H-1B签证政策:一次无偏见的分析
我将明确指出本视频并非对美国政府的批评,也不是对H-1B头条新闻的情绪化反应。
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I will tell you what this video isn't. It is not a critique of the US administration. It is not an emotionally charged reaction to the H1B headlines.
我将尽我所能进行一次公正的分析,不偏向右翼,也不偏向左翼。
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I'm going to do an unbiased take to the best of my abilities. Not right-leaning, not left-leaning.
H-1B签证发生的事情是最近的一条新闻,它已经发生了,我们必须应对。
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What happened to H1B is a piece of recent news. It happened. We got to deal with it.
我首先要说的是,对最近新闻的反应与经济现实无关,而与美国的政治紧张局势息息相关。
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I will start by saying that the reaction to the recent news has nothing to do with the economic reality and everything to do with political tensions in the US.
H-1B项目多年来一直被滥用和误用。
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H1B program has been abused and misused for years.
最重要的是,科技行业的劳动力模式已经转型。
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And most importantly, the tech industry's labor model has already been transformed.
因此,尽管10万美元的费用感觉像是一个冲击,但实际上,这一变化在一个已经向前发展的系统中,适应得相当好。
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So, while the $100,000 fee feels like a shock, in reality, this change lands quite well in a system that has already moved on.
让我们深入探讨。
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Let's dive in.
H-1B新政概览
让我们先快速总结一下发生了什么,以防你错过了这条新闻,尽管我对此深表怀疑,但还是提一下。
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Let's start with a quick summary of what happened. Just in case you missed the news, which I highly doubt, but still.
2025年9月19日,特朗普总统签署了一项行政命令,对已有35年历史的H-1B签证(Specialty Occupations Visa: 美国为引进高技能外国专业人才设立的非移民工作签证)项目进行了根本性改革。
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On September 19th, 2025, President Trump signed an executive order that introduced fundamental changes to the 35-year-old visa program named H1B.
该命令对所有新的H-1B签证申请征收10万美元的费用。
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The order imposed a $100,000 fee for all new H1B visa applications.
此前,公司为每份H-1B申请支付的费用在5000到1万美元之间。
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The previous fees that companies had to pay for every H-1B applications were between5 and $10,000.
这项政策于2025年9月21日东部时间凌晨12:01生效,在硅谷引起了轩然大波,并立即在科技公司和外国工人中造成混乱。
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The policy took effect at 12:01 a.m. Eastern time on September 21st, 2025. It sent shock waves through Silicon Valley and caused immediate chaos among tech companies and foreign workers.
本视频拍摄于2025年9月28日,以下是目前已确认的信息。
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This video is being filmed on September 28th, 2025. And here is what is confirmed so far.
这项改变适用于2025年9月21日之后提交的所有针对美国境外工人的新申请。
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The change applies to all new petitions filed after September 21st, 2025 for all workers outside of the United States.
它不适用于目前在美国境内的H-1B持有者。
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This does not apply to current H-1B holders in the United States.
如果一家公司为美国境外的某人提交H-1B申请,无论是非营利组织或大学的常规抽签H-1B,他们都必须支付这笔费用。
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If a company files an H-1B for someone who is outside of the United States, they must pay the fee, whether it's a regular lottery H-1B or one for universities or nonprofits.
这里的决定性因素是地点,无论你是在美国境内还是境外。
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The determining factor here is the location, whether you're inside or outside the US.
这是一次性费用,而非年度订阅。
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It is a onetime fee, not a yearly subscription.
它对即将到来的H-1B抽签有直接影响。
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and it has an immediate impact on upcoming H-1B lottery.
2027年度配额的下一个H-1B申请季将直接受到影响。
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The next H-1B filing season for the 2027 quota will be directly affected.
在该抽签中为美国境外个人提交的任何H-1B申请都将需要支付10万美元。
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Any H1B petition filed in that lottery for an individual outside of the US will require a $100,000 payment.
计划参与抽签的雇主应相应地做好预算。
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Employers planning for the lottery should budget accordingly.
H-1B注册量下降的深层原因
现在,我邀请你研究并批判性地分析与这一变化相关的数据。
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And now I would like to invite you to study and critically analyze the data associated with this change.
我认为,这一事件之所以如此令人震惊,表明人们对科技行业劳动力模式已经发生的变化存在巨大的误解。
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I think the fact that this became such a shock is a sign of a monumental misunderstanding about how the tech industry's labor model has already changed.
在我个人看来,这笔费用对美国科技行业的现状改变甚微。
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In my personal opinion, this fee changes very little in the current state of the tech industry in the US.
科技行业近年来已经发生了翻天覆地的变化,并受到多重宏观事件的影响。
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The tech industry has already flipped upside down in the recent years and there are multiple macro events that affected it.
顺便说一句,人工智能甚至不在这些事件的前五名之列。
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And for the record, AI is not even in the top five of those events.
但这就像人们没有注意到或没有消化这些变化一样。
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But it's like people haven't noticed or haven't processed.
所以,我将解释为什么这实际上并不那么令人震惊。
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So, I'm going to break down why it's actually not that shocking.
