微软AI假新闻引发市场震荡
大家好,欢迎回到我们的频道。我们又回到了每日回顾节目。今天有很多事情要谈。首先,今天早上,如果你和我一起关注了开盘市场,就会看到一个相当疯狂的头条新闻。
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Hey everybody, welcome back to the channel. We are back on another episode of the daily recap. We've got a lot to talk about today. Uh first of all, this morning we had, if you were with me on the market open, a pretty wild headline that came out.
一切都绿了,盘前交易(pre-markets: 指股票市场正式开盘前的交易时段)上涨。我们正在浏览新闻,然后突然,比特币下跌了2000美元,英伟达下跌了2%,标普指数下跌,微软下跌了3%。我们将讨论为什么会发生这种情况,以及今天早上事件的后续影响。
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Everything was green. Pre-markets were up. We were going through the news and then boom, Bitcoin falls by 2,000 bucks. Nvidia's down 2%. S&P is down. Microsoft's down 3%. We're going to talk about why that happened. The fallout from what happened this morning.
这与一个AI头条新闻有关。再一次,这个AI叙事(AI narrative: 指围绕人工智能发展及其影响的市场情绪和投资故事)的脆弱性每天都在变得越来越明显,即使这些头条新闻背后没有真相,但市场仍然对此做出了反应。
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It had to do with an AI headline. Once again, the fragility of this AI narrative is becoming more and more fragile every day when these headlines try to take down the narrative. Uh even if there's no truth behind the headline, but nonetheless, the market did react to it. So, we'll talk about that today.
今天我们将讨论这个问题。黄仁勋(Jensen Huang)正式做客了乔·罗根(Joe Rogan)的节目。我没想到今天会看到这个,但他确实去了。黄仁勋在乔·罗根的节目中待了两个半小时。我有一些我认为对大家很重要的片段。所以,我们将讨论这个。然后是一些宏观经济更新。我们有一些Robinhood新闻,一些特斯拉新闻,以及一些可能对特斯拉非常有利的政治方面的事情。有很多要谈的。让我们开始吧。
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Uh Jensen Hang officially did Joe Rogan. Did not expect to see that today, but he did it. Jensen Wong did two and a half hours of Joe Rogan. Got a couple clips that I think are important for people to see. So, we'll talk about that. And then some macro updates. We got some Robin news, some Tesla news, some political stuff that's potentially going to be very beneficial to Tesla. lot to talk about. Let's get into it.
所以,让我们从早上发生的事情开始,因为微软的那个头条新闻让早上变得相当疯狂。我认为讨论它很重要,因为AI故事的脆弱性持续存在,仅仅是因为越来越多的人担心我们正处于某种AI泡沫(AI bubble: 指人工智能相关股票或资产价格被过度炒作,远超其内在价值的现象)中。
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So, let's get started with what happened in the morning because it was a pretty wild morning on that Microsoft headline. And I do think it's important to talk about because the fragility of the AI story continues to be aggressive uh simply because there are more and more people that are scared that we are in some type of an AI bubble.
对抗这种担忧的唯一方法是公司在财报中拿出能反驳这种“泡沫”说法的业绩。然而,市场在试图理解AI是否真实方面仍有些动摇。
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And the only way to combat that is for companies to put up results in earnings that disprove that narrative that this is a bubble. Nonetheless, the market is kind of on tilt in terms of trying to understand if it's real or not.
尽管每天都有证据表明AI是真实的,但可能出现的头条新闻会严重扰乱市场的思考方式。今天我们看到了一个关于微软的头条新闻,而英伟达也有很多头条。
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And although there's evidence every single day that it's real, the headlines that can come out can deeply disturb how the market is thinking about it. And today we a headline for Nvidia or for Microsoft had plenty of headlines for Nvidia.
这个头条新闻是什么?嗯,这份信息,现在应该被称为“错误信息”,我不知道这个出版物对市场有如此大的影响力,但它确实有。
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Uh what was the headline? Well, the information which at this point should be uh referred to as the misinformation. I do not know how this publication has this much influence on the markets, but they do.
这是你屏幕左侧看到的原始引用:“微软降低AI软件销售配额,因客户抵制新产品。”这篇文章的摘要,字面意义上的一句话摘要是,客户正在抵制订阅Copilot(Copilot: 微软推出的一款AI助手,用于提高生产力)。
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Um this was the original quote you're seeing on the lefth hand side of screen. Microsoft lowers AI software sales quotas as customers resist newer products. And the summary of the article, like literally the one sentence summary, is that customers are resisting signing up for co-pilot subscriptions.
请在评论中告诉我你是否使用过Copilot。我从未在有Copilot订阅的公司工作过,但我每天都从聊天中的许多人那里听说Copilot很糟糕。所以,我认为这是一种众所周知的情况。
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Let me know in the comments if you've ever used Copilot before. Uh I've never worked at a corporation that has C-pilot subscriptions, but I have heard from many of you guys in the chat every day that C-Pilot sucks. So I think it's kind of, you know, something that's pretty wellnown.
然后微软出来明确表示,他们没有降低AI软件的销售配额或销售人员的目标,这正是文章指责他们的。这是确切的引用:“公司没有降低其销售人员的销售配额或目标。”
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Uh and then after Microsoft came out and explicitly said that we are not lowering our AI software uh or quote targets for salespeople, which was what the article was accusing them of. This is the exact quote. The company's not lowered its sales quotas or targets for its salespeople.
