安大略省新学年教育巨变:校董会削权、考勤挂钩成绩与校车危机 TVO Today 2026-09-09

安省教育新学期变革

Jeyan Jeganathan: 今天,安大略省部分地区的孩子们正重返校园,但他们所回归的教育体系,与今年六月份离开时相比已经大不相同。与此同时,劳资谈判也在幕后紧锣密鼓地进行。那么究竟发生了什么变化?是否有可能出现罢工?我是 Jeyan Jeganathan,这里是《The Rundown》开学特别版。

自教师工会上一次坐在谈判桌前以来,安大略省政府对全省的教育体系进行了重大调整,改变了谁来管理校董会、校董(Trustees)的职权范围,甚至改变了课堂内部的一些规则。但要理解我们是如何走到这一步的,我们需要稍微把时钟往回拨一点。

2025年4月,教育部长 Paul Calandra布兰特哈尔迪曼德诺福克天主教区校董会(Brent Haldimand Norfolk Catholic District School Board)置于省政府的直接监督之下。此前一项调查发现,四名学校校董在前往意大利为新学校采购艺术品的行程中,报销了超过14万加元的费用。但这仅仅是个开始。

在接下来的这一年里,教育部长将代表安省近40%学生的其他八个校董会置于省府监管之下,同时削减了这些校董会中校董的职权。随后在2026年4月,政府更进一步,推出了《学生成就优先法案》(Putting Student Achievement First Act),大幅削弱了全省所有校董的权力,限制了他们的支出和薪酬,甚至削减了部分校董会的校董席位。

这在教师坐在谈判桌前时至关重要。通常情况下,校董也会出席谈判,但该法案剥夺了他们的权力。在谈判方面,该法案还在全省所有英语学区校董会设立了新的首席执行官(CEO),取代了原有的教育局长(School Board Directors)。

改革并不仅限于校董会办公室。课堂内部也有了新规:学生的出勤率和课堂参与度现在将计入成绩。该法案还强制要求进行期末笔试,笔试将占学生最终成绩的20%至25%。所以,确实发生了巨大的变化,而这些变化全都发生在全省教师处于劳资谈判的背景之下。为了帮助我们了解目前的局势以及接下来的走向,我们邀请到了《多伦多星报》(Toronto Star)的教育记者 Kristin Rushowy

Original English

Jeyan Jeganathan: Kids across parts of Ontario are heading back to school today, but they're returning to an education system that looks pretty different from the one they left in June. And in the background, Labour negotiations are underway. So what's changed? And could a strike be on the horizon? I'm Jeyan Jeganathan and this is The Rundown. Back to School Edition.

Since the teachers unions were last at the bargaining table, the Ontario government has made some major modifications to the province's education system, changing who runs school boards, what trustees can even do, and even some of the rules inside the classroom. But to understand how we got here, we need to wind back the clock just a little.

In April 2025, Education Minister Paul Calandra placed the Brent Haldimand Norfolk Catholic District School Board under the province's oversight. That came after an investigation found four school trustees racked up over $140,000 in expenses on a trip to Italy to buy art for new schools. But that was just the beginning.

In the year that followed, the minister put eight other school boards, which represents nearly 40% of students in Ontario under provincial supervision, while at the same time reducing the role of trustees in those boards. Then, in April 2026, the government went even further. It introduced the Putting Student Achievement First Act, significantly reducing the role of all trustees across the province, limiting their spending and compensation, and even cutting the number of trustees in some boards.

And that matters with teachers sitting at the bargaining table. Normally, trustees would be there as well, but the changes in the act stripped them of power. When it comes to those negotiations, the act also brought in new CEOs at all English language school boards across the province, replacing school board directors.

And the changes don't stop at the board office. There are new rules inside the classroom to student attendance and participation. Now factor into grades. The act also mandates end of term written exams, which will now count for 20 or 25% of a student's final grade. So yeah, there have been a lot of changes and they're all happening as teachers in the province are in the middle of labour negotiations to help us understand where things stand and what could happen next. I'm joined by Toronto Star education reporter Kristin Rushowy.

Kristin Rushowy: 你好,感谢邀请我。

Original English

Kristin Rushowy: Hi. Thanks for having me.

劳资谈判与罢工隐忧

Jeyan Jeganathan: 感谢你抽出时间。显然,对很多人来说九月非常忙碌,但对于身处谈判漩涡中的教育记者来说更是格外繁忙。在我们开始之前,出于透明度原则,我想先声明一下,TVO 属于安大略省教育部旗下的省级机构。那么,教育工会的合同已于8月31日到期,目前的谈判进展到了什么地步?

Original English

Jeyan Jeganathan: I appreciate you taking the time. Obviously, it's a busy time for a lot of people in September, but very busy for an education reporter in the midst of negotiations. So before we begin, I do want to mention, in the interest of transparency, we want to note that TVO is a provincial agency that falls under the umbrella of Ontario's Ministry of Education. Now, with that, the contract talks with education unions expired August 31st. Where do negotiations stand today?

Kristin Rushowy: 实际上,完全没有进展。双方早在六月份就开始谈判了,安大略省的教育集体谈判机制是两级谈判制(Two-tier system)。也就是说,在省级层面,由省政府、今年新加入的安大略省教育局长委员会(Council of Ontario Directors of Education, CODE)以及工会的省级谈判单位进行谈判。

他们一直在尝试敲定哪些议题应该在这个中央谈判桌上处理。工会表示,省府正试图将更多议题塞进中央谈判桌,因此工会已经向安大略省劳资关系委员会(Ontario Labour Relations Board)申请裁决。所以目前一切都处于停滞悬置状态。

Original English

Kristin Rushowy: Well, nowhere actually. The parties started negotiating back in June, and the bargaining system in Ontario for education is arranged. It's two tier so that there's a provincial level of talks between the provincial government. This year, the Council of Ontario Directors of Education and the provincial bargaining units for the unions. So what they've been trying to do is hammer out what issues to handle there. The unions say that the province is trying to add more issues to that central table, and they've appealed to the Labour board to rule. So we're in limbo right now.

