色彩感知的本质:人类、科技与哲学思辨
你所看到的并非一个黄色的球。
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You are not looking at a yellow ball.
你的大脑可能认为你正在看一个黄色的球,但请仔细观察。
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Your brain might think you're looking at a yellow ball, but look closer.
你正在观看此内容的屏幕仅使用红色、绿色和蓝色的子像素(Subpixel: 构成显示屏像素的红、绿、蓝独立发光单元)来显示颜色。
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The screen you're watching this on displays color using only red, green, and blue subpixels.
你的大脑认为它看到的黄色,实际上是红色和绿色光的混合。
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The yellow your brain thinks it's seeing is actually a mix of red and green light.
我现在正在对着的摄像机,其传感器由对红色、绿色和蓝色敏感的感光点(Photosites: 图像传感器中将光信号转换为电信号的微小单元)组成。
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The camera I'm talking to right now has a sensor composed of red, green, and blue-sensitive photosites.
同样,没有黄色。
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Again, no yellow.
当然,球就在我手中,所以我正在看一个黄色的球,或者说,我真的在看吗?
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Of course, I have the ball here in my hand, so I am looking at a yellow ball, or am I?
毕竟,我的眼睛与那台摄像机并没有太大区别。
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After all my eyes aren't so different from that camera.
人类视网膜中只有对红色、绿色或蓝色光波长敏感的视锥细胞(Cone Cells: 视网膜中负责颜色感知和高分辨率视觉的感光细胞)。
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The human retina only has cone cells sensitive to red, green, or blue wavelengths of light.
为了感知其他颜色,我们必须整合来自这三种视锥细胞的输入。
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To perceive other colors, we have to integrate the inputs from those three cone types.
当黄色光进入我的眼睛时,它会刺激我对红色和绿色敏感的视锥细胞,尽管刺激程度不如纯红色或纯绿色光。
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When yellow light enters my eye, it stimulates my red and green-sensitive cone cells, although not as much as pure red, or green light would.
当红色和绿色敏感的视锥细胞受到同等程度的兴奋时,我的大脑就会告诉我正在看黄色。
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With red and green-sensitive cones equally excited, my brain tells me I'm looking at yellow.
这就是我们的技术、摄像机、屏幕和投影仪如何通过以不同比例触发我们三种不同类型的视锥细胞,仅使用三种波长的光来欺骗我们的大脑,使其看到彩虹般的所有颜色。
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This is how our technology, our cameras, and screens, and projectors can trick our brains into seeing a whole rainbow of colors using just three wavelengths of light by triggering our three different types of cone cells in different proportions.
那么,这个球真的是黄色的吗?
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So is the ball really yellow?
黄色到底意味着什么?
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What does yellow even mean?
许多人会说颜色是物体反射的光波长。
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A lot of people would say that color is the wavelengths of light that an object reflects.
换句话说,就像亚里士多德所认为的那样,颜色是物体的一种属性。
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In other words, like Aristotle thought, color is a property of the object.
但是,当你在屏幕上看到同一个球时,你的眼睛只感知到红色和绿色光,然而你的大脑仍然将其感知为黄色。
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But looking at the same ball on a screen, your eyes only sensed red and green light, yet your brain still perceived it as yellow.
因此,也可能像伽利略所相信的那样,颜色根本不是物体的一种属性,而是一种心理现象。
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So it's also possible, like Galileo believed, that color isn't a property of an object at all, but a phenomenon of the mind instead.
但这是谁的意识呢?
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But whose mind?
因为我们并非唯一能看到彩色世界的动物。
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Because we aren't the only animals that can see the world in color.
超越人类视角:动物的色彩世界
- Nathan: 我们常常不会真正思考其他动物是如何看待颜色的。
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- We oftentimes don't really think about how other animals see color.
例如,我们给狗买的鲜红色或橙色玩具,对我们来说是鲜红色或橙色,但对它们来说却不是,因为它们无法区分橙色或红色与绿色。
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So for example, we buy our dogs bright red, or orange toys that are only bright red, or orange for us, and not for them, because they can't see orange, or red as being distinct from green.
- Derek: 所以也许我们应该开始从不仅仅是人类的角度来审视世界。
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- [Derek] So maybe we should start taking in the world from more than just the human perspective.
这样做或许能教会我们色彩视觉最初是如何进化的。
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Doing that might just teach us why color vision evolved in the first place.
- Nathan: 老实说,我们实际上处于光谱的较低端。
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- We're actually towards the lower end of the spectrum, honestly.
如果它们是猫或狗的话,我们可能比我们的宠物高一级,但远不如许多动物群体,比如蝴蝶、鸟类、鱼类、蜥蜴和跳蛛。
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We're a step up from our household pets, maybe, if they're cats, or dogs, but not nearly as good as many animal groups out there, butterflies, birds, fish, lizards, jumping spiders.
跳蛛实际上是无害的生物。
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Jumping spiders are harmless creatures, actually.
它们从来没有长到足以对人类构成威胁的大小。
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They don't ever really get big enough to pose much of a threat to humans.
当然,如果你是一只小昆虫,那么你绝对需要害怕跳蛛。
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Of course, if you were a small insect, yes, you would absolutely need to be afraid of a jumping spider.
- Lisa Taylor: 它们有时会捕食比自己体型大两三倍的猎物。
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- [Lisa] They'll take down prey that's sometimes like two, or three times their own body size.
- Nathan: 跳蛛的中文翻译字面意思是“蝇虎”,我喜欢把它们想象成灌木丛中的小猫。
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- The Chinese word for jumping spider translates literally to fly tiger, and that's the way I like to think about them is the kind of small cats of the undergrowth.
跳蛛无处不在。
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- Jumping spiders are everywhere.
它们在你的后院,可能也在你的厨房里。
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They're in your backyard. They're probably in your kitchen.
目前已知的跳蛛有大约6000种。
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- There are about 6,000 species of jumping spiders known.
有些毛茸茸的,有些闪闪发光,有条纹的,有斑点的,红色的,绿色的,蓝色的。
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Some are sort of furry, some are sort of shiny, striped, spotted, red, green, blue.
几乎你能想象到的任何样子。
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Pretty much anything you can imagine.
就像每一个都是一件小小的艺术品。
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It's like every one is a little work of art.
作为一个群体,蜘蛛并不以它们的视力而闻名。
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- As a group, spiders aren't known for their vision.
我的意思是,大多数物种是夜行性的,对许多物种来说,它们的网充当了一种额外的感官器官,所以它们不需要看得那么清楚。
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I mean, most species are nocturnal, and for many, their webs act as a sort of extra sense organ, so they just don't need to see that well.
但跳蛛作为活跃的昼间猎手,它们则不同。
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But jumping spiders, as active daytime hunters, well, they're different.
它们不仅视力极佳,而且不同物种拥有不同形式的色彩视觉。
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Not only do they have great eyesight, but different species have different forms of color vision.