然后《The Information》杂志出来,他们改变了标题,说“微软降低AI软件增长目标,因客户抵制新产品”。所以,我认为从这件事中真正应该吸取教训的是,如果更广泛的AI叙事中出现任何挫折或小问题,市场会多么恐慌。
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Then the information came out and they changed the headline by saying Microsoft lowers AI software growth targets as customers resist newer products. So I think the real thing to take away from this is how scared the market is if there is a upset or a hiccup inside of the broader AI narrative.
这篇导致早上数千亿美元市值轮动的文章,其消息来源只有两个:你可以看到这里,Azure(Azure: 微软的云计算服务平台)云部门的两名销售人员。
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This source that they used to create this article which caused literally hundreds of billions of dollars of uh market cap rotation during the morning had two sources. You can see right here two salespeople in the Azure cloud unit.
报道称,援引Azure云部门的两名销售人员的话说,微软很少会降低特定产品的配额。
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It is rare for Microsoft to lower quotas for specific products. The report said citing two salespeople in the Azure cloud unit.
首先,如果现在有人购买微软股票,他们不是为了Copilot而买。他们是为了云服务而买。Azure的增长率为40%。微软的AI工作负载非常火爆。
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First of all, if anyone's buying Microsoft right now, you're not buying it for co-pilot. Like you're buying it for cloud. Azure is growing at 40%. Microsoft AI workloads are off the hook.
原因是AI非常真实,而且他们从想要使用AI企业工作流采用的公司那里获得了大量需求。显然,这需要大量的云计算和基础设施才能实现。这就是他们大量投资数据中心的原因。
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The reason is because AI is very real and they're getting a lot of demand for companies that want to use AI enterprise workflows adoptions. Obviously, that needs a lot of cloud computing and infrastructure to make that possible.
这就是萨蒂亚(Satya Nadella)投入千亿美元资本支出(capex: Capital Expenditure,指企业用于购买、改进或维护长期资产的资金)的原因。所以,你可以对模型公司、世界上的大型语言模型(LMS: Large Language Models,指参数量巨大、能够理解和生成人类语言的人工智能模型),比如Anthropic、OpenAI等,以及微软持有OpenAI 33%的股份有自己的疑虑,但你不能说云服务不真实,不能说微软从云服务中获得的需求不真实。
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That's why they're investing so much in data centers. That's why Satia is putting a hundred billion dollars in capex. So you can have your qualms about the model companies, the LMS of the world, you know, anthropic, opening eye, etc., Microsoft having that 33% stake in opening eye, but you cannot say that the cloud isn't real, that the demand that Microsoft's getting from cloud is not real.
现在,微软可能在其他AI变现方式上存在担忧,但云服务是一项非常好的业务,而且Azure的同比增长率达到了40%。
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Now, there may be concerns about other ways for Microsoft to monetize AI, but cloud's a hell of a good business, and that's growing at 40% in terms of Azure specifically year-over-year.
我不知道有谁在购买微软股票(我正在努力更多地了解它,我从未真正购买过微软的股票),如果你认为我错了,请纠正我。但是,鉴于最近的抛售,我正在尝试更深入地理解它。
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I don't know anyone, and correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't know anyone who's buying Microsoft stock, which I am starting to try to understand a lot more. I've never really purchased shares of Microsoft. Um, but you know, given this recent sell-off, I'm trying to understand it a lot deeper.
我从对公司进行初步尽职调查的分析中并未得出“嘿,Copilot是人们应该感到兴奋的东西”的结论。据我了解,Copilot是一种每月30美元的附加订阅服务,是的,并非所有企业都会需要,因为他们可能不需要它。
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My analysis from the elementary level of due diligence I've done on the company has not come down to, hey, Co-Pilot is something people should be excited about. And to my understanding, co-pilot's this like add-on subscription of 30 bucks a month that, yeah, not every enterprise is going to want because maybe they don't need it.
事实上,他们可能正在构建自己的内部AI工具。他们可能直接与ChatGPT或Anthropic合作。所以,认为AI叙事已经消失,或者它是一个泡沫,或者它都是假的,仅仅因为Copilot(微软企业销售中的一项订阅服务)没有像人们预期的那样获得那么多增长,这就像是,“好吧,下一个话题。”
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In fact, they might be building their own in-house AI tools. They might be working with CHATBT directly or Anthropic. So, the idea that the AI narrative is gone or it's a bubble or it's all fake because co-pilot, which is a subscription offering inside of Microsoft's enterprise sales, isn't getting as much growth as people thought it would get. It's like, okay, cool. Next.
因为我们知道企业正在使用AI。我们知道他们正在使用云服务。对于云服务,他们正在使用GCP(GCP: Google Cloud Platform,谷歌云平台)、亚马逊或微软。所以,这是一个赢家。我们知道这将继续是一个赢家类别。
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Because we know that enterprises are using AI. We know that they're using cloud. For cloud, they're using GCP, Amazon, or Microsoft. So, that's a winner. And we know that that's going to be continue to be a winning category.
也许微软在Copilot上没有获胜。但这并不意味着AI已死。这意味着也许其他公司正在实施这些AI工作流,以获得比微软Copilot提供的更好的用例。
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Maybe Microsoft doesn't win in copilot. That does not mean AI is dead. That means maybe other companies are implementing these AI workflows to allow them to get better use cases versus what Microsoft copilot is offering.
所以,我认为今天整个故事,如果有什么的话,它应该是一个理由,让我们觉得“好吧,微软今天下跌2-3%也许是应该的”,截至录制时,微软下跌1.4%。它曾下跌3%,所以有所回升,但这并不意味着整个市场都应该受到打击。
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So I think the entire story today if anything it should be a reason to be like all right Microsoft maybe should deserves to be down 2 3% on the day which Microsoft as of recording this is down 1.4%. It was down 3% so a little bit of recovery but that does not mean the entire market deserves to get hit.
