美国封锁荷尔木兹海峡,欧洲MAGA支持者竞选落败 New York Times Podcasts 2026-04-13

伊朗核谈判破裂与美国海军封锁

主播 Tracy Mumford: 来自《纽约时报》,这是今日新闻速览。我是 Tracy Mumford。今天是星期一,4月13日。以下是我们今天要报道的内容。

Original English

Host Tracy Mumford: From the New York Times, it's the headlines. I'm Tracy Mumford. Today's Monday, April 13th. Here's what we're covering.

副总统 JD Vance: 坏消息是我们没有达成协议。我认为这对伊朗来说是坏消息,远比对美利坚合众国来说是坏消息。

Original English

Vice President JD Vance: The bad news is that we have not reached an agreement. And I think that's bad news for Iran much more than it's bad news for the United States of America.

记者报道: 在巴基斯坦进行了近一整天的闭门谈判后,副总统 JD Vance 周末出现宣布与伊朗达成和平协议的努力已经失败。他指责伊朗拒绝了美国的要求——伊朗不应试图发展核武器。

Original English

Reporter: After almost a full day of closed-door negotiations this weekend in Pakistan, Vice President JD Vance emerged to announce that efforts to reach a peace deal with Iran had failed. He blamed Iran, saying they'd rejected the US demand that they not try to develop a nuclear weapon.

副总统 JD Vance: 我们就是无法达到伊朗人愿意接受我们条件的局面。我认为我们相当灵活。我们非常...

Original English

Vice President JD Vance: We just could not get to a situation where the Iranians were willing to accept our terms. I think that we were quite flexible. We were quite...

总统 Donald Trump: 不管怎样,早在谈判进行中。无论如何,我们赢了。无论发生什么,我们赢了。

Original English

President Donald Trump: Regardless, even as the talks were ongoing. Regardless what happens, we win.

记者报道: 特朗普总统坚持无论是否达成协议都无关紧要。而当 Vance 宣布谈判失败时,Trump 正在迈阿密的一场 UFC 格斗赛上,观看血腥的笼斗,身旁是他的一些家族成员、Joe Rogan 和国务卿 Marco Rubio。那是周六晚上。到了周日,Trump 宣布美国海军将开始封锁荷尔木兹海峡。这是该关键水道的最新令人眼花缭乱的发展。当战争开始时,伊朗在很大程度上切断了该海峡作为筹码,虽然根据目前的临时停火协议,它本应重新开放。现在美国正在切断运输,以此来堵截通过的有限伊朗石油和天然气。五角大楼表示,这项封锁将从今早开始,对来自或前往伊朗港口的任何船只生效。伊朗官员明确表示,他们清楚这可能会进一步推高全球燃料价格,伊朗的顶级谈判代表似乎在网上嘲弄美国,发布了"享受当前的油价吧,很快你就会怀念四到五美元一加仑的汽油"这样的言论。

Original English

Reporter: President Trump had insisted it didn't matter if there was a deal or not. And by the time Vance was announcing that the negotiations had collapsed, Trump was at a UFC fight in Miami, watching the bloody cage matches alongside a bunch of his family members, Joe Rogan and Secretary of State Marco Rubio. That was Saturday night. On Sunday, Trump announced that the US Navy will start blockading the Strait of Hormuz. It's the latest head spinning development for the crucial waterway. Iran largely cut off the strait as leverage when the war started, though it was supposed to reopen under the current temporary ceasefire. Now, the US is cutting off traffic as a way to choke off the limited amount of Iranian oil and gas that was getting through. The Pentagon says the blockade will begin this morning on any ships coming or going from Iranian ports. Iranian officials have made clear they know this could drive up global fuel prices even more and Iran's top negotiators seem to taunt the US online posting quote enjoy the current pump figures soon you'll be nostalgic for four to five dollar gas.