看看那些眼睛。
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Look at those eyes.
跳蛛的八只眼睛:精密的视觉系统
- Nathan: 跳蛛的眼睛非常迷人,当我说眼睛时,我指的是八只眼睛。
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- Jumping spider eyes are fascinating, and when I say eyes, I mean eight eyes.
跳蛛将运动检测和光敏感度分配给一些眼睛,然后将色彩视觉和精细细节视觉分配给另一些眼睛。
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Jumping spiders split up things like motion detection and light sensitivity to some eyes, and then color vision and fine detail vision into others.
也许最迷人或最不寻常的一对眼睛是我们称之为主眼(Principal Eyes: 跳蛛前方最大的一对眼睛,负责高分辨率视觉和颜色感知)的。
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The pair of eyes that are perhaps the most fascinating, or most unusual are what we call the principal eyes, and those are the really big eyes in the front of the face that make jumping spiders look a little cute if you're willing to say a spider looks cute ever, and those are built unlike any other eye in the animal kingdom.
它们是脸部前方非常大的眼睛,如果你愿意说蜘蛛可爱的话,它们会让跳蛛看起来有点可爱,而且它们的构造与动物王国中任何其他眼睛都不同。
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The pair of eyes that are perhaps the most fascinating, or most unusual are what we call the principal eyes, and those are the really big eyes in the front of the face that make jumping spiders look a little cute if you're willing to say a spider looks cute ever, and those are built unlike any other eye in the animal kingdom.
- Derek: 事实证明,跳蛛感知颜色的方式与这些主眼的解剖结构息息相关。
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- [Derek] It turns out the way jumping spiders perceive color has everything to do with the anatomy of those principal eyes.
- Nathan: 它们实际上非常像伽利略望远镜或双筒望远镜。
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- [Nathan] They're really actually built a lot like a Galilean telescope, or binoculars.
你从动物外部看到的大透镜是这些眼睛中的两个透镜之一,在这两个透镜之间是一个充满液体的长管。
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That big lens that you see from the outside of the animal is one of two lenses in these eyes, and in between those two lenses is a long fluid-filled tube.
那个充满液体的长管的末端是第二个透镜,这个透镜的作用是放大第一个透镜投射到长管底部的图像。
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At the end of that fluid-filled tube is a second lens, and what that lens does is it magnifies the image that that first lens projects down that long tube, and in that way, it increases the ability to see detail by the retina that sits right below it.
通过这种方式,它增加了下方视网膜看清细节的能力。
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At the end of that fluid-filled tube is a second lens, and what that lens does is it magnifies the image that that first lens projects down that long tube, and in that way, it increases the ability to see detail by the retina that sits right below it.
- Derek: 而在看清细节方面,跳蛛是很难被超越的。
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- [Derek] And when it comes to seeing detail, it's hard to beat a jumping spider.
- Nathan: 对于大多数动物来说,眼睛越大,功能越好。
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- For most animals, the bigger the eye, the better it functions.
跳蛛完全打破了这个规则。
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Jumping spiders absolutely break this rule.
它们的次生眼能像世界上最好的昆虫眼睛一样看清世界,比世界上最大的蜻蜓(它们的整个头部都被眼睛占据)还要好。
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The secondary eyes can see the world about as well as the absolute best insect eyes out there, better than the world's biggest dragonflies, whose entire head is consumed by an eye.
主眼实际上能比宠物狗、家猫、大象更好地识别世界中的图案,几乎和视力敏锐的鸽子一样好。
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The principal eyes, they can actually see pattern in the world better than a lap dog, a house cat, an elephant, and nearly as good as the sharp-sighted pigeon, but it's a very narrow slice of the world that they can see.
但它们能看到的只是世界的一个非常狭窄的切片。
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The principal eyes, they can actually see pattern in the world better than a lap dog, a house cat, an elephant, and nearly as good as the sharp-sighted pigeon, but it's a very narrow slice of the world that they can see.
大约就像你伸直手臂时拇指的大小。
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It's about like your thumb held at arm's length.
- Derek: 而只有在世界这个狭窄的切片中,跳蛛才能看到精细的细节和颜色。
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- [Derek] And it's only in that narrow slice of the world that jumping spiders can see fine detail and color.
- Nathan: 所以跳蛛的次生眼给了它们360度的世界视野。
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- So the jumping spider's secondary eyes give them a full 360-degree view of the world.
现在,想象一下大部分是黑白的。
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Now, imagine most of that's in black and white.
当你看到有东西移动时,你可以转动身体去看它。
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When you see something move, you can swivel to look at it.
现在,任何你真正好奇的东西,你都可以将精细的细节和颜色添加到这个黑白视觉的世界中。
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And now, anything that's really of curiosity to you, you can add to this world of black and white vision fine detail and color.
但你只能一刻一刻地这样做。
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But you can only do it moment by moment.
所以你实际上是在描绘你否则无法看到的关于颜色和图案的额外细节。
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So you're really kind of painting additional details about color and pattern that you couldn't see otherwise.
这是一个狂野的世界,你很难把自己置身其中。
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It's a wild world to try to put yourself into.
跳蛛色彩视觉的演化多样性
- Derek: 当它们的主眼扫过一个场景时,某些种类的跳蛛比其他种类向它们的世界添加了更多的颜色信息。
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- As they sweep their principal eyes across a scene, some species of jumping spiders are adding a lot more color information to their world than others.
大多数跳蛛,包括这一种,都是双色视者(Dichromats: 拥有两种视锥细胞,能感知两种基本颜色的生物),这意味着它们的视网膜中有两种颜色敏感的视锥细胞,就像狗和大多数其他哺乳动物一样。
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Most jumping spiders, including this one, are dichromats, meaning they have two types of color-sensitive cone cells in their retinas, just like dogs and most other mammals.
- Nathan: 通过比较这两种细胞以及它们对环境中光的反应,它们对颜色有了粗略的理解。
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- [Nathan] And by comparing those two kinds of cells and how they respond to light in the environment, they get a coarse understanding of color.
它们可以区分紫外线、紫色、蓝色和绿色。
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They can tell the difference between UV, violet, blue, and green.
但有些类型的跳蛛是三色视者(Trichromats: 拥有三种视锥细胞,能感知三种基本颜色的生物),拥有三种视锥细胞,像人类一样,而另一些则是四色视者(Tetrachromats: 拥有四种视锥细胞,能感知四种基本颜色的生物),像鸟类一样。
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But some types of jumping spiders are trichromats with three types of cones, like humans, and other are tetrachromats, like birds.
奇怪的是,所有这些拥有扩展色彩视觉的物种不一定是近亲。
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The weird thing is all these species with expanded color vision aren't necessarily close relatives.
- Nathan: 在跳蛛中,即使是密切相关的群体,它们在世界中感知颜色的能力也存在巨大差异。
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- In jumping spiders, we have huge variation, even from closely related groups, in how well they're able to see color in the world.
