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date: '2026-10-22'
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title: 初次见面：纽约的宏大图景与普通人的握手焦虑
summary: 《Serial》团队联合《纽约时报》大都会报道部推出新播客《Metro》。主持人 Sarah Koenig 从中央车站擦铜工对握手的焦虑切入，串联起纽约客对生活成本、治安、日间饮酒消逝与欲望的日常忧虑，展现记者深入报道这座城市庞大与琐碎交织的双重面貌。
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  - The New York Times
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  - The Gods of New York
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### 中央车站的擦铜工与握手焦虑

纽约是一个庞然大物般的城市。最高、最大、最好、最差、最多。仿佛它就是由各种最高级词汇构筑而成的。无论好坏，纽约的力量始终在全国、在各大洋之间回荡。仅仅是想起它，就会令人望而生畏。但接着你开始与纽约人交谈，你会意识到他们的生活、他们的忧虑都是正常大小的，符合人类尺度的。

就像我遇到的这个人，克里斯托弗·桑塔纳（Christopher Santana）。他在中央车站工作。你要么去过中央车站，要么在电影里见过它。那是一座巨大的火车站，天花板上绘有辉煌的黄道十二星座图，到处都是黄铜。我和一位摄影师一起去了那里，他当时正在为《纽约时报》做一个关于“仅存在于纽约市的工作”的专题。

克里斯·桑塔纳的工作就是给中央车站擦黄铜。这份工作是永远做不完的，因为擦亮的光泽不会持久。至于黄铜扶手，想都别想，全是指纹。

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New York is a monster of a city. The tallest, the biggest, the best, the worst, the most. As if it's constructed from superlatives. New York's power, for better or worse, has always rumbled across the country, across the oceans. Just the idea of it can be intimidating. But then you start talking to New Yorkers and you realize their lives, their concerns are regular sized, human scale. Like this guy I met, Christopher Santana. He works at Grand Central. Either you've been to Grand Central or you've seen it in the movies. It's the huge train station with the glorious painted ceiling of zodiac constellations and a lot of brass everywhere. I'd gone there with a photographer who was doing a project for the New York Times about jobs that only exist in New York City. Chris Santana's job is to polish the brass at Grand Central. A job that's unfinishable because the polish doesn't last. A brass handrail, forget it. Fingerprints.

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**>>**: 你会想杀了下一个把手放在这扶手上的人吗？

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**>>**: Are you going to kill the next person who puts their hand on this rail?

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**>>**: 天哪。我第二天尽量不去看我擦过的那些地方，因为那样我会非常郁闷的。

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**>>**: Oh god. I try not to look at the areas I did the next day cuz then I'm going to be really upset.

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**>>**: 真的吗？

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**>>**: Is that true?

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**>>**: 是的，我不看。我尽量不看。

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**>>**: Yeah, I don't. I try not to.

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**>>**: 但克里斯喜欢这份工作。这很让人放松。他说这给了他思考的时间，因为面对现实吧，擦黄铜挺枯燥的。只比解释怎么擦黄铜稍微不那么无聊一点点。

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**>>**: But Chris likes this work. It's relaxing. He said gives him time to think because let's face it, polishing brass is kind of boring. Only slightly less boring than explaining how to polish brass.

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**>>**: 这就像是大量的摩擦。是大量的——不，这是清洁。所以是大量的摩擦和大量的——好吧，我们可以说是擦拭。这是大量的擦拭工作。

我的意思是，我本来在期待什么呢？不过，作为一个自己也擦过很多黄铜的人（我以前在一家古董店工作），有一件事确实引起了我的兴趣，那就是他不用抹布之类的东西把擦铜剂涂到黄铜上。他戴着那种薄薄的手术手套，然后直接用手把擦铜剂擦在黄铜上。

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**>>**: It's like a lot of rubbing. It's a lot of No, it's cleaning. So, it's a lot of rubbing and a lot of Well, we could say polishing. It's a lot of polishing. I mean, what was I expecting? Though, I will say, as someone who's polished a lot of brass myself, I used to work in an antique store. One thing did interest me, which is that he doesn't use a rag or anything to put the polish on the brass. He wears one of those thin surgical gloves and then rubs the polish on the brass directly.

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**>>**: 你直接用手涂？

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**>>**: How about you're using your hand?

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**>>**: 对。对。是的，我的手劲非常大，但好笑的是，我的握手糟糕透顶。

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**>>**: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I got really strong hands, but funny enough, my handshake sucks.