记者报道: 同时,伊朗非常希望伊朗战争的任何停火都与停止以色列对真主党的打击相结合,真主党是伊朗的关键代理军队。我的同事在今天的《每日新闻》中解释了以色列在战争中的动机如何正在复杂化结束冲突的努力。以色列不希望真主党成为任何谈判停火的一部分,并希望继续这部分战争,原因是他们自己的。

Original English

Reporter: Meanwhile Iran very much wants any cessation of the war in Iran to be coupled with an ending of Israeli strikes against Hezbollah which is a critical proxy army for Iran. My colleagues on the daily today explain how Israel's motivations for the war are complicating efforts to end it. Israel doesn't want Hezbollah to be part of any negotiated ceasefire and wants to keep that part of the war going for its own reasons.

匈牙利大选:欧洲MAGA支持者竞选失败

记者报道: 在昨天匈牙利的选举中,欧洲最杰出的右翼民粹主义者 Victor Orban 承认了落选。这是对特朗普政府的重大打击,因为 Orban 曾是某种 MAGA 的标志,也是对克里姆林宫的打击,两者都支持他的竞选。创纪录数量的匈牙利人前往投票。注册选民中几乎 80%。当结果出来时,主要是年轻人的人群冲到街上庆祝。Orban 已经执政 16 年,他消除了政府中的许多制衡机制,控制了法院,并掌控了大多数新闻媒体。他现在有望被 Peter Magyar 取代,一位保守派政治家,他分享了 Orban 的一些政治观点,包括警告所谓"觉醒"意识形态的危险。但 Magyar 通过承诺在 Orban 的家人和朋友自我充实多年后结束该国的广泛腐败,在一定程度上赢得了选民。Magyar 也预计对欧盟的敌意较少,对俄罗斯的友好也较少。Orban 的政府长期以来被视为安全风险,因为他的政府成员据称与克里姆林宫共享欧盟会议的信息。Orban 的政党还曾阻止了一笔 100 亿美元的欧盟贷款来帮助乌克兰。该贷款现在预计将获得批准。

Original English

Reporter: In elections in Hungary yesterday, Victor Orban, Europe's most prominent right-wing populist, conceded the race. It's a major blow to the Trump administration as Orban had been something of a MAGA icon and to the Kremlin, both of which backed his campaign. A record-breaking number of Hungarians went to the polls. Almost 80% of registered voters there. And as the results came in, crowds of mostly young people rushed into the streets to celebrate. Orban has been in power for 16 years, and he's eliminated many checks and balances in the government, stacked the courts, and taken control of most news media outlets. He's now expected to be replaced by Peter Magyar, a conservative politician who shares some of Orban's politics, including warning about the dangers of so-called woke ideology. But Magyar managed to win over voters in part by promising to end widespread corruption in the country after years of Orban's family and friends enriching themselves. Magyar is also expected to be less hostile towards the EU and less friendly to Russia. Orban's administration had long been viewed as a security risk because members of his government reportedly shared information from EU meetings with the Kremlin. Orban's party had also held up a $100 billion EU loan to help Ukraine. That loan is now expected to be approved.

变性军人驱逐政策的实际影响

记者报道: 一年多前,特朗普政府宣布他们将把所有变性军人赶出军队。他们说这是必要的举措,以保持军队效率并省钱。但根据我的报道,一年后,似乎恰恰相反已经发生了。

Original English

Reporter: A little over a year ago, the Trump administration announced that they were going to force all transgender service members out of the military. It was a move that they said was needed to keep the military efficient and to save money. But what I found in my reporting is that a year later, it seems like the opposite has happened.

Pentagon 记者 Dave Phillips: 军队进入这项新政策时没有计划如何执行。因此,我的报道显示,各种高度熟练的人在军队中,比如医生、律师、飞行员,政府大量投资支付其非常昂贵的教育的人,已经被迅速解雇,没有明显的替代品。即使他们不再从事这些工作,他们仍在名单上。他们中的许多人,实际上,大多数人,在付费行政假期中度过了数月,领取薪水,但无法做他们的工作。我采访了一位名叫 Parker Moore 的海军中士,海军花费多年训练他成为航空母舰上的核裂变技术员。从本质上讲,他们的工作是监督整个团队,使航空母舰的心脏运转。但一旦宣布了规则,他们很快就被告知要休假。现在该航空母舰的司令官说"不,我们需要你"。但海军还是让他们休假。那艘航母亚伯拉罕·林肯号没有 Moore 中士就离开了,现在在中东没有一位真正关键的核反应堆监督员。