你看到市场正在这里回升。标普指数是绿色的,英伟达是绿色的,等等。我的意思是,这是另一个论证人们为什么感到恐惧的理由,一旦这个头条新闻出来,我的意思是,我们谈论的是一切都开始下跌。比特币是第一个下跌的。
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And you got the market kind of recovering right here. S&P is green, Nvidia is green, etc. I mean it is another argument for why people are scared and as soon as the headline came out I mean we're talking about everything started going down. Bitcoin was the first one to fall off.
所以,看起来纳斯达克(本质上是科技股)和AI与加密货币是相关的,它们相互影响。但是,如果真的要有一个头条新闻来打压市场,那今天这个不是。
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So it seems like the NASDAQ is which is tech essentially and AI is correlated with crypto and they're going back and forth. But if if there's going to be a headline to take this down, this was not the headline.
如果将来还会有另一个头条新闻(我相信会的),那么当这种情况发生时,不要恐慌是非常重要的,直到你真正掌握了一些确凿的数据,这些数据显示公司没有购买GPU,公司正在收回他们的盈利预测,公司不知道如何将AI变现。
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And if there is going to be another headline, which I'm sure there will be in the future, it's very important to not panic when this stuff happens until you actually have some hard set of data that shows like actual earnings data that shows that companies are not buying GPUs, companies are taking back their forecast for earnings, companies are not knowing how to monetize AI.
我们需要真正的确凿证据,而不是试图通过发布文章来操纵市场的记者。所以总的来说,这个故事没什么大不了的,但理解AI叙事是多么脆弱,以及你需要更多的盈利增长来继续向人们证明AI非常真实,这一点非常重要。
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Like we need real hard proof, not journalists that are trying to move the market by putting out an article. So overall, story was a nothing burger, but it is very important to understand how fragile the AI narrative is and how you're going to need a lot more earnings growth to continue proving to people that AI is very real.
黄仁勋做客乔·罗根:能源、AI与制造业
好的,接下来是英伟达。黄仁勋做到了。黄仁勋做客了乔·罗根的节目。看到这个真是太令人兴奋了。
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All right, next up, Nvidia. Jensen did it. Jensen did it. He did Joe Rogan. This was super exciting to see. Uh, there you go.
黄仁勋和乔·罗根。有很多可以深入探讨的。这个播客中说了很多东西。我认为没有什么特别疯狂的言论。我仍在整理我收到的所有不同摘要,但我的意思是,从本质上讲,黄仁勋所说的一切,以及他在过去几年中接受的许多采访中关于加速计算(accelerated computing: 指利用专用硬件(如GPU)加速计算任务,而非传统CPU)的现状,他都提到了。
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Jensen and Joe Rogan. There's a lot to dive into. A lot of stuff was said in this podcast. Nothing super crazy, I think, was said. I'm still going through all the different summaries of what I'm getting, but I mean, at its core, everything that Jensen has said, Jensen has done a lot of interviews over the past couple years. uh the state of accelerated computing.
他确实非常赞赏特朗普(Donald Trump)支持能源、支持再工业化的立场。他说能源是AI的瓶颈。他还谈到了CUDA(CUDA: 英伟达开发的并行计算平台和编程模型)、需求、深度学习等所有这些东西。
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Uh he he definitely gave Trump a lot of credit for being pro- energy, pro re-industrialization. Said that energy was the bottleneck for AI. Talked about CUDA, demand, deep learning, all that stuff.
所以到目前为止,我还没有看到任何对于英伟达股东来说真正必要或不同的重要启示,如果你之前没有听过黄仁勋说这些的话。但我认为有两个片段。一个是关于黄仁勋第一次向埃隆(Elon Musk)出售第一台超级计算机的故事,另一个是关于能源和电网的。
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So I so far have not seen a major takeaway that's really really like necessary or different to understand as an Nvidia shareholder if you, you know, haven't already heard Jensen say it. But I think there were two clips. One is about the story where Jensen first sold the first supercomputer to Elon and then the other is about energy and the power grid. So I'm going to play both of those clips right now.
大多数人,作为一个国家,作为一个巨大的社区,我们确实是,我们有理由认为在美国进行制造业是合理的,特别是你所说的关键技术。
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>> Most people generally as a country, you know, as a a giant community, which we are, it just only makes sense that we have manufacturing in America that especially critical technology like you're talking about.
就像我们从其他国家购买如此多的技术,这有点疯狂。如果美国不发展,我们就不会有繁荣。我们无法在国内或其他地方投资任何东西。我们无法解决任何问题。
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>> Like it's kind of insane that we buy so much technology from other countries. If United States doesn't grow, we will have no prosperity. We can't invest in anything domestically or otherwise. We can't fix any of our problems.
如果我们没有能源增长,我们就不会有工业增长。如果我们没有工业增长,我们就不会有就业增长。这些就是这么简单,对吧?
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>> If we don't have energy growth, we can't have industrial growth. If we don't have industrial growth, we can't have job growth. These it's as simple as that,
对。
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>> right?
事实上,他上任后说的第一件事就是“钻吧,宝贝,钻吧”。他的观点是我们需要能源增长。没有能源增长,我们就不会有工业增长。这拯救了AI产业。
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>> And the fact that the fact that he came into office and the first thing that he said was drill baby drill. His point is we need energy growth. Without energy growth, we can have no industrial growth. And that was it saved it saved the AI industry.
我必须坦率地告诉你,如果不是他的亲增长能源政策。
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>> Got I got to tell you flat out if not for his progrowth energy policy.
