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date: '2026-04-23'
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  - suicide-prevention
  - forced-labor
  - geopolitical-strategy
title: 地缘政治迷雾：伊朗领导权之争与多领域危机观察
summary: 本文深度解析了伊朗地缘政治局势，聚焦最高领袖受伤后的权力真空与军方影响力上升；探讨了美国对俄石油制裁的经济影响，以及国内“无惊喜法案”的意外后果，如医疗账单欺诈与 988 心理援助热线的成效。同时，还关注了“Laboo”玩偶中的强迫劳动问题。这些议题共同揭示了国际冲突、经济政策、社会保障及人权等领域错综复杂的挑战。
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  - Ayatollah Mosh Baham
  - President Trump
  - Scott Bessant
  - Sarah Cliff
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  - The New York Times
  - Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps
  - Treasury Department
  - Congress
  - PopMart
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### 伊朗领导权真空与地缘政治动荡

当前，随着**美国**试图斡旋以结束**伊朗**的战争，一个关键问题浮出水面：谁真正掌控着伊朗？新任最高领袖**阿亚图拉·莫什·巴哈姆**（Ayatollah Mosh Baham）在战争初期的一次空袭中受伤，这次袭击也导致其父——前任最高领袖丧生。自此，他一直处于隐匿状态以养伤，并且自上任以来，尚未在公众场合露面。这种不确定性加剧了对国家领导层动荡的担忧。为了梳理伊朗新的权力结构，**《纽约时报》**采访了多位**伊朗**高级官员、**伊斯兰革命卫队**（Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps）成员以及熟悉该国内部运作的人士。

多位官员透露，**巴哈姆**（Homine）的伤势严重，手部和腿部均接受了手术，面部和嘴唇也有严重烧伤，导致他难以开口说话。他们表示，尽管他思维敏锐且参与度高，但为了避免在首次公开露面时显得软弱，他尚未发布任何视频或音频信息。此外，出于可能再次成为目标的担忧，传达给他的信息都需手写，密封在信封中，并通过一条“人链”从一名信使传递给下一名信使。他们乘坐汽车和摩托车，在高速公路和乡村道路上穿行，直至抵达他的藏身之处。他的回应也以同样的方式传回。伤势与联络困难的双重因素，已促使**巴哈姆**将决策权下放给**革命卫队**的指挥官。这使得强硬派军方实际上掌握了主导权。正是这些将军们提出了关闭**霍尔木兹海峡**（Strait of Hormuz）以及打击**海湾**邻国的战略。他们也是同意临时停火并决定在本周叫停更多和平谈判的一方，因为他们认为**特朗普**总统试图迫使**伊朗**投降。总而言之，**伊朗**官员告诉**《纽约时报》**，将军们此刻感到信心十足，认为他们已成功阻止了**美国**和**以色列**推翻该政权，并且国家在冲突中仍保有谈判筹码。

<details>
<summary>Original English</summary>

From
 the
 New
 York
 Times,
 it's
 the


headlines.
 I'm
 Tracy
 Mumpford.
 Today's


Thursday,
 April
 23rd.
 Here's
 what
 we're


covering.


One
 of
 the
 key
 questions
 swirling
 as
 the


US
 attempts
 to
 negotiate
 an
 end
 to
 the


war
 in
 Iran
 is
 who
 is
 really
 running


Iran?


The
 new
 supreme
 leader,
 Ayatollah
 Mosh


Baham,
 was
 wounded
 in
 air
 strikes
 at
 the


start
 of
 the
 war,
 which
 killed
 his


father,
 the
 previous
 Supreme
 Leader,
 and


he's
 been
 in
 hiding
 while
 he
 recovers.


He
 still
 has
 not
 been
 seen
 in
 public


since
 he
 took
 over,
 and
 that
 has
 fed


into
 uncertainty
 about
 the
 country's


leadership.
 To
 try
 and
 trace
 Iran's
 new


power
 structure,
 The
 Times
 spoke
 with


senior
 Iranian
 officials,
 members
 of
 the


Islamic
 Revolutionary
 Guards
 Corps,
 and


others
 familiar
 with
 the
 country's
 inner


workings.


