民主党的愤怒与共和党的复仇:2026年中期选举初选大幕开启 New York Times Podcasts 2026-05-05

2026 年中期选举:共和党的复仇与民主党的变革

Michael Barbaro: 欢迎收听《纽约时报》的《每日新闻》,我是 Michael Barbaro。在未来几周即将拉开帷幕的全国初选中,共和党将测试选民对“复仇”的胃口,而民主党则将测试选民对“变革”的渴望。今天,我们邀请到了 Shane GoldmacherLisa LererReid Epstein,共同解读从肯塔基州到密歇根州的关键选情。

Original English

Michael Barbaro: From the New York Times, I'm Michael Barbaro. This is the Daily. In primary elections across the country, starting over the next few weeks, the Republican Party will test its voters' appetite for revenge, while the Democratic Party will test its voters' appetite for change. Today, Shane Goldmacher, Lisa Lerer, and Reid Epstein on how to understand key elections from Michigan to Kentucky.

Michael Barbaro: 欢迎各位参加 2026 年第一场中期选举圆桌会议。我请你们三位来是因为初选季节最激烈的阶段即将开始。从今天开始,民主党和共和党选民将开始在各级竞选中挑选他们的提名人。在特朗普第二次总统任期的后半段,这些角逐将揭示两党在争夺国家主导权方面的走向。我们从哪里开始?

Original English

Michael Barbaro: Lisa, Reid, Shane, welcome to the first midterm election round table of 2026. Okay, we're bringing you three together for this conversation because arguably the most intense phase of the primary season is about to get underway. Over the next few weeks, literally starting today, Democratic and Republican voters will start to pick their nominees in races all the way up and down the ballot. And on both sides, the contests are going to start to tell us a bigger story about where the two parties are as they seek to control the country's direction in the second half of the second Trump presidency. Where do you want to start this conversation?

共和党选情:深陷泥潭与“复仇之旅”

Lisa Lerer: 我认为先了解一下整体格局很有帮助,现在距离中期选举不到 6 个月。从共和党开始看,目前的问题不是中期选举对他们来说是否糟糕,而是会有多糟糕

Original English

Lisa Lerer: Well, I think it's helpful to get a sense of the overall landscape now that we're less than 6 months out from these midterms. And I think it's helpful to start with Republicans because really when you look at these races, it's not a question of whether these midterms will be bad for Republicans. It's a question of how bad they will be.

Michael Barbaro: “糟糕程度”的等级。

Original English

Michael Barbaro: Levels of badness.

Lisa Lerer: 没错。因为现任总统非常不受欢迎,他发动的战争也极度不得人心。在经济问题上,尽管这是选民投票给特朗普政府的核心原因,但没有迹象表明选民对生活成本的感觉有所好转。事实上,数据显示选民对住房、杂货和汽油价格的感觉更糟了。在这些初选中发生的事情将决定大选的动态。

Original English

Lisa Lerer: Levels of badness. And that is because the president is deeply unpopular. He's waging a war that is deeply unpopular. And on economic issues, which was really a central reason why voters elected the Trump administration, we have no indication that voters feel better about the cost of living of basic goods. In fact, there's tons of economic data that shows they feel worse about things like housing and groceries and gas. That's for the general election. Before we get to that point, how the general election dynamics shake out and the degree of badness will be shaped by what happens in these primaries that we're now about to enter the heaviest period of.

Reid Epstein: 我在与共和党战略家交谈时,他们说目前对党内来说确实是个糟糕的时刻,但好在现在才 5 月,距离正式投票还有几个月。他们的挫败感在于,唐纳德·特朗普并没有专注于扭转对共和党不利的议题趋势,反而表现得相当心不在焉。

Original English

Reid Epstein: I mean, look, when I've been talking with Republican strategists, what they say about this sort of really bad moment for the party, the best thing is that it's still May, that there are many months until October and then November when the voters actually cast ballots for whether it's a Democrat or a Republican this fall. Their frustration has been that Donald Trump has not been focused on turning the tide on the issues that are going against the Republican party.

Shane Goldmacher: 特朗普在初选中真正关注的是一场“复仇之旅”。他设定了一个唯一的标准:你是否对他忠诚?如果你以前违背过他的意愿,他就要你下台;他想让那些由他亲自招募、并相信入职后会步调一致投票的人上台。这在印第安纳州、肯塔基州和路易斯安那州表现得最明显。

Original English

Shane Goldmacher: Instead, what he's focused on in the upcoming elections in these primaries is a revenge tour. When you look at a suite of races in May, I mean, these are a pretty remarkable set of primaries where President Trump has laid out one singular criteria. Will you be loyal to him? And if you have crossed him before and not done his bidding, he wants you out and he wants people in, some of whom he has personally recruited, who he believes once in office will vote lock step with him into the future. And you can see that represent best in three states: Indiana, Kentucky, and Louisiana.