Jeyan Jeganathan: 当我们谈到这个实质上的谈判桌时,双方分别是谁?一端是省政府,另一端是谁?

Original English

Jeyan Jeganathan: When we talk about essentially that bargaining table, who are the two sides? So we've got the province on one end. Who's on the other end.

Kristin Rushowy: 我们的一端是省政府。今年有一个新变化,就是加入了安大略省教育局长委员会。省府把他们拉到了谈判桌前,理由是他们处于校董会的第一线。过去,坐在谈判桌前的是校董会协会或校董协会。这是我们今年看到的一个改变。

在另一端则是工会。这里有代表公立小学、公立高中、天主教以及法语学校的各大教师工会。当然还有代表学校后勤支持人员的 CUPE(加拿大公共雇员工会),以及其他代表支持人员的较小工会。但在教育行业集体谈判中,我们主要谈论的就是这五大工会。

Original English

Kristin Rushowy: So we have the province on one end. And this year, which is new, is we have the Council of Ontario Directors of Education. The province added them to the table, saying that, you know, they're on the front lines with the school boards. In the past, it's been the school board associations or the trustee associations who've been at the table. So that is one change that we see this year. On the other side, we've got the unions. So there are the big teacher unions representing public, elementary, public secondary, French Catholic. And then we've got, of course, CUPE, which represents support workers. And there are various other smaller unions that also represent support workers. But it's sort of the big five that we talk about most, mostly when we talk about the unions in the education bargaining.

两级谈判机制与争议

Jeyan Jeganathan: 谈到这种两级谈判体系,以及哪些诉求应该集中在中央层面讨论、哪些应该留在地方层面处理,请帮我们梳理一下,目前横亘在双方之间的主要分歧是什么?

Original English

Jeyan Jeganathan: Now, when we talk about the two tier system and the sort of wants and needs of being more central and what needs to be discussed at local. Help us understand what are the main issues still separating the two sides.

Kristin Rushowy: 通常在中央谈判桌上,由于省政府掌握着财政资金大权、手握预算,因此他们主要处理薪资、工作环境、福利等重大资金议题。而工会表示,省政府现在还想将病假条要求、超额裁员通知、冗员流程及时间安排等事项纳入中央谈判。

工会认为这些事项由地方层面处理更为合适,因为多伦多的校董会与北湾(North Bay)或安省北部的校董会情况大不相同。他们还指责省政府企图借此集中权力、进行权力收割。

Original English

Kristin Rushowy: So typically at the central table, because the provincial government holds the funding purse strings, it's got the money. It you know, they deal with the big money issues, salary, working conditions, benefits and things like that. And the unions are saying that the government now wants to handle things like sick notes, surplus layoff, redundancy notices, timing and processes and things like that. So they say these are things that are better handled locally because, you know, a board in Toronto is different than a board in, let's say, North Bay or northern Ontario. And they're also accusing the province of sort of trying to centralise a power grab.

Jeyan Jeganathan: 工会主张将这些事项保留在地方层面的核心论点是什么?

Original English

Jeyan Jeganathan: What does the unions argue in terms of wanting those to be more at the local level? What's their argument there?

Kristin Rushowy: 工会的论点在于“一刀切”行不通。另一个论点是,他们认为省府试图在教育领域集权并掌控更多权力。而省政府则表示,他们希望在全省各校董会的多个事项上保持一致性,这就是他们的初衷。僵局就产生于此。

Original English

Kristin Rushowy: You know, the argument is that, you know, one size doesn't fit all. The other argument is that they think the province is trying to take control, centralise more power when it comes to education. You know, the province will say that they would like consistency across, you know, boards for a number of items, and that's why they're doing it. So, you know, that's where the impasse is.

Jeyan Jeganathan: 作为一名教育记者,你报道过多次劳资谈判。与往年相比,我们现在看到的情况有何不同?

Original English

Jeyan Jeganathan: You have covered a number of bargaining and negotiations at your time, in your time as an education reporter. How different is what we're seeing now compared to to years previous?

Kristin Rushowy: 在没有新合同的情况下开启新学年并不罕见。在我报道教育新闻的整个职业生涯中,我几乎不记得有哪一次双方能在8月31日之前顺利达成协议。

但这一次的不同之处在于,双方根本没有开展过任何实质性的谈判。在整个夏季,绝大多数工会因为谈判议题的归属问题陷入了僵局,随后诉诸劳资关系委员会。从那以后基本没有任何实质进展。因此对我而言,真正的不同在于:我们在双方完全没有开展实质对话的情况下直接跨入了新学年。

Original English

Kristin Rushowy: You know, it's not unusual to start a school year without a contract. I actually can't remember a time having covered education. As long as I have that. The sides did come to an agreement by August 31st. What is different this time is that they haven't really had any meaningful negotiations. I mean, the summer, you know, they came to the impasse over the summer. Most of the unions did over the issues to be discussed, went off to the Labour Relations Board. And nothing's really happened since. So that to me is the difference that we're entering the school year without having had any meaningful conversations between the two sides.

Jeyan Jeganathan: 我们知道工会原本希望尽早开启谈判对话,从而防止陷入这种境地。但目前五大教育工作者工会都已向劳资委员会提请争议仲裁。请解释一下他们为什么这么做?

Original English

Jeyan Jeganathan: Now, we know that the unions wanted to start this conversation. The negotiations early, hoping to essentially prevent something like this. But the five education worker unions have also now put a dispute before the Labour board. Help us understand a little bit why did they do that?