在过去的三年里,H-1B签证的注册量下降了50%。
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Over the past 3 years, there has been a 50% decline in the registrations received for H1B.
我说三年,指的是2024年至2026年,因为2026年的注册申请在2025年3月这项新政生效之前就已经提交了。
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When I say 3 years, I'm referring to year 2024 to 2026 because the registrations for 2026 have already been submitted and this was done way before this change came into effect in March 2025.
因此,这50%的下降完全是由于既有因素造成的。
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So this 50% decline is entirely due to pre-existing factors.
正如你所看到的,在2024财年,收到了78万份注册申请。
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As you can see, in fiscal year 2024, 780,000 registrations were received.
2025年接近48万,2026财年为34.4万。
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In 2025, almost 480 and in fiscal year 2026, 344.
这种下降是政策变化、欺诈打击、经济因素和H-1B系统性改革共同作用的完美结果。
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This decline is a result of a perfect storm of policy changes, fraud crackdowns, economic factors, and systematic reforms around H-1B.
让我们来分解一下:为什么会发生这种情况?
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Let's break it down. Why did this happen?
欺诈性多重注册的泛滥
原因一:2020年至2024年间,欺诈性多重注册现象泛滥成灾。
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Reason number one, the epidemic of fraudulent multiple registrations between year 2020 and 2024.
2024年7月,彭博社(Bloomberg: 知名金融信息和新闻服务公司)发布了一项震惊业界的调查,揭示了系统性滥用和达到流行病程度的众多欺诈行为。
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In July 2024, the Bloomberg published an earthshaking investigation that revealed systematic abuse and numerous frauds that have reached epidemic proportions.
在2023财年提交的H-1B注册数据中,有一名个人被注册了83次。
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In H1B registration data submitted in fiscal year 2023, there was one individual that was registered 83 times.
同样在2023年,超过9000名个人拥有五次或更多注册。
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Also, in 2023, over 9,000 individuals had five or more registrations.
彭博社的分析估计,大约有15500份已分配的签证,即六分之一,是通过抽签作弊(lottery gaming: 指通过提交多份申请来增加中签几率的行为)获得的。
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Bloomberg analysis estimates that roughly 15,500 of allocated visas, meaning one in six were obtained through lottery gaming.
在这种情况下,抽签作弊是指你为一个人提交多份注册。
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In this case, lottery gaming is when you submit multiple registrations for one person.
现在,你需要了解一些关于向美国输送工人的印度机构的情况。
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Now, there is something you need to know about Indian agencies that supplied workers to the United States.
如果你不熟悉印度公司在H-1B背景下的重要性,这里是原因。
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But just in case you're unfamiliar with the significance of Indian firms in the context of H-1B, here is why it's important.
这是获得H-1B签证的人员构成。
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Here is the demographics of people who obtained H-1B visas.
印度国民持有大约71%的所有H-1B签证。
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Indian nationals hold around 71% of all H-1B visas.
第二大群体是中国国民。
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The second largest group is Chinese nationals.
但即使在这两个最大的群体之间,你也能看出差异有多大。
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第三大群体是加拿大国民。
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The third largest is Canadian nationals.
但加拿大国民有另一条进入美国的途径,那就是TN签证(Trade NAFTA Visa: 北美自由贸易协定专业人士签证)。
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But Canadian nationals have another path into the US, which is the TN visa.
所以,他们不会是这次谈话的主题。
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So, they're not going to be the subject of this conversation.
现在,让我们看看美国科技企业使用H-1B的模式。
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Now, let's look at the H-1B usage pattern by American tech enterprises.
从H-1B签证持有者中获益最多的公司是大型科技公司和其他一线美国企业以及咨询公司。
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The companies that benefit the most from H-1B visa holders are big tech and other tier 1 American enterprises and consulting firms.
对于印度国民,请记住他们占所有H-1B签证的71%,其中25%由主要的印度IT服务公司赞助。
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Now for the Indian nationals and remember that is 71% of all H-1B visas. 25% of them are sponsored by major Indian IT service companies.
运作方式如下:例如,这些印度IT公司在印度境内雇佣熟练工程师和技术专业人员。
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Here's how it works. For example, Indian IT firms like these hire skilled engineers and tech professionals within India.
然后,这些公司充当H-1B签证的担保人,这意味着他们代表其雇佣的工人提交签证申请。
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Then these companies act as H-1B visa sponsors, meaning that they file visa petitions on behalf of the workers that they employ.
他们在美国谈判合同和工资,并向美国公司提供人才。
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They negotiate the contract. They negotiate the salary in the US and they supply the talent to the US company.
合同谈判发生在印度咨询公司和雇佣人才的美国公司之间,而不是获得工作的个人之间。
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The contract negotiation happens between an Indian consultancy and the US company that hires the talent, not between the individual who gets the job.
现在,其余的H-1B签证要么由美国公司直接担保,要么可能由大学、初创公司或其他类型的雇主担保。
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Now the remainder of H-1B visas are sponsored either by American companies directly or perhaps universities, startups or other employer types.
但这个25%的数字,即由IT咨询公司担保的人数,对于H-1B来说相当可观,因为印度IT公司是H-1B下最大的雇主群体类别。
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But this 25% figure which is the number of people sponsored by IT consultant firms is quite sizable for H-1B because Indian IT firms are the largest employer group category under H1B.
