大空头做空AI泡沫,英伟达“亲儿子”财报揭示风险与机遇 投资TALK君 2025-11-11

市场概览与本期焦点

各位观众大家好,欢迎来到本期专业与非专业的美国市场分析节目。我是市场分析员小。

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Hello everyone, and welcome to this professional and non-professional US market analysis channel. I am market analyst Xiao.

今天我们将深入探讨一个热门话题:被称为“世纪大空头”的Michael Burry(知名投资者,因成功预测2008年金融危机而闻名)做空整个AI板块的观点。他特别提出了一个关于“折旧”的概念。

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Today, we're going to talk about a hot topic: the "Big Short" Michael Burry is shorting the entire AI sector. He specifically brought up a concept called depreciation.

我们将详细拆解他的观点是否有价值,以及整个AI领域是否存在泡沫。恰逢周一盘后,英伟达的“亲儿子”CoreWeave(一家提供大规模GPU算力的云服务公司)发布了财报,我们将以此为切入点,深入分析Burry的做空逻辑。

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We will do a very detailed breakdown of whether his concept itself, or his view itself, is valuable, and whether it's worth our reference, and whether the entire AI sector has a bubble. Coincidentally, after the market close on Monday, Nvidia's "prodigal son," CoreWeave, released its earnings report. We will use this company's perspective to trigger a very detailed breakdown of his view itself, okay?

在深入这些内容之前,我们先借由FactSet(一家金融数据和软件公司)的数据,对第三季度的财报做一个总结。

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Before we delve into these topics, let's first use FactSet data to summarize the third-quarter earnings report, okay? I won't waste any more time; let's get straight to it. Everyone, please like and leave comments.

周一市场表现与仓位调整

首先,我们来看一下周一资产价格的走势。美元和美债市场的波动不大,但三大指数出现了比较大的涨幅。

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First, let's look at Monday's asset price movements. The US dollar and US bond markets saw little volatility, but the three major indices experienced significant gains.

我在早上10点、11点的时候曾说过,今天的涨幅其实没有那么舒适,市场参与度不高。但在我发表此言论后,大约11点半到12点左右,从小时的K线图来看,市场走出了一个下影线,随后便一路反弹。

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I mentioned in the morning, around 10 or 11 o'clock, that today's gains weren't that comfortable, and participation wasn't very high. However, after I made that statement, around 11:30 or 12:00, looking at the hourly candlestick chart, the market formed a lower shadow line and then rebounded all the way.

从最终结果来看,整个周一的市场参与度是健康的,出现了比较明显的回升。标普500指数,如果我没记错的话,应该是20日均线和50日均线都回到了44%还是48%(具体数据大家可以在我的APP中查看)。纳斯达克指数的参与度也出现了上升。

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Looking at the final results, overall market participation on Monday was okay, showing a relatively clear rebound. If I remember correctly, the S&P 500's 20-day and 50-day moving averages both returned to 44% or 48% (you can check the specific data on my app). Nasdaq participation also increased. So, looking at the closing results, participation was okay and had increased.

黄金上涨了2.9%,VIX(芝加哥期权交易所波动率指数,常被称为“恐慌指数”)下跌了7.8%。罗素2000指数涨幅相对较低,为0.9%。比特币也上涨了1%。

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Gold rose 2.9%, VIX fell 7.8%. The Russell 2000 had a relatively lower gain of 0.9%. Bitcoin also rose 1%.

周一的涨幅基本全部来自于大型科技股:大科技板块上涨2.8%,芯片板块上涨2.6%,科技板块整体上涨2.6%。相比之下,标普等权指数仅上涨0.6%。

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Monday's gains were almost entirely from big tech: 2.8% for big tech, 2.6% for the chip sector, and 2.6% for the tech sector overall. The S&P Equal Weight Index, in contrast, rose 0.6%.

有三个板块出现了下跌:必需消费品、公用事业和REITs(Real Estate Investment Trusts: 房地产投资信托基金),这些都是相对防御性较强的板块。

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Three sectors experienced declines: consumer staples, utilities, and REITs, which are relatively defensive sectors.

整个周一的走势有点像“Risk On”(风险偏好上升),与上一周的“Risk Off”(风险偏好下降)形成对比。上一周是板块轮动,科技板块表现良好,防御板块走弱;而本周一我们看到的是防御板块走弱,资金流向科技板块。

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The overall trend on Monday was somewhat "risk on," contrasting with last week's "risk off." Last week saw sector rotation, with tech performing well and defensive sectors weakening. This Monday, we saw defensive sectors weaken and funds flow into tech.

