AI 驱动的单人百亿公司:General Intelligence 公司 CTO 详解 The MAD Podcast with Matt Turck 2026-03-31

AI 赋能:从助理到百亿公司的飞跃

Andrew 介绍了他的背景,作为 General Intelligence Company 的 CEO,他怀揣着一个宏大的愿景:赋能一人百亿公司(one-person billion-dollar company),即创建能够完全由 AI 自我运行的组织。他分享了公司创立的初衷和任务——实现这一愿景。

在深入探讨未来之前,Andrew 回顾了他早年的经历,包括 18 岁成为 CEO 并辍学创业。他指出,在不久的将来,AI Agent(AI 代理)将变得极其强大,能够执行几乎任何任务,这将深刻改变公司的运作模式。他设想了一个未来:一个公司可以由一个人来运营,而大量的垂直性 AI Agent(如客服、财务、营销)则会独立运作,由“协调者”或“管理者”Agent 统一调度。General Intelligence 公司将聚焦于这一管理者 Agent(manager agent)和人机交互界面。

他们推出的首款产品是 Co-founder,一个基于云的 AI 助手,拥有先进的记忆能力,能像用户一样起草邮件,并能跨计算机执行 Agent 任务。Co-founder 曾帮助超过 8000 家初创公司自动化运营,并在处理复杂 Agent 任务方面积累了宝贵经验。然而,Andrew 强调,一个强大的助手并非一家公司。由此,他们开始探索“什么是公司?”这一核心问题。他们提出了一个构成公司的基础框架:创建产品(create a product)、销售产品(sell it)、支持产品(support it),最后是运营(operate)。简单来说,能够创造软件产品,将其卖给用户并持续获得收入,从而得以生存,这就是一个完整的公司。这四个环节构成了 Andrew 作为创始人日常工作的核心。

Original English

My name is Andrew. Uh, and I'm going to

be talking about how we go from here to

the oneperson billion-dollar company.

Now, a little bit about ourselves. We

founded the general intelligence company

in New York about a year ago. I'm going

to call it general intelligence because

I only have so many words I can say. Our

mission is to enable the oneperson

billion dollar company. We want to build

uh organizations that run themselves

with AI. There's a number of ways we're

going to get there. I'm going to talk

about them, but first a little bit about

myself. Um, this is my second company.

Uh, I've been CEO since I was 18. I

dropped out of college. About the world.

Now, in a couple years, we're going to

start seeing all of this stuff um come

together. So, agents finally work. They

can do basically anything you want them

to do. What happens next? Well, we're

going to start seeing companies change a

little bit. And eventually we'll have

one person that can run a company that's

very wide and very I guess large in

operations run by just one person and

then below that will be a bunch of

agents. Um vertical agents like customer

support, finance, marketing and things

like that will be run on on their own

and then there's going to be

coordinators or like managers above them

and uh that's where we're focusing is

the manager agents and the interface in

which the people are going to use them.

So think about us like the like the the

middle management layer and then we want

to use other people's agents for things

on the bottom. We don't want to make

every agent for everything. That

wouldn't be possible. But let's talk

about co-founder. So co-founder was our

first product. We created it back in uh

September. We launched on September 8th

and uh it was like an assistant where

you can go and you can run agent across

a computer in the cloud. It's got

state-of-the-art memory so it knows

about you. It can draft emails. It

really read like you. And so people were

using it for all sorts of stuff. Um they

were using it to make their uh email

spam for their sales thing work. They

were using it to look up candidates on

LinkedIn. Some people just started

giving it API keys which we told them

not to do but they keep trying to do it.

It was able to like automate different

pieces uh of a company and people really

liked it. So it was pretty successful.

We've had over 8,000 startups use

co-founder to automate their operations

which uh was was pretty fun. Um, we

learned a lot in that and we were able

to just workbench on this

state-of-the-art agent and get it to do

really difficult things. An assistant is

not a company, right? I got up here and

told you we're going to make one person

billion dollar companies. Well,

something that writes your emails better

is not a company. What is a company?