印第安纳州:选区重划引发的党内清洗

Shane Goldmacher: 在印第安纳州,特朗普罕见地深度介入州参议员级别的初选。他正试图罢免六名以上的州参议员,原因是去年秋天他们拒绝配合他重划选区、剥离两个民主党席位的努力。他在愤怒中表示,所有反对的人都需要被投票赶走。

Original English

Shane Goldmacher: I think you should start with the races that are on Tuesday in Indiana. And this is really an unusual level of campaign for a president to be involved in. We're not talking about congressional primaries or US Senate primaries. We're talking about more than a half dozen state senators in Indiana whom Donald Trump is trying to get out of office. And the reason he is opposed to them is that they refuse to go along with his effort to redistrict to the state and carve up two Democratic seats last fall. And in his frustration, he said everyone who opposed this needs to be voted out.

Donald Trump (音频): 那个参议院负责人,好像叫 Bray 什么的,我听说他反对。他可能会在下一次初选中落选,我是这么希望的。我会支持任何想挑战他的人。

Original English

Donald Trump (audio): You had one gentleman, the head of the Senate, I guess, Bray, whatever his name is. Uh, I heard he was against it. He probably lose his next primary, whatever that is. I hope. I'll certainly support anybody that wants to go against it.

Reid Epstein: 值得提醒的是,特朗普当时要求印第安纳州议会重划地图以增加共和党席位。在正常情况下,共和党控制的议会通常会配合他,比如在德克萨斯州和北卡罗来纳州。但印第安纳州的共和党领袖由于政治和道德原因拒绝了,他们不想被看作是听命于华盛顿的傀儡。

Original English

Reid Epstein: Just to remind folks what happened that was so offensive to Trump in Indiana, he asks the Indiana state legislature to redraw that state's maps in order to pick up a couple more Republican seats, which inevitably means delete Democratic seats. And under normal circumstances, Republican controlled legislators have performed that role for Trump. Indiana was one place where the Republican leaders in the state senate resisted Trump's effort to do. They objected on political and moral grounds. They didn't want to be seen taking orders from Donald Trump in Washington.

Lisa Lerer: 这种拒绝的部分原因是选民(包括共和党选民)并不支持重划选区。选民更希望议员关注生活成本议题。现在,这些州议员被迫陷入与总统的高昂竞选对抗中,资金规模已经从通常的 20 万美元飙升到了数百万人。

Original English

Lisa Lerer: Part of the reason they said no, is that redistricting was unpopular with their voters, including with Republican voters. What voters said is they would prefer that their representatives focus on cost of living issues. Now they're caught in these very expensive races against the president over this issue that voters didn't really want in the first place. Normally a state house race, you're talking $200,000 maybe. We're now seeing millions of dollars flood into these races.

肯塔基州与路易斯安那州:不留余地的忠诚测试

Reid Epstein: 下一场角逐在肯塔基州,现任国会议员 Thomas Massie 一直是特朗普的心头之患。虽然 Massie 非常保守,但他曾在多项法案和战争议题上反对特朗普。特朗普招募了前海豹突击队员 Ed Gallrein 来挑战他,并在社交媒体上痛斥 Massie 是“失败者”和“灾难”。

Original English

Reid Epstein: Well, the next race is in Kentucky where the primaries in a couple weeks and one of the incumbent congressman named Thomas Massie has been a bit of a thorn in Trump's side for a while. He's a very conservative Republican, but he has opposed Trump on things like the Epstein files, now in the Iran war and Trump and his political team recruited an opponent for him in the primary, a former Navy Seal named Ed Gallrein. Trump calls him a loser, a disaster. I mean, it's very unsparing.

Shane Goldmacher: Massie 实际上在 90% 的时间里都与党内步调一致,但他会公开嘲笑他不同意的议题,比如预算膨胀或海外战争。Massie 把这次竞选看作是一个机会,旨在证明党内应该有批评总统的空间。但这很难,因为像 Liz Cheney 这样公开批评特朗普的人通常都没有很长的国会生涯。

Original English

Shane Goldmacher: I mean, Massie really stands alone among Republicans running for reelection being vocally critical of Donald Trump. He votes with them 90% of the time, but he's like mocking him. He sees his race as an opportunity for others in the party to maybe step out when they do disagree with Donald Trump. It's about: will the party continue to side with Trump even when they quietly disagree with him.

Michael Barbaro: 最后,关于路易斯安那州的参议员 Bill Cassidy 呢?

Original English

Michael Barbaro: Finally, on the Republican side, there's the president's efforts to oust a foe in Louisiana. Shane, can you quickly tell us what's happening there?

Shane Goldmacher: Cassidy 在 2021 年投票支持弹劾特朗普,这是他无法抹去的“原罪”。尽管他后来试图弥补,投票确认了 RFK 作为卫生部部长的任命,但特朗普还是支持了众议员 Julia Letlow 来挑战他。这反映了参议院作为最后一个对特朗普不具备“无条件忠诚”的机构正在发生转变。

Original English

Shane Goldmacher: This is Senator Bill Cassidy. Cassidy is running for reelection despite having voted to convict Donald Trump of impeachment in 2021. But the original sin of voting to convict is not something that the president has forgotten. And so he has endorsed a primary challenger to Cassidy, a congresswoman named Julia Letlow. I wonder if taking out Cassidy does help us understand what seems inevitably to be the complete magnification of not just the House, but also eventually the Senate.