回到多重欺诈性注册的问题,向美国输送工人的印度咨询公司会怎么做呢?
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So going back to the problem of multiple fraudulent registrations, what Indian consulting firms that supplied workers to the US would do is they would create multiple companies with similar names and shared addresses.
他们会创建多个名称相似、地址共享的公司。
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They would submit the same worker multiple times under different company names and that would significantly increase their chances at lottery wins.
他们会以不同的公司名义多次提交同一名工人,这将大大增加他们在抽签中获胜的机会。
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While legitimate companies get fewer than half of their requested visas, they would then rent out H-1B workers to major US giants like Amazon or Google and take 20 to 30% of their pay.
而合法的公司获得的签证通常不到其申请数量的一半,这些咨询公司会将H-1B工人租给亚马逊或谷歌等美国巨头,并从中抽取20%到30%的工资。
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Bloomberg also found out that the HCL Technologies, which is an Indian IT consulting company, allegedly underpaid H-1B workers by $95 million.
彭博社还发现,印度IT咨询公司HCL Technologies(HCL技术公司)涉嫌少付H-1B工人9500万美元。
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Before filming this video, I posted a community post on YouTube asking you guys to drop your questions.
在拍摄本视频之前,我在YouTube上发布了一个社区帖子,请大家提出问题。
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So, I will be responding to most of them as we go through the video.
所以,我将在视频中回答大部分问题。
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Here is one of them. Indian workers were given carrots for working on shore.
这是其中一个问题:印度工人被给予了“胡萝卜”以换取在美国工作。
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Now, based on everything I just said, to be objective, it is important to understand why they were paid carrots.
现在,根据我刚才所说的一切,为了客观起见,重要的是要理解他们为什么会得到“胡萝卜”。
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Both US companies and Indian consultant companies benefited from this.
美国公司和印度咨询公司都从中受益。
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America hired workers with the necessary qualifications for less and Indian agencies rented out their own people for less.
美国以更低的成本雇佣了具备必要资格的工人,而印度机构则以更低的成本出租了自己的人员。
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Now the tech workers who wanted a chance at an immigration took those offers which were carrots and went.
那些渴望移民机会的科技工人接受了这些“胡萝卜”般的提议,并前往美国。
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So it's a win-win for the companies but the worker is the one who gets screwed.
所以这对公司来说是双赢,但工人却是受害者。
受益人中心选择改革
原因二:为了应对这些欺诈行为,美国公民及移民服务局(US Citizenship and Immigration Services: 负责美国移民和入籍事务的联邦机构)于2025年推出了受益人中心选择改革(Beneficiary-centric selection reform: 一项旨在打击H-1B签证欺诈的政策改革),以打击欺诈。
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Reason number two, in response to these frauds, in 2025, the US citizenship and immigration services introduced the beneficiary centric selection reform to fight the fraud.
这项改革引入了以下变化:每个独特的个人只会被选中一次,无论有多少雇主为其注册,这基本上消除了多重注册的动机。
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The reform introduced the following changes. Each unique person gets selected only once regardless of how many employers register them, which basically means that the incentive for multiple registrations was eliminated.
结果,这项改革实施后,次年的注册量下降了38.6%。
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As a result, right after this reform, there was a 38.6% 6% decline in registration in the following year.
科技行业裁员与需求减少
原因三:科技行业裁员和需求减少。
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Reason number three, tech industry layoffs and reduced demand.
在过去的三年里,科技行业经历了前所未有的裁员,这是疫情期间过度招聘的结果。
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In the past 3 years, the tech industry went through unprecedented job cuts as a result of extreme overhiring during pandemic.
我为此话题制作了几期视频,解释了裁员危机与人工智能无关,而与过度招聘的修正有关。
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I dedicated several videos to this topic, explaining why the layoff crisis has nothing to do with AI and everything to do with overhiring correction.
所以,如果你想了解原因,可以查看那些视频。
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So, if you'd like to understand the reasons why, check these out.
但由于这些裁员,H-1B持有者受到了特别严重的影响。
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But because of those layoffs, H-1B holders got particularly affected.
被解雇的人面临60天内找到新担保人或离开美国的期限。
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The ones who got laid off face 60-day deadlines to find new sponsors or leave the country.
公司在裁减现有员工的同时,不愿再担保新的H-1B工人。
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Companies became reluctant to sponsor new H1B workers while laying off existing staff.
更糟糕的是,微软(Microsoft: 跨国科技公司)因在裁员9000名员工的同时申请了4700份H-1B签证而遭到强烈反对和批评。
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And to top it off, Microsoft got caught in a wave of backlash and criticism because they requested 4700 H1B visas while laying off 9,000 employees.
远程工作与外包的兴起
原因四:远程工作和外包。
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Reason number four, remote work and outsourcing.
早在疫情之前,将工人迁往美国的趋势就已经在下降,当时公司们意识到很多工作,尤其是技术工作,都可以远程完成。
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The decline in relocating workers to the US was already happening since before the pandemic when companies realized that a lot of work and especially technical work could be done remotely.