This is the question we started asking

ourselves. And we wanted to figure out

how to go from co-founder to our vision

of, you know, this this one person

billion dollar company. And so we came

up with this framework. Um this is for

product based companies or services

companies which are different but you

create a product you sell it you support

it and then you operate. So you know in

very simple terms this is an entire

company. If you can create something

like a piece of software and then you

can go and sell it to people that give

you money and then you can make sure

that they keep giving you money and then

you can exist. That's basically what I

do all day long as a founder is is these

three things. These four things. Then we

moved on to like how do we do what's

next which is step one and that's

creating a product and that's what I'm

going to show you guys today is kind of

some of our approaches there. Back in

the summertime we used co-founder to

make a version of fully automated

feature development. This was back like

two generations of models ago but we

were able to set up these automations

where let's say uh an email comes in

with a bug report or a feature. We can

pull in some data. We can make a report

on that and create a linear ticket to to

track the feature. Then we can use Slack

to kick off Devon to go code a fix and

then update the ticket when it's done.

And then we were able to hack together

this thing where we would generate a QA

test list to see how how do you test

this thing that you just got this report

on and then actually use a browser agent

to see if we could get it to work. And

so this was a way of going from, hey,

here's a bug report in an email all the

way to it's now coded and merged and you

have a browser that's using it. When we

started looking at this, we started

thinking about, okay, well, you you kind

of need a management layer. So, you need

a manager that looks over these things

like your product agent or your your

email agent or your your your coding

agent to be able to actually work on

these things, which is like, how do I

make the product better? How do I get it

to a system where there's no bugs in it

and it just runs itself? And this wasn't

really possible in the summertime. It's

become more possible now. You can scale

this all the way up. So, you know, if

you have one agent that can manage

another agent, you can have an agent on

top that manages all of that. And this

is kind of what we we call super

optimization. And so here's how it would

work today with a system that was able

to have a manager agent as well as a

couple of lower level agents doing

things like code generation and browser

testing. So you take claude to write

your code, use browser base to run a

browser and then you deploy it with

something like Verscell and then you

manage that all together to be able to

develop products autonomously. This is

brand new. You guys are the first people

seeing this actually. Uh, our alpha

comes out today. This is the first fully

autonomous engineering department. It's

all in the cloud and it allows you to

build features, test them, deploy them,

manage infrastructure, and run a

software company autonomously. This is

our new product called co-founder CTO.

We've got a couple of other things

coming out later that we'll play on this

word, but you know, I have a co-founder

and CTO. You might notice this doesn't

really look like an assistant, right?

This is kind of like a canvas. And you

know what it does look like? It looks

like a video game. And that's what we've

developed it based on. We looked at

couple games like Starcraft and

Civilization. This has become a very

popular thing to talk about over the

last couple of weeks, but uh we were

doing this back in December. And you can

spin up an agent that will code a

feature and then it will go through the

entire life cycle of that feature and

then uh merge it automatically. So, I'm

going to take this one and I'm going to

copy it and we're going to show it from

scratch. So, you create a new task.

You've got your repository that you can

assign it to. So, I'm going to select

super optimizers, which is our our

current repository. And I'm going to say

make the blur on the canvas when a node

is selected a bit darker. This means

white overlay instead of instead of

white. We have a couple different ways

of doing this. I'm not very good at

specifying my tickets, but like my

co-founder Obby, who's much smarter than

I am, will write very long ones and

it'll have many of these going all day.

This is going to take a minute. It's

agents running. It's going to go and

it's going to start looking for

repositories and then it's going to

delegate to a coding agent and then that

coding agent is going to actually code

this feature. Now, it's run this coding

agent. I believe it's going to run

claude code. Um, and all this is in the

cloud. So you don't have to have a

computer locally. This is one of the

things that we decided we didn't want to

do. So I was trying to figure configure

cursor cloud agents and I wasn't able to

um because getting local development to

work on on their cloud agents is just

very broken. Okay, we've got cloud code

running here. Um and we decided that

since local development was really hard,

we would just get rid of it. CTO doesn't

use any local development at all. It

uses these things called preview

environments. Every time a coding agent

is spun up, it will make a PR and it

will send it to your repository and then

every PR is hosted like your production

and then it's put on on the web. So if

you have loginins for that, your agent

can then use the login there. There's no

local development at all. It all happens

in the cloud. Okay, so now we got cloud

code running. Now it's going it's

looking at different things. It's

looking at colors and when it's done

with this, it'll spin up a browser

agent. We have it so that every time

it's spin up, it spins up a browser. And

so I'll be able to show you that right

here. And this browser session all

happens automatically. So the agent goes

in, it logs in with your credentials.