我在周一进行了一次仓位调整。具体是什么样的调整,希望大家可以打开我的APP查看,因为我所有的仓位调整都在APP上免费分享。

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I made a position adjustment on Monday. What kind of adjustment it was, I hope everyone can open my APP to see, because all my position adjustments are shared for free on my APP.

本周财报预览与个人操作

本周将有多家公司发布财报。CoreWeave已在周一盘后发布,稍后我们将详细展开。周二盘前,New Relic(一家软件分析公司)也将发布财报,如果明天有机会,我们也可以聊聊。

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Let's look at the companies that will release earnings this week. CoreWeave released earnings after the market close on Monday, which we'll discuss in detail shortly. On Tuesday before the market opens, New Relic will also release earnings, which we can discuss tomorrow if there's an opportunity.

周二盘前,Sea Limited(一家东南亚互联网公司,旗下有电商平台Shopee和游戏平台Garena)也将发布财报。这家公司其实是我今天操作的一家公司。

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On Tuesday before the market opens, Sea Limited will release its earnings report. This company is actually one that I operated on today.

我卖出Sea Limited并非不看好其财报,我并不知道它发布财报后是涨是跌。卖出完全是因为我在两三周前就分享过,接下来我会“降贝塔”(降低投资组合的系统性风险),并会调整出一些仓位,Sea Limited就是其中之一。我上一周其实已经做出了仓位调整,今天只是把剩下的仓位卖出而已。我对此财报没有任何判断。

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Why did I sell this company? It's not that I'm not optimistic about their earnings report on Tuesday. I don't know whether they will rise or fall after the earnings report is released. The sale of Sea Limited is entirely because I shared with everyone two or three weeks ago that I would be "lowering beta" and taking out some positions, and Sea Limited is one of those companies. I actually made position adjustments last week, and today I just sold the remaining positions. It's not that I have a very strong judgment about this earnings report; I have no judgment. I don't know whether it will rise or fall after the earnings report is released. That's one point.

周三和周四,我剩下的两家持股公司——基本上是我所有持仓中最后两家公司——将发布财报。周三和周四的盘前,会有Circle(一家加密货币公司,发行稳定币USDC)和Disney(迪士尼)发布财报。

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Then on Wednesday and Thursday, my remaining two holdings, which are basically the last two companies in all my positions, will release earnings reports. On Wednesday and Thursday before the market opens, Circle and Disney will release earnings.

我在X(前Twitter)上今天说过,我对这两家公司的财报本身并没有那么担心。因为Circle本身可以看USDC(USD Coin: 一种与美元挂钩的稳定币)的流通量,而USDC的流通量在上一周Coinbase(美国最大的加密货币交易所之一)发布财报时,我们已经看到其环比增速非常高。

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I said on X today that I'm not that concerned about the earnings reports of these two companies themselves. Because for Circle, you can look at the circulation of USDC, and for USDC, we already saw a very high month-over-month growth rate in circulation when Coinbase released its earnings report last week, or the week before last.

而Disney本身,由于Disney+(迪士尼流媒体服务)和ESPN(体育媒体网络)的整合(ESPN的一部分内容已放到Disney+中),所以这个季度Disney+的订阅者应该会出现比较明显的上升。重要的是看执行情况。因此,这两家公司财报的基本面我并没有那么担心。当然,盘后发布财报后是涨是跌,我没有任何把握。

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And for Disney itself, because of Disney+ and ESPN (a part of ESPN's content has already been put into Disney+), the number of subscribers for Disney+ should show a relatively significant increase this quarter. The important thing is to look at the execution. So, I'm not that worried about the fundamentals of these two companies' earnings reports. Of course, I have no certainty whether they will rise or fall after the earnings report is released after hours.

On Holding(一家瑞士运动品牌公司)这家公司在周三盘前发布财报。On Holding其实算是我今年到目前为止操作比较完美的一家公司。我只能说比较完美。我是在去年28、29美元买入的,然后在今年年初60美元减仓,之后在50多美元(好像是50美元)的位置做了最后的技术性减仓。我说如果跌破那个价位,我就全部清仓了。

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On Holding, this company released its earnings report before the market opened on Wednesday. On Holding is actually one of the companies I've operated on most perfectly so far this year. I can only say "relatively perfect." I bought it at $28-29 last year, then reduced my position at $60 at the beginning of this year, and then made the final technical reduction at around $50 (I think it was $50). I said if it fell below that price, I would liquidate all my positions.