跳蛛正在以不同的方式一次又一次地重新发明感知颜色的能力。
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Jumping spiders are reinventing, in some ways, the ability to see color over and over again in different ways.
这使得跳蛛非常特别。
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- That makes jumping spiders pretty special.
我的意思是,考虑一下灵长类动物。
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I mean, consider primates.
旧世界猴、猿和人类都拥有三色视觉,但我们也共享一个共同祖先。
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Old World monkeys, apes, and humans all have trichromatic color vision, but we also share a common ancestor.
所以我们的色彩视觉可能只进化了一次,然后就一直存在。
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So our color vision probably evolved only once, and then it stuck around.
这就是跳蛛真正脱颖而出的地方。
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This is where jumping spiders really stand out.
例如,感知红色的能力在跳蛛中已经进化了好几次。
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The ability to see red, for example, has evolved several times in jumping spiders.
研究人员之所以知道这一点,是因为他们已经弄清楚了不同群体之间的关系,而这里的“他们”主要指的是跳蛛狂热爱好者韦恩·麦迪逊(Wayne Maddison)。
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Researchers know that, because they've figured out how different groups are related, and by they, I mostly mean jumping spider fanatic Wayne Maddison.
- Wayne Maddison: 哦,天哪,哈瓦伊卡(Havaika)!
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- Oh my gosh, Havaika.
太棒了!
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Fantastic!
美丽的雄性。
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Beautiful male.
啊,我已经30年没见过活的哈瓦伊卡了。
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Ah, it's been, it's been 30 years since I've seen a live Havaika.
- Megan Porter: 他绝对是跳蛛先生。
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- [Megan] He is absolutely Mr. Jumping Spider.
他的专长确实是跳蛛分类学。
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His expertise really is in jumping spider taxonomy.
- Wayne Maddison: 我研究跳蛛的进化树。
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- I work on the evolutionary tree of jumping spiders.
生命进化树基本上是连接我们所有人的遗传谱系。
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The evolutionary tree of life is basically the pathway of genetic descent that links all of us.
- Derek: 不同物种在进化树上的位置可以告诉我们它们是如何获得现有特征的。
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- [Derek] The position of different species on this evolutionary tree can tell us how they ended up with the traits they have.
比如,如果大多数跳蛛看不到红色,但进化树上两个非常不同部分的两个物种却能看到,那么很可能这两个物种是独立进化出这些能力的。
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Like if most jumping spiders don't see red, but two species on two very different parts of the tree do, chances are that those two species evolved those abilities independently.
- Nathan: 在这种情况下,我们就可以开始提出问题,比如是什么推动了这种进化?
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- In which case, then we can start to ask questions like what's driving that evolution?
它们是否有相似的生态环境?
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Do they have similar ecologies?
它们捕食相似的猎物吗?
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Do they hunt similar prey?
并试图真正理解哪些选择性力量导致了这些扩展的色彩视觉系统。
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And try to really understand what selective forces are leading to these expanded color vision systems.
- Lisa Taylor: 这可能有助于它们寻找食物,或者区分美味的猎物和可能伤害它们的猎物。
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- It might help them find food, or discriminate tasty prey from prey that can harm them.
- Nathan: 当然,许多小昆虫颜色鲜艳,其中一些正利用这些鲜艳的颜色来宣示它们有毒。
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- [Nathan] Because, of course, lots of small insects are brightly colored, and some of them are using those bright colors to advertise that they're toxic.
- Derek: 另一种可能性是,看到一个更丰富的色彩世界可能有助于动物,从蜥蜴到蜘蛛,选择更好的配偶。
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- [Derek] Another possibility is that seeing a richer world of color might help animals, from lizards to spiders, choose better mates.
为了验证这些想法,研究人员需要知道6000种跳蛛中哪些拥有扩展的色彩视觉,哪些没有。
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To test these ideas, the researchers needed to know which of the 6,000 species of jumping spiders had expanded color vision and which didn't, and outside of a few well-studied species, no one really knew.
除了少数研究充分的物种外,没有人真正知道。
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To test these ideas, the researchers needed to know which of the 6,000 species of jumping spiders had expanded color vision and which didn't, and outside of a few well-studied species, no one really knew.
因此,团队开始从跳蛛家族树的每个主要分支收集蜘蛛。
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So the team set out to collect spiders from every major branch of the jumping spider family tree.
- Lisa Taylor: 我们首先要做的就是确定去哪里以及寻找什么。
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- One of our first things is just prioritizing where to go and what to look for.
所以,这需要在许多地方进行大量采样。
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And so, it's a lot of sampling in a lot of places.
- Nathan: 让我们看看谁住在这里。
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- Let's see who lives here.
- Derek: 这有点像“Pokemon GO”,只不过宝可梦是真的,它们比你的小指甲还小,而且它们非常善于隐藏。
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- [Derek] It's kind of like "Pokemon GO," except the Pokemon are real, they're smaller than your pinky fingernail, and they're really good at hiding.
- Nathan: 有些跳蛛已经进化到非常适应特定情况。
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- Some jumping spiders have evolved to be really fine-tuned to a particular situation.
例如,有一些专门吃白蚁的跳蛛,你只会在白蚁周围找到它们。
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So for example, there are termite-eating specialist jumping spiders that you're only gonna find around termites.
有一种我们只在南非的骨堆中发现的物种。
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There was this one species that we only found in piles of bones in South Africa.
谁知道它在那里做什么,但我们很快就知道那是环境中唯一能找到它的地方。
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Who knows what it was doing there, but we quickly learned that that was the only place in the environment we were gonna find it.
所以,这也是乐趣的一部分。
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And so, that's part of the fun of it.
我觉得这有点像寻宝。
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I feel like it's a bit of a treasure hunt, really.
探究跳蛛视觉:方法与发现
- Derek: 团队没有放过任何一个角落,带着数百只代表不同物种的蜘蛛回到实验室。
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- With no proverbial stone left unturned, the team returns to their labs with hundreds of spiders representing many different species.
他们想弄清楚哪些物种拥有扩展的色彩视觉,每个物种是如何做到的,以及为什么。
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They want to figure out which species have expanded color vision, how each species does it, and why.
要判断动物如何看到颜色实际上是一个难题。
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It's actually a hard question to tell how animals can see color.
我们不能简单地连接我们的大脑来看到它们所看到的。
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We can't just connect our brains to see what they see.
那么我们是如何做到的呢?
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So how do we do it?
- Nathan: 我们首先使用一种叫做显微分光光度法(Microspectrophotometry: 一种结合显微镜和分光光度计的技术,用于测量微小样本的光吸收光谱)的技术。
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- [Nathan] We begin by using a technique called microspectrophotometry.
这是一个很长的词。
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It's a really long word.