And you can see this is like a little

version of your app that's running in

the cloud. And so we have this browser

agent go and test your feature. And this

one determined that it actually wasn't

able to ask the the completion. It said

it wasn't wasn't good enough. So, it

went back up to the browser agent and it

told it or it went back up to there,

told it to code something again and then

it did the browser agent again and then

it worked. Now, it's tested it. It

merges it successfully and that is now

in your app. Now, I don't have that much

time left so I'm going to show you some

of the other stuff as well. We've also

added infrastructure monitoring. All of

your infrastructure can be monitored by

CTO as well. So we also monitor

infrastructure and whenever something

happens, so we've got Verscell alerts

and Versell deployment failures, uh it

will spin up an agent automatically and

fix them so that you don't have to have

a uh a person monitoring this

infrastructure. And so you can now go

and ye features into your app and they

get merged automatically and you have

another agent that makes sure that your

app doesn't break. that that means you

can just send a bunch of features to

your app and develop at a very fast

speed. You can also monitor the

deployments here. Um spin up agents

below that. But yeah, so there's a

there's a quick demo of CTO. We'll have

a much slicker, cooler looking version

in a couple of weeks. Yeah. So it it

plans and delegates, uses coding agents,

uses Versell preview environments, and

then watches the deployment, then writes

a testing plan, uses a browser agent to

test, merges, and checks the

infrastructure. Yeah, like I mentioned,

our team is 400% faster compared to

before we launched this. So, we use this

internally. Um, this number is actually

out of date. We have an average of like

25 PRs per engineer per day. We've

started spending more on tokens than on

on salaries depending on the day.

Sometimes we'll spend like I don't know

like I think today we spent 4 grand on

tokens on Opus tokens. Some days it'll

be less. But this shows that we're

starting to shift our human capital to

intelligence. I just showed you how to

make products but that's not a whole

company, right? There's a couple other

pieces of a company that you need. Now,

some people disagree with us on that,

but we said you need to sell the

product, support the product, and

operate. And we're not just making an

engineering department. We're making

everything. So, this is what we're doing

in the next 6 months. Um, you'll be able

to try out co-founder CTO on it's I

don't know if we're going to make March

1st. We'll make like March 6th. Then

you'll have customer support so you can

build the product and support the

product. And then we'll have a full CRO.

uh revenue and sales stack by the

summer. Um so yeah, that's that's

everything for me. If you want to sign

up for the alpha, this QR code right

there, it'll give you a Google form.

We'll get you a login. We have to only

do a couple people at a time, but you

can get on by the end of the week if

you're really lucky. Yeah. Thanks

everyone.

[music]

Co-founder CTO:全自动化工程部门的诞生

Andrew 接着指出,一个强大的助手不是公司,并引出了他们对“什么是公司”的探索。他们提出了一个由四个核心环节组成的框架:创建产品(create a product)、销售产品(sell it)、支持产品(support it),以及运营(operate)。这个框架定义了一个完整的公司,而 General Intelligence Company 不仅限于构建工程部门,而是致力于实现完整的公司自动化。

他们最新推出的产品 Co-founder CTO,正是这一愿景的体现。它被描述为首个全自动化的工程部门,完全在云端运行,无需本地开发环境。Andrew 通过一个具体的演示展示了 Co-founder CTO 的强大能力:从一个简单的任务描述(“使画布上的节点被选中时变暗,意味着白色叠加而不是白色”),到选择存储库,Co-founder CTO 能够自主地分解任务,委托给 coding agent(如 Claude Code)进行代码生成。生成的代码通过预览环境(preview environments)自动创建 Pull Request (PR),并部署到 Web 上,如同生产环境一样。然后,Co-founder CTO生成测试计划,并使用 browser agent(浏览器 Agent)模拟用户操作来测试新功能。一旦测试通过,代码会被自动合并(merge)