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**>>**: 你说的“握手糟糕透顶”是什么意思？

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**>>**: What do you mean your handshake sucks?

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**>>**: 我的握力很大，但我握不好手。

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**>>**: I have a strong grip, but I don't have a good handshake.

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**>>**: 为什么不呢？

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**>>**: Why not?

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**>>**: 我不知道。

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**>>**: I don't know.

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**>>**: 克里斯托弗·桑塔纳，布鲁克林之子，纽约市最宏伟的市政纪念建筑之一的守护者。这就是他在中央车站擦黄铜时所担忧的事情。

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**>>**: Christopher Santana, a son of Brooklyn, caretaker of one of New York City's grandest civic monuments. This is what he's worrying about while he's polishing brass at Grand Central.

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**>>**: 我不知道是怎么回事。或者也许我只是不想握。有时候有人会让我措手不及，而且我的手很小。所以也许——也许这就是原因。

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**>>**: I I don't know what it is. Or maybe I just don't want to. Sometimes somebody will catch me off guard and I have small hands. So maybe that that could be it.

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**>>**: 什么？这根本说不通啊。

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**>>**: What? That doesn't make any sense.

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**>>**: 噢，这不能成为借口。不能。

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**>>**: Oh, it doesn't justify. No.

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**>>**: 不能。

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**>>**: No.

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**>>**: 不能。但实际情况是，如果对方是个手更大的家伙，他就会把你的小手整个吞没。所以，是的，这——你知道吗，听起来你对自己的手有心结，而这让你的手感到难过了。

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**>>**: No. But what it is, if you got a guy with bigger hands, it's going to swallow your small hand. So yeah, it you know what it sounds like you have feelings about your hands and that's making your hands sad.

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**>>**: 所以是我让你对自己的握手感到自卑了。

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**>>**: So I'm making you insecure about your handshake.

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**>>**: 是的。所以，我自创了一套小锻炼方法，我拿一根扫帚把，像这样转动它。它的作用是增强手腕周围的肌肉部位。这样当——当你和我握手时，我能在你制服我之前先制服你。

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**>>**: Yeah. So, I developed a little workout where I grab a broomstick and I turn it like this. And what it does, it strengthens the areas around the wrist. So, when I when you give me a handshake and I can get you before you get me.

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**>>**: 我认为握手是对同胞表达善意的一种姿态。克里斯却认为这是一场拔枪决斗。一对一单挑。你必须在对方抓住之前先占据把位。

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**>>**: I think of a handshake as a gesture of goodwill toward my fellow man. Chris thinks of it as a quick draw contest. Mono ammono. You got to get to the grip before the other guy does.

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**>>**: 如果你没抓住把位，你就完蛋了。就像你想要展现出某种——我不知道你有没有见过特朗普总统跟人握手的方式。他是个大块头，但他会直接把你拉过来，就像他会把你拽过去一样。

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**>>**: If you don't get to the grip, you're screwed. Like you want to just show some type of like I don't know if you ever seen President Trump the way he shakes somebody's hand. He's a huge guy but he pulls you right in like he'll pull you in.

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**>>**: 真的吗？

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**>>**: Really?

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**>>**: 是的。

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**>>**: Yeah.

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**>>**: 当克里斯沿着侧楼梯擦拭扶手时，他又提到了好几次这件事。他的小手，他不正确的握手方式。擦黄铜给前臂带来的锻炼或许能改善他的握手。中央车站还有另一个擦铜工，阿尔文（Alvin）。很棒的人。前臂非常强壮。

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**>>**: Chris mentions this a few more times as he works on the handrail along a side staircase. His little hands his wrong handshake. How maybe the forearm workout he gets polishing the brass will improve the handshake. There's another guy who polishes at Grand Central, Alvin. Great guy. Big forearms.

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**>>**: 他的前臂特别大。

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**>>**: His forearms are huge.

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**>>**: 真的吗？

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**>>**: Really?

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**>>**: 他的握手——

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**>>**: His handshake

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**>>**: 很有力。

克里斯擦完扶手后，我们进行了练习。

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**>>**: solid. Once Chris is done with the handrail, we practice.

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**>>**: 嗨，我是莎拉（Sarah）。很高兴认识你。

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**>>**: Hi, I'm Sarah. Nice to meet you.