它简单地意味着将显微镜与测量不同波长光的设备——分光光度计配对使用。
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What it simply means is a microscope paired with a device that measures different wavelengths of light, a spectrophotometer.
- Derek: 研究人员取出跳蛛视网膜的超薄切片,然后测量单个视锥细胞吸收的光波长。
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- [Derek] The researchers take ultra-thin slices of jumping spider retinas, and then they measure the wavelengths of light absorbed by individual cone cells.
通过足够的这些测量,他们可以判断一个物种是双色视者、三色视者还是四色视者,以及它的细胞最擅长检测哪些波长的光。
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With enough of these measurements, they can tell if a species is a dichromat, trichromat, or tetrachromat, and what wavelengths of light its cells are best at detecting.
但这并非全部。
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But that's not the whole story.
- Nathan: 了解视网膜中的内容告诉我们这些动物能看到什么或不能看到什么,但它实际上并没有告诉我们它们看到了什么,或者它们可能如何使用这些信息。
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- Having that knowledge of what's in the retina tells us what is, or isn't possible for these animals to see, but it doesn't actually tell us what they do see, or how they might use that.
因此,确定动物能看到颜色的黄金标准是通过行为学来做到这一点。
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And so, the gold standard for establishing that an animal can see color is to do so behaviorally.
- Derek: 换句话说,我们需要以某种方式询问蜘蛛它们能看到什么,然后理解它们的答案。
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- In other words, we somehow need to ask the spiders what they can see and then understand their answers.
弄清楚蜘蛛大脑中发生的事情是困难的。
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Figuring out what's going on inside a spider's mind is difficult.
毫不奇怪,这需要一群专业的动物学家才能做到。
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It's no surprise that it takes a group of expert zoologists to do so.
但我们自己的大脑也同样复杂,然而我们很少与心理健康专家交谈,以帮助我们解释我们的思想和情感。
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But our own minds can be just as complicated, yet we rarely talk with mental health experts to help us interpret our thoughts and emotions.
无论你感到沮丧、焦虑,或者只是压力大想找人倾诉,治疗师都能让你从不同的角度看待事物,这就是今天赞助商BetterHelp的用武之地。
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Whether you're feeling depressed, anxious, or are just stressed and want someone to talk to, a therapist lets you see things from a different perspective, and that's where today's sponsor, BetterHelp, comes in.
我知道找到一个让你感到舒适的治疗师可能会令人望而生畏,特别是如果你的选择仅限于你所在城市的选项,但BetterHelp让你能够克服这一点,因为它是一个在线平台,他们让你很容易与专业的治疗师联系,他们可以帮助你解决你所面临的任何问题。
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I know finding a therapist you're comfortable around can be intimidating, especially if you're only limited to the options in your city, but BetterHelp lets you get around this, because it's an online platform, and they make it really easy to connect with a professional therapist, who can help you work through whatever you're facing.
注册很简单。
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It's easy to sign up.
描述中有一个链接,betterhelp.com/veritasium,回答几个问题后,BetterHelp会为你匹配他们30,000多名治疗师中的一位。
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There's a link in the description, betterhelp.com/veritasium, and after answering a few questions, BetterHelp will match you with one of their more than 30,000 therapists.
每位治疗师都持有执照,拥有硕士或博士学位,并与人们相处了三年多,超过1,000小时。
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Each therapist is licensed, has a master's, or a PhD, and has spent over three years and over 1,000 hours with people.
如果你觉得与第一位治疗师不合拍,你可以免费更换一位新的,而不会感到尴尬。
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And if you don't click with your first therapist, you can simply switch to a new one for free without things getting awkward.
如果你觉得与人交谈、获得建议、反馈和帮助会受益,那么请访问betterhelp.com/veritasium开始。
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If you feel like you'd benefit from talking to someone, getting advice, feedback, and help, then visit betterhelp.com/veritasium to get started.
点击该链接既有助于支持本频道,也能让你第一个月享受九折优惠。
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Clicking that link both helps support this channel, but it also gets you 10% off your first month.
所以我要感谢BetterHelp赞助本视频,现在,回到跳蛛以及它们如何看到颜色。
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So I wanna thank BetterHelp for sponsoring this video, and now, back to jumping spiders and how they see color.
行为实验:学习规避有毒猎物
- Nathan: 这些动物特别喜欢调查移动的东西,而这些反应可以由颜色引导。
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- These animals are particularly motivated to investigate things that move, and these responses can be guided by color.
- Derek: 理论很简单。
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- [Derek] The theory is simple.
你给蜘蛛展示一个屏幕,上面有一个移动的形状,它与背景颜色不同,但亮度相同,然后你观察蜘蛛是否试图跟随。
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You show the spider a screen with a moving shape that differs from the background in color, but not in brightness, and you see if the spider tries to follow.
- Nathan: 让跳蛛实际转动和反应的问题是,它们绝对会这样做,但这会改变它们所看到的一些东西。
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- [Nathan] The problem with letting the jumping spider actually turn and respond is that they'll absolutely do so, but it changes some of what they see.
所以我们想要的是真正控制蜘蛛在任何给定时刻能看到什么。
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So what we want is to really have some control over what the spiders can see at any given moment.
- Derek: 所以研究人员用附着在它们头上的小磁铁将它们固定住。
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- So the researchers hold them in place with tiny magnets attached to their heads.
- Nathan: 我们所做的是给它们一个球站立。
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- [Nathan] What we do is we give them a ball to stand on.
它们实际上用脚抓住它,我们可以监测那个球在它们脚下如何移动,以了解它们想去哪里。
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They actually hold it with their feet, and we can monitor how that ball moves around in their feet to know where they would want to go.
- Derek: 如果蜘蛛将球转向左边,它可能是在试图向右看以跟随移动的形状,这证明蜘蛛可以区分形状和背景的颜色。
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- If the spider turns the ball to the left, it's probably trying to look to the right to follow the moving shape, and that's evidence the spider can discriminate between the colors of the shape and the background.
一旦团队知道哪些物种能看到哪些颜色,下一个问题就是它们是如何做到的?
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Once the team knows which species can see which colors, the next question is how do they do it?
这些能看到和区分更多颜色的蜘蛛的DNA有什么不同?
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What's different in the DNA of these spiders that can see and discriminate more colors?
如果你问梅根·波特(Megan Porter),这很大程度上归结于编码视蛋白(Opsins: 存在于视锥细胞中,负责吸收特定波长光的感光色素蛋白质)的基因。
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If you ask Megan Porter, a lot of it comes down to genes that encode proteins called opsins.
- Megan Porter: 动物实现色彩视觉的方式是拥有这种视蛋白基因的不同拷贝,而这些变异随后产生对不同颜色光敏感的蛋白质。
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- The way that animals achieve color vision is to have different copies of this opsin gene, and those variations then are what produce proteins that are sensitive to different colors of light.
