we wrap up?
**道格·马奥尼**: 当然，大家还能收获一份通马桶的彩蛋知识！
Original English **Doug Mahoney**: Sure. You get a little bonus plunger.
**道格·马奥尼**: 我无论何时都热衷于向大家传授究竟如何正确使用马桶柱塞：先把柱塞斜着浸入水中，排出内部残留的空气并灌满水，将蜂巢状前端紧紧贴合排污口形成完美密封，然后利用水的不可压缩性进行有节奏的推拉疏通。这是我们 Wirecutter 每年至少必须向全社会进行一次的官方公益科普！
Original English **Doug Mahoney**: We get a little bonus plunger tip! Always love to describe to people how to properly plunge a toilet: get the air out, seal the beehive shape over the drain, and push water against the clog. It is our official duty to do that PSA at least once a year.