Several
 officials
 told
 the
 Times
 that


Homine's
 injuries
 are
 severe.
 He's
 had


surgery
 on
 his
 hand
 and
 leg,
 and
 his


face
 and
 lips
 were
 badly
 burned,
 making


it
 difficult
 for
 him
 to
 speak.
 They
 say


he's
 sharp
 and
 engaged,
 but
 he
 hasn't


released
 a
 video
 or
 audio
 message


because
 he
 doesn't
 want
 to
 appear
 weak


in
 his
 first
 public
 address.
 Also,


because
 of
 fears
 he
 could
 be
 targeted


again,
 messages
 to
 him
 are
 handwritten,


sealed
 in
 envelopes,
 and
 relayed
 via
 a


human
 chain
 from
 one
 courier
 to
 the


next.
 They
 travel
 on
 highways
 and
 back


roads,
 in
 cars,
 and
 on
 motorcycles
 until


they
 reach
 his
 hideout.
 His
 responses
 go


back
 the
 same
 way.
 That
 combination
 of


his
 injuries
 and
 the
 challenge
 of


reaching
 him
 has
 led
 hommin
 to
 delegate


decision-making
 to
 commanders
 in
 the


revolutionary
 guards
 corps.
 It's


essentially
 left
 the
 hardline
 military


calling
 the
 shots.
 Those
 generals
 were


the
 ones
 who
 came
 up
 with
 the
 strategy


of
 closing
 the
 straight
 of
 Hormuz
 and
 of


striking
 neighboring
 countries
 in
 the


Gulf.
 They
 were
 the
 ones
 who
 agreed
 to


the
 temporary
 ceasefire
 and
 who
 decided


to
 pull
 the
 plug
 on
 more
 peace
 talks


this
 week
 because
 they
 felt
 President


Trump
 was
 trying
 to
 pressure
 Iran
 to


surrender.
 Overall,
 Iranian
 officials


tell
 the
 Times
 the
 generals
 are
 feeling


confident
 in
 this
 moment,
 like
 they've


been
 able
 to
 prevent
 the
 US
 and
 Israel


from
 toppling
 the
 regime
 and
 that
 the


country
 still
 has
 leverage
 in
 the


conflict.
</details>

### 战争动态、经济制裁与能源危机

近期，与地区冲突相关的几项更新值得关注。**伊朗**方面，一艘**Creek**货船遭受了袭击。此前有报道称，**伊朗**在**霍尔木兹海峡**（Strait of Hormuz）袭击并扣押了两艘船只，进一步收紧了对这一重要水道的控制。战争前，该海峡每天有超过 130 艘船只通行，人们曾希望停火协议能使这一数字回升。然而，随着**伊朗**恢复其袭击行动，海峡交通几乎完全中断。

在经济层面，**美国财政部**部长**斯科特·贝桑特**（Scott Bessant）昨日重申了**特朗普**政府决定延长对**俄罗斯**石油的制裁豁免，此举旨在缓解因战争引发的能源危机。此前，**俄罗斯**石油因乌克兰战争而被列入黑名单。但**财政部**表示，希望确保“所有石油”都能供应给有需要的地区。**贝桑特**在三月份首次暂停了制裁，并称其为临时措施。然而，一项分析显示，这一举措导致**俄罗斯**石油收入激增，上月几乎翻倍，为**克里姆林宫**提供了财政支持。

此外，**特朗普**总统正面临**美国**在**伊朗**军事行动的最后期限。根据法律，总统在未经**国会**批准的情况下可发动战争 60 天。但在此之后，**国会**需要授权才能继续。对**特朗普**而言，这一日期是 5 月 1 日，即下周五。尽管**国会**中的**共和党人**迄今为止大多支持他的行动，但一些人已表明，他们不会在最后期限后继续提供支持。如果**国会**不授权继续战争，**特朗普**将不得不立即撤军，或者给自己一次性 30 天的延期，用于安全撤离**美**军。不过，他也有可能完全无视最后期限，尽管这并非史无前例。2011 年，**奥巴马**总统在**利比亚**的军事行动就曾超过 60 天，引发了跨党派的强烈反对。

<details>
<summary>Original English</summary>

>> I
 can
 confirm
 that
 there
 was
 an
 attack


against
 the
 Creek
 cargo
 ship.