Kristin Rushowy: 纯粹是因为他们无法与省政府就中央谈判桌的讨论议题达成一致。关于哪些内容应在中央处理、哪些应在地方处理,历来都有一些拉锯。工会今年感到政府在过度干预那些理应由地方校董会和地方工会处理的领域。

这就是双方无法达成任何共识的分歧所在。例如,安大略省天主教教师协会(Ontario English Catholic Teachers' Association)谈得稍微久一些,他们的谈判日程一直持续到8月底,最后他们也表示无法达成一致,同样诉诸劳资委员会。因此,基本上所有教育工会现在都在等待劳资委员会的裁决。

Original English

Kristin Rushowy: You know, it's just because they couldn't come to an agreement with the provincial government about what to discuss at the central tables. I mean, there's always a bit of back and forth on this, what should be handled centrally and what should be handled locally. The unions feel this year that the government is overreaching into areas, that they feel that local boards and union locals would best handle. And that's that's where we've come to this disagreement between the two sides, that they could not reach any agreement on, you know, the Ontario Catholic Teachers, for example. They bargained a little bit longer. Their bargaining dates actually went until the end of August. And they to say, look, we couldn't come to any agreement on this. We're also going to the Labour board. So I think we've got pretty much all the education unions now waiting on a Labour board ruling.

Jeyan Jeganathan: 在等待劳资委员会裁决期间,是否仍有可能举行罢工投票(Strike vote)?

Original English

Jeyan Jeganathan: Could a strike vote still happen while we wait for the Labour board?

Kristin Rushowy: 是的,我认为这正是接下来的步骤。工会正在计划一些校内行动日,例如穿同款T恤或佩戴徽章等,工会领袖也可能会接受媒体采访。罢工投票将是我们接下来会看到的事情。他们在法律上有权这样做。不过距离实际的罢工行动还有一段时间,因为他们必须先组织罢工投票,在此之后还有一系列法定程序。

Original English

Kristin Rushowy: Yes. And I do think that's sort of the next step. We'll see. The unions are planning a few in school days of action. You know where they might wear similar t shirts or buttons and things like that. And the union leaders may talk to the media, but. Yes. So I think strike votes will be the next thing we see. They are legally allowed to do that, and there won't be any job action for some time though, because they do have to arrange the strike votes. And then there are a number of other steps before we could see any job action.

Jeyan Jeganathan: 话说回来,教师、家长和学生在新学年伊始并不希望头顶笼罩着潜在的罢工阴云。但如果数周或数月之后仍未达成协议,可能会出现什么样的罢工行动?

Original English

Jeyan Jeganathan: Well, with that being said, teachers, parents, students don't necessarily want to be thinking or having this sort of, you know, potential strike cloud hanging over them as they start a new school year. But what kind of strike action, if we're talking weeks, months down the line, could happen if a deal isn't reached?

Kristin Rushowy: 通常情况下,教师不会一开始就采取全面罢工。我们首先会看到按章工作(Work-to-rule),通常是在行政管理层面。过去我记得比如他们不把出勤表交到办公室等,这种做法会给行政系统带来麻烦,但不会真正影响家长和学生。

此后的升级行动可能包括取消课外活动、不在成绩单上写评语,甚至曾经出现过取消下班后的家长会等。最后才会发展到轮流罢工(Rotating strikes),而非直接全面罢工。

Original English

Kristin Rushowy: Well, I mean, typically, you know, teachers don't go full throttle into strikes. We see things like work to rule. Typically administrative. You know, in the past I can think that they haven't, you know, they won't take attendance sheets down to the office, things like that, things that kind of, you know, gum up the system, but don't really affect parents and students, you know, escalations from there can include no extracurriculars. We've seen no comments on report cards. I think at one point there were no parent teacher interviews after hours for report cards and things like that. And then then you get to usually. Rouge Park strikes as opposed to full out strikes.

出勤率挂钩期末成绩

Jeyan Jeganathan: 刚才你提到了出勤,本学年系统进行了几项改革,出勤就是其中之一,它将直接计入高中阶段的成绩。对于什么样的无故旷课会影响学生的分数,是否有明确的界定规则?教育部长 Paul Calandra 上周在新闻发布会上谈到了这一点,但似乎仍存在一些不确定性。

Original English

Jeyan Jeganathan: Now you mentioned attendance, so I do have to ask there as this school year, there was a number of questions about a few changes that have been made to the system, attendance being one of them. It will factor into high school grades this year. Are there clear rules around what counts as an unexcused absence that might affect a student's mark? You know, the minister, Minister Paul Calandra, was at a press conference last week and was talking a little bit about it, and there was still some uncertainty.

Paul Calandra: 这项政策并不是针对那些忙碌且积极正向的孩子。它的真正目的在于针对那些没有获得家长请假批准的孩子,有时家长甚至不知道孩子逃课了。这才是这项政策的针对对象。归根结底,你必须到场并参与其中。

Original English

Paul Calandra: This isn't targeting those. Those kids who are busy and are doing the right thing. What this is about is about those kids who don't have an excused absence from their parents, who sometimes their parents don't even know that they're not, that they're skipping a class. That's what this is, is, is targeted towards. But ultimately you have to participate and you have to be there.

Jeyan Jeganathan: 希望你能帮我们进一步厘清这方面的细节。

Original English

Jeyan Jeganathan: I'm hoping you can help clarify a little bit about that.

Kristin Rushowy: 我认为目前确实存在一些困惑,但省政府目前的口径是:体育活动、课外活动甚至是大家庭的长假依然是允许的。校长对于长假等特殊情况依然拥有最终裁量权。但总体而言,省府表示这些常规方面不会改变。

将要改变的是:高中学生的出勤率现在直接与分数挂钩。在9年级和10年级,出勤和参与度占最终成绩的15%,其逻辑在于,如果你不出勤,你就无法参与;而在11年级和12年级,每门课程的出勤参与占比为10%。这就是目前的规定。

我们听到校长协会提出抗议,表示在制定该政策时省府并未向他们咨询。他们需要明确性,因为与学生家庭打交道非常复杂,他们需要关于如何在基层落地执行的具体细节。校长们正试图在下周或再下一周与部长会面,因为高中的期中考试11月就会到来,他们并没有太多时间来理顺这一切。

Original English

Kristin Rushowy: I think we are seeing a little bit of uncertainty about it, but the message from the provincial government now is things like sports, extracurriculars, even family, extended family vacations can still be allowed. The principal still does have the final say on extended vacations and things like that. But in general, they say things at that end are not going to change. What is going to change is attendance for high school students is now tied to marks. So in grades nine and ten, it's 15% of a final grade. It's attendance and participation, right? With the thinking being, if you're not attending, you're also not participating. And then in grades 11 and 12, it would be 10% for every course. So that's the rule. I mean, we've, you know, seen and heard from principals organisations who said we were not consulted on this. We need some clarity. It's very complex dealing with families. And we just need a little bit some more details about how to handle this on the ground. And I think they are trying to meet with the minister either next week or the week after, you know, because in high schools, midterms come, what, November? So they don't really have a lot of time to sort this out.