我们将无法建造AI工厂。我们将无法建造芯片工厂。我们肯定无法建造超级计算机工厂。所有这些都不可能实现。没有所有这些,建筑工作将面临挑战,对吧?电工工作,所有这些现在蓬勃发展的工作都将面临挑战。所以,我认为他是对的。我们需要能源增长。我们希望美国再工业化。我们需要重新回到制造业。
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>> We would not be able to build factories for AI. We would not be able to build chip factories. We won't sure surely won't be able to build supercomputer factories. None of that stuff would be possible. Without all of that, construction jobs would be challenged, right? Electrical, you know, electrician jobs, all of these jobs that are now flourishing would be challenged. And so, I think he's got it right. We need energy growth. We want to re-industrialize the United States. We need to be back in manufacturing.
每个成功的人都不需要有博士学位。每个成功的人都不需要上过斯坦福或麻省理工学院。我认为这种观念是正确的。
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>> Every successful person doesn't need to have a PhD. Every successful person doesn't have to have gone to Stanford or MIT. And I think I think that that that, you know, that sensibility is is um spot on. is my point.
所以目前这是一个很大的瓶颈,对吧?是能源。
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>> So currently that that is a big bottleneck, right? Is energy.
是的,它就是瓶颈。
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>> Yeah, it is the bottleneck.
瓶颈就是这个。那么是谷歌正在建造核电站来运行其AI工厂吗?
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>> The bottleneck is this. So was it Google that is making nuclear power plants to operate one of its AI factors?
哦,我没听说过。但我认为在未来六七年内,你将看到一大批小型模块化反应堆(SMR: Small Modular Reactors,指功率较小、可模块化设计和建造的核反应堆)。
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>> Oh, I haven't heard that. But I think in the next six, seven years, I think you're going to see a whole bunch of small nuclear reactors.
那么,所谓“小型”是指多大呢?
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>> And by small, like how big you talking about?
数百兆瓦。是的。
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>> Hundreds of megawws. Yeah.
好的。这些将是特定公司本地化的吗?
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>> Okay. And that these will be local to whatever specific company they have.
对。我们都将成为发电机。
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>> That's right. We'll all be power generators.
哇。
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>> Whoa.
就像,就像你的农场一样。
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>> You know, just like just like your you know, somebody's farm.
这可能是最明智的做法,对吧?
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>> It probably is the smartest way to do it, right?
它减轻了电网的负担。是的。它减轻了电网的负担。你可以根据需要建造任意多的。
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>> And it takes the burden off Yeah. takes the burden off the grid. It takes and you could build as much as you need
而且你可以回馈电网。当我宣布这个东西的时候,世界上没有人想要它。我没有收到任何采购订单。一个都没有。没有人想买它。没有人想参与其中,除了埃隆。
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>> and you can contribute back to the grid. When I announced this thing, nobody in the world wanted it. I had no purchase orders. Not not one. Nobody wanted to buy it. Nobody wanted to be part of it except for Elon.
他当时在活动现场,我们正在进行一场关于自动驾驶汽车未来的炉边谈话,他说:“你知道吗?我有一家公司真的可以用到这个。”
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>> He goes, he was at the event and we were doing a fireside chat about the future of self-driving cars and he goes, "You know what? I have a company that could really use this."
我说:“哇,我的第一个客户。”所以,我当时非常兴奋。他说:“呃,是的。我们有这家公司。它是一家非营利公司。”我的脸色瞬间苍白。我刚刚花了数十亿美元建造这个东西。它花费了30万美元,你知道一家非营利公司能够支付这个东西的几率大约为零。
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>> I said, "Wow, my first customer." And so, so I was pretty excited about it. And he goes, "Uh, yeah. Uh, we have this company. It's a nonprofit company and all the blood drained out of my face. I just spent a few billion dollars building this thing. It cost $300,000 and you know the chances of a nonprofit being able to pay for this thing is approximately zero.
他说,你知道,这是一家AI公司,呃,它是一家非营利组织,呃,我们真的可以用到一台这样的超级计算机。所以我就拿起来了。我为我们自己建造了第一台。我们公司内部正在使用它。我把它装箱。我开车把它运到旧金山,我在2016年把它交给了埃隆。
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>> And he goes, you know, this is a it's an AI company and uh it's a nonprofit and and uh we could really use one of these supercomputers. And so I I picked it up. I built the first one for ourselves. We're using it inside the company. I boxed one up. I drove it up to San Francisco and I delivered at Elon in 2016.
呃,我走到二楼,他们都在一个房间里。这个地方比你这里小。呃,呃,那个地方后来变成了OpenAI。
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>> And uh I walk up to the second floor where they were all kind of in a room. This smaller than your place here and and uh uh that place turned out to have been open AI.
不过,它现在不再是非营利组织了,是吗?
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>> It's not really uh nonprofit anymore though, is it?
他们现在不再是非营利组织了。是的。
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>> They're not they're not nonprofit anymore. Yeah.
这种运作方式真奇怪。所以,我认为这两个片段的启示是,黄仁勋显然在持续论证能源和能源基础设施作为AI发展生态系统的重要性。
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>> Weird how that works. So I think the takeaway from those two clips is that obviously Jensen is making the continued argument about how important energy in energy infrastructure is as an ecosystem to be able to develop AI and the other really important thing about this is that you know the Elon story I thought was fascinating because now people can't wait to get their hands on chips.