Original English

Pentagon Reporter Dave Phillips: The military went into this new policy with no plan of how to carry it out. And so my reporting showed that all sorts of highly skilled people in the military, people like doctors, lawyers, pilots, people that the government invested heavily in paying for their very expensive education have been quickly dismissed without an obvious replacement. And even though they're not in their jobs anymore, they're still on the books. Many of them, actually, most of them, spent months and months on paid administrative leave, collecting a paycheck, but unable to do their jobs. I spoke to one Navy chief named Parker Moore, who the Navy had spent years training to be a nuclear fission technician on an aircraft carrier. Essentially, their job was to oversee a whole team of people that made the heart of an aircraft carrier run. But very quickly once the rules were announced, they were told to be put on leave. Now the admiral in charge of this aircraft carrier said, "No, we need you." But the Navy put them on leave anyway. And that carrier, the Abraham Lincoln, left without Chief Moore and is now in the Middle East without a really critical nuclear reactor supervisor.

Pentagon 记者 Dave Phillips: 总的来说,我在报道这个故事时采访了十多个人,他们说这是对人才的浪费、对培训经费的浪费、对多年经验的浪费,但成本也远不止金钱,对吧?这些人想为他们的国家服务,现在他们被迫离开,这让他们感到不仅他们让战友失望,而且他们献身于的政府也在背叛他们。

Original English

Pentagon Reporter Dave Phillips: In all, I talked to more than a dozen people while reporting this story and they said that yeah, this is a waste of talent, a waste of training dollars, a waste of years of experience, but also the cost goes much deeper than just money, right? These are people that wanted to serve their country and now they're being forced to leave, which makes them feel like not only they're letting their comrades down, but that the government that they committed themselves to is betraying them.

议员性骚扰指控与政治风波

记者报道: 昨晚,民主党议员 Eric Swallwell 在社交媒体上宣布,他正在暂停他对加州州长的竞选,原因是性骚扰和行为不端的指控。

Original English

Reporter: In a social media post last night, Democratic Representative Eric Swallwell announced that he is suspending his campaign for California governor in the wake of allegations of sexual assault and misconduct.

指控者声音: 我一直在想办法责备自己。我根本不应该联系他。我应该离开。我应该...算了,Eric 不应该强奸我。

Original English

Accuser: I kept figuring out ways to blame myself. I shouldn't have reached out to him at all. I should have left. I should have done this. Well, Eric shouldn't have raped me.

记者报道: 最近几天,CNN 和《旧金山纪事报》都发表了严厉的采访。在其中一次,一位前工作人员说 Swallwell 在一家纽约市酒店中对她进行了性侵犯,当时她处于醉酒状态。其他人说他发送了未经请求的裸露图像。《纽约时报》尚未独立证实这些指控。报道发出后,曼哈顿检察长办公室的代表表示调查人员将开始调查针对 Swallwell 的性侵犯指控。随后出现了公众谴责浪潮,他的 50 多名前工作人员呼吁他结束他的竞选并从国会辞职。在一封公开信中,他们写道:"司法不是可选的。问责是不可协商的。"同时,众议院的民主党领导人尚未要求他从该职位辞职。Swallwell 否认了性侵犯指控。

Original English

Reporter: In recent days, both CNN and the San Francisco Chronicle had published damning interviews. In one, a former staffer said Swallwell had sexually assaulted her in a New York City hotel when she was intoxicated. Others said he'd sent unsolicited nude images. The Times has not independently confirmed the allegations. Following the reports, representatives for the Manhattan DA's office said investigators would begin looking into the assault claim against Swallwell. And there was a wave of public condemnation as more than 50 of his former staff members called on him to end his campaign and resign from Congress. In an open letter, they wrote, quote, "Justice is not optional. Accountability is not negotiable." Democratic leaders in the House, meanwhile, have not called on him to step down from his post there. And Swallwell has denied the assault allegations.

