地缘冲突、政策调整与新兴趋势:深度访谈精选 New York Times Podcasts 2026-04-17

中东停火与地缘政治动态

Tracy Mumford: 来自《纽约时报》,播报头条新闻。我是 Tracy Mumford。今天是星期五,4月17日。以下是我们今天关注的内容。

Original English

Tracy Mumford: From the New York Times, it's the headlines. I'm Tracy Mumford. Today's Friday, April 17th. Here's what we're covering.

Tracy Mumford: 我和我的同事们正走在连接贝鲁特黎巴嫩南部的主要高速公路上。我们不得不弃车,因为这里的交通状况非常糟糕。自停火协议宣布以来,数千名从南部家园流离失所的家庭正在返回。

Original English

Tracy Mumford: My colleagues and I are walking down the main highway that connects Beirut to southern Lebanon. We left our car because the traffic coming down here is so bad. Thousands of families who were displaced from their homes in the south have been making their way back since the announcement of a ceasefire.

Christina Goldbomb: 《泰晤士报》记者 Christina Goldbomb 正在黎巴嫩前线报道,昨晚一项为期10天的停火协议生效,旨在停止以色列部队与伊朗支持的武装组织之间的战斗。由于以色列军方炸毁了沿此高速公路连接南北的两座主要桥梁,现在仅剩一条临时的土路供人们通行。车辆一辆接一辆地通过,这意味着许多人可能要在这里待上一整天,甚至整个晚上,才能回到南部的家。目前仍有一种不安的感觉。人们告诉我们,他们不确定停火能否持续,也不知道接下来会发生什么。但许多人也表示,他们至少想回家看看,看看他们的土地,了解在过去一个半月的战争后,还剩下什么。

Original English

Christina Goldbomb: Times reporter Christina Goldbomb is on the ground in Lebanon where a 10-day ceasefire went into place late last night intended to stop the fighting between Israeli forces and the Iranbacked militant group. Since the Israeli military has bombed the two main bridges connecting the north to the south along this highway, there's now just this one crossing kind of dirt ad hoc road crossing that people are using. Their cars are going one by one across, meaning that many are probably going to stay here throughout the day, maybe even through tonight, trying to get back to their homes in the south. Now, there's still this kind of uneasy feeling. People have been telling us that they aren't sure whether the ceasefire will hold or what will come next. But many have also said that they at least want to go and see their homes, see their lands, and get a sense of what is left after the last month and a half of war.

Tracy Mumford: 自3月以来,以色列一直在黎巴嫩进行最新的军事行动,针对真主党。据黎巴嫩当局称,已有超过2100人死亡,超过100万人流离失所。这场战斗还可能破坏美国与伊朗停火协议。考虑到这一点,美国一直在积极推动这项协议。总统特朗普是第一个宣布该协议的。需要了解的是,该协议名义上是以色列黎巴嫩之间达成的,而黎巴嫩政府对真主党没有直接控制权。但真主党曾遵守过黎巴嫩政府谈判达成的一些过往协议。真主党尚未表示是否会接受此次休战,只说其行动将“根据事态发展而定”。以色列方面,总理本雅明·内塔尼亚胡表示,该国部队将在停火期间留在黎巴嫩南部。他将以色列在该地区控制的土地称为一个扩大的安全区,并说:“我们不会离开。”

Original English

Tracy Mumford: Israel's been carrying out its latest military campaign against Hezbollah in Lebanon since March. More than 2100 people have been killed and more than a million have been displaced, according to Lebanese authorities. The fighting has also threatened to derail the US's ceasefire with Iran. With that in mind, the US had really been pushing for this deal. President Trump was the first to announce it. The thing to know is that the agreement is technically between Israel and Lebanon, and the Lebanese government doesn't have direct control over Hezbollah. But the militant group has abided by some previous deals the Lebanese government negotiated. Hezbollah hasn't said if it will accept this truce, only that its actions will be quote based on how developments unfold. On Israel's part, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said that his country's troops will remain in southern Lebanon during the ceasefire. He referred to the land Israel has taken control of there as an expanded security zone and said, quote, "We are not leaving."