我们通常对新物种使用的第一种技术是转录组测序(Transcriptome Sequencing: 一种高通量测序技术,用于分析特定细胞或组织中所有RNA分子的序列和丰度)。
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The first technique that we generally go to with a new species is called transcriptome sequencing, and this is where we can take the entire head of a jumping spider, and we can get the sequences for every single gene that is expressed in that tissue.
通过这种方法,我们可以取跳蛛的整个头部,并获得在该组织中表达的每个基因的序列。
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The first technique that we generally go to with a new species is called transcriptome sequencing, and this is where we can take the entire head of a jumping spider, and we can get the sequences for every single gene that is expressed in that tissue.
- Derek: 这种方法为研究人员提供了所有正在表达的基因的清单,换句话说,所有从DNA中复制出来并用于制造蛋白质的基因。
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- [Derek] This method gives the researchers an inventory of all the genes being expressed, in other words, all the genes that are copied out of the DNA and sent to make a protein.
然后团队可以弄清楚这些基因中的每一个在哪里表达,在哪些眼睛中,以及在眼睛的哪些部分。
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Then the team can figure out where each of these genes is expressed, in which eyes, and in which parts of the eye.
- Megan Porter: 我们使用一种叫做免疫组织化学(Immunohistochemistry: 一种利用抗体与组织或细胞中的特定抗原结合,并通过显色反应检测抗原的技术)的精巧技术来做到这一点。
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- And we do that using a fancy technique called immunohistochemistry.
- Derek: 研究人员基本上创造出特定于他们感兴趣的每种蛋白质的发光分子标签。
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- [Derek] The researchers basically create glowing molecular tags specific to each protein they're interested in.
- Megan Porter: 然后通过观察哪些部分发出正确的颜色,我们可以确定每种视蛋白在哪里表达,蛋白质位于何处。
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- [Megan] And then looking for which parts glow in the right color, we can figure out where each opsin is being expressed, where the protein is located.
- Derek: 团队特别感兴趣的是在主眼视网膜中表达的基因。
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- The team is especially interested in genes that are expressed in the retinas of the principal eyes.
这些基因最有可能与色彩视觉的变化有关。
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These are the genes most likely to be related to changes in color vision.
这个询问哪些物种拥有扩展色彩视觉以及它们如何实现这一过程的过程,已经带来了一些令人惊讶的发现。
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Already, this process of asking which species have expanded color vision and how they accomplish it has led to some surprising discoveries.
研究人员已经知道,感知和区分更多颜色的能力在跳蛛中不止一次进化。
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The researchers already knew that the ability to see and discriminate more colors had evolved more than once among jumping spiders.
但他们没有意识到这种能力会如此普遍。
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But they hadn't realized just how widespread this ability would be.
在测量了进化树上45个物种后,团队已经发现了多达12次独立的色彩视觉变化。
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After measuring 45 species across the evolutionary tree, the team has already found as many as 12 independent changes in color vision.
从进化的角度来看,跳蛛似乎一直在进化出新的扩展色彩视觉形式,而不同物种以非常不同的方式获得了它们新的视觉能力。
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In evolutionary terms, jumping spiders seem to be evolving new expanded forms of color vision all the time, and different species have acquired their new visual capabilities in very different ways.
以感知红色的能力为例。
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Take, for example, the ability to see red.
大多数跳蛛的视网膜中只有对绿色敏感和对紫外线敏感的感光色素(Photopigments: 存在于视网膜感光细胞中,能吸收光线并启动视觉过程的分子)。
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Most jumping spiders only have green-sensitive and UV-sensitive photo pigments in their retinas.
但有些物种在它们的绿色敏感视蛋白基因在基因组中意外复制时变得对红色敏感,新的拷贝开始进化,将其敏感度转移到更长的波长。
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But some species became sensitive to red when their green-sensitive opsin gene was accidentally duplicated in the genome, and the new copy started to evolve, shifting its sensitivity to longer wavelengths.
- Nathan: 所以在我们的眼睛里,也发生了同样的事情。
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- So in our eyes, that's exactly what happened.
我们对绿色敏感的视觉色素的视蛋白基因被复制了,第二个版本进化得对红色更敏感,我们看到这种情况在跳蛛中反复发生。
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The opsin gene for our green-sensitive visual pigment was duplicated, and the second version evolved to be more red-sensitive, and we see this happen over and over and over again in jumping spiders.
- Derek: 但其他跳蛛以完全不同的方式感知红色。
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- But other jumping spiders see red in a totally different way.
它们没有进化出新的感光色素,而是在一些绿色敏感的视锥细胞中添加了一个内部滤光片,这会滤除绿光,并迫使这些细胞只对更长的波长(如红色)做出反应。
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Rather than evolving new photo pigments, they added an internal filter to some of their green-sensitive cone cells, which cuts out green light, and forces those cells to respond only to longer wavelengths, like red.
- Nathan: 它们基本上可以通过在一些感光器前面使用滤光片,而在另一些前面不使用,从而从同一种感光器中创造出两种不同类型的细胞。
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- They can basically create two kinds of cells from the same type of photoreceptor simply by using a filter in front of some of them and not in front of others.
进化优势:食物、配偶与深度错觉
- Derek: 所有这些进化创新使得最初的问题更加引人入胜。
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- All this evolutionary innovation makes the original question even more intriguing.
为什么最初要进化出扩展的色彩视觉呢?
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Why evolve expanded color vision in the first place?
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That's the question Lisa Taylor is trying to answer.
对于像跳蛛这样的视觉捕食者来说,更好的色彩视觉可能意味着找到更多的猎物。
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For a visual predator, like a jumping spider, better color vision could mean finding more prey.
它也可能意味着避免可能有害的猎物。
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It could also mean avoiding prey that might harmful.
- Lisa Taylor: 环境中的许多猎物都用鲜艳的颜色来宣示它们的毒性,特别是用长波长的颜色,如红色和橙色。
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- [Lisa] And so, a lot of prey in the environment advertise their toxicity with bright colors, and particularly with long wavelength colors, such as red and orange.
所以我们正在测试这样一个想法:利用色彩视觉将帮助这些蜘蛛学会避免并持续避免那些味道不好的红色猎物。
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So we're testing the idea that the ability to use color vision will help these spiders learn to avoid and continue to avoid red prey that taste bad.
- Derek: 在这个实验中,所有的猎物都是白蚁。
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- [Derek] In this experiment, all the prey are termites.
有些背上涂了一点红漆,另一些涂了一点灰漆。
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Some have a dab of red paint on their backs, and others have a dab of gray,
- Lisa Taylor: 这不会以任何方式影响它们的行为。
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- And this doesn't affect their behavior in any way.
它们仍然自然地四处移动,而且蜘蛛真的喜欢吃白蚁。
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They still move around naturally, and the spiders really like to eat termites.