议员 Eric Swallwell: 我以任何方式都不建议你认为我是完美的或圣人。我在过去确实在判断上犯过错误。

Original English

Representative Eric Swallwell: I do not suggest to you in any way that I'm perfect or that I'm a saint. I have certainly made mistakes in judgment in my past.

记者报道: 不过他确实发布了一份视频声明,向他的妻子道歉。根据 CNN 的报道,在她生下他们的第三个孩子几个月内,Swallwell 据称在给另一名女性发短信,内容如"我什么时候能见到你?"至少有一位美国众议院议员已经承诺提出一项动议将 Swallwell 驱逐出众议院。

Original English

Reporter: He did release a video statement, though apologizing to his wife. According to the CNN report, within a few months of her giving birth to their third child, Swallwell was allegedly texting another woman with messages like, "When am I going to see you?" At least one US representative has promised to bring a motion to expel Swallwell from the House.

圣昆汀监狱棒球项目的改革力量

记者报道: 最后,

Original English

Reporter: And finally,

记者叙述: 当我去看这些比赛时,我不得不通过安保,被护送下到球场,这就在监狱围墙的中间。我一生都在打棒球,但我从来没有看过它以这种方式进行过。

Original English

Reporter Narration: When I've gone to see these games, I've had to pass through security and be escorted down to the field, which is right in the middle of the prison yard. I've been playing baseball all my life, but I'd never seen it played quite like this.

记者 Eli Tan: 我的同事 Eli Tan 一直在报道圣昆汀监狱的棒球队——加州圣昆汀监狱的棒球队。有些人曾在大学或职业球队中打过球,而其他人自小学以来就没有拿过球棒。这些比赛在娱乐时间进行。所以,有数百名男性在垒球外举重、理发。队员们告诉我,这是他们在圣昆汀生活中最重要的事情之一,它给了他们一种怀旧的感觉,让他们想起了他们最后一次自由人的时光。Eli 说这项棒球项目花费多年时间建立,之所以值得注意,是因为囚犯对抗轮流出现的外部球队,比如涉足社区的球队,他们来到圣昆汀参加比赛。监狱长告诉 Eli,这项计划对囚犯的改造和康复与强制性治疗课程等措施一样有帮助。自从 Eli 去年秋天首次报道圣昆汀巨人队以来,他说他听到了来自全国各地想要帮助和寄送设备的人的声音。他还听到了一位加州州议员的声音,他现在正在推动一项法案,以扩大全州监狱的体育项目。下个月,Eli 将回到圣昆汀,不是作为记者,而是作为一名球员。他自己的男子球队将与巨人队对抗。

Original English

Reporter Eli Tan: My colleague, Eli Tan, has been covering the San Quentin Giants, the baseball team at California's San Quentin prison. Some of the guys have played either in college or professionally, while others haven't picked up a bat since little league. The games are played during the recreation time. So, there are hundreds of men lifting weights, giving haircuts right outside the dugout. The players tell me that it's one of the most important things that they have in their life in San Quentin, and that it gives them a feeling of nostalgia that reminds them of the last time that they were free men. Eli says the baseball program, which took years to build, is notable because the inmates play against a rotating roster of outside teams like rec leagues who come into San Quentin for the games. And the prison warden told Eli the program has proved to be just as helpful for the inmates rehabilitation as things like state-mandated therapy sessions. Since Eli first reported on the Giants back in the fall, he said he's heard from people all over the country who've wanted to help out and send equipment. He also heard from a California state legislator who is now pushing a bill to expand sports programming at prisons across the state. Next month, Eli is going back to San Quentin, not as a reporter, but as a player. His own men's team is going to play against the Giants.

主播 Tracy Mumford: 这些就是头条新闻。我是 Tracy Mumford。我们明天再见。

Original English

Host Tracy Mumford: Those are the headlines. I'm Tracy Mumford. We'll be back tomorrow.

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