>> Yesterday,
 there
 were
 reports
 that
 Iran


fired
 on
 and
 seized
 two
 ships
 in
 the


straight
 of
 Hormuz
 as
 it
 tightens
 its


strangle
 hold
 on
 the
 waterway.
 Before


the
 war,
 more
 than
 130
 vessels
 went


through
 the
 straight
 every
 day,
 and


there
 was
 hope
 the
 ceasefire
 would
 get


those
 numbers
 back
 up.
 But
 with
 Iran


renewing
 its
 attacks,
 traffic
 in
 the


straight
 has
 pretty
 much
 come
 to
 a
 halt.


Also,


>> I
 was
 approached
 by
 more
 than
 10
 of
 the


most
 vulnerable
 and
 poorest
 countries
 in


terms
 of
 energy,
 and
 they
 asked
 us
 to


extend
 that
 sanction.


>> Treasury
 Secretary
 Scott
 Bessant
 doubled


down
 yesterday
 on
 the
 Trump


administration's
 decision
 to
 extend
 a


sanctions
 exemption
 on
 Russian
 oil
 as
 a


way
 of
 trying
 to
 ease
 the
 energy
 crisis


sparked
 by
 the
 war.
 Russian
 oil
 had


previously
 been
 blacklisted
 because
 of


the
 war
 in
 Ukraine,
 but
 the
 Treasury


Department
 said
 it
 wants
 to
 ensure
 quote


all
 oil
 is
 available
 to
 those
 who
 need


it.
 Bessant
 first
 paused
 the
 sanctions


in
 March,
 saying
 it
 was
 temporary.


According
 to
 one
 analysis,
 that
 move


caused
 Russian
 oil
 revenues
 to
 surge,


nearly
 doubling
 last
 month
 and
 providing


a
 financial
 lifeline
 for
 the
 Kremlin.


And
 last
 update
 on
 the
 war.
 President


Trump
 is
 staring
 down
 a
 looming
 deadline


for
 US
 military
 operations
 in
 Iran.
 By


law,
 the
 president
 can
 wage
 war
 for
 60


days
 without
 getting
 congressional


approval.
 But
 at
 that
 point,
 lawmakers


need
 to
 authorize
 it
 to
 continue.
 For


Trump,
 that
 date
 is
 May
 1st,
 next


Friday.
 While
 Republicans
 in
 Congress


have
 largely
 backed
 his
 campaign
 so
 far,


some
 have
 signaled
 they
 won't
 continue


that
 support
 after
 that
 deadline.
 If


lawmakers
 don't
 authorize
 the
 war,
 Trump


will
 either
 have
 to
 pull
 back


immediately
 or
 give
 himself
 a
 one-time


30-day
 extension
 that
 would
 be
 used
 to


safely
 withdraw
 US
 forces.
 There's
 also


a
 chance
 he
 could
 push
 past
 the
 deadline


altogether,
 though,
 which
 would
 not
 be


unprecedented.
 In
 2011,
 President
 Obama


continued
 military
 operations
 in
 Libya


past
 60
 days,
 which
 prompted
 bipartisan


backlash.
</details>

### 国内医疗改革的意外代价与生命救援成效

几年前，**共和党**和**民主党**议员联手，试图解决**医疗**保健中最昂贵且令人头疼的问题之一：意外账单（surprise billing）。每年，数百万**美国**民众在紧急就医时，有时会遇到网络外医生，导致账单远超其健康计划的正常覆盖范围。为此，**国会**通过了《无意外法案》（No Surprises Act），禁止网络外医生直接向患者收费。取而代之的是，医生可以将索赔提交给政府批准的仲裁员，以论证其保险公司应支付的金额。

据称，这项新法律在很大程度上解决了意外医疗账单问题，患者不再处于保险公司与医生之间的账单纠纷中。然而，**《纽约时报》**的调查发现，医生们正向这一新的仲裁系统提交数百万份索赔，并获得了远高于以往的报销费率。**《纽约时报》**的调查性**医疗**记者**莎拉·克里夫**（Sarah Cliff）深入研究了新系统的运作方式：双方各自提交对所提供**医疗**服务的合理定价，并附带一些论据，然后由仲裁员从中选择一方的意见，不存在中间地带，即一方必胜，且仲裁员的裁决是最终决定，不可上诉。