此系统还集成了基础设施监控功能,能够自动检测并修复 Vercel 部署失败等问题。Andrew 强调,这种自动化能力极大地提升了开发速度(团队效率提升 400%),并促使人类资本向更智能、更具战略性的工作转移,甚至公司开始花费比薪资更多的费用在 AI Token 上。Co-founder CTO 被设计得像一个视频游戏界面,灵感来源于《星际争霸》和《文明》等游戏,它能够规划、委托、执行编码、测试、部署和监控整个软件生命周期,实现自主产品开发

Original English

And then we moved on to like how do we do what's

next which is step one and that's

creating a product and that's what I'm

going to show you guys today is kind of

some of our approaches there. Back in

the summertime we used co-founder to

make a version of fully automated

feature development. This was back like

two generations of models ago but we

were able to set up these automations

where let's say uh an email comes in

with a bug report or a feature. We can

pull in some data. We can make a report

on that and create a linear ticket to to

track the feature. Then we can use Slack

to kick off Devon to go code a fix and

then update the ticket when it's done.

And then we were able to hack together

this thing where we would generate a QA

test list to see how how do you test

this thing that you just got this report

on and then actually use a browser agent

to see if we could get it to work. And

so this was a way of going from, hey,

here's a bug report in an email all the

way to it's now coded and merged and you

have a browser that's using it. When we

started looking at this, we started

thinking about, okay, well, you you kind

of need a management layer. So, you need

a manager that looks over these things

like your product agent or your your

email agent or your your your coding

agent to be able to actually work on

these things, which is like, how do I

make the product better? How do I get it

to a system where there's no bugs in it

and it just runs itself? And this wasn't

really possible in the summertime. It's

become more possible now. You can scale

this all the way up. So, you know, if

you have one agent that can manage

another agent, you can have an agent on

top that manages all of that. And this

is kind of what we we call super

optimization. And so here's how it would

work today with a system that was able

to have a manager agent as well as a

couple of lower level agents doing

things like code generation and browser

testing. So you take claude to write

your code, use browser base to run a

browser and then you deploy it with

something like Verscell and then you

manage that all together to be able to

develop products autonomously. This is

brand new. You guys are the first people

seeing this actually. Uh, our alpha

comes out today. This is the first fully

autonomous engineering department. It's

all in the cloud and it allows you to

build features, test them, deploy them,

manage infrastructure, and run a

software company autonomously. This is

our new product called co-founder CTO.

We've got a couple of other things

coming out later that we'll play on this

word, but you know, I have a co-founder

and CTO. You might notice this doesn't

really look like an assistant, right?

This is kind of like a canvas. And you

know what it does look like? It looks

like a video game. And that's what we've

developed it based on. We looked at

couple games like Starcraft and

Civilization. This has become a very

popular thing to talk about over the

last couple of weeks, but uh we were

doing this back in December. And you can

spin up an agent that will code a

feature and then it will go through the

entire life cycle of that feature and

then uh merge it automatically. So, I'm

going to take this one and I'm going to

copy it and we're going to show it from

scratch. So, you create a new task.

You've got your repository that you can

assign it to. So, I'm going to select

super optimizers, which is our our

current repository. And I'm going to say

make the blur on the canvas when a node

is selected a bit darker. This means

white overlay instead of instead of

white. We have a couple different ways

of doing this. I'm not very good at

specifying my tickets, but like my

co-founder Obby, who's much smarter than

I am, will write very long ones and

it'll have many of these going all day.