Jeyan Jeganathan: 显然,这项政策源于对安省学校出勤率下降的担忧。你能提供一些背景信息吗?教师和学校管理者当时看到的出勤率数据究竟是怎样的?

Original English

Jeyan Jeganathan: And obviously, this change came from concerns about attendance rates in Ontario schools. Can you give us a little background on that? What were teachers and administrators seeing when it came to attendance rates?

Kristin Rushowy: 教育部长 Paul Calandra 表示,这项新政策源于教师们对大量学生缺课的深切担忧。原因当然多种多样,尤其是在疫情之后。大约有40%的高中生未达到出勤标准,这意味着他们缺课约17天。

这是很大一部分没有来上学的学生群体。缺勤率在疫情期间明显上升,此后并未真正回落。不过,许多人主张应该采用不同于惩罚性的手段来解决这个问题,这也是我们从校长那里听到的声音。

Original English

Kristin Rushowy: Yeah. Well, this new policy, the Education Minister, Paul Callander, has said this came from teachers who were concerned about the number of students who weren't showing up for school. I mean, the reasons are myriad. You know, we've especially post Covid. So I think about 40% of students in high school aren't meeting the attendance standards, which is, you know, about 17 days of school missed. So it's a huge number of students who aren't coming to school. It increased during Covid, obviously, but hasn't really gone down since. But, you know, they say maybe let's address this a little bit differently than being punitive. And that's another message that we're hearing from the principals as well.

Jeyan Jeganathan: 我们了解了管理者、教师和政府的态度,那么家长和学生又是怎么看待的?

Original English

Jeyan Jeganathan: Well, I'm curious, we've got administrators, teachers, government covered. What are parents and students saying?

Kristin Rushowy: 他们感到非常困惑。尤其是对于11和12年级的学生来说,分数上的差距至关重要。比如,如果你因为未经批准的缺勤缺席超过2.5节课,在该课程的这一评估项上,你的成绩就会从Level 4(A等级)跌到Level 3(B等级)。

这一等级差距可能直接决定了你能否被大学里竞争激烈的专业录取。因此存在大量的疑问。家长们正指望校董会给出解释,而校董会现在正指望省政府提供指导和协助。

Original English

Kristin Rushowy: Well, I think it's just confusion because, you know, especially for students in grade 11 and 12, you know, the difference in marks, you know, if you miss more than 2.5 classes, for example, for an unauthorised absence, you know, that's the difference between a level four, which is a, an, an A and a level three, which is a B, and that area of your mark for that class. So that can be the difference between getting into a competitive program at a university or not. So there's a lot of, you know, I think a lot of questions. Parents are looking to boards to provide that. I think the boards are now looking to the province to help them out a little bit on that.

教师用品补贴与问题

Jeyan Jeganathan: 今年给教师工具箱里增加的另一项工具是教具采购门户网站。教育部为每位教师提供了750加元的耗材津贴,以帮助他们购买教室所需的物资。关于获取课堂物资的渠道以及该采购平台遇到的挑战,我们从教育工作者那里听到了什么?

Original English

Jeyan Jeganathan: Another sort of tool in the tool belt that teachers were given this year was essentially a supply portal, $750 that the ministry had given teachers to help get materials that they needed in their classroom. What are we hearing from educators about access to classroom supplies and any challenges they're facing with that portal?

Kristin Rushowy: 该门户网站于9月1日上线。对于大多数学区而言——虽然有些地方本周已经开学,但大部分是在下周开学。因此,我们听到的第一个顾虑就是这开通得太晚了,老师们担心物资能否及时送达。

门户网站开通后,教师们几乎立刻发现,该平台上的部分商品标价比 Staples(该项目的指定零售合作商)的普通零售价还要贵。省政府回应称,他们有一份200种核心商品的清单,这些商品绝对是全网最低价;如果其他商品价格偏高,政府正考虑将其纳入核心清单以降低价格。

Staples 也发表声明称,如果教师发现平台上的商品比实体店或其官网更贵,他们将提供价格匹配(Price Match)。但这些就是让人沮丧的地方。作为一个新项目,难免会出现摩擦,部长也承认了这一点。

Original English

Kristin Rushowy: Well, the portal opened on September the 1st, and for most boards, I mean, some boards kids are back at school this week. Most start next week. So I think the first concern we heard was this is coming kind of late. You know, they're wondering if the deliveries will happen in time. But anyway, so the portal is open September 1st. And what we heard almost right away from teachers is that they were finding that some items were more expensive on the portal than they were either retail at staples, which is the vendor for this program. The provincial government has said, we have a list of 200 core items. Those are definitely the lowest prices you're going to find anywhere. If there are other things that are more expensive, we're looking to add them so that they prices will come down on those as well. Staples also has said that, you know, look, teachers, if you find items that are more expensive than they are in store or on our regular website, we will price match. But I think these are kind of the frustrations. It's a new program and obviously they're going to be hiccups. And the minister has acknowledged that.

Jeyan Jeganathan: 就教师真正能采购的物品而言,主要包括哪些?

Original English

Jeyan Jeganathan: In terms of the items actually available to teachers, what are we talking about here?