有时，保险公司和医生提出的数字差异巨大。一项案例显示，保险公司为一次脑血流测试提出了 2,600 美元，而医生则索赔 330,000 美元，最终医生赢得了该笔赔付。研究发现，在数百万份索赔的庞大数据集中，这种情况反复出现，例如，妇科医生在进行一种名为**IUD**（宫内节育器）的避孕措施时，能获得高达正常费率 600 倍的报酬。医生们压倒性地赢得了这些争端，占到 88% 的案件。这种不成比例的结果令人困惑，甚至让起草该法案的议员感到意外。一种理论是，仲裁员按案件付费，因此有激励倾向于支持医生，以获得更多业务。另一种观点是，公众对医生的好感度普遍高于保险公司，仲裁员可能也存在类似的普遍偏见。**莎拉**表示，由于医生获得巨额新报销，一些保险公司被迫提高患者的保费，实际上是将新仲裁系统的成本转嫁给了消费者。

在另一个社会议题上，一项本周发布的研究表明，几年前实施的一项全国性**自杀**预防计划，使得**美国**青少年**自杀**率有所下降。这项名为“988”的**自杀**与危机生命线旨在将原有的 10 位数热线简化为简易的 988 号码，类似于**心理健康**领域的 911。**国会**还为此投入了超过 10 亿美元用于支持危机中心。研究发现，在生命线启动后的头两年半里，**美国**年轻人的**自杀**率比预测值低了 11%。尽管可能有其他因素促成了这一下降，例如该热线恰逢**疫情**高峰期结束之际，但研究通过比较各州的**自杀**率发现，那些呼叫 988 电话次数激增的地区，青少年**自杀**率的下降幅度显著大于呼叫量增长较小的地区。自 988 启动以来，已处理超过 2500 万次电话、短信和在线聊天。**美国卫生与公众服务部**（Department of Health and Human Services）已向**国会**申请额外 5 亿美元，用于下一年度的该项目。

<details>
<summary>Original English</summary>

A
 couple
 of
 years
 ago,
 Republican
 and


Democratic
 lawmakers
 banded
 together
 to


take
 on
 one
 of the
 most
 costly
 and


frustrating
 parts
 of
 medical
 care,


surprise
 billing.
 Every
 year,
 millions


of
 Americans
 who
 unexpectedly
 saw
 a


doctor
 out
 of
 network,
 often
 in


emergency
 rooms,
 would
 be
 hit
 with
 far


higher
 bills
 than
 what
 their
 health


plans
 normally
 covered.
 So,
 Congress


passed
 the
 No
 Surprises
 Act,
 which


barred
 out
 of
 network
 doctors
 from


billing
 patients
 directly.
 Instead,


physicians
 can
 take
 their
 claim
 to
 a


government
 approved
 arbitrator
 to
 try


and
 make
 a
 case
 for
 how
 much
 they
 think


the
 patients
 insurance
 company
 should


pay
 them.
 This
 new
 law
 by
 all
 accounts


did
 do
 a
 lot
 to
 solve
 the
 problem
 of


surprise
 medical
 bills.
 So
 patients
 are


no
 longer
 in
 the
 middle
 of
 these
 billing


disputes
 between
 insurers
 and
 doctors.


But
 what
 we
 found
 is
 that
 doctors
 have


been
 flooding
 this
 new
 arbitration


system
 with
 millions
 of
 claims
 and


getting
 paid
 rates
 much
 much
 higher
 than


they
 did
 in
 the
 past.
 Sarah
 Cliff
 is
 an


investigative
 health
 reporter
 at
 the


Times
 who's
 been
 looking
 into
 how
 the


new
 system
 works.
 Each
 side
 submits
 what


they
 think
 is
 a
 fair
 price
 for
 the


medical
 care
 rendered.
 They
 submit
 some


arguments
 and
 then
 the
 arbitrator


selects
 one
 of
 them.
 There
 is
 no
 middle


ground.
 Somebody
 is
 going
 to
 win.
 And


once
 the
 arbitrator
 picks
 someone,
 that


is
 the
 final
 decision.
 There
 is
 no
 route


to
 appeal.
 Sometimes
 the
 numbers
 that


insurers
 and
 doctors
 bring
 to
 the
 table


are
 wildly
 different.