另一个真正重要的事情是,埃隆的故事我认为很吸引人,因为现在人们迫不及待地想要获得芯片。事实上,我们昨天讨论的摩根士丹利报告(Morgan Stanley Report)说,英伟达客户最大的担忧不是AI是一个泡沫,而是他们无法足够快地获得芯片,特别是明年将推出的Vera Rubin(Vera Rubin: 英伟达下一代GPU架构的代号)。
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In fact, the Morgan Sailing report we talked about yesterday um that said the biggest concern customers have of Nvidia is not that AI is a bubble, but that they can't get their hands on chips fast enough, especially Vera Rubin that will be launching next year.
市场担心泡沫。英伟达的客户担心获得芯片,而黄仁勋讲述了一个故事,关于十年前没有人想买芯片。埃隆当时说:“嘿,也许我们可以和OpenAI一起使用这个。”
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The market's worried about a bubble. Customers of Nvidia are worried about getting chips and Jensen selling a story about how 10 years ago no one wanted to buy a chip. Elon, you know, said, "Hey, maybe we can use this with Open AI at the time."
所以,看到事情的发展轨迹变化如此之大,真是令人难以置信。英伟达今天基本持平。有很多其他股票在波动。我今天确实又买了一些英伟达股票。
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So, it's quite incredible to see the trajectory of how things have changed. Uh Nvidia basically flat on the day. You got a lot of other stocks that are moving. I did buy more Nvidia today.
我仍然相信市场现在正在低估英伟达,相比其他股票和其他估值,仅仅是因为他们的恐惧。我真的认为英伟达现在被低估的首要原因是市场害怕他们错过了故事中的某些东西,因为如果不是这样,我的意思是,客观上英伟达现在应该接近200美元,至少200美元,如果不是210-215美元的话,那根本不是一个狂热的倍数。
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I continue to believe that the market is discounting Nvidia right now compared to other stocks and other valuations simply because of their fear. Like I really think the number one reason Nvidia is discounted right now is because the market is afraid that they're missing something to the story because if not I mean objectively Nvidia should be closer to 200 right now at least 200 if not 210 215 and and that would not be a euphoric multiple at all.
达到300美元或类似水平,但像200美元,或者之前盈利前的197美元,这并不疯狂。它现在是180美元。所以,为什么会发生这种情况?我认为是因为市场只是害怕这可能是一个泡沫。
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Get to 300 or like but like 200 197 where it was before earnings is not crazy. It's at 180. So like why is that happening? I think it's because the market's just scared that it might be a bubble. I really think that.
我真的这么认为,这很讽刺,因为CoreWeave是绿色的,Amkor(博通和英伟达的供应商)也是绿色的,但实际上增长速度比所有这些公司都快,而且讽刺的是,即使它是一家硬件公司,利润率也更好,但它却不是绿色的。
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Which is ironic because they're you know Nebius is green and Cororeweave is green and Amcor which is a supplier for Broadcom and Nvidia that's green but the company that's actually growing faster than all those other companies with ironically better margins even though it's a hardware company is not green.
所以,我认为从这个角度来看,英伟达仍然值得买入。它是我的宏观七大买入股(Mac 7 buys: 指在宏观经济背景下,被认为具有长期投资价值的七支股票)之一,包括Meta和亚马逊,进入2026年。
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So I think from that perspective Nvidia continues to be a buy. It's one of my Mac 7 buys including met and Amazon going into 2026.
黄仁勋做客乔·罗根的节目可能会介绍英伟达的概念,坦率地说,很多人甚至不知道英伟达是我们拥有AI的原因,就像我妹妹前几天和我聊天时,她完全不知道GPU是我们能够使用ChatGPT的原因。
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And Jensen Joe Rogan probably introduces the concept of Nvidia which you know quite frankly a lot of people don't even know that Nvidia is the reason we have AI like my sister the other day had no idea when I was talking to her that GPUs are the reason why she gets to use chat and so hopefully this does get a lot more distribution for him as a brand and more people understand why AI is possible it's because all right.
所以,希望这能为他作为一个品牌带来更多的传播,让更多人理解AI之所以可能的原因。
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And so hopefully this does get a lot more distribution for him as a brand and more people understand why AI is possible it's because all right.
宏观经济更新:美联储、就业与消费者
我们要谈的最后一件事是今天我们看到的一些不同的宏观头条新闻。首先,我想谈谈这个。我觉得这很有趣。我们谈到了凯文·哈塞特(Kevin Hassett)可能成为新的美联储主席(Fed chair: 美国联邦储备系统理事会主席)。
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Last thing we're going to get into is some of the different macro headlines that we had throughout the entire today. Uh, first off, I wanted to talk about this. I thought this was pretty interesting. So, we've talked about Kevin Hasset potentially becoming the new Fed chair.
特朗普昨天暗示凯文·哈塞特可能成为下一任美联储主席。这里有一份我认为很有趣的报告:债券投资者(Bond investors: 购买政府或企业债券以获取利息收入的个人或机构)警告财政部关于哈塞特担任美联储主席的风险。
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Trump kind of teased yesterday that Kevin Hasset could become the next Fed chair. Here's a report that I thought was pretty interesting. Bond investors warned Treasury over Hasset as the Fed chair.
债券投资者已告知美国财政部,他们担心凯文·哈塞特如果被任命为2026年的美联储主席,为了取悦特朗普,他会过于激进地降息。
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Bond investors have told the US Treasury that they are worried that Kevin Hassid, if appointed to the Federal Reserve here in 26, would cut interest rates too aggressively to please Trump.