美国与伊朗的战争及政策更新

Tracy Mumford: 现在,关于伊朗战争有三个快速更新。首先,

Original English

Tracy Mumford: Now, three quick updates on the war with Iran.

First,

Pete Hegsath (引述): “我们的部队已做好最大程度的准备,如果这个新伊朗政权做出糟糕的选择而不接受协议,我们将重启战斗行动。”

Original English

Pete Hegsath (quoted): "our forces are maximally postured to restart combat operations should this new Iranian regime choose poorly and not agree to a deal."

Tracy Mumford: 国防部长彼得·海格斯重申了他对打击伊朗发电厂的威胁。根据国际法,故意攻击能源基础设施可能构成战争罪。我们宁愿不这样做,但我们已准备好随时听从总统的命令,只需按下按钮。

Original English

Tracy Mumford: Secretary of Defense Pete Hegsath renewed his threat to target Iran's power plants. Under international law, intentionally attacking energy infrastructure like that could be a war crime. We'd rather not have to do it, but we're ready to go at the command of our president and at the push of a button.

Tracy Mumford: 自上周末美国伊朗的会谈破裂以来,特朗普政府一直试图加大对伊朗压力,包括对所有进出该国的船只实施海军封锁。此外,

Original English

Tracy Mumford: Since talks between the US and Iran collapsed this past weekend, the Trump administration has been trying to turn up the pressure on Iran, including with a naval blockade on all ships coming or going from the country. Also,

匿名人士 (引述): “我只想确认一下。你一点也不知道,一点也不知道,到目前为止花了多少钱在这场战争上?”

Original English

Unnamed person (quoted): "I just want to confirm this. You have no idea, none, how much has been spent on the war so far?"

匿名人士 (引述): “我们现在没有这个数字。嗯,我想部分原因是因为它每天都在波动。”

Original English

Unnamed person (quoted): "We don't have that figures right now. Um, I think in part because it's fluctuating on a day in dayout basis."

Tracy Mumford: 昨天在国会山上,白宫预算主管回避了关于战争价格标签的问题,曾一度表示他甚至不愿提供一个大致的成本范围。本月早些时候,分析人士估计,美国在对伊朗战争中每天花费约10亿美元。

Original English

Tracy Mumford: On Capitol Hill yesterday, the White House budget director sidestepped questions about the price tag of the war, saying at one point that he wouldn't even give a general cost range. Earlier this month, analysts estimated that the US was spending around $1 billion a day in its campaign against Iran.

Tracy Mumford: 最后一条更新,

Original English

Tracy Mumford: And last update,

Tracy Mumford: “别忘了,由于燃料能源价格,我们正面临一些虚假的通货膨胀,这使得价格上涨到250%。我们正在谈论——”

Original English

Tracy Mumford: "don't forget we're having some fake inflation because of the fuel, the energy prices, which everybody said was going to 250. We're talking about"

唐纳德·特朗普 (引述): 在昨天于拉斯维加斯的一次演讲中,总统特朗普对由于战争扰乱全球石油供应而导致燃油价格上涨不以为意。根据AAA的数据,美国目前司机的平均汽油价格已超过每加仑4美元。机票也更贵了,因为航空燃油成本更高。特朗普淡化了这些对美国人的影响,同时试图展现对美国整体经济的信心。他强调了股市的表现,并大力宣传许多美国人收到的税收退款,告诉人群:“我只想说,不客气。”

Original English

President Trump (quoted): "at a speech in Las Vegas yesterday, President Trump brushed off rising fuel prices caused by the war's disruptions to the global oil supply. According to AAA, the average gas price for drivers in the US right now is over $4 a gallon. Airline tickets are more expensive, too, because of higher jet fuel costs. Trump downplayed the effect of that on Americans as he worked to project confidence about the broader US economy. He highlighted the stock market's performance and talked up the boosted tax refunds many Americans have been getting, telling the crowd, quote, "I just want to say, you're welcome."