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**>>**: 对，但是——不，你是故意的。

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**>>**: Yeah, but No, you're doing that on purpose.

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**>>**: 你是故意做什么？

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**>>**: You're doing what on purpose?

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**>>**: 晃我。让我的身体晃动。不。现在。

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**>>**: Shake me. Let my body shake. No. Now.

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**>>**: 等等，什么？

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**>>**: Wait, what?

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**>>**: 再来一次。也许。噢。天哪。你最近怎么样？一切都好吗？

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**>>**: Do it again. Maybe. Oh. Oh my god. How you been? How's everything?

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**>>**: 好的，挺有力的。

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**>>**: Okay, it's firm.

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**>>**: 是的，我知道。我的握手很有力。有问题的是他的握手。

接着，他试图把两只手都放在我的手上。过于亲密了。

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**>>**: Yeah, I know. My handshake is firm. It's his handshake that's the problem. Next, he tries putting both his hands on my hand. Overly intimate.

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**>>**: 这太奇怪了。

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**>>**: That's weird.

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**>>**: 然后，

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**>>**: And then,

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**>>**: 不，但这太奇怪了。我们试了第三次。

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**>>**: no, but that's weird. We try a third time.

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**>>**: 好的。所以，如果你只是说：“嗨，我是莎拉。嘿，”

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**>>**: All right. So, if you're just like, "Hi, I'm Sarah. Hey,

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**>>**: 很高兴认识你。

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**>>**: nice to meet you."

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**>>**: 然后他使出了特朗普那一套，试图把我拉向他。

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**>>**: And he does the Trumpy thing of trying to pull me toward him.

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**>>**: 不，但你正常情况下不会那样做。

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**>>**: No, but you wouldn't do that normal.

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**>>**: 正常握一次。我是说正常地做。嗨。

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**>>**: Do a normal. I'm saying do it normal. Hi.

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**>>**: 是手指的问题。这就是奇怪的地方。

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**>>**: It's the finger. That's what's weird.

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**>>**: 好的。

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**>>**: Okay.

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**>>**: 我——这就对了。

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**>>**: I've There you go.

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**>>**: 他把食指顺着我的手腕内侧伸展，而不是把它收拢到握手里。是手指的问题。别那样做。

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**>>**: He's extending his index finger along the bottom of my wrist instead of tucking it into the shake. It's the finger. Don't do that.

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**>>**: 我总是在握手。伙计们，曼哈顿。

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**>>**: I'm always shaking. Guys, men hat.

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**>>**: 你握手时用了那根手指。是的。看，刺痛。不，别那么做。

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**>>**: You do that with your finger. Yeah. See, burn. No, don't do that.

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**>>**: 看好了。很高兴认识你。

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**>>**: Watch. Nice to meet you.

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**>>**: 你的手指在哪呢？

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**>>**: Where's your finger?

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**>>**: 哦，这样好多了。

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**>>**: Oh, that's better.

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**>>**: 握力很强。现在怎么样了？现在我找到感觉了。现在我——你知道的，我能向你展示，比如，嘿，我是当家人。我要雇佣你。我是老板。

也许你能对克里斯这种充满雄性激素的握手问题产生共鸣。也许你不能。但如果你不能，我保证此时此刻在中央车站一定有某个纽约客的烦恼是你能感同身受的。从数学上讲，这必然是真的。

这就是我最爱纽约的地方。这也是为什么我们要制作这档名为《Metro：关于纽约市的一切》（Metro: All About New York City）的新节目。

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**>>**: It's a strong grip. What happened now? Now I got the grip. And now I You know, I could show you like, hey, I'm I'm the man. I'm going to hire you. I'm boss. Maybe you relate to Chris's testosterone handshake problem. Maybe you don't. But if you don't, I guarantee there's some New Yorker in Grand Central right now whose worries you can relate to. Mathematically, that's got to be true. It's what I love most about New York. And it's why we're making this new show called Metro: All About New York City.

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### 酒吧里的纽约客：生活成本、治安与消失的白天饮酒客

**>>**: 纽约市庞大的体量意味着每一种人都在这里。每一种美国的怪诞，每一种美国的冲突，每一种忧虑。

比如，看看纽约人在酒吧里都在聊些什么。在布鲁克林贝德福德-斯图维森特（Bedstey）的 Tiptop 酒吧烧烤店，那位老店长正为生活成本发愁。

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**>>**: The sheer size of New York City means that every kind of person is here. every kind of American weirdness, every kind of American conflict, every concern. Check out the things New Yorkers talk about in bars, for instance. In Bedstey, Brooklyn at the Tiptop Bar and Grill, the longtime manager is worried about the cost of living.