在11月与主要银行、资产管理公司和财政部借款咨询委员会(Treasury Borrowing Advisory Committee: 负责向美国财政部提供关于政府借款策略和市场状况建议的委员会)的磋商中,几位市场参与者表示,他们更喜欢像里克·里德(Rick Rieder)或美联储理事克里斯托弗·沃勒(Christopher Waller)这样更独立的人士。
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During November consultations with major banks, asset managers, and the Treasury Borrowing Advisory Committee, several market participants said they preferred people that are more independent like Rick Reer or the Fed Governor Christopher Waller.
投资者还对哈塞特领导一个分裂的美联储理事会的能力表示怀疑。其中一些人认为他是特朗普傀儡(Trump stooge: 贬义词,指盲目服从特朗普指令的人),这可能损害美联储的信誉。
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Investors also expressed doubts about Hasset's ability to lead a divided Fed board. Some of them viewed him as a Trump stoogge, risking lasting damage to the Federal Reserve's credibility.
我认为这是一个公平的论点。我不知道这是否足以引起凯文·哈塞特成为下一任美联储主席的更大问题,或者市场会因为他是下一任美联储主席而感到不安。是的。
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I think this is a fair argument. I don't know if it's going to be enough of an argument to cause any broader issues with Kevin Hass becoming the next Fed chair or with, you know, the market being upset that he's the next Fed chair. Yes.
是否会有一些信誉问题和对美联储独立性的担忧?当然。但归根结底,这关乎政治,每个政府都会选择他们希望在某些重要职位上任职的人。
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Will will there be some credibility issues and some like fears about the independence of the Fed? Sure. But at the end of the day, like this is politics and every administration is going to have their own picks of who they want to serve in certain significant positions.
所以,如果特朗普希望降低利率,而凯文·哈塞特肯定会降低利率,也许他不会那么独立,但无论如何,他都会降低利率。市场将不得不问自己一个问题:他们是否那么在意美联储的独立性?他们是否更在意降低利率?
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And so if Trump wants lower rates and Kevin Hassid is definitely going to lower rates, maybe he's not going to be as independent, but nonetheless, he's going to lower rates. And the market's going to have to ask themselves a question. Do they care that much about Fed independence? Do they care more about lowering rates?
此外,可能有一个明确的界限。我的意思是,我们不是在谈论第一天就降低100个基点(basis points: 衡量利率或百分比变化的基本单位,1个基点等于0.01%)。所以,我们谈论的是可以逐步调整的东西,但降低这些利率是不可避免的,无论你选择哪位鸽派(dove: 货币政策中倾向于降低利率以刺激经济增长的立场)人士担任美联储主席,他们可能更独立一些,但结果可能是一样的。
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Also, there's probably a bright line. I mean, if it's we're not talking about 100 basis points on day one. So, we're talking about something that can be scaled, but something that is inevitable to get these rates down and whatever other dove that you pick to be the Fed chair, they might be a little bit more independent, but the outcome might be the same.
顺便说一句,美联储降息概率(Fed rate cut probability: 市场对美联储未来降息可能性的预期)今天上升到89%。我们确实收到了一些其他宏观数据,关于ADP私人非农就业数据(ADP private payrolls: 由ADP公司发布的美国私人部门就业人数月度报告),今天公布为负32,000人。
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The Fed rate cut probability, by the way, went up to 89% today. We did get some other macro data in regards to uh ADP private payrolls, which came in at negative 32,000 today.
好的,这个数据是针对11月份的,预期是增加40,000人。所以再一次,我们还没有JOLTS(JOLTS: Job Openings and Labor Turnover Survey,美国劳工部发布的职位空缺和劳动力流动调查)数据。我们还没有11月份的就业报告。
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Okay, the expectation, this was for November, was supposed to be um plus 40,000. So once again, uh we don't have Jolts yet. We don't have the jobs report for uh November.
我认为我们将在12月中旬联邦公开市场委员会(FOMC: Federal Open Market Committee,美联储的主要货币政策制定机构)会议后收到这份报告。但美联储必须降息。我认为今天的ADP私人非农就业数据几乎证实了我们很可能会降息,因为劳动力市场不能像现在这样持续恶化而不让美联储介入。
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I think we're going to be getting that in the middle of December after the FOMC meeting. But the Fed's got to cut rates. And I think this ADP private payroll number today kind of all but confirmed that it's very likely we're going to be getting these rate cuts because you just cannot have the labor market deteriorating the way it is without uh the Fed stepping in.
昨天美国鹰牌服饰(American Eagle Outfitters)的财报非常好。他们将指引提高了四倍,每股收益(EPS: Earnings Per Share,每股盈利)超预期20%。我仍然很困惑,为什么Abercrombie、Urban Outfitters、American Eagle、Burlington Factory、百思买(Best Buy)所有这些零售商都公布了如此惊人的盈利数据,而我却要相信消费者很疲软。
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Now, American Eagle Outfitters earnings yesterday were really good. They increased guidance by 4x, beat EPS by 20%. I'm still pretty confused how Abberrombi, Urban Outfitters, American Eagle, Burlington Factory, Best Buy, all these retailers are putting up these monster earnings numbers and I'm supposed to believe the consumer is weak.
现在,有很多数据可以解释消费者疲软,但我正在努力在自己脑海中调和:如果消费者疲软,为什么这些公司会取得如此好的业绩?他们为什么要购买85美元的牛仔裤?
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Now, there's tons of data to explain the consumer is weak, but I'm trying to reconcile in my own head, why are these companies putting up really good results if the consumer is weak? Why are they shopping for $85 jeans?