Kristin Rushowy: 包括马克笔、纸张、抽纸等基础课堂用品,还有一些收纳柜等用具。正如你提到的,每位教师的支出账户额度为750加元。其中大约一半来自学校现有的预算,另一半由省政府直接提供。

教育部长表示,他们倾听了教师的心声,教师们过去确实自掏腰包花了很多钱来布置教室。所以在这一点上这项补贴是受欢迎的,但系统中的这些漏洞在此期间必须得到解决。

Original English

Kristin Rushowy: Oh, we're talking about things like, you know, markers, paper, Kleenex, you know, things like that, kind of the basic classroom supplies. And I think there's some storage units and things like that as well. You know, the teachers, the spending account is $750, as you mentioned. About half of that is coming from, you know, the existing school budget and the provincial government's providing the other half. So, you know, the minister said, look, we heard from teachers. Teachers do spend a lot of money out of pocket stocking their classrooms. So I think on that front, it is welcome. But I think, you know, these kind of bugs in the system need to be worked out. In the meantime.

Jeyan Jeganathan: 从教育部和部长的立场来看,因为该系统上周才刚上线,必定会出现一些小毛病和调整,这也是我从早前发布会上了解到的信息。

Original English

Jeyan Jeganathan: And I understanding from the, the ministry standpoint and from the minister, you know, because this is sort of, you know, launched only last week that, you know, there are going to be some glitches, there are going to be some some changes as they make. That's kind of what I gathered from from earlier pressers as well.

Kristin Rushowy: 是的,他前几天就是这么说的。他表示系统并不完美,但他们正在努力改进并添加更多商品。Staples 也发布声明呼吁教师联系专属服务热线反馈价格差异。但教师们的反弹在于:他们根本没有时间去处理这些繁琐的比价流程。

Original English

Kristin Rushowy: Yes. That's what he said the other day. And he said, look, it's not it's not perfect. Right? But, you know, we're working on it. We're going to add more items. And then staples did send out its own statement saying, please reach out to us. We've got a dedicated line. Let us know about the pricing. You know, I mean, I think the the pushback from teachers has been we don't have time to do that.

Jeyan Jeganathan: 在接下来的几周里,家长们应该重点关注什么?

Original English

Jeyan Jeganathan: What should parents be watching for in the coming weeks?

Kristin Rushowy: 基本上是观望和等待。等待劳资委员会的裁决,然后看谈判如何展开。工会方面已经表示不会立即采取罢工行动。我与后勤支持员工工会的负责人交谈过,他说如果到了2027年3月仍未开展任何实质性谈判,整个局势将会完全不同。

对于家长而言,目前主要是静观其变,等待劳资委员会的结果。至于其他变化,比如新课程体系以及考勤新规,高中生的家长应该密切留意学校和校长发来的通知,了解具体如何实施以及对孩子意味着什么。一切依然取决于劳资委员会的裁决。

Original English

Kristin Rushowy: Yeah, I mean, it's kind of watching and waiting, right? You're just waiting for the Labour board to rule and then to see how negotiations go. I mean, we've heard from the unions, they said no job action right away. I spoke with the head of the support staff union and he said, look, if we hit 2027, if we hit March 2027 and we've not had any meaningful negotiations, you know, this landscape is going to look a lot different. So I think for now, for parents, it's mostly just watching and waiting. Wait for the labour board, see how things progress from there. And in terms of the other changes, I mean, you know, there's some new curriculum coming in the attendance thing. Yes. I think parents, especially of high schoolers, should be keeping an eye out for notes from their school, from their principal, as to how this is going to roll out and what it's going to mean for their kids. Again, it's just the labour board. It's all hinging on what the Labour board rules.

Jeyan Jeganathan: 所以可以客观地说,这种情况可能会持续贯穿整个学年。

Original English

Jeyan Jeganathan: So fair to say this might carry on well into the school year.

Kristin Rushowy: 是的,很有可能。

Original English

Kristin Rushowy: Yes, it might.

Jeyan Jeganathan: Kristin,我们今天的讨论就到这里,非常感谢你接受采访。

Original English

Jeyan Jeganathan: Chris, we're going to leave it there. I really appreciate you taking the time. Thank you so much.

Kristin Rushowy: 非常感谢。

Original English

Kristin Rushowy: Thank you very much.

校车资金模式与危机

Jeyan Jeganathan: 对于安大略省的一些家庭来说,受影响的不仅仅是课堂内部。由于影响校车服务的新交通指南出台,一些家庭正陷入如何送孩子上学的困境。

Kaylie,非常感谢你加入我们的节目。你弟弟 Joshua 开学已经一周了,你处在一个非常特殊的情况中:你承担起了接送他上下学的责任。我想知道,他第一周的情况是怎样的?

Original English

Jeyan Jeganathan: For some families in Ontario, changes won't just be hitting the classroom because of new transportation guidelines that impact school buses. Some are scrambling to figure out how their kids will even get to school. Kaylie, thank you so much for joining us. It's been one week since school started for your brother, Joshua, and you're in a unique situation. You are you've taken the responsibility of getting him to and from school. I am curious, what has it been like on his first week?

Kaylie: 感谢今天邀请我。这一周过得手忙脚乱,我们要在各自的工作时间表之间协调,确保准时把他送到校车站,然后还要去接他。幸运的是在我工作的地方,他有时可以被顺路送过去,但并非总是如此。他必须步行到我上班的地方才能和我汇合。

Original English

Kaylie: Thank you for having me today. It's been a bit crazy, you know, trying to make sure we get him to the bus on time between all of our work schedules and then having to pick them up. I luckily where I work, he is able to get dropped off sometimes, but not all the time. And he has to walk to my work in order to actually be with me.

Jeyan Jeganathan: 如果他走路的话,需要走多久?

Original English

Jeyan Jeganathan: But if he is walking, what is that? How long does that take?

Kaylie: 如果他被放在这个新的校车站,步行到我工作的地方大约需要20分钟。但如果他想从那里走回家,大约需要三个小时。

Original English

Kaylie: So if he gets dropped off at this new bus stop, if he wants to walk down to me, it'll probably be about 20 minutes. But if he wants to walk home, it would be about three hours.