疫苗怀疑论与麻疹疫情

Tracy Mumford: 在华盛顿,特朗普政府似乎正在放弃一些它最为强硬的疫苗怀疑论立场,而这一立场曾由卫生部长小罗伯特·F·肯尼迪大力倡导。

Original English

Tracy Mumford: In Washington, the Trump administration appears to be backing off from some of its most strident vaccine skepticism, which was championed by Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

议员 (引述): “你能告诉我,MMR疫苗安全有效吗?是或否?”

Original English

Lawmaker (quoted): "Can you tell me, is the MMR vaccine safe and effective? Yes or no?"

小罗伯特·F·肯尼迪 (引述): “MMR疫苗……”

Original English

Robert F. Kennedy Jr.: "Are the MMR vacc"

议员 (引述): “是或否?”

Original English

Lawmaker (quoted): "Yes or no?"

小罗伯特·F·肯尼迪: “是。对大多数人来说安全吗?”

Original English

Robert F. Kennedy Jr.: "Yes. Is safe for most people?"

Tracy Mumford: 在昨天与议员的一次听证会上,肯尼迪本人同意麻疹疫苗是安全有效的。你能同意接种疫苗比感染麻疹安全得多吗?

Original English

Tracy Mumford: In a hearing with lawmakers yesterday, Kennedy himself agreed that the measles vaccine is safe and effective. Can you agree that getting the vaccine is a lot safer than getting measles?

小罗伯特·F·肯尼迪: “是。”

Original English

Robert F. Kennedy Jr.: "Yes."

Tracy Mumford: 太好了。他还承认,今年早些时候德克萨斯州爆发麻疹期间死亡的两名儿童,如果接种了疫苗,可能就已经幸存了。部长的评论远非完全拥抱疫苗,但它们与他过去的言论形成了鲜明对比。多年来,他一直鼓吹疫苗危险的毫无根据的说法。最近,白宫曾敦促他在中期选举前停止关注疫苗,转而谈论一些政治上不那么棘手的问题,比如健康饮食。同样在昨天,总统特朗普宣布了他领导CDC的新人选,他选择了埃里卡·施瓦茨博士,一位前美国副外科总监,公开支持疫苗

Original English

Tracy Mumford: Terrific. He also acknowledged that two children who died of measles during an outbreak in Texas earlier this year might have survived if they'd been vaccinated. The secretary's comments were far from an outright embrace of the shots, but they stood in stark contrast to his past rhetoric. For years, he's pushed baseless claims about vaccines being dangerous. Recently, the White House had urged him to stop focusing on vaccines ahead of the midterms and to talk about less politically fraught issues like healthy eating. Also yesterday, President Trump announced his new pick to lead the CDC and he chose Dr. Erica Schwarz, a former deputy US surgeon general who has publicly supported vaccines.

Tracy Mumford: 政府在此问题上的语气转变,正值该国持续不断的麻疹爆发疫情继续蔓延之际。最近,犹他州已成为新的中心。那里的卫生部门已报告了近600例病例。大多数是儿童,约有50人住院。犹他州的疫情值得注意,因为与其他近期的麻疹爆发不同,比如德克萨斯州南卡罗来纳州的疫情与孤立的宗教社群有关,而这些病例则出现在更广泛的人群中。盐湖城的一位传染病医生告诉《泰晤士报》,他正在治疗的患病儿童的许多家庭并非反疫苗者,但他们因为对可能副作用的担忧而推迟了疫苗接种,他称之为错误信息的流行。

Original English

Tracy Mumford: The administration's shift in tone on the topic comes as the country's simmering measles outbreak continues to spread. Recently, Utah has become the new center of it. Health authorities there have reported nearly 600 cases. Most have been children and around 50 people have been hospitalized. The spread in Utah is notable because unlike other recent measles outbreaks like those in Texas and South Carolina that have been tied to insular religious communities, these cases are appearing in the broader population. One infectious disease doctor in Salt Lake City told the Times that many families of the sick children that he's been treating are not antivaccine, but they've delayed shots over concerns about possible side effects amid what he called an epidemic of misinformation.