疫情并没有导致这一趋势,但它显著加速了这一转变。
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Pandemic did not cause it but it significantly accelerated the shift.
如果可以这么说的话,疫情为那些怀疑论者提供了概念验证,因为今天远程工作的科技工人数量是2019年的三到四倍。
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The pandemic provided the proof of concept if I may that skeptics needed because today three to four times more tech workers are remote compared to 2019.
从我个人经验中举一个简单的例子,产品和产品管理在历史上一直是所有工作中离岸外包风险最低的,因为产品经理几乎总是在现场。
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A quick example from my personal experience, product and product management has been historically one of the safest jobs of all when it came to offshoring because PMs are almost always on site.
我说“现场”,不一定是指他们在办公室,而是他们通常在产品销售的国家。
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When I say on-site, I don't necessarily mean that they're in the office, but they're usually in the country where the product is being sold.
但即使是产品岗位,在我的职业生涯中,比如过去五年,我看到我的同事和我自己在离开后被离岸人才取代。
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But even for product and I'm seeing this in my career like over the past 5 years for example I have seen both my colleagues and myself being replaced by offshore talent after we left.
科技行业几年前就已经摆脱了对签证的依赖招聘。
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The tech industry has already shifted away from visa dependent hiring several years ago.
有足够的数据证实,无论移民政策如何,这种转型都在加速。
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There is sufficient data that confirms that this transformation was accelerating regardless of immigration policy.
远程工作成为常态,而非例外。
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Remote work became the norm, not the exception.
如今,97%的科技公司提供远程或混合工作选项。
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97% of tech companies today offer either remote or hybrid options.
2025年全球IT外包市场规模为7310亿美元。
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Global IT outsourcing market is 731 billion in 2025.
目前,全球外包的74%是IT服务。
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74% of all global outsourcing is now IT services.
在过去八年里,向美国公司提供人才的七大印度公司将H-1B的使用量减少了56%,因为西方市场已经开始转向外包模式,而不是H-1B招聘。
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The top seven Indian firms that provided talent to the US companies reduced H-1B usage by 56% over the past eight years because the western market had already begun switching to the outsourcing model instead of H-1B hiring.
他们是逐渐这样做的,但已经持续了一段时间。
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They did it gradually but they've been doing it for a while.
2025年,对于提供IT服务的前十大印度咨询公司来说,H-1B工人占其全部员工的比例不到1%。
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In 2025, for the top 10 Indian consulting companies that provide IT services, H-1B workers represent less than 1% of their entire employee base.
对于美国企业,仅亚马逊(Amazon: 跨国科技巨头)在全球就有150万员工。
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And for the US enterprises, Amazon alone has 1.5 million employees globally.
其1.2万名H-1B员工占其总劳动力的比例不到1%。
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Their 12,000 people on H-1B represent less than 1% of the entire workforce.
H-1B经济效益的转变
甚至在特朗普征收费用之前,H-1B的整体经济效益就已经在发生转变。
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Even before Trump's fee, the economics were shifting against H-1B as a whole.
原因如下:一家印度公司的典型H-1B科技工人年收入约为1.5万美元,同时产生15万至20万美元的账单。
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And here's why. A typical H-1B tech worker at an Indian firm earns around $15,000 annually while generating between 150 and $200,000 in billings.
这每年只产生1.5万到2万美元的年利润,利润率仅为10%。
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This produces only $15 to $20,000 a year in annual profit and that's a 10% margins.
之前5000到1万美元的H-1B费用就已经侵蚀了这些利润,更不用说10万美元了。
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The previous H1B fees between $5 to $10,000 were already eating into those margins, let alone 100K.
现在,让我们快速回到你的评论。
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Now, let's quickly come back to your comments.
这是其中一条:在海外招聘人才和增加美国就业是两个不相关的事件,因为没有什么能阻止美国现在这样做。
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Here's one of them. hiring talent overseas and increasing US jobs are two unrelated events because there is nothing that prevents the US from doing it now.
是远程招聘影响了H-1B的下降,而不是反过来。
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It's the remote hiring that affected the decline of H-1B, not the other way around.
另一个关于子公司的评论也很好。
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And another good comment about subsidiaries.
他们确实开设了子公司,并通过它们输送工作。
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They do open them and they do funnel work through them.
正如你所知,所有大型科技公司和一线企业都在其他国家开设并转移了大量资源。
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As you know, all big tech and tier 1 enterprises have been opening and shifting multiple resources to other countries.
举几个例子:加拿大、爱尔兰、英国和德国。
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Just a few examples, Canada, Ireland, England, and Germany.
工人真的没有理由必须身在美国,特别是如果他们合作的所有团队都在海外。
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There really is no reason for a worker to be physically present in the US, especially if all of the teams that they're working with are offshore.
所有这些都引出了我的最后一点。
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All of this brings me to my final point.
从经济角度来看,目前海外技术工作的费率使得10万美元的费用对美国来说几乎无关紧要。
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Current rates for offshore technical work make the $100,000 fee almost irrelevant from the economic standpoint for the US.
在印度,全栈开发人员的时薪在18到40美元之间。
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In India, the rate is between $18 and $40 per hour for full stack developers.