This is going to take a minute. It's

agents running. It's going to go and

it's going to start looking for

repositories and then it's going to

delegate to a coding agent and then that

coding agent is going to actually code

this feature. Now, it's run this coding

agent. I believe it's going to run

claude code. Um, and all this is in the

cloud. So you don't have to have a

computer locally. This is one of the

things that we decided we didn't want to

do. So I was trying to figure configure

cursor cloud agents and I wasn't able to

um because getting local development to

work on on their cloud agents is just

very broken. Okay, we've got cloud code

running here. Um and we decided that

since local development was really hard,

we would just get rid of it. CTO doesn't

use any local development at all. It

uses these things called preview

environments. Every time a coding agent

is spun up, it will make a PR and it

will send it to your repository and then

every PR is hosted like your production

and then it's put on on the web. So if

you have loginins for that, your agent

can then use the login there. There's no

local development at all. It all happens

in the cloud. Okay, so now we got cloud

code running. Now it's going it's

looking at different things. It's

looking at colors and when it's done

with this, it'll spin up a browser

agent. We have it so that every time

it's spin up, it spins up a browser. And

so I'll be able to show you that right

here. And this browser session all

happens automatically. So the agent goes

in, it logs in with your credentials.

And you can see this is like a little

version of your app that's running in

the cloud. And so we have this browser

agent go and test your feature. And this

one determined that it actually wasn't

able to ask the the completion. It said

it wasn't wasn't good enough. So, it

went back up to the browser agent and it

told it or it went back up to there,

told it to code something again and then

it did the browser agent again and then

it worked. Now, it's tested it. It

merges it successfully and that is now

in your app. Now, I don't have that much

time left so I'm going to show you some

of the other stuff as well. We've also

added infrastructure monitoring. All of

your infrastructure can be monitored by

CTO as well. So we also monitor

infrastructure and whenever something

happens, so we've got Verscell alerts

and Versell deployment failures, uh it

will spin up an agent automatically and

fix them so that you don't have to have

a uh a person monitoring this

infrastructure. And so you can now go

and ye features into your app and they

get merged automatically and you have

another agent that makes sure that your

app doesn't break. that that means you

can just send a bunch of features to

your app and develop at a very fast

speed. You can also monitor the

deployments here. Um spin up agents

below that. But yeah, so there's a

there's a quick demo of CTO. We'll have

a much slicker, cooler looking version

in a couple of weeks. Yeah. So it it

plans and delegates, uses coding agents,

uses Versell preview environments, and

then watches the deployment, then writes

a testing plan, uses a browser agent to

test, merges, and checks the

infrastructure. Yeah, like I mentioned,

our team is 400% faster compared to

before we launched this. So, we use this

internally. Um, this number is actually

out of date. We have an average of like

25 PRs per engineer per day. We've

started spending more on tokens than on

on salaries depending on the day.

Sometimes we'll spend like I don't know

like I think today we spent 4 grand on

tokens on Opus tokens. Some days it'll

be less. But this shows that we're

starting to shift our human capital to

intelligence. I just showed you how to

make products but that's not a whole

company, right? There's a couple other

pieces of a company that you need. Now,

some people disagree with us on that,

but we said you need to sell the

product, support the product, and

operate. And we're not just making an

engineering department. We're making

everything. So, this is what we're doing

in the next 6 months. Um, you'll be able

to try out co-founder CTO on it's I

don't know if we're going to make March

1st. We'll make like March 6th. Then

you'll have customer support so you can

build the product and support the

product. And then we'll have a full CRO.

uh revenue and sales stack by the

summer. Um so yeah, that's that's

everything for me. If you want to sign

up for the alpha, this QR code right

there, it'll give you a Google form.

We'll get you a login. We have to only

do a couple people at a time, but you

can get on by the end of the week if

you're really lucky. Yeah. Thanks

everyone.

[music]

未来展望:构建完整的自动化公司生态

Andrew 总结道,Co-founder CTO 代表了全自动化工程部门的实现,它能够处理从需求、编码、测试、部署到基础设施监控的整个软件生命周期。然而,他再次强调,这仅仅是构建一个完整公司的一个重要环节。公司由**创建产品(create a product)、销售产品(sell it)、支持产品(support it)以及运营(operate)**这四个核心部分组成。