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**>>**: 底线是，20年内，如果你不是有钱人，你就别想待在纽约了。

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**>>**: The bottom line is in 20 years, if you ain't rich, you ain't going to be in New York.

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**>>**: 嗯，没错。整个发展方向完全变了。

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**>>**: Well, that's right. It's going a whole other way.

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**>>**: 在上西区的一家爱尔兰酒吧里，人们担忧的是犯罪。那是我最大的心病。安全。

纽约的曼哈顿人。我们是靶子。每天你都会读到地铁上出事的新闻。有人被推下站台。有人遭到袭击，有人被划伤。如果她再推我一下，我就要揍她了。

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**>>**: At an Irish pub on the Upper West Side, the worry is crime. That's my big issue. Safety. New York Manhattanites. We're targets. Every day you read about something going wrong on the subway. Somebody getting pushed. Somebody getting attacked, somebody getting slashed. If she pushes me one more time, I'm going to punch her.

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**>>**: 他指的是一位正试图保持过道畅通的女服务员。

在下城西村的 Johnny's 酒吧，老板正担忧着周围这座城市的变化。他的顾客看起来更年轻，更具企业白领气质。他们聊高尔夫。甚至不到下午5点以后都没人进店。

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**>>**: He's talking about a waitress who's trying to keep the aisle clear. Downtown in the West Village at Johnny's Bar, the owner is worried about the city changing around him. His customers seem younger, corporate. They talk about golf. Nobody even comes in till after 5:00.

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**>>**: 白天的情况一直很诡异。

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**>>**: It's been weird in the daytime.

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**>>**: 空无一人。

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**>>**: Empty.

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**>>**: 他告诉我同事雅内尔·皮尔（Janelle Pyer），白天喝酒的人已经绝迹了。

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**>>**: He tells my colleague Janelle Pyer, the day drinkers have vanished.

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**>>**: 但那是一群正在消逝的人，你懂的。

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**>>**: But it's a dying breed, you know.

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**>>**: 白天喝酒变少了是一件坏事吗？呃，

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**>>**: Is that bad that day drinking is happening less? Um,

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**>>**: 他委婉地避开了雅内尔的问题。有些人只是感到孤独。他说：“你知道纽约能有多孤独。”

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**>>**: gently he sidesteps Janelle's question. Some people were just lonely. He says, "You know how lonely New York can be."

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**>>**: 是啊，雅内尔说，“现在，我希望我想要的性生活能比我现在想要的更多。”

在翠贝卡区的一个临时聚会上，人们在为自己拥有多少性生活而焦虑，

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**>>**: Yeah, Janelle says, "Right now, I would like to have more sex than I want." At an ad hoc meetup in Tribeca, people are worried about how much sex they're having,

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**>>**: 但事实上，我并没有真正觉得我想要那么多。所以现实中，我对目前所拥有的性生活频率很满意。然而，我对目前缺乏这种欲望感到不满意。

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**>>**: but in truth, I'm not really feeling like I want that much. And so in reality, I am content with the amount of sex that I'm having right now. However, I'm not content with the desire that I'm not having.

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**>>**: 或者我想他们是在担忧“自己没有在为拥有多少性生活而感到焦虑”。

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**>>**: Or I guess they're worried about not being worried about how much sex they're having.

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**>>**: 你希望能想要更多。

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**>>**: You want to want more.

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**>>**: 没错。

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**>>**: Exactly.

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**>>**: 是的。

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**>>**: Yes.

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### 十字路口：80年代的裂痕与如今的纽约新貌

**>>**: 我最近读了乔纳森·梅尔（Jonathan Mahler）的书《纽约之神》（The Gods of New York），书中讲述了80年代末的一系列危机如何融化了他所说的这座城市的“公民粘合剂”。在那个造就了斯派克·李（Spike Lee）、拉里·克莱默（Larry Kramer）、阿尔·夏普顿（Al Sharpton）、鲁迪·朱利安尼（Rudy Giuliani）和唐纳德·特朗普（Donald Trump）的时代，这座城市的共同认同感破裂了。引用他的话：“纽约的承诺一直以来就是美国的承诺。无论现实中是否总是如此，在愿景上，这里都是证明美国试验价值的地方，是一个任何人都能归属并获得成功的地方。