在东欧,每小时25到149美元。
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In Eastern Europe, between 25 and 149 per hour.
在拉丁美洲,费率不仅具有竞争力,而且与美国时区保持一致。
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In Latin America, the rates are not only competitive, but also with US time zone alignment.
一家公司向海外开发人员支付每小时50美元,总计10万美元,可以避免H-1B费用和更高的美国工资,同时完成同样的工作。
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A company paying an offshore developer $50 an hour, which is $100,000 total, can avoid both the H-1B fee and the higher US salary while getting the same work done.
H-1B项目的初衷与异化
现在你可能会说,那些把H-1B视为移民途径的人怎么办?
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Now, to that you may say, what about all the people who considered H-1B a path to immigration?
为了回答这个问题,我想暂停一下,带你回到H-1B项目的最初目的。
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And to answer that question, I would like to pause and bring you back to the initial purpose of the H-1B program.
H-1B从一开始的全部意义在于,它始终是为经验丰富、杰出的人才准备的。
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The whole point of H1B from its inception was that it was always meant to be for highly experienced and distinguished individuals.
H1签证类别是由20世纪50年代的《移民和国籍法》为具有杰出才能和能力的外国工人设立的。
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H1 visa category was created by the immigration and nationality act for foreign workers and distinguished merit and ability in the 50s.
在20世纪90年代,布什总统在H1签证类别中引入了一个名为H-1B的子类别,它是为从事专业职业和具有杰出能力的工人设立的。
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In the '90s, President Bush introduced a subgroup in the H1 visa category called H1B and it was created for workers with specialty occupations and distinguished ability.
我要感谢这位评论者,他推荐了我在本节中将引用的报告。
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I would like to thank the author of this comment for suggesting the report that I'm going to reference in this section.
工作复杂性分为四个级别,每个级别都由该工作将为企业带来的价值来定义,而价值则由提议的薪资来定义。
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There are four levels of job complexity and each level is defined by the value that this job is going to bring to the enterprise and the value is defined by the proposed salary.
正如你所看到的,少数注册申请是在第四级别提交的,而近一半是在第二级别提交的。
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As you can see, the minority of registrations were filed at level four while nearly half were filed at level two.
除此之外,所有申请中有15.4%是在第一级别(最低工资档次)提交的。
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On top of that, 15.4% 4% of all applications were filed at level one, the lowest possible wage tier.
从这两张图表和报告的其余部分可以很明显地看出,H-1B项目并非像最初设想的那样用于吸引顶尖全球人才,而是用于填补低于中位数工资水平的职位,这与其既定目标背道而驰。
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From these two charts and the rest of the report, it becomes pretty evident that the H-1B program was not used to attract top tier global talent as it originally intended, but to fill the roles at below median wage levels, which goes against its stated objectives.
在这张图表上,你可以看到H-1B的工资分布在每个百分位数点上都系统性地偏低,这可能表明雇主在H-1B担保中的做法与项目的目标不符。
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On this chart, you can see that the H-1B wage distributions are systematically lower at every percentile point, which may suggest that the employer practices in H1B sponsorships do not go in line with the objective of the program.
大多数H-1B职位都属于较低的工资级别一和二,这为美国公司带来了经济优势,使其倾向于H-1B工人而非技能相似的美国工人。
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The majority of H-1B positions fell into the lower wage levels one and two, which creates economic advantage for US companies to favor H-1B workers over similarly skilled US workers.
但这并非该项目设立的初衷。
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But this is not what the program was built for.
H-1B项目是由美国设立的,旨在支持美国寻找高技能人才以填补人才短缺的利益。
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H-1B program was created by the US to support the interests of the US in finding highly skilled talent to fill talent shortages.
这本应是只为经验丰富的人才提供的途径。
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This was meant to be the path only for highly experienced people.
这个项目之所以崩溃,嗯,虽然不是完全崩溃,但你明白我的意思,是因为它被美国企业和提供H-1B人才的外国机构所滥用。
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The reason this program has collapsed, well, not fully, but you know what I mean, is because it was abused by both US enterprises as well as foreign agencies in the countries that supplied H-1B talent.
H-1B新政对全球科技格局的影响
好的,现在我们已经涵盖了H-1B和科技行业的宏观变化,让我们了解这到底意味着什么。
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Okay, now that we've covered H-1B and macro changes in the tech industry, let's understand what this really means.
如果你研究H-1B费用争议周围的枯燥数据,你就会明白H-1B的衰落是不可避免的。
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If you study the boring data around H1B fee controversy, you will understand that the decline of H-1B was inevitable.
全球科技行业已经从根本上改变了其运营模式,物理位置的重要性远不如五年前。
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The global tech industry has fundamentally changed its operating model and physical location matters far less than it did even 5 years ago.
这笔费用使H-1B成为一个不那么受欢迎的移民途径。
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This fee makes H-1B a less desired path for immigration.
也就是说,在所有你可以选择移居美国成为科技工人的方式中,H-1B将变得不那么受欢迎。
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As in, of all the ways that you can pick to move to the US as a tech worker, H1B is going to be a lot less popular.
但从美国的经济角度来看,这不会成为问题。
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But it is not going to be a problem from the economic standpoint for the US.