民主党选情:在荒野中的身份危机

Lisa Lerer: 民主党在 2024 年惨败后,正处于一种严重的危机感中。民调显示,大量民主党选民甚至不喜欢自己的政党,不知道党派代表什么。这是一个身处“荒野”的政党,党内在代际更替、对抗特朗普的策略以及反对的激烈程度上存在严重分歧。

Original English

Lisa Lerer: Well, look, Democrats came out of their 2024 defeat with a real sense that they were a party in crisis. Large swaths of Democratic voters saying that they don't like their own party. They don't know what their party stands for. And this is a party that really is in the wilderness. There's debates over generational change. I think there's a real sense in the party grassroots that they need new leaders. There's real divides over how to oppose every single element of this Trump administration.

Michael Barbaro: 这种身份危机在缅因州爆发了,现任州长 Janet Mills(建制派的选择)面临着来自草根候选人 Graham Platner 的猛烈挑战。Platner 是一名捕蚝人,几乎没有政治背景,但他把自己塑造成一个了解工人阶级经济困境的人。

Original English

Michael Barbaro: And I think that identity crisis just exploded in Maine where you had this primary between Governor Janet Mills, the establishment candidate, and she was facing a very fierce challenge from Graham Platner, who's a total political unknown. He's an oyster man. He's fashioning himself as a working-class candidate who understands authentically the kind of economic struggles.

Lisa Lerer: 仅仅一周前,Janet Mills 突然宣布退出初选,理由是经费耗尽,但实质上是 Platner 在民调中大幅领先。这对民主党领导层来说非常震惊,因为他们对 Platner 感到非常焦虑——他曾有极具争议的网络言论史,甚至胸口曾有纳粹标志的纹身(他声称当时不知道其含义)。但民主党基层对建制派的愤怒如此之大,以至于他们宁愿选择一个未经测试甚至有缺陷的候选人。

Original English

Lisa Lerer: The news broke that Janet Mills was dropping out of the race. But there was also a sense that he was unbeatable for her. Democratic leaders are very anxious about Graham Platner. This is someone who has a pretty long documented history of very controversial comments online. It also was revealed that he had a tattoo of a Nazi insignia, which he said he didn't know what it was at the time. But the fury at the party establishment is so great that Democratic voters in Maine appeared willing to take a chance on this untested candidate.

Reid Epstein: 参议院民主党领袖 Chuck Schumer 多年来的策略是挑选“保险”的建制派人选。但现在选民和部分议员不再买账。Schumer 已经 70 多岁了,还拿着翻盖手机,他的形象与选民对“极限对抗特朗普”的渴望不符。

Original English

Reid Epstein: And that has been the Schumer MO for almost 20 years. And what we are hearing from voters is that they don't want this anymore. Schumer is in his 70s and he certainly does not present as somebody who is a man of the moment, right? He famously carries a flip phone. He's not somebody who fits the moment that Democrats believe requires maximum opposition to what Trump is doing.

普遍的主题:愤怒

Michael Barbaro: 总结一下,所有这些初选的主题似乎都是“愤怒”。特朗普在愤怒,他想清洗对手;民主党选民在愤怒,他们想清洗建制派。哪种愤怒会占据上风?

Original English

Michael Barbaro: Just to wrap up this conversation, it feels like the universal theme across all these primaries is anger. Trump's got his anger at his opponents. Democrats are trying to figure out how to handle the anger among their voters. So, how are you thinking about which of these angers might prevail?

Shane Goldmacher: 长久以来,押注特朗普的愤怒与选民合流通常都是赢家。但在民主党内,这种规模的愤怒是前所未有的。他们不再对党内领导层(如南希·佩洛西时代的标志性人物)感到满意。今年的大考在于,仅凭“反特朗普”是否足够?利用选民对国家现状的愤怒是否才是重夺权力的关键?

Original English

Shane Goldmacher: Betting on Donald Trump's anger, aligning with the anger of voters has been a good bet in Republican primaries for a really long time. There's not a record of this level of anger in Democratic primaries. For years, Democrats looked up to Nancy Pelosi. They're not happy with the leadership now. Is tapping into the voters' anger at what's happening in the country actually the way to win this year?

Michael Barbaro: 感谢三位。

Original English

Michael Barbaro: Well, Lisa, Shane, Reed, thank you very much.


今日要闻补充

Michael Barbaro: 此外,中东停火协议在维持四周后出现裂痕。在美国宣布引导两艘舰船通过霍尔木兹海峡后,伊朗向美国军舰和商船发射了导弹和无人机。美方表示已击沉六艘威胁美舰的伊朗快艇。目前尚不清楚这是否意味着战争已经全面恢复。

Original English

Michael Barbaro: Here's what else you need to know today. On Monday, the 4-week old ceasefire in the Middle East appeared to falter. Shortly after the United States announced it had guided two American ships through the straight of Hormuz, Iran launched missiles and drones against American warships and commercial vessels. The US said it sank six Iranian speedboats. It's unclear for now whether the Iranian attacks mean that the war has now resumed.

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