从现在来看,从我清仓的价格继续往下跌了30%。你看它基本面,看它数据,其实并没有变糟糕。我个人认为市场在走一个逻辑,就是当初这家公司和Decker(一家美国鞋类和服装公司,旗下有UGG等品牌)这两家公司涨幅非常好,我认为是因为它们抢了很多Nike(耐克)的市场占有率。

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From now on, it has continued to fall by 30% from the price at which I liquidated. If you look at its fundamentals, its data, it actually hasn't gotten worse. I personally believe the market is following a logic, which is that these two companies, On Holding and Decker, had very good gains, and I believe it's because they took a lot of market share from Nike.

而Nike,我认为现在市场在走的一个逻辑是:有没有可能Nike的市场占有率会慢慢回来?也就是说,Nike慢慢地在抢回原本被On Holding和Decker这两个品牌抢走的市场占有率。我认为市场有可能在定价这一部分,这也是为什么最近这段时间相对会弱一点,或者股价走势会弱一点。当然,另外一个更简单的解释就是“杀估值”,因为这两家公司的估值并不低。

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And for Nike, I think the logic the market is following now is: is it possible that Nike's market share will slowly come back? That is, Nike is slowly reclaiming the market share that was originally taken by the On Holding and Decker brands. I think the market might be pricing this in, which is why it might be relatively weaker recently, or the stock price trend might be weaker. Of course, another simpler explanation is "valuation kill," because the valuations of these two companies are not low.

第三季度财报总结

我们来看一下财报数据。首先,截至目前,91%的公司已经全部发布完财报。我们看到,在9月30日,也就是发布财报之前,市场对于第三季度EPS(Earnings Per Share: 每股收益)增速的预期仅仅只有7.9%。到现在,这个数字已经达到了13.1%。

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Let's look at the earnings data. First, as of now, 91% of companies have already released their earnings reports. We can see that on September 30th, before the earnings reports were released, the market's expectation for the third-quarter EPS growth was only 7.9%. Now, this figure has reached 13.1%.

从板块角度来看,除了通讯服务(Communication Services)这一块,原本市场预期是3%,最后结果是负7.1%以外,所有板块全部好于市场预期。所以这一个季度基本上是非常全面的“Beat”(超出预期)。

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From a sector perspective, except for communication services, where the market originally expected 3% but the final result was -7.1%, all sectors performed better than market expectations. So this quarter was basically a very comprehensive "beat."

但最终结果并没有那么好。我们这个季度看到了比较大范围的“Sell the News”(利好出尽即是利空)现象。随着基本上所有公司(91%已发布,还有9%未发布)已经全部发布完财报,市场对于2025年EPS增速的预期已经来到了11.6%。上一次更新的时候还是11%吧?对吧?随着大型科技公司发布完财报后,已经来到了11.6%。

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But the final results weren't that good. This quarter we saw a widespread "sell the news" phenomenon. With basically all companies (91% have released, 9% haven't) having released their earnings reports, the market's expectation for 2025 EPS growth has reached 11.6%. It was 11% last time it was updated, right? Right? After big tech companies released their earnings reports, it has reached 11.6%.

随着第四季度财报发布完之后,当我们站在2026年回过头来看2025年,我估计最终可能会停在13%左右,就像我上次预测的一样。现在市场对于2026年EPS增速的预期是14.3%,接近14%。这个数字接下来还会调整,到年底的时候,我们再来对2026年做一个展望。

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After the fourth-quarter earnings reports are released, when we look back at 2025 from 2026, I estimate that the final figure might settle around 13%, just as I predicted last time. The current market expectation for 2026 EPS growth is 14.3%, close to 14%. This number will be adjusted further. Towards the end of the year, we will then make a forecast for 2026.

在这段时间,或者接下来一个半月左右的时间里,我将继续执行我在10月初制定的计划:如果市场和芯片股去到一个比较高的位置,在这一路上我都会慢慢地把自己仓位里的贝塔(Beta: 衡量资产或投资组合相对于整体市场波动性的指标)给减掉。

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During this period, or in the next month and a half or so, I will continue to execute the plan I formulated in early October: if the market and chip stocks reach a relatively high position, I will gradually reduce the beta in my positions along the way.

“Sell the News”体现在哪里?比如有166家公司,其最终财报结果的EPS增速好于市场预期0到5%,但这类公司平均下跌了2.1%。正常情况下,它们应该出现上涨,而不是下跌。

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Where is "sell the news" reflected? For example, 166 companies had EPS growth results that were 0 to 5% better than market expectations, but these companies on average fell by 2.1%. Under normal circumstances, they should have risen, not fallen.