转型已经发生,对H-1B的依赖正在下降。
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The transition was already happening and H1B dependency was declining.
远程工作提供了更经济可行的方式来招聘人才,而不是将工人带到美国。
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Remote work provided more economically viable way to hire talent rather than bringing workers in the US.
通过直接外包,全球人才的获取和质量都得到了提高。
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Global talent access and the quality of global talent improved through direct outsourcing.
最后,即使在征收费用之前,美国节省的成本也已非常显著。
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And lastly, cost savings for the US were dramatic even before the fee.
令人惊讶的反应表明政治噪音与经济现实相悖。
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The surprise reaction shows how political noise contradicts economic realities.
现在快速回到关于学生的评论。
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Quickly coming back to the comments now in regards to the students.
是的,毕业后依赖H-1B签证的学生确实是受影响最严重的群体之一。
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Yes, it is absolutely true that the students depending on the H-1B visas after graduation are among the most affected groups.
许多国际学生依赖H-1B途径从F1学生签证(Student Visa: 美国学生签证)过渡,数据证实相当一部分H-1B签证持有者之前持有F1签证。
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Many international students rely on the H-1B pathway to transition from the F1 student visa and the data confirms that a significant chunk of H1B visa holders were previously on F1.
从积极的一面看,我相当肯定美国政府将在未来几个月内为学术职位或硕士、博士毕业生制定某些例外或特殊项目。
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On the positive side, I am pretty sure that the US government will make certain exceptions or special programs for academic jobs or people who graduated masters or PhD level programs in the upcoming months.
但同时,我不得不承认,在所有受H-1B变化影响的人中,学生将是最难留在美国的群体。
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But at the same time, I got to admit that of all the people who got affected by the H-1B changes, students are the ones who are going to have a very hard time staying in the US.
另一方面,如果你毕业于一所美国大学,尤其是一所名牌大学,加拿大、欧洲和亚洲都会乐意接纳你。
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Now on the other hand, if you have graduated from an American university, especially if it's a university with a big name, Canada, Europe, and Asia will gladly take you.
但如果我们要谈论长期留在美国的可能性,那将变得困难得多。
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But yeah, if we talk about the possibility of staying in the US long term, it is going to be much harder.
这条评论说,此举不符合美国吸引最优秀人才的利益。
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This comment here that this move is against the interest of the US to attract the best minds.
这可能是我个人唯一不同意的观点,仅仅因为还有多种其他方式可以吸引最优秀的人才。
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This is probably the only point that I personally disagree with only because there are multiple other ways to attract the best talent.
有L1签证(Intracompany Transferee Visa: 跨国公司内部调动签证),有O1签证(Individuals with Extraordinary Ability or Achievement Visa: 杰出人才签证),有TN签证,有卫星办公室招聘。
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There is L1, there is 01, there is TN, there is satellite office hiring.
有多种方式可以将人才带到美国,或者让他们为美国公司在H-1B之外的地方工作。
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There are multiple ways of bringing people into the US or having them do the work for the US companies outside of H1B.
现在有句名言说“没有H-1B就没有硅谷”,这是真的,因为其他国家为美国带来的创新和人才的巨大影响不容低估。
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Now there is this famous saying that there is no Silicon Valley without H-1B which is true because the impact and the amount of innovation and talent that other countries have given the US cannot be underestimated.
但在我看来,当谈到硅谷和H-1B时,H-1B在这里被相当宽泛地使用了。
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But when it comes to Silicon Valley and H1B in my view H1B is being used here fairly loosely.
在这种情况下,H-1B就像一个总称,指所有来到美国、将他们的才能带到美国、建设他们在自己国家无法建设的东西的移民。
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H1B in this case is like an umbrella term for all immigrants who came to the US who brought their talent to the US to build something that they weren't able to build back home.
所以,这不仅仅是关于H-1B,也包括O1、L1、TN以及所有其他允许你作为科技工作者进入美国的签证类型。
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So it's not so much about H1B in particular. It's also 01 and L1 and TN and all other kinds of visas that exist out there that would allow you to get into the US as a tech worker.
最后,让我们谈谈这对全球科技多元化意味着什么,特别是在加拿大、欧洲和亚洲。
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And lastly, let's talk about what this means for global tech diversification, specifically in Canada, Europe, and Asia.
加拿大:机遇与挑战并存
从加拿大开始,加拿大已经实施了一项专门计划,每年允许多达1万名H-1B签证持有者申请加拿大工作许可。
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Starting with Canada, Canada already operates a dedicated program allowing up to 10,000 H1B visa holders to apply for Canadian work permits annually.
通过全球人才流项目,加拿大工作许可最短可在两周内处理完成。
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Canadian work permits can be processed in as little as 2 weeks through the global talent stream.
与美国不同,外国工人的配偶在加拿大自动获得工作许可。
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Unlike the US, spouses of foreign workers automatically receive work permits in Canada.
有很多问题问人们是否会选择加拿大而不是美国。
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There's been a lot of questions asking whether people are going to pick Canada over the US.
是的,会有兴趣,但让我们详细讨论一下,因为它不会那么简单。
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Yes, there is going to be interest, but let's talk about it in detail because it's not going to be straightforward.