Jeyan Jeganathan: 三个小时?

Original English

Jeyan Jeganathan: Three hours.

Kaylie: 没错,整整三个小时。

Original English

Kaylie: Three hours.

Jeyan Jeganathan: 好的。Nancy,我想向观众说明一下,我们现在处于一个施工现场,因此可能会有一些环境噪音。我们想向你请教,以便更好地了解为什么会有更多像 Kaylie 和她弟弟这样的人面临这些变化。你是 School Bus Ontario(安大略省校车协会)的执行董事,这是一个专门处理学生交通问题的非营利组织。请帮我们解释一下涉及学生交通的拨款模型。

Original English

Jeyan Jeganathan: Okay. All right, Nancy, I'm just going to make note. We are in a live construction site, so there are going to be some noises for our viewers and listeners. So I just want to make note of that. We want to speak to you to better understand why more people like Kaylie and her brother are seeing these changes. You're the executive director of School Bus Ontario, a non-profit association that deals a lot with issues around student transportation. Help me understand, there was sort of the funding model that sort of deals with student transportation.

Nancy: 是的。在2023年资金模型发生了改变,政府将其改为了基于需求的系统。纸面上看起来非常美好,但魔鬼往往隐藏在细节和执行层面。资金计算模型变了,他们计算了校车采购成本、保险、零部件、工资以及汽油等各项费用,但该模型并没有真正填补校车运营方所面临的实际资金缺口。

Original English

Nancy: Yeah. And in 2023, it changed and they changed it to a needs based system. And on paper it looked really good. But sometimes the devil is in the detail and implementation. So the funding model changed and they calculate different things like the cost of a bus, insurance, bus components, wages and everything else, gas, everything. But that didn't get into the gap that they were facing.

偏远地区与家庭困境

Jeyan Jeganathan: 我想回过头来问问 Kaylie。让我们向观众展示一张安大略省东部学生交通联合体(STEO)覆盖区域的地图,我们可以看到服务范围发生变化的地方。

从地图上看,它服务于两个校董会,在渥太华、布罗克维尔(Brockville)周围形成了一个U形,并向南延伸至康沃尔(Cornwall)。Kaylie,这张图上没有显示金斯顿(Kingston),那是你们家所在的位置,处于城市边界之外。但据我了解,你弟弟和家族其他成员历来都是在珀斯(Perth)上学的。请告诉我们以前的路线是怎样的?

Original English

Jeyan Jeganathan: All right. I want to come back to Kaylie. Let's show our viewers a map of the region that the student transportation of eastern Ontario covers. And we'll see a little bit about where the service changes. So right now, when we're looking at this map, IT services two school boards. It forms sort of a U-shape around Ottawa, Brockville and goes down to Cornwall further south. Now, Kaylie, what's missing in this image right here is Kingston. That's where your family lives, which is outside of the city boundaries. But your brother and other family members, from what I understand historically have always gone to Perth to school. So tell me a little bit about sort of what the route was before.

Kaylie: 我们家正好住在韦斯特波特(Westport)和戈德弗雷(Godfrey)的正中间。开车到韦斯特波特大概需要15到20分钟。过去校车会直接开到我们家门口接送,司机跑完路线接上我的表亲,然后接上我弟弟,掉头开回去跑常规路线。

今年依然是同一位校车司机,但他被禁止驶出学区边界线——而那个边界线距离我家只有不到13公里。所以现在我必须每天开车把我弟弟送到边界线以内才能送他上车。我不想打乱他的生活,我们家去年已经经历了大变故,我不想再让他承受更多变动,如果让他转学去另一所学校,单程车程大约要一小时,而去珀斯只要40分钟左右。

Original English

Kaylie: We actually live, like smack dab in the middle of Westport and Godfrey. So Westport is like a 15, 20 minute drive. And we would we would just get picked up from our house, the bus driver would do his route, pick up my cousins, then pick up my brother, go turn around, back out and do the route he's doing now because it's the same bus drivers last year, but he just isn't allowed to go past the boundary line, which is only, I think 13km or less from my house. So now I have to go and bring my brother into the boundary in order to get him on the bus, because I don't want to uproot his life. We've already had changes last year, so I don't want to make more changes of our life and make him go down to school, about just about an hour away from our house, where Perth is, about 40 minutes.

Jeyan Jeganathan: 你提到了变故,介意我问一下你们家发生了什么吗?

Original English

Jeyan Jeganathan: You mentioned changes. Do you mind me asking what what changed in your family?

Kaylie: 我妈妈去年去世了。

Original English

Kaylie: My mom passed away last.

Jeyan Jeganathan: 去年……

Original English

Jeyan Jeganathan: Year.

Kaylie: 这对一个15岁的男孩来说非常艰难。我和我父亲都不想再改变他的生活环境、让已经读11年级的他再去适应一所新学校。我们觉得这对他的打击太大了。

Original English

Kaylie: So very hard on a boy being 15 years old. And so I don't want to. My dad and I just don't want to change his life even more and make him start a new school when he's already in grade 11. So we just think it's too much to try and change it on him.

Jeyan Jeganathan: 对你的失去我深表遗憾。我了解到你男朋友也在帮忙分担接送。请问你们日常的具体安排是怎样的?你们有和校车司机沟通过吗?因为据我所知,校车走的路线其实差不多,只是不再为你弟弟停靠了。

Original English

Jeyan Jeganathan: I'm so sorry for your loss. I understand that your your boyfriend has sort of been kind of helping kind of fill the gaps. Help me understand. What does that look like on a day to day? Are we trying to are we having conversations with the bus driver? Because from what I understand, you know, the bus kind of follows a similar route, though. It just doesn't stop for your brother anymore.

Kaylie: 没错。我一直没能和校车司机当面谈上话,因为现在的校车站设立在限速80公里的公路交叉口上,司机一心只想快速让孩子们上车并尽快开走以保障交通顺畅。所以我没法跟他交谈。我本想发短信联系他,但一直还没找到机会。

Original English

Kaylie: Yeah, exactly. I haven't been able to talk to the bus driver because where the bus stop is, like I said, it's at an intersection of an 80 kilometre highway. So like, he's just trying to get the kids on the bus and start moving to keep traffic going. So I haven't been able to actually speak to him. I was going to reach out via text message, but I just haven't had a chance to.