换个角度看,如果好于预期,平均上涨幅度是0.9%,而这个季度是0,没有任何上涨幅度。如果你差于市场预期,平均下跌幅度是2.6%,而这个季度是负5.1%。所以,市场明显对表现不佳的公司惩罚非常大,而表现好的公司也不见得会出现上涨。

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From another perspective, if it was better than expected, the average increase was 0.9%, but this quarter it was 0, with no increase. If you were worse than market expectations, the average decrease was 2.6%, but this quarter it was -5.1%. So, the market clearly punishes underperforming companies very severely, and even well-performing companies don't necessarily see gains.

Michael Burry的AI做空逻辑:折旧与资本开支

最后,我们来聊一下AI,或者说“世纪大空头”是如何做空AI的。他背后的一个核心概念是会计准则中的“折旧”(Depreciation: 资产价值随时间推移而减少的会计处理)。

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Finally, let's talk about AI, or how the "Big Short" is shorting AI. One of the core concepts behind his view is "depreciation" in accounting principles.

通常来说,我们在做资本性开支(Capex:Capital Expenditure,资本支出,用于购买或升级固定资产)和运营开支(Opex:Operating Expenditure,运营支出,用于日常经营)时,其背后的概念是一样的,都是公司花钱。运营开支是你每年花多少就是多少,而资本性开支背后有一个比较“棘手”的地方。

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Generally speaking, when we talk about capital expenditure (Capex) and operating expenditure (Opex), the underlying concept is the same: a company spends money. Operating expenditure is simply how much you spend each year, but capital expenditure has a trickier aspect.

这意味着你现在花100块钱,这100块钱不会马上计入你今年的开支,因为它有可能分成5年、两年或15年去进行折旧。那么,到底是两年、五年还是15年呢?这背后“公说公有理,婆说婆有理”,于是就出现了观点上的不一致。

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This means that if you spend 100 yuan now, this 100 yuan will not immediately enter your expenses for this year, because it may be depreciated over 5 years, 2 years, or 15 years. So, should it be 2 years, 5 years, or 15 years? There are valid arguments from different perspectives, leading to disagreements in viewpoints.

观点上的不一致会导致大家对这个假设的不一致,从而使得有些人认为整个市场中的这些假设过于乐观,有些人可能认为是过于悲观,或者合理。没有人会认为过于悲观。如果认为是过于乐观的话,就像Michael Burry一样,他认为过于乐观,那么整个市场里边就存在泡沫。

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Disagreements in viewpoints lead to disagreements in assumptions, causing some to believe these assumptions in the market are overly optimistic, while others might consider them overly pessimistic, or reasonable. No one would consider them overly pessimistic. If they are considered overly optimistic, like Michael Burry, he believes they are overly optimistic, then there is a bubble in the entire market.

举个例子,资本性开支。我现在花100块钱,如果我现在买入的GPU(Graphics Processing Unit: 图形处理器)在5年之后不值任何钱,那么每年的花费就是20块钱,对吧?每年你应该计入的折旧就是20块钱。如果它在4年之后就没有任何价值,那么你的折旧就应该是25块钱。

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For example, capital expenditure. If I spend 100 yuan now, and the GPU I buy now is worth nothing after 5 years, then the annual expense is 20 yuan, right? The depreciation you should record each year is 20 yuan. If it has no value after 4 years, then your depreciation should be 25 yuan.

25和20有什么差别?当然有差别。如果你今年的折旧是20块钱,它会提升你今年的盈利(因为这是花费)。如果你今年的折旧是25块钱,相比起20块钱的花费,它会降低你总体的盈利能力。如果你是两年折旧,你平均每年是50块钱的折旧,它会大幅降低你今年的盈利。

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What's the difference between 25 and 20? Of course there's a difference. If your depreciation this year is 20 yuan, it will increase your profit this year (because this is an expense). If your depreciation this year is 25 yuan, compared to the 20 yuan expense, it will reduce your overall profitability. If you depreciate over two years, your average annual depreciation is 50 yuan, which will significantly reduce your profit this year.

所以我们发现,这个折旧的假设会大幅影响到像CoreWeave这类公司前两年的盈利能力。如果你相对乐观一点,你假设比如像现在,你假设是像Michael Burry今天分享的这张图,假设5年或者6年,那你前两年这个盈利能力(Margin:利润率)将会非常高,你接下来几年可能就会比较难看。

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So we find that this depreciation assumption will significantly affect the profitability of companies like CoreWeave in their first two years. If you are relatively optimistic, and you assume, for example, like the chart Michael Burry shared today, assuming 5 or 6 years, then your profitability (margin) in the first two years will be very high, and the next few years might look relatively bad.