H-1B的变化确实为加拿大打开了一扇窗,使其能够吸引来自美国的具有工作经验的STEM(Science, Technology, Engineering, and Mathematics: 科学、技术、工程和数学)人才,并支持北美地区许多科技工人的人口增长和经济发展,这包括加拿大本土出生、美国本土出生和外国出生的人。
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The changes to H-1B do open a window for Canada to attract STEM talent with work experience from the US and support population growth and economy for lots of tech workers in North America and this includes Canadian born, Americanborn and foreignb born people.
加拿大一直被视为美国行不通时的“备选方案B”。
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Canada has a reputation of being an option B if America doesn't work out.
我在加拿大居住了多年,在我所有的科技人脉中,那些通常会选择加拿大而非美国的人,往往是那些政治或意识形态观点非常强烈的人。
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Having lived in Canada for many years, of all my network in tech, the people who would typically pick Canada over the US would be the ones with very strong political or ideological views.
例如,有孩子的人很常见会说他们害怕美国的枪支暴力,这就是他们更喜欢加拿大的原因。
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For example, it's very common to hear from people who have kids to hear that they would be scared of gun violence in the US and that's why they prefer Canada.
但那些没有强烈观点的人会很乐意去美国。
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But people who don't have very strong views would happily go to the US.
这可能以完全搬迁的形式出现。
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It can be either in a form of complete relocation.
也可能是他们仍然在加拿大,但为美国企业工作,并往返于两国之间。
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It could be that they're still located in Canada but working for the US enterprise and going back and forth.
也可能是他们完全远程工作,但拿着美国公司的工资。
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It could be that they're completely remote but working for a US salary.
关键是,美国公司的工资对加拿大很多人来说是一个梦想。
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Point is the US salary is a dream for a lot of people in Canada.
但既然我们谈论的是国家,以及H-1B不再符合美国利益的事实,那么从加拿大的利益角度思考同样的问题是公平的。
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But since we're talking about countries and the fact that H-1B is no longer working in the interest of the US, it is only fair to think about the same problem from the interest of Canada.
当一个加拿大人开发软件、产品或任何与外国知识产权(Intellectual property: 智力劳动成果的专有权利)相关的东西时,换句话说,如果一个在加拿大的人为一家美国公司工作,或向加拿大境外的总部汇报,那么知识产权就留在加拿大境外,对该国的长期创新战略没有贡献。
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when a Canadian builds a software, a product, anything really that is tied to a foreign intellectual property. So in other words, if a person in Canada is working for a US company or reports to head offices outside of Canada, the intellectual property stays outside of Canada and does not contribute to the country's long-term innovation strategy.
我在这段视频中详细讨论了加拿大的知识产权危机。
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I spoke about intellectual property crisis in Canada in this video at length. Check it out if you're interested.
这不仅仅适用于加拿大。
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And this doesn't solely apply to Canada.
只是在加拿大,我们在这方面有一个相当大的危机。
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It's just in Canada, we have a pretty big crisis with that.
但我想说的是,如果加拿大想利用这个机会吸引那些无法留在美国的STEM人才,我们不能简单地通过开放一个H-1B的等效项目,然后说“是的,进来为美国企业工作”来解决这个问题。
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But the point I'm trying to make is that if Canada wants to use the opportunity to attract STEM talent that cannot stay in the US, we cannot solve this problem by simply opening an equivalent of H-1B and being like, "Yep, come in and work for the US enterprises."
我们必须为来到这里的人提供更好的选择,让他们有理由留下来,即使H-1B的这种转变在五年后被下一届美国政府逆转。
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We have to offer a better alternative for the people who come here to have reasons to stay even if this shift with H-1B gets reverted 5 years down the line by the next US government.
除此之外,还有基础设施的现实检验。
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On top of it, the infrastructure reality check.
加拿大对移民系统施加了重大限制。
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Canada has introduced significant constraints to the immigration system.
从2025年开始,加拿大将年度移民水平降低了20%。
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Starting 2025, Canada reduced annual immigration levels by 20%.
底线是,如果加拿大想利用H-1B变化带来的机会,而不是成为美国的卫星国或美国行不通时的“备选方案B”,就需要设计一个深思熟虑且全面的项目,首先要让加拿大受益。
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Bottom line, if Canada wants to take advantage of the changes caused by H-1B, instead of being an American satellite or a constant option B if America doesn't work out, there needs to be a thoughtful and comprehensive program designed to benefit Canada before everybody else.
一个能够保护加拿大知识产权、吸引风险投资(Venture Capital: 对初创企业进行股权投资以获取高回报的投资形式)进入加拿大,并让人们即使美国发生变化也愿意留在这里的项目。
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a program that will protect Canadian intellectual property, get VC money to Canada, and have people stay here even if something changes in the US.
目前,加拿大政府一直保持沉默,但毕竟才过了一周。
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For now, the Canadian government has been silent, but then it's only been a week.
我们拭目以待接下来会发生什么。
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We'll see what happens next.
欧洲:新兴的科技中心
关于欧洲,说几句。
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A few words on Europe.