校车系统改革诉求

Jeyan Jeganathan: Nancy,我之所以问这个问题,是因为很多家长的第一反应就是找校车司机询问出了什么问题。

Original English

Jeyan Jeganathan: Nancy, I asked that question because I'm sure lots of parents. The first point of contact is the bus driver and asking them what's wrong.

Nancy: 校车司机无法擅自更改路线,校车运营公司也没有权力更改路线。唯一有权更改路线的实体是交通联合体(Transportation Consortium)——即各校董会的交通管理分支机构,比如刚才提到的 STEO

校车司机和承运商在法律上都无权擅自更改,因为我们是与 STEO 等交通联合体签署合同的。这就是问题的一部分。他们在2023年的资金模型中更改了步行距离标准,这不仅影响到了 Kaylie 的家庭,也波及了全安省的学生。

2023年之后,渥太华有7,500名学生失去了校车服务,因为承运商拿到的合同报价根本无法覆盖其实际运营成本。2024年在伦弗鲁(Renfrew),有一万名学生直到11月才通上校车,这太糟糕了,原因同样是合同金额无法覆盖运营成本。

今年,全安省险些出现50,000名学生面临校车停运的危机,因为这套新的资金模型无法覆盖运营成本,加上自疫情以来我们遭遇了惊人的通货膨胀,这形成了双重打击。

Original English

Nancy: With the bus driver? Can't change the route. The bus company can't change the route. The only entity that can change the route is the transportation consortium, which is the transportation arm of the school boards, STEO, as you mentioned. So the bus driver can't they're not allowed to and neither are the operators. We enter into the contracts with S, t, E, O or whatever the Transportation consortium name is. And so that's part of the problem. They change the walk distances in the 2023 funding model. And not only did it impact people like here, but it also impacted students across Ontario. After 2023, we had 7500 students in Ottawa that didn't have student transportation because the operator couldn't pick up those routes for what they were being offered to him didn't cover his operating costs. In 2024 in Renfrew, we had 10,000 students who didn't have student transportation until November. It was awful because the contracts didn't cover the operating costs. This year, we came really close to having 50,000 students all across Ontario without student transportation, because operating costs are not being covered by this. This new funding model. And and we've had incredible inflation. It's been a double whammy.

Jeyan Jeganathan: 所以据我理解,你认为这些改革并没有带来改善?

Original English

Jeyan Jeganathan: So from what I understand, you don't believe these changes are for the better.

Nancy: 纸面上看起来很好,但问题在于落实执行。他们与交通联合体之间原本签署了具有法律约束力的既有合同,合同中明确规定了付款方式。

然而资金计算公式的政策变动就像是“方榫强插圆卯”,导致部分地区出现了资金削减。有些地区过渡平稳,但在某些地区确实造成了削减,承运商不仅要想方设法消化这些削减,还必须承受疫情以来极其沉重的通胀压力。

Original English

Nancy: Well, on on paper it looked great. The implementation the devil's in the details is that they already had existing contracts with the transportation consortia, and they're legally binding. It already said you're going to get paid a certain way. The funding formula changed the policy, and it was like a square peg in a round hole, and it resulted in cuts in some areas, not all. Some of them were smooth and it was fine, but in some areas it did result in funding cuts and the operator had to find ways to absorb those cuts on top of having to absorb incredible inflationary pressures since Covid.

Jeyan Jeganathan: 我需要说明的是,我们也联系了教育部以深入了解该资金模型,但在播出前未收到回复。

现在我想展示一下你刚才提到的一些变化。这是来自安省东部学生交通联合体(STEO)的数据展示牌。例如对于1至8年级的学生,如果居住地距离学校在1.6公里以内,通常被视为处于步行范围内,可能不再符合乘坐校车的资格。

Nancy,你刚才谈到了全省各地的情况。请帮助大家理解,我们身处多伦多和大多伦多地区,但整个安省幅员辽阔,学生们需要出行的距离非常远,而且就像 Kaylie 提到的那样,沿途很多是繁忙的高速公路。全省各地都存在这种现象吗?

Original English

Jeyan Jeganathan: All right. I should mention that we did reach out to the Ministry of Education as well to to get a better understanding of sort of the funding model there. But we did not hear back in time for. Yeah. Yes. Now, with that, I do want to show some of the changes that you were mentioning. So we do have a board here. This is from Student Transportation of Eastern Ontario. Just a show. And as we can see, for example, here, when we talk about sort of the distances here, grades 1 to 8, if a student lives less than 1.6km from school, they're generally considered within walking distance of the school and may not qualify for bus services. Now, Nancy, you were talking a little bit about sort of what we're seeing across the province. I'll help people understand. Obviously, we're here in Toronto, in the GTA, we talk about sort of how vast this province is, how these distances that students have to travel. We're talking about busy highways as well that Caylee was mentioning as well. Are we seeing this everywhere?