数据中心与人工智能发展

Tracy Mumford: 本月,缅因州可能成为全国第一个禁止新建数据中心的州。随着科技公司竞相获取人工智能所需的计算能力数据中心正在全国各地的田野、农田和森林中涌现。然而,这场建设热潮引发了人们对它们消耗多少以及可能因此推高附近居民公用事业成本的担忧。现在,缅因州的立法者已批准了一项为期18个月的禁令,禁止建造任何大型新计算设施,该法案已提交给州长。然而,缅因州及其他正在积极考虑类似限制的州,对数据中心的抵制可能会与特朗普政府发生冲突。总统已威胁要起诉限制AI行业增长的州,并扣留联邦资金。此外,阻止新建设的努力在地方层面也可能引起争议。例如,在缅因州,一个数据中心项目被宣传为振兴一个废弃的旧工厂并创造就业机会的方式,从而使其成为美国经济中一个至关重要的组成部分。该项目的一位开发商告诉《泰晤士报》:“人们害怕AI。我也害怕AI,但你猜怎么着?它就要来了。”

Original English

Tracy Mumford: This month, Maine could become the first state in the country to ban new data centers. The centers have been popping up in fields, farmland, and forests across the US as tech companies rush to get the computing power they need for artificial intelligence. The construction boom has raised concerns, though, about how much water and electricity they use and the potential for that to drive up utility costs for people who live nearby. Now, lawmakers in Maine have approved an 18-month moratorium on any construction of big new computing facilities, and the bill is in the governor's hands. The effort to push back on data centers, though, in Maine and in other states, which are actively considering similar restrictions, could set up a clash with the Trump administration. The president has threatened to sue states and withhold federal funding if they restrict the AI industry's growth. Plus, efforts to block new construction can also be controversial on the local level. In Maine, for instance, one data center project was pitched as a way to revitalize an old abandoned mill and create new jobs in an industry that's become a critical piece of the US economy. One of the developers of the project told the Times, quote, "People are afraid of AI. I'm afraid of AI, but guess what? It's coming."

Heelies 发明者逝世

Tracy Mumford: 最后,

Original English

Tracy Mumford: And finally,

Heelys 发明者 (引述): “自由是你灵魂中的一个轮子。这是 Healy's,一切都关乎乐趣。”

Original English

Heelys Inventor (quoted): "freedom is a wheel in your soul. It's Healy's and it's all about fun."

Tracy Mumford: 将轮子装进鞋子,创造了2000年代初期的热门潮流 Healy's 的发明家,已于71岁高龄去世。它始终关乎好心情,随时随地自由滚动。

Original English

Tracy Mumford: The inventor who put wheels inside of shoes, creating Healy's, the got to have it trend of the early 2000s, has died at age 71. It's always been about good vibes, being free to roll whenever, wherever.

Roger Adams (引述): Roger Adams 从小就接触滑板。他的父母在华盛顿州塔科马经营一家轮滑场,他9个月大时就已经穿上了轮子。然而,直到40多岁,当他发现自己走到了某种绝境时,才真正发挥了这一专业知识。他正经历离婚,并憎恨自己作为一名心理学家的工作。那时,他构想出了可以按需滚动的鞋子,并在一个朋友的车库里制造了一个原型。他从一双运动鞋的鞋跟处切掉一块,装上一个轮子。Heelies 就这样诞生了。到2008年,公司每年销量超过700万双。你去商场,会听到到处都是轮子滚动的声音。你会看到一个孩子,就像在正常行走一样,然后他们会突然像变形金刚一样,脚下长出一对轮子,然后启动并开始滑行,这种情况屡屡发生。Ash Woo 是《泰晤士报》的讣告编辑。

Original English

Roger Adams (quoted): Roger Adams basically grew up on skates. His parents owned a roller rink in Tacoma, Washington, and they had him up on wheels at 9 months old. He didn't really tap into that expertise, though, until much later in his 40s when he found himself at something of a dead end. He was going through a divorce and hating his job as a psychologist. At that point, he had a vision for shoes that could roll on demand, and he built a prototype in a friend's garage. He cut the heel out of a sneaker and popped in a wheel. Heelies were born. By 2008, the company was selling over 7 million pairs a year. You would go to the mall, you would just hear the sounds of wheels just like going everywhere. You would see a kid just kind of like walking along normally and then they would suddenly kind of Transformer style like grow a pair of wheels beneath their feet and just kick off and start gliding and it this would happen all the time. Ash Woo works on the obituary desk at the times.