是不是只有中产阶级和富人购买这些牛仔裤,从而补贴了整个经济?也许吧。但很难相信每个零售商都在公布好消息,XRT零售商ETF(XRT retailer ETF: 一种追踪美国零售业股票表现的交易所交易基金)也迎来了近期最好的一个星期。
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Are we just having middle class and rich people shop for these jeans and that's subsidizing the entire economy? Maybe. But it's hard to believe that every single retailer that's coming out, the XRT retailer ETF having its best week in a while.
这似乎巩固了消费者可能不像预期那样疲软的观点。现在,PayPal的首席财务官(CFO: Chief Financial Officer,首席财务官)今天早上确实发表了讲话。PayPal股价今天再次下跌。它下跌了3%。
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Um, kind of solidifying the case that the consumer might not be as weak as expected. Now, PayPal CFO did come out this morning. PayPal stock was down once again on the day. It was down 3%.
今天它继续下跌约2.4%。首席财务官说:“我们继续看到从9月到10月到11月消费者动态的疲软。”这是否意味着PayPal的消费者疲软,而人们正在使用Zelle(Zelle: 美国银行间的一种数字支付网络)和苹果支付(Apple Pay: 苹果公司的移动支付和数字钱包服务)等其他平台,这可能意味着他们在那些平台上并不那么疲软?他们在PayPal上很疲软。
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It continues to be down about 2.4% on the day. And the CFO said, "We are continuing to see weakening consumer dynamics from September to October to November." Is that a PayPal weak consumer where people are using Zel and Apple Pay and other things which might mean they're not as weak on those platforms? They're weak on PayPal.
或者每月使用PayPal的数亿人正在显示出整体疲软的趋势?我认为可能是后者而不是前者。但这有很多细微之处,因为其他公司显示消费者可能没有那么疲软。
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Or are the hundreds of millions of people that use PayPal every month showing an aggregate trend of weakness? I think it's probably the latter versus the former. But there is a lot of nuance to this because then you have other companies showing that the consumer might not be that weak.
所以劳动力数据正在减弱。美联储很可能会降息。消费者疲软。对于消费者疲软的论点存在一个反叙事。
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So labor data is weakening. Fed's likely going to cut. Consumers weak. that there's a counternarrative to this consumer weak argument.
如果美联储降息,而消费者最终没有像预期那样疲软,尽管我们确实知道拖欠率(delinquencies: 指未能按时偿还债务或履行合同义务的情况)正在上升,那么也许这就是你从宏观角度驾驭2026年的方式,即美联储将降息。
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If the Fed cuts and the consumer ends up not being as weak as expected, although we do know delinquencies are rising, then maybe that's how you navigate 2026 from a macro perspective, which is that the Fed is going to cut rates.
这将有助于消费者。这将有助于劳动力市场。劳动力市场可能仍然不是最好的。消费者仍然不是最好的,但这些降息可能会到来。如果消费者表现好于预期,那么明显的上行风险就是通货膨胀,因为如果消费过多,通货膨胀就会上升。
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That's going to help the consumer. That's going to help the labor market. The labor market still probably is not the best. The consumer is still not the best, but those rate cuts might come in. And if the consumer is better than expected, the obvious offside risk to that is inflation because if you have too much consumption, then inflation goes up.
但如果AI能够通货紧缩(deflationary: 指导致物价普遍下降的趋势),这可能是一个非常大的事情,这就是埃隆关于商品和服务将如此丰富,以至于这些东西的成本将大幅下降的整个论点。
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But if AI could be deflationary, which you know that could be a very big thing that happens, this is whole Elon's argument about goods and services are going to be so abundant that the cost of these things are going to come down dramatically.
嗯,这可能在2026年发生。这是对通货膨胀大规模上升的一种对冲。其次,问题是,你想要多一点通货膨胀还是一个糟糕的劳动力市场?我认为我们大多数人会说我们想要多一点通货膨胀。
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Um, and that could take place in 2026. That's a hedge against inflation like being massive. And then second of all, it's like, do you want a little bit more inflation or do you want a horrible labor market? I think most of us would say we want a little bit more inflation.
所以也许宏观经济并没有那么糟糕。它肯定不惊人,但也许没有很多人想象的那么糟糕。你知道,这可能会在2026年底带来更多的动力。
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So maybe the macro is not as horrible. It's definitely not amazing, but maybe it's not as horrible as a lot of people were thinking. And you know that could be leading to a little bit more momentum going into the end of 2026.
特朗普政府聚焦机器人产业
接下来我认为也很有趣的是,特朗普政府现在正在关注机器人。这是《Politico》今天早上的一份报告。拉特尼克(Lutnik)也在CNBC上谈到了这一点,他们正在全力加速机器人产业的发展。
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Next thing right here I thought was really interesting as well is the Trump administration is now looking to robots. This was a report by Politico this morning. Lutnik also talked about this on CNBC that um they are going allin on accelerating the industry's development in terms of robotics.
据三位知情人士透露,一位发言人表示,我们致力于机器人和先进制造业,因为它们对于将关键生产带回美国至关重要。
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According to three people familiar with the matter, a spokesperson said we are committed to robotics and advanced manufacturing because they are bringing or they are central to bringing critical production back to the United States.
关于机器人生态系统真正有趣的部分是,如果你阅读这份报告,听起来他们似乎在说我们需要一个机器人沙皇(robotics zar: 类似于“AI沙皇”,指政府中负责协调和推动机器人产业发展的高级顾问),就像我们有戴维·萨克斯(David Sacks)担任AI沙皇一样,他也是加密货币沙皇。
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The really really interesting part about the robotics ecosystem is essentially if you read the report it sounds like they're saying we need a robotic zar just like we have the aisar with David Saxs and he's also the cryptozar if you have a robotic zar.