Nancy: 确实如此。有些学校周围根本没有行人通道,学生完全无法步行前往。我常举一个例子:在桑德贝(Thunder Bay)以东三小时车程的一个小型联合体辖区内,有些路线单程就需要一个半小时以上,这么远的距离根本不可能走路。

因此必须配备校车服务。但对于这些地区的承运商来说,招聘司机是一个巨大难题。他们必须与可能提供更高工资的采矿行业竞争,而根据省府的资金计算公式和成本覆盖机制,我们必须将工资控制在一定基准之内。

有些司机很难招募,他们每天得开车两个小时去上班,省府并不报销这笔路费。在我们的合同要求下,一旦有司机生病,我们必须从大区另一端调派人手,有时甚至需要自费为替班司机提供过夜食宿,仅仅为了能把学生送到学校。

每个地区的情况都截然不同,资金公式必须因地制宜。政府总是强调增加了校车运输拨款,纸面上拨款确实增加了,但这并不意味着落实到了具体合同中,因为那些合同在政策变动前就已经依法确立了。

Original English

Nancy: Oh, yeah. I mean, there are some schools that don't have pedestrian access at all. So there's no way you can walk. So I love giving an example in East of Thunder Bay, it's a small consortium east three hours east of Thunder Bay. And some of those routes are over an hour and a half one way. So you can't walk that far. So you have to have student transportation, finding drivers is a real problem for some of those operators in those areas. They're competing with the mining community, which may have higher wages, and we have to keep our wages within a certain benchmark according to the funding formula. And based on how we're going to cover our costs. So some of those drivers are hard to find. They have to drive two hours to work. That's not necessarily paid for by the province and in our contracts, if one of them gets sick, we have to find someone else from way across another part of the region, sometimes have to put them up room and board, pay for their meals overnight just to get a student to work. So these things are problematic. Every area is different. The funding formula needs to be based on local needs, and the government will point to increased funding for student transportation. And on paper there is increased funding. But that doesn't mean increased funding to the contracts because the contracts are legally binding. They were already in place before these changes.

Jeyan Jeganathan: Kaylie,我知道你一直在多方奔走,试图就校车路线变动对你家庭和弟弟 Joshua 的影响讨个说法。你希望决策者能够理解这些改变对你们家庭造成的何种影响?

Original English

Jeyan Jeganathan: All right, Kaylie, I know you've been trying to get answers. You know, from anyone about the specific changes to the bus route, to your family and to your brother Joshua. I am curious, what do you want decision makers to understand about the impact these changes have had on your family?

Kaylie: 我理解成本等各方面的考量,但这直接危及了我们的工作稳定。我只希望他们明白,我们希望校车能开到我们家门口。过去40年里,校车一直都开到我们家门口接送,所以发生这么大的变动让人非常震惊。

幸运的是我目前所在的工作单位非常体谅我。我男朋友现在也能开车送我弟弟,但他不可能一直这样做,他只是目前在这个方向上班,几个月后他的工作路线就会改变。到那时就得换别人来想办法送他——要么是我父亲必须调整时间,要么是我必须提前半小时到40分钟把他送到并早早到公司,而那段时间我是没有薪水的。面对接二连三的变故,我们只能拼尽全力去协调。

Original English

Kaylie: I do understand the costs and stuff, but like it puts us at risk of our jobs. Like for certain things. So like, I just would like them to understand that, you know, we would like busing to our house. I mean, I had busing for 40 years to my house. So it's just, it was quite a shock to have this big of a change. And, you know, luckily, I have a very understanding work at the moment. But and my boyfriend's able to drive my brother in, but he won't be able to do that all the time. Like he just works and works this way right now. But in a few months, it'll change and he'll be going a different route. So then someone else will have to try and get him there. Whether it's my dad and he has to move his stuff or I have to come in and drop him off and be in half an hour to 40 minutes early to work, which I don't get paid for. So it's just a whole bunch of different things changing and trying to work it all out.

Jeyan Jeganathan: Nancy,我们不仅从照护者、家长,也从校车司机那里听到了挫败感。你希望决策者对这些变动有什么样的认识?

Original English

Jeyan Jeganathan: Nancy, what do you hope? You know, we're hearing it not only from from caregivers, from parents, from sure, from the bus drivers as well about sort of the frustrations here. What do you want decision makers to understand about sort of the changes that we've seen?

Nancy: 如你所见,它造成了切实的现实影响。这是一个令人心痛的真实故事。前几年在伦弗鲁和渥太华受影响的所有学生,以及今年险些受到波及的学生,都承受了切实的现实冲击。

人们都有工作,他们依赖学生校车交通才能安心去上班。我们常说,一天的经济运转始于清晨开出的第一班校车,因为家长送孩子上了校车才能去工作,这是一种基本的可靠保障。而现在的系统非常脆弱。

我们需要政府认识到,过去五年中我们所承受的巨大通货膨胀压力使得现有拨款根本无法覆盖学生交通的真实成本。我们希望由第三方开展一次基于证据的成本审查,彻查地面实际运营校车的真实成本,这将帮助我们纠正类似问题。因为一旦校车运输中断,真的会给家长和学生的生活带来巨大混乱。

Original English

Nancy: Well, it has real world impacts as you can see. Just I mean, this is an awful story. And all those students in Renfrew and in Ottawa a couple of years ago, almost this year as well, that has real world impacts. And, you know, people have jobs. They rely on student transportation to get to work. You know, we always say the economy starts at the beginning of the day with a school bus because parents drop off their kids, they go to work. And that's a reliability. And the system is very fragile right now. And we need the government to understand that the incredible inflationary pressures we've faced over the last five years doesn't cost, doesn't cover the costs of student transportation. Right now, we'd like a third party evidence based review of costs, what it costs on the ground to run student transportation, and that will help us rectify problems like this. Because, you know, when there's no student transportation, it really creates havoc in parents and students lives.

Jeyan Jeganathan: 我们的采访就到这里。Kaylie,祝你一切顺利,希望校车路线及相关问题能有所改善。Nancy,非常感谢你为我们带来深刻的行业见解并帮助我们厘清校车路线背后的机制。非常感谢两位。

安省学校今年迎来了诸多重大变革,而一个巨大的问号依然笼罩在上空:劳资谈判是否会扰乱这一整个学年?我们将在《The Rundown》持续跟踪所有最新进展。感谢收看,我们明天见。

Original English

Jeyan Jeganathan: We are going to leave it there. Kaylie, I wish you all the best. I hope things do change or do get better. In terms of the bus route and all of that. Nancy, I want to thank you so much for bringing the insight information for us in better understanding the bus routes. Thank you so much to you both. So there is a lot changing in Ontario schools this year and one very big question still hanging over it all. Will labour negotiations disrupt the year? We'll be tracking all the developments here on the rundown. Until then, I'll see you tomorrow.

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