There
 was
 one
 case
 that
 we
 looked
 at


where
 the
 insurance
 company
 offered


$2,600
 for
 a
 test
 of
 blood
 flow
 to
 the


brain.
 The
 doctor
 asked
 for
 $330,000


and
 they
 won
 that
 dispute
 and
 got
 that


money.
 We
 saw
 this
 happening
 repeatedly


in
 this
 massive
 data
 set
 that
 had


millions
 of
 claims.
 We
 saw
 gynecologists


who
 were
 getting
 600
 times
 the
 normal


rates
 for
 placing
 a
 contraceptive
 called


an
 IUD.
 And
 the
 doctors
 are


overwhelmingly
 winning
 these
 disputes.


We
 found
 that
 in
 88%
 of
 the
 cases,
 they


win
 and
 they're
 often
 winning
 hundreds


of
 times
 of
 what
 they
 used
 to
 get
 paid


before
 this
 law
 passed.


One
 of
 the
 mysteries
 is
 why
 the
 results


are
 so
 lopsided.
 It
 surprised
 the


lawmakers
 who
 wrote
 this
 law
 when
 we


asked
 them
 about
 it.
 There
 are
 a
 few


theories.
 One
 is
 that
 the
 arbitrators


are
 paid
 on
 a
 per
 case
 basis.
 So
 they


have
 an
 incentive
 to
 render
 decisions


favorable
 to
 doctors
 to
 have
 doctors


continue
 bringing
 them
 disputes.
 Another


is
 that
 doctors
 are
 just
 viewed
 more


positively
 by
 the
 public
 than
 insurance


plans
 are.
 And
 maybe
 arbitrators
 have


those
 same
 kind
 of
 biases
 that
 the


general
 public
 does.


Sarah
 says,
 "As
 a
 result
 of
 the
 huge
 new


payouts
 doctors
 are
 getting,
 some


insurance
 companies
 say
 they're
 having


to
 raise
 premiums
 for
 patients,


essentially
 passing
 along
 the
 cost
 of


this
 new
 arbitration
 system.


A
 study
 out
 this
 week
 found
 that
 after
 a


national
 suicide
 prevention
 effort
 went


into
 effect
 a
 few
 years
 ago,
 the
 rate
 of


youth
 suicides
 in
 the
 US
 dropped.
 Three


numbers
 helped
 me
 find
 the
 help
 I


needed.


>> 988,
 suicide
 and
 crisis
 lifeline.


>> The
 idea
 was
 to
 basically
 create
 the
 911


of
 mental
 health,
 taking
 a
 10-digit


hotline
 number
 and
 simplifying
 it
 to


just
 988.


Lawmakers
 also
 put
 more
 than
 a
 billion


dollars
 towards
 supporting
 crisis


centers.
 Now,
 researchers
 have
 found


that
 in
 the
 first
 two
 and
 a
 half
 years


after
 the
 hotline
 launched,
 the
 rate
 of


suicides
 among
 young
 people
 was
 11%


below
 projections.
 There
 could
 be
 other


factors
 driving
 the
 drop.
 For
 one
 thing,


the
 hotline
 launched
 right
 as
 the


country
 was
 coming
 out
 of
 the
 depths
 of


the
 pandemic.
 But
 to
 try
 and
 get
 a
 true


sense
 of
 the
 hotline's
 impact,
 the
 study


compared
 suicide
 rates
 between
 states.


It
 found
 that
 in
 places
 that
 had
 the


biggest
 surge
 in
 calls
 to
 988,
 youth


suicide
 rates
 dropped
 significantly
 more


than
 places
 that
 saw
 a
 smaller
 uptick
 in


calls.
 Overall,
 since
 988
 launched,
 it's


fielded
 more
 than
 25
 million
 calls,


texts,
 and
 online
 chats.
 According
 to


the
 Department
 of
 Health
 and
 Human


Services,
 the
 agency
 has
 asked
 Congress


for
 another
 half
 billion
 dollars
 to
 fund


the
 program
 for
 next
 year.
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### 全球贸易伦理：Laboo 玩偶与强迫劳动阴影