Ash Woo (引述): 我和我的编辑谈话,在很久没穿之后,我主动提出要再次尝试穿一下。我probably 10岁时就没穿过了。所以,我紧紧抓住每一个能找到的栏杆,以免滑倒。

Original English

Ash Woo (quoted): I was talking with my editor and I volunteered to try a pair on again after a very long hiatus. I haven't worn them since I was probably 10 years old. So I was grabbing onto every available railing that I could find. so that I wouldn't slip and fall.

Ash Woo (引述): Ash 说:“作为一名成年人试穿 Healy's 的一个重要体会是,谨慎至关重要。”

Original English

Ash Woo (quoted): Ash said, "One big takeaway from trying on Healy's as an adult, caution is key."

Tracy Mumford: 尽管这家公司取得了巨大的成功,为 Adams 赚取了数百万美元,但它的鞋子并没有受到急诊室医生的青睐。一度,它们甚至登上了“最糟糕玩具”榜单的榜首,因为它们可能带来的头部和脊柱****伤害风险,当你突然——你知道——把鞋子变成溜冰鞋时。在热潮出现几年后,Adams 离开了 Heel's 公司,并且几乎从公众视野中消失了,尽管他继续为其他可穿戴滚轮设备申请了专利。

Original English

Tracy Mumford: Though the company was a runaway success, earning Adams millions, its shoes were not a hit with ER doctors. At one point, they even landed at the top of a list of worst toys because of the risk of head and spinal injuries that can come with suddenly, you know, turning your shoes into roller skates. A few years into the craze, Adams left the Heel's company and pretty much stayed out of the public eye, though he did continue to file patents for other wearable roller devices.

新闻测验

Tracy Mumford: 这些就是头条新闻。如果你想玩星期五新闻测验,请留下来。就在广告之后。本节目由 Will Jarvis、Margaret Kadifa、Yan Stewart 和我,Tracy Mumford 制作。原创主题曲由 Dan Powell 创作。特别感谢 Isabella Anderson、Lissa Anderson、Sam Dolnick、Miles McKinley 和 Zoe Murphy。

Original English

Tracy Mumford: Those are the headlines. If you'd like to play the Friday News quiz, stick around. It is just after these credits. This show is made by Will Jarvis, Margaret Kadifa, Yan Stewart, and me, Tracy Mumford. Original theme by Dan Powell. Special thanks to Isabella Anderson, Lissa Anderson, Sam Dolnick, Miles McKinley, and Zoe Murphy.

Tracy Mumford: 现在,是时候进行测验了。每周,我们都会就《泰晤士报》报道过的新闻向你提几个问题。你能全部答对吗?

Original English

Tracy Mumford: Now, time for the quiz. Every week, we ask you a few questions about stories the Times has been covering. Can you get them all?

Tracy Mumford: 首先,如果你已经处理完了那些申报,那很好。但如果还没有,你可能想暂停一下,现在仔细听。

Original English

Tracy Mumford: First up, if you've already gotten to those filings, well, great. But if not, you may want to take a pause and listen up right now.

Tracy Mumford: 星期三是报税日。如果你觉得这是新闻,我很抱歉第一个告诉你。总之,为了纪念报税日,我们有一个关于审计的问题。根据《泰晤士报》对IRS数据的分析,在过去十年里,被美国国税局审计个人所得税退税单的几率已大幅下降。这实际上是自20世纪50年代以来最低的。你的问题是,多少比例的个人所得税退税单会被审计

Original English

Tracy Mumford: Wednesday was tax day. Now, if that sounds like news to you, I'm very sorry to be the one telling you that. Anyway, in honor of tax day, we have a question about audits. The chance of being audited by the Internal Revenue Service has dropped sharply over the last decade. It actually seems to be as low as it has ever been since at least the 1950s, according to a Times analysis of IRS data. Your question, what percent of personal income tax returns are audited?