- Derek: 红色的白蚁还用一种叫做苦精(Bitrex: 已知最苦的物质之一,常用于防止误食)的化合物处理过。
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- [Derek] The red termites also get treated with a compound called Bitrex, which is actually the most bitter substance known.
- Lisa Taylor: 是的,事实证明蜘蛛也觉得它味道很恶心。
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- And yeah, it turns out that the spiders also think it tastes disgusting.
所以我们可以同时独立地操控颜色和适口性。
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So we can simultaneously and independently manipulate color and palatability.
- Derek: 换句话说,研究人员可以把白蚁弄成红色且苦涩的,灰色且美味的,或者如果他们想捉弄蜘蛛,也可以弄成灰色且苦涩的,或者红色且美味的。
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- In other words, the researchers can make the termites red and bitter, gray and tasty, or if they want to mess with the spiders, gray and bitter, or red and tasty.
实验的第一部分是训练阶段。
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The first part of the experiment is the training phase.
基本上,蜘蛛可以从一个微型白蚁自助餐中选择猎物,每只白蚁都在自己的小培养皿中。
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Basically, the spiders get to choose from a tiny buffet of termite prey, each one in its own little Petri dish.
- Lisa Taylor: 在三个培养皿中,它们得到一只涂有红色、味道苦涩的白蚁,然后在另外三个培养皿中,它们得到一只涂有灰色、非常美味的白蚁。
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- [Lisa] In three of the Petri dishes, they get a red-painted, bitter-tasting termite, and then the other three Petri dishes, they get a gray-painted, very tasty termite.
当它们与这些猎物互动时,它们不断地学习,并且不断得到强化,即每当它们攻击红色的东西时,它们就会吃到一口味道苦涩的白蚁,而每当它们攻击灰色的东西时,它们就会吃到一口美味的白蚁。
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As they interact with this prey, they are constantly learning and it's constantly being reinforced that whenever they attack something red, they get a mouthful of bitter-tasting termite, and whenever they attack something gray, they get a mouthful of tasty termite.
第一批进行这个实验的蜘蛛是Habronattus pyrrithrix,我们从它们开始,因为我们知道它们拥有良好的色彩视觉,可以延伸到长波长。
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The first spiders to go through this experiment are Habronattus pyrrithrix, and we started with them because we know that they have good color vision that extends into the long wavelengths.
- Derek: Habronattus pyrrithrix是利用其一些绿色敏感视锥细胞前的红色滤光片来感知红色的物种之一。
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- [Derek] Habronattus pyrrithrix is one of the species that can see red using a red filter in front of some of its green-sensitive cone cells.
- Lisa Taylor: 我们迄今为止的数据表明,这些蜘蛛非常擅长学习规则。
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- [Lisa] Our data so far suggests that the spiders are really good at learning the rules.
- Derek: 一旦它们学会了规则,真正的实验就开始了。
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- And once they learn the rules, then the real experiment begins.
蜘蛛在一个与它们受训时的白蚁自助餐设置相同的环境中寻找所有食物,但对于一半的蜘蛛来说,有一个很大的不同。
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The spiders hunt for all their food in a setup just like the termite buffet where they were trained, except that for half of the spiders there's a big difference.
一些白蚁仍然很苦,但它们都是灰色的。
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Some of the termites are still bitter, but they're all gray.
颜色线索消失了。
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The color cues are gone.
现在,问题变成了,那些有颜色线索可用的蜘蛛,换句话说,那些苦涩白蚁仍然是红色的蜘蛛,它们表现得更好吗?
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Now, the question becomes do the spiders that have color cues available, in other words, the ones for which bitter termites are still red, do they do better?
- Lisa Taylor: 所以我们迄今为止的数据显示,当它们能够接触到这些颜色线索时,它们确实表现得更好,它们产卵更早,而且如果在有颜色线索的治疗组中,实验结束时它们的体重也更重。
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- So our data so far show that they do fare better when they have access to those color cues, they lay eggs sooner, and that they're also heavier at the end of the experiment if they're in the treatment group where they have access to color cues.
- Derek: 关于灵长类动物进化出扩展色彩视觉的一个假设是为了区分成熟和未成熟的水果,或者嫩叶和老硬的叶子,换句话说,就是区分好食物和坏食物,有点像这些蜘蛛正在做的事情。
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- One hypothesis for why primates evolved expanded color vision is to distinguish ripe from unripe fruit, or tender new leaves from older, tougher ones, in other words, telling good food apart from bad food, kind of like what these spiders are doing.
- Lisa Taylor: 在这里,我们在跳蛛中获得了这种证据,我们将在其他具有不同色彩视觉形式的跳蛛物种中反复测试这一点。
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- Here, we've got this kind of evidence in a jumping spider, and we're gonna repeatedly test that in other jumping spider species that have different forms of color vision.
- Derek: 团队预测,拥有扩展色彩视觉的蜘蛛将利用颜色线索来获得优势。
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- The team predicts that spiders with expanded color vision will use color cues to their advantage.
所以当颜色能告诉它们哪些猎物味道不好时,它们会表现得更好。
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So they'll do better when color can tell them which prey items taste bad.
看不到红色的物种将不会从警告色或训练中获得任何好处。
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Species that can't see red won't get any benefit from the warning colors, or from the training.
如果数据支持这些预测,这将是任何物种中首批揭示看到和区分更多颜色具有进化优势的实验之一。
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If the data support these predictions, these will be some of the first experiments in any species to reveal an evolutionary advantage to seeing and discriminating more colors.
但进食行为并非全部,因为蜘蛛还有更多惊喜。
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But feeding behavior can't be the whole story, because the spiders had some more surprises in store.
意外发现:红色与深度错觉
- Nathan: 例如,在中美洲有一种跳蛛属叫做Mexigonus,其中雄性,而且只有雄性,在求偶时会在身体的某些部位展现出令人难以置信的鲜红色。
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- For example, there's a genus of jumping spiders in Central America called Mexigonus, where males and only males sport incredibly bright red colors on parts of their body that they use during courtship.
- Lisa Taylor: 我们确信雌性一定在注意红色,将其与其他颜色区分开来。
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- We thought for sure the female has gotta be paying attention to red, distinguishing it from other colors.
它们一定以某种特殊的方式拥有红色视觉。
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They've gotta have red color vision in some special way.
- Nathan: 事实证明,至少根据我们的测量,它们没有能力看到红色。
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- And it turns out that at least by our measurements, they don't have the ability to see red.
它们的主眼视网膜中只有对紫外线和绿色敏感的细胞。
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They just have UV and green-sensitive cells in those principal eye retinas.
- Lisa Taylor: 我一点也不介意被证明是错的。
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- I don't mind being proved wrong at all.
这通常意味着更令人兴奋的事情,因为它意味着,哦,天哪,世界上有一些酷而新奇的东西,对吧?
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It usually means something more exciting, because it means that, oh my God, there's something cool and new in the world, right?
而且你学到了新东西。
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And you've learned something new.