在短短一代人的时间里，你可以从廉租公寓的赤贫一跃成为公园大道的富豪。在80年代末之后，”梅尔写道，“那一版本的纽约枯萎了。”

引用：“一座曾经立志为其所有居民提供安全网和立足之地的城市，变成了那些胃口最大、嗓门最响亮、野心最膨胀的人的角斗场。”

为《纽约时报杂志》撰稿的梅尔认为，80年代末发生在纽约的事情，预示了整个国家更广泛的转型。纽约最先经历了一切。

我认为纽约再次站在了十字路口。感觉这里正在发生着什么。尼克斯队在时隔53年后赢得了NBA总冠军。

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**>>**: I recently read Jonathan Mer's book, The Gods of New York, about how a series of crises in the late 80s melted what he calls the city's civic glue. During the era that launched Spike Lee and Larry Kramer, Al Sharpton and Rudy Giuliani, Donald Trump, the city's common identity cracked apart. Quote, "The promise of New York had always been the promise of America. It was in aspiration, if not always in reality, the place that proved the value of the American experiment, a place where anyone belonged and could succeed. In the span of one generation, you could rise from tenement poor to Park Avenue rich. After the late ' 80s, Mer writes, that version of New York withered. quote, "A city that had once aspired to provide a safety net and foothold to all of its residents, became a gladatorial arena for those with the biggest appetites, the loudest voices, and the most outsized ambitions." Mer, who writes for the New York Times magazine, argues that what happened to New York in the late '80s foreshadowed the transformation of the broader nation. New York saw it all first. I'd argue that New York is again at a crossroads. It feels like something is happening here. The Knicks won the NBA championship after 53 years.

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**>>**: 谋杀和枪击案件数量处于有记录以来的历史最低水平。这个曾为你带来垃圾债券和唐纳德·特朗普的城市，现在选出了一位社会主义市长，我们自己的——

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**>>**: Murders and shootings are at their lowest numbers in recorded history. The town that brought you junk bonds and Donald Trump has now elected a socialist mayor, our very own

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**>>**: 他想让公交车免费，让住房更便宜。他竞选的口号是“可负担性”（affordability），这个词一在纽约落地，就在全国政治舞台上如弹球般迅速传播开来。

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**>>**: who wants to make buses free and housing cheaper. The watch word of his campaign was affordability, a term that pinballed across national politics once it landed in New York.

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**>>**: 在未来十年里，市政府将建造20万套新的可负担且租金稳定的住房。

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**>>**: Over the next decade, city government will build 200,000 new affordable rent stable.

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**>>**: 你是这位市长的粉丝吗？

我不讨厌他。

新市长能否成功，纽约能否再次成为普通人凭普通薪水过上普通生活的地方，这究竟是这座城市的真正十字路口，还是又一次空谈，我不知道。在这方面我毫无专业知识。我只是一个凭感觉行事的第二代纽约人。

但我所拥有的是，与那些专家近在咫尺的诱人距离。《纽约时报》负责报道纽约市的记者们，即大都会报道部（Metro Desk）。

《Serial》也是《纽约时报》的一部分。我们在时代广场那座庞大的纽约时报大楼里办公。所以我们想，我们这些做音频的人就坐在这边，那些大都会部门的记者就坐在那边，我们应该联手做一档关于纽约，或者确切地说，关于纽约人的节目。几个月来，我们一直泡在大都会报道部，跟着大都会记者一起去跑新闻，在他们打电话采访、挨家挨户敲门时一路随行。他们带我们走进了所有这些不同的世界。

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**>>**: Are you a fan of the mayor? I don't hate him. Whether the new mayor will succeed, whether New York can ever again become a place where a normal person can live a normal life on a normal salary, whether this really is a crossroads for the city or more just talking, I don't know. I got no expertise here. I'm just a second generation New Yorker with a feeling. But what I do have is tantalizing proximity to people who are experts. The reporters who cover New York City for the New York Times, the Metro Desk. Serial's part of the Times. We work out of the huge New York Times building in Times Square. And so we thought us audio people are sitting right here. Those metro reporters are sitting right over there. We should team up and make a show about New York or really about New Yorkers. For months now, we've been hanging around the Metro desk and going out on stories with Metro reporters, tagging along while they cold called and door knocked. They brought us into all these different worlds.