Tracy Mumford: 答案是,0.36%。从这个衡量标准来看,统计学上来说,你正确猜中连续八次抛硬币正反面的几率要比被审计的几率大。不过,如果你是高收入者,被审计的几率确实会增加。收入超过1000万美元的最高收入家庭,被审计的比率接近11%。

Original English

Tracy Mumford: The answer, 0.36%. By that measure, statistically, you'd have a better chance of correctly guessing a coin toss eight times in a row. Your chance of being audited does go up, though, if you're a higher earner. The wealthiest households, those bringing in 10 million plus, have been audited at rates closer to 11%.

Tracy Mumford: 下一个。一项标志性的美国****基础设施正在迎来100岁生日。它出现在无数明信片上。它仍然激励着无数次的公路旅行。这里我们给你一个歌曲提示。它是什么?

Original English

Tracy Mumford: Next one. An iconic piece of American infrastructure is turning 100red years old. It has been on a million postcards. It still inspires many, many road trips. We will give you a hint here in song. What is it?

歌曲片段: “想到开阔的公路,就走高速公路。那才是最好的。”

Original English

Song Snippet: "think the wide open road, take the highway. That's the best."

Tracy Mumford: 答案是。“在66号公路上尽情嗨起来。”

Original English

Tracy Mumford: The answer. "Get your kicks on Route 66."

Tracy Mumford: 66号公路。在其鼎盛时期,这条传奇的公路从伊利诺伊州一直延伸到加利福尼亚州,长达2400多英里。它实际上不再是官方的美国高速公路。它被州际公路系统淘汰了,但它仍然以其沙漠风光、路边汽车旅馆和俗气的旅游景点捕捉着美国人的想象力,比如我最喜欢的,世界上最大的摇椅。

Original English

Tracy Mumford: Route 66. In its heyday, the legendary roadway stretched for more than 2400 miles from Illinois to California. It is actually no longer an official US highway. It got left in the dust by the interstate system, but it still captures the American imagination with all of its desert vistas, roadside motel, and kitschy tourist traps, like my personal favorite, the world's second largest rocking chair.

Tracy Mumford: 最后一个问题。近年来,许多大型食品****趋势已经病毒式传播,部分原因是它们非常引人注目。想想近乎荧光绿的抹茶,或者迪拜巧克力那种看起来黏糊糊的开心果馅。我喜欢这种紫色,闻起来也很香。这是最近的一种超鲜艳紫色食材,它一直是菲律宾传统食材数个世纪,但最近在美国真正火了起来。你们很多人告诉我应该试试这个,我很高兴我试了。最后,

Original English

Tracy Mumford: And last question. In recent years, a number of big food trends have gone really viral in part because they're just super eye-catching. Think of the borderline neon green of matcha or the ooey gooey looking pistachio centers of Dubai chocolate. And I love the purple color and it smells so good. Like it's

Tracy Mumford: 你们的问题是,那种如此紫色食材叫什么名字?答案是,ube,这是一种山药。如果你知道它,可能是因为你被Trader Joe'sube冰淇淋Starbucksube拿铁轰炸过。列表还在继续。这一切都是食品公司之间一场军备竞赛的一部分,这场竞赛似乎在外观口味上一样重要。一位风味专家告诉《泰晤士报》,他公司的下一个大赌注是深甜樱桃。谈到这种水果,他说它们味道极佳。而且,这是重要的部分,它们非常适合Instagram

Original English

Tracy Mumford: one of the latest is an ultra vivid purple ingredient that's been a Filipino staple for centuries, but has really taken off in the US recently. So many of you told me I should try this one, and I'm so happy I did. Finally, your question, what is the name of that oh so purple ingredient? The answer, ube, which is a type of yam. If you knew it, it might be because you've been bombarded by ube ice cream at Trader Joe's, ube macchiato at Starbucks. The list goes on. It's all part of an arms race among food companies that seems to have become as much about looks as about taste. One flavor expert told the Times his company's next big bet is on dark sweet cherry. Talking about the fruit, he said they taste terrific. And this is the important part, they're Instagram friendly.

Tracy Mumford: 这就是本周新闻测验的全部内容。我是 Tracy Mumford。下周一将回来播报头条新闻。

Original English

Tracy Mumford: That's it for this week's news quiz. I'm Tracy Mumford. The headlines will be back on Monday.

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