- Derek: 那么这里发生了什么?
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- So what's going on here?
为了帮助回答这个问题,也许是为了理解为什么有些蜘蛛会用它们看不到的颜色互相展示,是时候重新审视跳蛛的视网膜了。
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To help answer that question and maybe understand why some spiders are displaying to one another with colors they can't see, it's time to revisit the jumping spider retina.
- Nathan: 它们不像我们那样只有一层视网膜,而是有多层半透明的视网膜堆叠在一起。
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- Instead of just one retina like we have, they have a stack of translucent retinas right on top of each other.
- Derek: 我们认为这种分层的一个作用是纠正光学系统给视网膜带来的问题。
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- One thing that we think that this layering does is to correct for a problem that the optics present to the retina.
这被称为色差(Chromatic Aberration: 光学透镜对不同波长光线折射率不同,导致不同颜色光线无法汇聚于同一焦点的现象)。
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It's called chromatic aberration.
大多数光学材料,如这些玻璃棱镜,对短波长光(如蓝色和紫外线)的折射或弯曲程度比长波长光(如红色)更强。
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Most optical materials, like these glass prisms, refract, or bend short wavelength light, like blue and UV, more strongly than long wavelength light, like red.
这就是色差。
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That's chromatic aberration.
镜头也会这样。
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Lenses do this, too.
在用老式相机镜头拍摄的照片中,你经常可以在高对比度边缘看到一圈彩色边缘。
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In photos taken with vintage camera lenses, you can often see a fringe of color around high contrast edges.
相机中的传感器是一个单一的平面感光点层。
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The sensor in a camera is a single flat layer of photosites.
因此,让不同颜色的光聚焦在同一平面上至关重要。
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So getting the different colors of light to focus in the same plane is critical.
现代相机镜头通过复杂的光学设计(Optical Designs: 指透镜、反射镜等光学元件的组合与排列,以实现特定成像功能)和许多镜片元件来校正色差。
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Modern camera lenses correct for chromatic aberration using complicated optical designs with lots of lens elements.
- Nathan: 但另一种解决方案是将不同颜色敏感的细胞放置在透镜后面合适的深度,以便它们敏感的颜色能够正确聚焦。
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- But the other solution is to put different color-sensitive cells at the right depths behind the lenses, so that the colors that they're sensitive to are in proper focus.
- Derek: 这正是跳蛛视网膜所做的,这让我们离理解红色对一只实际上看不到红色的蜘蛛意味着什么又近了一步。
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- That's exactly what jumping spider retinas do, and this gets us one step closer to understanding what red might mean to a spider that can't actually see red.
在跳蛛的眼睛中,对短波长敏感的细胞通常更靠近透镜,而对长波长敏感的细胞则更远。
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In the jumping spider eye, the cells sensitive to shorter wavelengths are generally closer to the lens, and those sensitive to longer wavelengths are farther away.
但大多数跳蛛是双色视者。
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But most jumping spiders are dichromats.
它们只有两种视锥细胞类型。
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They only have two cone cell types.
那么为什么它们的视网膜有四层呢?
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So why have four layers in their retinas?
- Nathan: 通常,最底部或离透镜最远的两层,我们称之为第一层和第二层。
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- [Nathan] Typically, the bottom, or farthest away from the lens two tiers, we call those tiers 1 and 2.
这两层通常都只对绿光敏感。
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Those are both typically sensitive just to green light.
有了这样的视网膜,世界中的一个物体在第二层中可能与在第一层中呈现出不同的焦点。
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And with a retina like that, an object in that world might appear in different focus in tier 2 than in tier 1.
- Derek: 日本的研究人员已经表明,跳蛛实际上可以利用这种焦点差异来感知环境中的深度和距离。
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- [Derek] Researchers in Japan have shown that jumping spiders can actually use this discrepancy in focus to perceive depth and distance in their environment.
- Nathan: 但这个系统有一个缺陷。
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- But there is a liability with this system.
它只在你只使用一种颜色的光时才有效,比如绿色。
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It only works if you're just using one color of light, like green.
如果你开始混合其他颜色的光,例如红色,那么系统就会产生错误。
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If you start to mix in other colors of light, for example, red, then the system creates errors.
本质上,像红色这样的颜色可能会产生一种靠近或向接收者逼近的感觉,这将为观察者提供一种完全不同的感知体验。
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Essentially, colors like red might create this perception of being close, or being looming towards the receiver, and that would provide a totally different perceptual experience for the viewer.
- Derek: 所以跳蛛的红色着色可能在另一只跳蛛看来不是红色,而是产生一种深度错觉。
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- So a jumping spider's red coloration might not look red to another jumping spider, but instead create a sort of depth illusion.
但雄性蜘蛛为什么会通过展示光学错觉来受益呢?
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But why would a male spider benefit from displaying an optical illusion?
- Lisa Taylor: 关于跳蛛的一件事是,雌性对潜在的配偶通常相当具有攻击性。
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- One thing about jumping spiders is that females often are quite aggressive towards prospective mates.
事实上,它们常常会吃掉雄性,而不是允许它们交配。
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In fact, they can often eat the male rather than allowing him to mate with them.
所以这些雄性在为雌性跳舞时,在许多情况下实际上是在为它们的生命跳舞。
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So these males, when they're dancing for females, are really actually dancing for their lives in many instances.
- Derek: 如果雌性认为雄性比实际距离更近,这可能会打乱它的攻击,或者混淆雌性可能会以其他方式带来好处。
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- [Derek] If a female thinks a male is closer than he really is, that could throw off her attack, or maybe confusing the female pays off in other ways.
- Lisa Taylor: 如果她无法完全弄清楚雄性的展示,她可能会停留更长时间地关注它,这可能会导致雄性在求偶结束时获得更好的结果。
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- If she can't quite figure out the male's display, she might stick around paying attention to it for longer, and this might result in better outcomes for the male at the end of courtship.
- Derek: 而且,多情的雄性蜘蛛可能不是唯一利用这些深度错觉的。
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- [Derek] And amorous male spiders might not be the only ones exploiting these depth delusions.
- Nathan: 所以想象一下一个红色的猎物。
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- So imagine a red prey item.
我们可能会看着它说:“那可能是有毒的,它正在警告鸟类它有毒。”
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We might look at it and say, "That's probably toxic, and it's warning birds that it's toxic."
但另一种可能性是它之所以是红色,仅仅是为了让它看起来更靠近跳蛛,这样它就有更好的机会逃脱。
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But another possibility is that it's red simply to look like it's closer to a jumping spider, so that it has a better chance of escaping.
我们还看到一些小昆虫身上有红色和蓝色的图案,这会创造一个非常复杂的视觉错觉,可能只是让它感到困惑,并需要更长的时间才能判断距离。
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We also see small insects with red and blue patterns on them, which would create a really complicated visual illusion that might simply baffle it, and require it a longer period of time before it judge this distance.