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### 跟随《纽约时报》大都会记者扫街现场

**>>**: 嗨，打扰了。我叫简（Jan），是《纽约时报》的记者。我在找拉明（Lamine）。

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**>>**: Hi, sorry to bother you. My name is Jan and I'm a reporter with the New York Times. I was looking for Lame.

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**>>**: 简·兰森（Jan Ransom）当时正在撰写关于杰弗里·爱泼斯坦（Jeffrey Epstein）在纽约大都会惩教中心（MCC）内死亡的决定性报道。

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**>>**: Jan Ransom was working on the definitive story of Jeffrey Epstein's death inside the Metropolitan Correctional Center, MCC.

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**>>**: 好的。我只是想确认一下我没找错拉明。他是大都会惩教中心的前典狱长。

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**>>**: Okay. And I just want to make sure I have the right Lamine. He was the former warden at MCC.

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**>>**: 是的。

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**>>**: Yeah.

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**>>**: 拉明不在家。门口的那位女士不想显得无礼，但屋里有狗在抓门，如果她开门，狗就会扑向简。

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**>>**: Lame's not home. The woman at the door doesn't want to be rude, but there are dogs inside pawing at the door who will be all over Jan if she opens up.

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**>>**: 噢天哪，我可不想那样。我就把它——嗯，我不想让它被风吹走，所以我把它塞在地垫下面。

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**>>**: Oh Lord, I don't want that. I'm just going to Well, I don't want it to blow away, so I'm just going to put it under the mat.

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**>>**: 呃，她给前典狱长留了一张便条和名片。也许他会打电话来。

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**>>**: Um, she leaves a note and her business card for the former warden. Maybe he'll call.

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**>>**: 嗨，神父先生。呃，

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**>>**: Hi, Father Man. Uh,

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**>>**: 记者妮可·洪（Nicole Hong）正在皇后区与一位天主教神父通电话。

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**>>**: reporter Nicole Hong is on the phone with a Catholic priest in Queens.

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**>>**: 我现在和我的同事就在你门外。我们只是——

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**>>**: I'm here with my colleague outside your door right now. We're just

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**>>**: 这位神父是唐纳德·特朗普的朋友。据传他曾帮助一名被判重大欺诈罪的私募股权高管获得了宽大处理。

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**>>**: The priest is a friend of Donald Trump's. He's rumored to have helped secure clemency for a private equity executive convicted of major fraud.

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**>>**: 请离开。

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**>>**: Please leave.

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**>>**: 好吧，我只是想——

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**>>**: Well, I just want

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**>>**: 我不感兴趣。

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**>>**: I'm not interested.

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**>>**: 好的，我明白。我只是……呃，想让您知道一下。

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**>>**: Yeah, I understand. I just um want to let you know.

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**>>**: 好的。

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**>>**: Okay.

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**>>**: 嗯，来自《纽约时报》，很高兴认识你。

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**>>**: Well, from the New York Times, Nice to meet you.

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**>>**: 在一家艺术画廊里，迪翁·瑟西（Dionne Searcey）正在一场由时尚杂志举办的活动上与人社交应酬。

呃，所以我是写关于纽约的财富和权力的，所以我就是来参加活动，看看这里都有谁，看看大家在聊些什么。真的吗？

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**>>**: At an art gallery, Dion Cers smoozing at an event put on by a fashion magazine. Um, so I write about wealth and power in New York and so I just kind of come into the event just to see who's here and see what people are talking about. Really?

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**>>**: 我刚在罗德岛的纽波特买了一栋大房子。

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**>>**: I just bought a huge house in Newport, Rhode Island.

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**>>**: 你买了？

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**>>**: You did?

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**>>**: 是的。

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**>>**: Yeah.

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**>>**: 噢，听起来真不错，迪翁说。

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**>>**: Oh, that sounds really nice, says Dion.

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**>>**: 那太棒了。

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**>>**: That's great.

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**>>**: 但我有很多很棒的房子。我在大巴灵顿还有一座城堡，粉彩画——

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**>>**: But I have a lot of great houses. I have a castle in Great Bearing Pastel

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**>>**: 由斯坦福·怀特（Stanford White）设计。

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**>>**: by Stanford White.

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**>>**: 哇，太不可思议了。那么，你在城堡里做些什么？

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**>>**: Wow, that's incredible. Well, what do you do in the castle?