近年来，**Laboo**（Laboo）玩偶因其可爱的毛绒形象，在全球范围内掀起了一股潮流，从背包挂饰到高级时装秀场，随处可见。购买者们不惜排长队、熬夜等待，甚至支付数千美元来获得这些玩偶。然而，最近有报道指出，部分**Laboo**玩偶中使用的棉花被**美国**禁止进口，原因是担心其中可能涉及**强迫劳动**。

**美国**政府已限制从**中国****新疆**地区进口棉花，理由是该地区存在**人权**侵犯行为，**中国**在此对包括维吾尔族在内的少数民族进行了大规模镇压，并设立了拘留营。去年，一个代表维吾尔族等少数群体的非营利组织委托对一个**Laboo**玩偶进行了检测，发现样本中含有来自**新疆**的棉花。**《纽约时报》**随后也委托进行了独立检测，证实部分**Laboo**玩偶确实使用了该地区的棉花。

这一发现可能对销售**Laboo**玩偶的**中国**公司**PopMart**（PopMart）产生严重后果。根据**美国**法律，发现违反进口限制的公司，其所有产品都可能面临禁令。**PopMart**的一位女发言人告诉**《纽约时报》**，公司将对其供应链进行调查，并承诺自身及供应商都将遵守最高标准。一位**美国**国会**中国**委员会的联合主席表示：“**PopMart**应该证明其在美国销售的所有玩偶都不含**强迫劳动**。”

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>> I
 feel
 like
 I
 see
 them
 everywhere
 I


look.


>> It's
 so
 fun
 to
 say,
 too,
 right?


>> The
 Laboo
 craze
 over
 the
 last
 few
 years


has
 meant
 that
 the
 furry
 little
 monster


dolls
 have
 been
 everywhere,
 from


backpack
 keychains
 to
 high
 fashion


runways.


>> We're
 talking
 lines
 through
 the
 mall,


wrapped
 around
 the
 block,
 no
 sleep,
 no


shame.


>> People
 have
 waited
 hours
 to
 buy
 them.


Some
 of
 them
 go
 for
 thousands
 and


thousands
 of
 dollars.
 But
 now,
 some
 of


the
 toys
 have
 been
 found
 to
 contain


cotton
 that's
 actually
 banned
 in
 the
 US


because
 of
 concerns
 about
 forced
 labor.


The
 US
 government
 has
 restricted
 imports


of
 cotton
 from
 the
 Shing
 Jang
 region
 of


China,
 citing
 human
 rights
 violations


after
 China
 carried
 out
 a
 vast
 crackdown


on
 ethnic
 minorities
 there,
 including


detaining
 people
 in
 camps.
 A
 nonprofit


group
 that
 advocates
 on
 behalf
 of


weaguers,
 one
 of
 those
 minority
 groups,


commissioned
 a
 test
 of
 a
 liaboo
 last


year
 and
 found
 the
 sample
 contained


cotton
 grown
 in
 Shing
 Jang.
 The
 Times


then
 commissioned
 its
 own
 testing
 which


confirmed
 that
 some
 Labubus
 have
 cotton


from
 that
 region.
 There
 could
 be
 serious


consequences
 for
 PopMart,
 the
 Chinese


company
 that
 sells
 Laboos.
 Companies


found
 to
 have
 violated
 the
 US
 import


restrictions
 could
 have
 all
 their


products
 banned.
 A
 spokeswoman
 for


PopMart
 told
 the
 Times
 it
 would
 conduct


an
 investigation
 into
 its
 supply
 chains


and
 that
 the
 company
 held
 itself
 and
 its


suppliers
 to
 the
 highest
 standards.


One
 US
 lawmaker
 who
 co-chairs
 a


Congressional
 Commission
 on
 China
 said,


quote,
 "Popmark
 should
 prove
 that
 all
 of


its
 dolls
 in
 the
 United
 States
 are
 slave


labor
 free."
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Those
 are
 the
headlines.
 Today
 on
 the


daily,
 a
 look
 at
 what
 the
 recent


monopoly
 case
 over
 Live
 Nation
 could


mean
 for
 concert
 goers.
 You
 can
 find


that
 in
 the
 New
 York
 Times
 app
 or


wherever
 you
 get
 your
 podcasts.
 I'm


Tracy
 Mumford.
 We'll
 be
 back
 tomorrow


with
 the
 latest
 and
 the
 Friday
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