即使是瞬间的犹豫也可能非常重要。
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Even a split second can really matter.
- Derek: 但在这场猫捉老鼠的小游戏中,一只能够看到并区分红色和绿色的蜘蛛将更难被愚弄。
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- But in this tiny game of cat and mouse, a spider that could see and discriminate red from green would be a lot harder to fool,
这可能是色彩视觉的另一个令人惊讶的好处,一个根本与颜色无关的好处。
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and this could be another surprising benefit of color vision, one that isn't really about color at all.
- Nathan: 我们真正需要问的是,这个假设是否合理,需要对它们眼睛中物体(包括视网膜和晶状体)的距离进行非常好的高分辨率测量,这些测量来自活体动物。
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- And what we really need to ask whether, or not this hypothesis is even plausible is really good high resolution measurements of the distances of things in their eyes, including the retina and the lenses, from live animals.
- Derek: 这种信息你不能仅仅从显微镜载玻片上的保存标本中获得,但还有另一种方法。
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- [Derek] This information you can't just get from preserved specimens on microscope slides, but there is another way.
通过使用一个名为先进光子源(Advanced Photon Source: 美国阿贡国家实验室的一台粒子加速器,产生高亮度X射线用于科学研究)的粒子加速器,研究人员已经开始通过蜘蛛的外骨骼(Exoskeletons: 节肢动物等无脊椎动物体表的坚硬保护层)收集高分辨率X射线视频。
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By using a particle accelerator called the Advanced Photon Source, the researchers have started to collect high resolution X-ray videos through the spider's exoskeletons.
- Nathan: 这以前从未做过。
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- This has never been done before.
这是X射线,所以我们可以透过它们的眼睛,我们可以看到这些眼管是如何移动的。
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It's in X-ray, so we can see through their eyes, and we can see how these eye tubes are moving around.
- Derek: 如果蜘蛛的视网膜运动改变了它们的眼管的形状或长度,那将影响它们感知的能力。
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- [Derek] If the spider's retinal movements change the shape, or length of their eye tubes, that'll affect what they're capable of perceiving.
- Nathan: 它会改变它们体验深度的方式。
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- It would change how they experience depth.
它会改变它们体验颜色的方式。
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It would change how they experience color.
以前,这些信息只能通过解剖获得。
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Previously, this information has only been collected from dissections.
所以我们非常兴奋能获得蜘蛛头部内部在进行复杂视觉运动时超高分辨率的视频。
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So we're very excited to get super high resolution videos of the inside of the spider's head as it's performing complicated visual motions.
- Derek: 不幸的是,在他们最初的测试几个月后,先进光子源关闭进行升级,这将需要一年多的时间才能完成。
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- Unfortunately, a few months after their initial tests, the Advanced Photon Source shut down for upgrades that'll take over a year to complete.
所以看起来我们还需要等待一段时间才能得到团队一直在寻找的一些答案。
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So it looks like we'll have to wait a little longer for some of the answers the team has been looking for.
- Nathan: 我们知道视网膜可以移动,并且它们可能有50到60度的移动范围。
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- We know that the retinas can be moved around and that they maybe have between a 50 and 60-degree travel.
它们不仅可以在水平面上移动,还可以在垂直面上移动,而且它们实际上可以扭曲以改变其视野的方向。
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Not only can they be moved in the horizontal plane, but in the vertical plane, and they can actually be twisted to change the orientation of their field of view.
- Derek: 问题是这些运动如何影响蜘蛛的聚焦能力,或者它们如何感知深度,甚至它们如何感知颜色?
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- The question is how do these movements affect what the spiders can focus on, or how they sense depth, or even how they perceive color?
正是这种聚焦、深度和颜色之间的联系使得这些蜘蛛如此引人入胜。
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It's this connection between focus, depth, and color that makes these spiders so intriguing.
- Nathan: 它引发了关于颜色到底是什么的各种问题。
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- It opens up all sorts of questions about what color is in the first place.
色彩的本质:进化之舞与感知宇宙
- Derek: 显然,这些蜘蛛在色彩视觉、它如何以及为何进化,以及即使在单一动物群体中它能采取多少种形式方面,有很多东西可以教给我们。
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- It's already clear that these spiders have a lot to teach us about color vision, how and why it evolves, and how many forms it can take even within a single group of animals.
如果我们对它们视觉系统的理解是正确的,那么跳蛛的颜色体验甚至可能是三维的,以一种与我们看待世界完全不同的方式。
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If our understanding of their visual system is correct, the experience of color for jumping spiders might even be three-dimensional in a way that's totally different from how we see the world.
我们甚至还没有谈论它们的其他感官,比如它们通过振动进行交流的能力。
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And we haven't even talked about their other senses, like their ability to communicate through vibration.
当你思考时,你会意识到我们人类感知的宇宙,即使拥有我们所有的技术,也只是浩瀚宇宙中的一小部分。
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When you think about it, you realize that the universe we humans perceive, even with all our technology, is just a sliver of what's out there.
- Nathan: 如果我们对世界有什么亏欠,那就是让世界以其自身的丰满被体验。
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- If we owe anything to the world, it's to allow the world to be experienced in the fullness of itself.
我认为这是灭绝的悲剧之一,即丧失了一种通常是完全独特的体验世界的方式,一种我们可能甚至无法想象的体验世界的方式。
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I think this is one of the tragedies of extinction is the loss of oftentimes a totally unique way of experiencing our world, a way of experiencing our world that we probably couldn't even imagine.
- Derek: 那么颜色,它是什么?
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- So color, what is it?
它是物体固有的属性,像亚里士多德所认为的那样,还是只存在于感知它的心中,像伽利略所相信的那样?
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Is it an intrinsic property of an object, like Aristotle thought, or something that exists only in the mind perceiving it, like Galileo believed?
也许这不是一个非此即彼的问题。
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Maybe it's not an either/or question.
- Nathan: 我的信念是,颜色是通过眼睛看到的世界和眼睛所看到的世界的进化而产生的。
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- My belief is that color is something that emerges through the evolution of the eyes that see the world and the world that the eyes see.
颜色作为一个事物,是通过这种舞蹈,这种世界可感知的部分与感知者之间的进化之舞而产生的。
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Color as a thing emerges through this dance, this evolutionary dance between what can be sensed about the world and those that are sensing it.
- Derek: 正是这种持续了数百万代的舞蹈,创造了我们所居住的这个多彩世界,并塑造了我们和我们的同类生命形式体验它的无数方式。
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- It's that dance playing out over millions of generations that created the colorful world we inhabit, and shaped the countless ways that we and our fellow life forms experience it.
过来。
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Come to me.
好吧,没那么远。
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Okay, not that far.
啊!
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Ah!
它们被称为跳蛛并非没有原因。
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They're not called jumping spiders for nothing.
是的,来吧。
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Yeah, come on.
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