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**>>**: 1980年。

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**>>**: 1980.

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**>>**: 搞装修，住着，享受它，在城镇中心占地80英亩。

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**>>**: Decorate, live, enjoy it as 80 acres in the middle of town.

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**>>**: 在那里搞艺术创作一定很惬意。

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**>>**: That must be nice for creating art there.

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**>>**: 关于犯罪、政治、腐败、极度财富的国家重大新闻。在纽约市，这些报道往往恰好也就是本地新闻、大都会新闻。而在其他时候，大都会报道真的就只是非常本土化的故事，带着它特有的纽约味道。

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**>>**: Big national stories about crime, politics, corruption, extreme wealth. In New York City, those stories often happen to be local stories, metro stories. Other times, a Metro story really is just local with its own specific New York smell.

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**>>**: 正在找一家叫“超级水管工”（Super Plumbers）的公司。

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**>>**: Looking for a company called Super Plumbers.

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**>>**: 超级水管工。

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**>>**: Super plumber.

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**>>**: 对。

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**>>**: Yeah.

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**>>**: 嗯。米希尔·扎维里（Mihir Zaveri）正投入大量时间跑遍全城。

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**>>**: Mhm. Zi is logging serious hours trapesing all over the city.

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**>>**: 寻找一位神秘的水管工，他为公共住房系统工作的加班时长达到了真正令人瞠目结舌的数字。而且——

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**>>**: Looking for a mysterious plumber who has worked a truly mind-boggling number of overtime hours for the public housing system. And

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**>>**: 而且米希尔对此紧追不舍。这位水管工去年报了2500多个小时的加班，比其他任何市政雇员都多。那相当于每天额外工作大约7个小时。这家伙赚了大钱。这到底是怎么回事？也许米希尔马上就要查清楚了。

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**>>**: and Mihir cannot let it go. This one plumber put in for more than 2,500 hours of overtime last year, more than any other city employee. That's something like seven extra hours every single day. Guy's making a mint. What is going on? Maybe Mir's just about to find out.

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**>>**: 这就是我一直在等待的时刻，我不知道，好像在这里等了好几个月了。

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**>>**: This is the moment I've been waiting for for I don't know, like few months here.

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**>>**: 我也是。眼下的这一切正是我的梦想报道领域。利用这座非凡的城市来讲述各种各样的人的故事，讲述他们此刻正在经历的事情。每隔一周，我都会在这里带来采访、调查和随笔。我们将走遍全城，让最了解这座城市的人为我们引路，让我们所有人都能感同身受得像个本地人。

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**>>**: Me, too. This right here is my dream beat. use this extraordinary city to tell stories about all sorts of people and what they're going through right now. Every other week, I'll be here with interviews, investigations, essays. We're going to go all over town and get the people who know the city best to show us the ropes so we all feel like locals.

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### 最终的握手练习与节目收尾

**>>**: 回到中央车站，克里斯·桑塔纳结束了一天的工作。他擦亮了一个华丽的黄铜信箱，中央问讯处内部的一个黄铜面板，还有那长长的扶手。他收拾好东西，我们走到中央大厅这边。

就上楼，稍微冲洗一下。

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**>>**: Back at Grand Central, Chris Santana is done for the day. He's polished an ornate brass letter box, a brass panel inside the central information booth, the long handrail. He gathers his stuff and we walk to the main concourse here. Just go upstairs, wash off a bit.

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**>>**: 摄影师胡安·阿雷东多（Juan Arredondo）也在那儿。胡安和克里斯道别。

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**>>**: Photographer Juan Arerodondo is there, too. Juan and Chris say goodbye.

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**>>**: 好的，伙计。看，就像——

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**>>**: Okay, man. See like

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**>>**: 他们进行了一次即兴的告别握手，但进展得并不顺利。

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**>>**: they had a spontaneous farewell shake and it didn't go well.

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**>>**: 不过他把我制住了。

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**>>**: He got me, though.

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**>>**: 克里斯坚称是他当时没准备好。我们最后又试了一次。

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**>>**: Chris claims he was unprepared. We tried one last time.

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**>>**: 很好。

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**>>**: That's good.

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**>>**: 搞定。

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**>>**: Bingo.

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**>>**: 挺好的。我觉得对我来说挺好的。

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**>>**: That's good. I think that's good for me.

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**>>**: 我觉得你不用害羞，可以更有力一些。

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**>>**: I don't think you have to be shy to do it stronger.