特斯拉股价今天因为这个消息上涨了,我认为这可能是一个非常非常重要的关注点,是的,特斯拉上涨了4.46%,今天上涨了4%。
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Tesla stock was I think is up on the news today that there could be a very very heavy focus yeah 446 on Tesla 4% of the day.
政府将非常非常重视机器人产业,因为政府明白这将是增长的关键方式。特斯拉将从中获得很大的动力,因为如果政府准备推动机器人产业的增长,特斯拉将成为赢家。
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There's a very very heavy focus on the industry of robotics because the administration understands that this is going to be a key way to grow Tesla's going to get a lot of momentum from that because if you have the industry or the government ready to propel the growth of robotics, Tesla's going to be a winner.
亚马逊也将是一个大赢家,因为机器人对他们提高运营利润率很重要。所以,我认为很多这些机器人公司,就像AI公司和加密货币公司一样,得到了政府的支持。
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Amazon's going to be a big winner as well because robotics are going to be important to them to increase those operating margins. And so I think a lot of these robotics companies or just like the AI companies and crypto companies got the administration on their side.
机器人是下一个与AI非常紧密结合的层面。因此,像特斯拉和亚马逊这样的公司可能会从政府表示“嘿,我们将大力关注机器人”中真正受益。
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Robotics is that next layer which intersects with AI in a very um intimate way. And as a result, you might have a company like Tesla and Amazon really benefiting from the government saying, "Hey, we're going to focus heavily on robots."
拉里·芬克对加密货币态度的转变
好的,我想分享的最后一件事是拉里·芬克(Larry Fink)在Dealbook会议上的一个片段。在接下来的几天里,随着更多这样的片段发布,以及许多人接受采访,我们将看到更多这样的片段。本特(Bent)、亚历克斯·卡普(Alex Karp)都在那里。
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All right, last thing I wanted to share is a clip from Larry Frink at the Dealbook Conference. We're getting a lot of these clips over the next couple of days as uh a lot more of these clips have come out and a bunch of people getting interviewed. Bent, Alex Karp was there.
我认为这个片段很有趣。拉里·芬克和布赖恩·阿姆斯特朗(Brian Armstrong)讨论加密货币,拉里·芬克提到他之前对加密货币的看法是错误的。
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Um I thought this one was pretty interesting. Larry Frink and Brian Armstrong discussing crypto and Larry Frink mentions that um he was wrong on crypto.
他称加密货币是洗钱的指数。
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>> Uh called crypto an index for money laundering.
贝莱德(BlackRock)。
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>> Uh, Black Rockck
和小偷。
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>> And Thieves.
是的。
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>> Yes.
洗钱和小偷。
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>> Money laundering and thieves.
嗯,你现在拥有最大的比特币ETF(Bitcoin ETF: 追踪比特币价格的交易所交易基金)。
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>> Um, you uh now have the biggest Bitcoin ETF.
那么,这里发生了什么?
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>> So, what happened here?
我有非常强烈的观点,但这并不意味着我不会犯错。但是,通过持有强烈的观点,你必须考验自己并问自己。你知道,在我的职位上,我每年会见到数千名客户。我接触政府领导人,我们进行这些对话,我的思维过程总是在不断演变,这是一个非常明显的公开例子,表明我的观点发生了重大转变。
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>> I have very strong views, but that doesn't mean I'm not wrong. Uh, but you by having strong views, you have to test yourself and ask yourself. And, you know, in my role, I see, you know, thousands of clients a year. I have, you know, governmental leaders and we have these conversations and it my my thought process always evolves and this is a a very glaring public example of of a a big shift in my opinion.
所以,显然在代币化(tokenization: 将现实世界资产或权利转化为区块链上数字代币的过程)的世界中,随着代币化持续扩展,越来越多的人对此感到兴奋。你看到贝莱德的拉里·芬克看到了这个数万亿美元的机会。
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So obviously in the world of tokenization and as tokenization continues to expand, more people get excited about it. You see Larry Fank from Black Rockck seeing this like multi- trillion dollar opportunity.
这也是他为何更加兴奋,以及他为何可能承认他所承认的事情的原因。好了,今天的节目到此为止。感谢大家的收听和观看。我们明天将在另一集每日回顾中再见。
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That is also why he gets more excited and why he's probably admitting what he's admitting about. All right, that's it for me. Thank you everybody for listening and watching. I will see you guys tomorrow on another episode of the daily recap.
我们越来越多地看到AI世界如何与各种不同的垂直领域交叉,以及这些垂直领域在叙事方面也多么脆弱。但我们将每天持续更新,以便在前进的过程中理解这个叙事。感谢大家的观看。我们下期再见。
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And more and more we continue to see how the world of AI is intersecting with a variety of different verticals and how these verticals are also fragile in terms of their narrative. But we're going to keep updating every single day to understand this narrative as we go forward. Thank you everybody for watching. I'll see you guys on the next one.
📌 文中提及的人物和组织
人物: Jensen Huang, Elon Musk, Kevin Hassett, Rick Rieder, Christopher Waller, Larry Fink, Brian Armstrong, Donald Trump, Satya Nadella
公司/组织: Microsoft, Nvidia, Google, OpenAI, Tesla, Amazon, BlackRock, Federal Reserve, US Treasury, ADP, Abercrombie, Urban Outfitters, Best Buy, PayPal, NASDAQ, S&P, Anthropic, CoreWeave, Amkor, Broadcom
产品/模型: Copilot, Azure, CUDA, Vera Rubin, ChatGPT
媒体/书籍: Joe Rogan, The Information, Politico, CNBC, Morgan Stanley Report, Dealbook Conference