展望未来六个月,General Intelligence Company 的计划是扩展其自动化能力,覆盖公司的其他关键领域。他们将推出客户支持功能,使得公司能够构建产品并同时获得支持。随后,他们还将构建一个完整的 CRO(Chief Revenue Officer),即营收和销售技术栈,从而实现公司运营的全面自动化。Andrew 鼓励观众注册 Co-founder CTO 的 Alpha 测试,并提供了获取登录信息的二维码。他表示,尽管目前只能逐步开放给少数用户,但通过努力,用户有望在不久的将来体验到这一革命性的自动化工具。

Original English

And then we decided we didn't want to

do. So I was trying to figure configure

cursor cloud agents and I wasn't able to

um because getting local development to

work on on their cloud agents is just

very broken. Okay, we've got cloud code

running here. Um and we decided that

since local development was really hard,

we would just get rid of it. CTO doesn't

use any local development at all. It

uses these things called preview

environments. Every time a coding agent

is spun up, it will make a PR and it

will send it to your repository and then

every PR is hosted like your production

and then it's put on on the web. So if

you have loginins for that, your agent

can then use the login there. There's no

local development at all. It all happens

in the cloud. Okay, so now we got cloud

code running. Now it's going it's

looking at different things. It's

looking at colors and when it's done

with this, it'll spin up a browser

agent. We have it so that every time

it's spin up, it spins up a browser. And

so I'll be able to show you that right

here. And this browser session all

happens automatically. So the agent goes

in, it logs in with your credentials.

And you can see this is like a little

version of your app that's running in

the cloud. And so we have this browser

agent go and test your feature. And this

one determined that it actually wasn't

able to ask the the completion. It said

it wasn't wasn't good enough. So, it

went back up to the browser agent and it

told it or it went back up to there,

told it to code something again and then

it did the browser agent again and then

it worked. Now, it's tested it. It

merges it successfully and that is now

in your app. Now, I don't have that much

time left so I'm going to show you some

of the other stuff as well. We've also

added infrastructure monitoring. All of

your infrastructure can be monitored by

CTO as well. So we also monitor

infrastructure and whenever something

happens, so we've got Verscell alerts

and Versell deployment failures, uh it

will spin up an agent automatically and

fix them so that you don't have to have

a uh a person monitoring this

infrastructure. And so you can now go

and ye features into your app and they

get merged automatically and you have

another agent that makes sure that your

app doesn't break. that that means you

can just send a bunch of features to

your app and develop at a very fast

speed. You can also monitor the

deployments here. Um spin up agents

below that. But yeah, so there's a

there's a quick demo of CTO. We'll have

a much slicker, cooler looking version

in a couple of weeks. Yeah. So it it

plans and delegates, uses coding agents,

uses Versell preview environments, and

then watches the deployment, then writes

a testing plan, uses a browser agent to

test, merges, and checks the

infrastructure. Yeah, like I mentioned,

our team is 400% faster compared to

before we launched this. So, we use this

internally. Um, this number is actually

out of date. We have an average of like

25 PRs per engineer per day. We've

started spending more on tokens than on

on salaries depending on the day.

Sometimes we'll spend like I don't know

like I think today we spent 4 grand on

tokens on Opus tokens. Some days it'll

be less. But this shows that we're

starting to shift our human capital to

intelligence. I just showed you how to

make products but that's not a whole

company, right? There's a couple other

pieces of a company that you need. Now,

some people disagree with us on that,

but we said you need to sell the

product, support the product, and

operate. And we're not just making an

engineering department. We're making

everything. So, this is what we're doing

in the next 6 months. Um, you'll be able

to try out co-founder CTO on it's I

don't know if we're going to make March

1st. We'll make like March 6th. Then

you'll have customer support so you can

build the product and support the

product. And then we'll have a full CRO.

uh revenue and sales stack by the

summer. Um so yeah, that's that's

everything for me. If you want to sign

up for the alpha, this QR code right

there, it'll give you a Google form.

We'll get you a login. We have to only

do a couple people at a time, but you

can get on by the end of the week if

you're really lucky. Yeah. Thanks

everyone.

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📌 文中提及的人物和组织

公司/组织: General Intelligence Company

产品/模型: Co-founder CTO, Co-founder

关键字: ai-agents autonomous-development startup-scaling future-of-work