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**>>**: 我觉得你在担心你会被像——

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**>>**: I think you're worried about you're going to like

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**>>**: 不，别拉拽。不，

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**>>**: No, no pulling. No,

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**>>**: 别搞伸手指那一套。

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**>>**: don't do the finger thing.

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**>>**: 是啊，那太怪了。不，

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**>>**: Yeah, that's weird. No,

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**>>**: 我觉得你的握手真的很好。

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**>>**: I think you have a really good handshake.

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**>>**: 噢，谢谢你。

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**>>**: Oh, thank you.

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**>>**: 我觉得你很棒。

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**>>**: I think you're good.

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**>>**: 噢天哪。

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**>>**: Oh boy.

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**>>**: 没有多余的手指，也不拉扯。不，那是糟糕的对话交流。不，

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**>>**: No fingers and no pulling. No, that's bad conversation. No,

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**>>**: 我发誓这首突然响起的音乐跟我一点关系都没有。这是在大厅那头摆摊的爵士乐手带来的一份纯天然礼物。

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**>>**: I swear I have nothing to do with this song starting. It was an allnatural gift from the jazz man who'd set up down the concourse.

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**>>**: 那么，开始吧。让我们握手达成一致。手伸过来。我是来自 Serial Productions 和《纽约时报》的老大。我是莎拉·柯尼希（Sarah Koenig），这是我们的新节目《Metro》。

第二集现已上线。您可以立即点击收听，或者稍后在您获取播客的任何平台上收听。本集《Metro》，也是第一集，由雅内尔·皮尔（Janelle Piert）制作，朱莉·斯奈德（Julie Snyder）编辑。尼基塔·斯图尔特（Nikita Stewart）是《纽约时报》大都会报道部的主编。我只想向她致以诚挚的敬意。本节目之所以能够问世，很大程度上多亏了她。

本周特别鸣谢大都会部门协助我们制作这一集的所有人，包括那些你没听到名字，但允许我们在采访报道中一路随行的记者们。克里斯蒂娜·卡隆（Christina Caron）报道了关于性的讨论。安娜·凯（Anna Kay）撰写了关于潜水酒吧的报道。玛雅·金（Maya King）报道了黑人拥有企业的故事。艾玛·戈德堡（Emma Goldberg）报道了一场激烈的国会初选。

特别鸣谢记者马克·博纳莫（Mark Bonamo）、陈思凡（Stephanos Chen）、玛丽亚·克莱默（Maria Cramer）、艾玛·菲茨西蒙斯（Emma Fitzsimmons）、安德鲁·凯（Andrew Keh）、胡维妮（Winnie Hu）、本杰明·韦泽（Benjamin Weiser）、达娜·鲁宾斯坦（Dana Rubinstein）、切尔西·罗斯·马库斯（Chelsea Rose Marcius）、多迪·斯图尔特（Dodai Stewart）、迈克尔·威尔逊（Michael Wilson）和伊芙·埃德尔海特（Eve Edelheit）。感谢费尔曼（Feldman）、亚历克斯·布隆伯格（Alex Blumberg）和艾拉·格拉斯（Ira Glass）。

《Metro》由 Serial Productions 与《纽约时报》联合制作。

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**>>**: So, here we go. Let's shake on it. Put her there. I'm boss from Serial Productions and the New York Times. This is Sarah Kanig and our new show, Metro. Episode 2 is out now. You can hit play right away or listen to it later wherever you get your podcasts. This episode of Metro, the very first episode was produced by Janelle Pyer and edited by Julie Snyder. Nikita Stewart is editor of the New York Times Metro. And I just want to give her a quick bow. She's a big reason this show exists at all. Special thanks this week to everyone on the Metro who helped us put this episode together, including the reporters whose names you didn't hear, but who let us tag along on their reporting. Christina Corron covered the sex debate. Anna Kay wrote about dive bars. Maya King did a story on blackowned businesses. And Emma Goldberg covered a heated congressional primary. Special thanks also to reporters Mark Bonamo, Stephanos Chen, Maria Kramer, Emma Fitz Simmons, Andrew Kay, Winnie Hu, Benjamin Arescus, Dana Rubenstein, Chelsea Rose Marcus, Dodi Stewart, Michael Wilson, and Eve Edelheight. And to Felman, Alex Bloomberg, and Ira Glass. Metro is a production of Serial Productions and the New York Times.

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