多年来,甚至几十年来,对于在美国或加拿大从事大型科技或一线科技工作的人来说,欧洲从未真正被视为一个选择。
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For years, probably decades, to anyone working in big tech or tier one tech in the US or even Canada, Europe was never really considered an option.
也许只有伦敦,或者都柏林,也仅仅是为了FAANG(Facebook, Amazon, Apple, Netflix, Google: 几家大型科技公司的首字母缩写)公司,但欧洲一直被认为是次于美国或加拿大的一个退步。
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maybe London, perhaps Dublin only for fang, but Europe has always been considered like a bit of a step back after the US or Canada.
然而,随着过去五年地缘政治的转变,以及后疫情、后裁员的“人工智能优先经济”,英国出人意料地成为主要受益者,尽管存在脱欧相关的人才流失。
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However, with the recent geopolitical shifts of the past 5 years and the post-pandemic post layoff AI first economy, the UK is surprisingly emerging as a major beneficiary despite Brexit related talent outflows.
德国也通过多项签证项目,将自己定位为欧洲主要的H-1B替代方案。
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Germany is also positioning itself as the primary H-1B alternative in Europe through multiple visa programs.
在这个具体的视频中,我不会深入探讨欧洲的整体科技状况,因为我制作了一系列视频,分析了后疫情、后裁员的“人工智能优先经济”中各种科技市场,并涵盖了欧洲和海湾地区的多个市场。
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In this specific video, I'm not going to drill into the whole tech situation in Europe because I made a series of videos analyzing various tech markets in post-pandemic post layoff AI first economy and covered multiple markets in Europe and the Gulf region.
欢迎大家去探索这些内容。
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You're welcome to explore those.
长话短说,我们确实正处于一个科技中心将在加拿大、欧洲和亚洲之间更强劲地多元化的时期。
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Long story short, we are indeed at a point where there's going to be a stronger diversification of tech hubs across Canada, Europe, and Asia.
H-1B新政的可逆性与美国科技优势
在我们结束之前,还有一些大家提出的问题。
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Before we wrap up, a few more questions that you guys dropped.
这项改变可逆吗?
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Is this change reversible?
我个人认为不可逆。
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Personally, I don't think so.
我不认为它会完全逆转。
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I don't think it will be fully reversed.
很有可能会进行修正,或者引入一些新的条款,或者为今年或明年毕业的大学生制定一些新项目。
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It is very possible that it will be corrected or some new clauses introduced or perhaps some new programs for students who graduate universities this year or next year.
但考虑到当前美国政府的模式以及H-1B项目本身就存在严重缺陷的事实,我不认为它会被逆转。
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But given the patterns of the current US administration and the fact that H-1B program in and of itself was extremely flawed, I do not think that it will be reversed.
如果他们决定改变,我认为他们应该引入一个完全不同的项目。
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And if anything, if they decide to change it, I think that they should introduce a different program altogether.
但这只是我的个人意见。
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But again, this is just my opinion.
这会侵蚀美国的科技优势吗?
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Will this erode US's technology advantage?
我个人认为,这并非必然会导致侵蚀。
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I personally would say that I don't think that it is a guaranteed erosion.
我的意思是,尽管发生了这些,美国仍拥有非常强大的系统性优势。
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I mean despite what happened, the US has very strong systematic advantages.
它拥有大学、无与伦比的风险投资环境、资本、基础设施、大型科技公司以及真正的科技文化。
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It has universities. It has unmatched VC scene, capital, infrastructure, large tech firms and that culture, that real tech culture.
我不认为美国会失去其在全球范围内的优势。
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I do not think that the US will lose its advantage on the global scale.
相反,在我看来,H-1B所发生的一切是全球多元化的一个信号,表明如果你从事大型科技行业并想赚大钱,美国不再是唯一的选择。
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But instead, again, in my opinion, I think that what has happened to H1B is a signal of global diversification and the fact that US is no longer the only place to be if you're in big tech and want to make really good money.
考虑到H-1B的缺陷,很有可能会引入替代项目。
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Given how flawed H1B was, it is very possible that an alternative program will be introduced.
此外,我们不要忘记L1、O1和TN签证。
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And also, let's not forget about L1, 01, and TN.
此外,许多科技公司正在将工作转移到卫星办公室或进行全球外包。
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Also, lots of tech companies are shifting work to satellite offices or outsourcing globally.
所以对我个人而言,这听起来不像是一种侵蚀,而是一个全球多元化的迹象,这不仅发生在科技层面,也发生在更广泛的全球地缘政治层面,美国不再是最大的超级大国。
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So again to me personally this does not sound like an erosion but rather a sign of global diversifications which is actually happening not only on the tech level but on the global geopolitical level where US is no longer the biggest superpower.
总结
今天的节目到此结束。
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And that's a wrap for today's episode.
我尽可能多地涵盖了内容,没有偏离主题。
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I covered as much as I could without deviating from the subject.
所以对于我没有涵盖的任何问题,我将在未来的视频中讨论或在评论中回复。
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So for any questions that I haven't covered I will either take them up in future videos or respond in comments.
一如既往,我很乐意听取大家的想法。
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As always would love to hear what you guys think.
感谢收听。
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Thank you for listening.
下次再见。
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Till next time.
再见。
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Bye.