从另外一个角度看,这边的一个数据是AWS(Amazon Web Services: 亚马逊云计算服务)的GPU价格,你看它每年所可以卖出去的价格其实也一直在下跌。这也恰恰证明了像GPU、CPU(Central Processing Unit: 中央处理器)这类资产是贬值资产。你前两年它的价值是最大的,所以你可以卖出去的价格就越高,而接下来三年之后,你的价格就会持续下跌,而且下跌的幅度可能会比较大。

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From another perspective, the data here is the GPU price on AWS. You can see that the price at which it can be sold each year has actually been falling. This precisely proves that assets like GPUs and CPUs are depreciating assets. Their value is highest in the first two years, so the price you can sell them for is higher, but after the next three years, their price will continue to fall, and the magnitude of the fall may be quite significant.

比如说,这边举两个例子:一个是H100(英伟达高端GPU型号),一个是A100(英伟达上一代高端GPU型号)。H100在2024年第四季度是3.29美元,今年是2.72美元,同比下跌17%。A100去年同期是2.49美元,今年是1.02美元,同比下跌60%。

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For example, here are two examples: one is the H100, and the other is the A100. The H100 was $3.29 in Q3 and Q4 of 2024, and this year it's $2.72, a year-over-year decrease of 17%. The A100 was $2.49 in the same period last year, and this year it's $1.02, a year-over-year decrease of 60%.

这就恰恰说明了这些资产(GPU、CPU)本身,你时间拖得越长,你都不需要拖4年、5年,你拖个一年两年之后,它的价格就在下跌,说明它这个资产本身的价值下跌幅度就非常大。

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This precisely illustrates that for these assets (GPUs, CPUs) themselves, the longer you wait—you don't even need to wait 4 or 5 years, just one or two years—their price falls, indicating a very significant decline in the asset's inherent value.

CoreWeave财报分析:营收、融资与风险

接下来我们聊聊CoreWeave这家公司。先来看一下数据。数据本身其实非常不错:营收高于市场预期6%,EPS好于市场预期77%,Adjusted Operating Income(调整后运营利润)也超出市场预期22.3%。

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Next, let's talk about CoreWeave. First, let's look at the data. The data itself is actually very good: revenue was 6% higher than market expectations, EPS was 77% better than market expectations, and adjusted operating income also exceeded market expectations by 22.3%.

为什么盘后出现下跌?是因为他们其中的一个数据中心的交付要往后延。我们来看更多的一些细节,因为并不是所有的观众都对这家公司非常了解。

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Why did the stock fall after hours? It's because the delivery of one of their data centers has been delayed. Let's look at more details, as not all viewers are very familiar with this company.

先来看一下他们这个季度的营收:14亿美元,同比增速134%,翻倍还多。这里面最重要的数据是什么?RPO(Remaining Performance Obligation: 剩余履约义务),达到了500亿美元。RPO就是他们未来和合作或签合同的公司必须履行的业务。

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First, let's look at their revenue for this quarter: $1.4 billion, a year-over-year growth of 134%, more than double. What is the most important data here? RPO, which is $50 billion. RPO refers to the business that companies cooperating or contracting with them must fulfill in the future.

记住,这是“必须履行的义务”。他们背后的三大客户是谁?分别是OpenAI(人工智能研究公司)、微软和Meta。这个合同的细则非常重要,因为它确保了这类公司未来营收的体量得到确定,或者说确定性非常非常高。

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Remember, this is a "must-fulfill obligation." Who are their three major clients behind them? They are OpenAI, Microsoft, and Meta. The details of this contract are very important because it ensures that the future revenue volume of this type of company is determined, or rather, the certainty is very, very high.

正是因为他们未来营收的确定性非常高,才使得这类公司敢于现在投入如此多的资本性开支。其次,也正是因为他们未来营收的确定性非常高,才使得他们可以演变出现在的这种融资方式。

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It is precisely because the certainty of their future revenue is very high that these types of companies dare to invest so much capital expenditure now. Secondly, it is also precisely because the certainty of their future revenue is very high that they can evolve into their current financing method.

什么融资方式?就是现在市场里讨论度也比较高的,他们把自己从英伟达买来的GPU,加上和其他公司之间的订单本身,作为一个担保去借钱。如果你单纯地只拿GPU去借钱,你会发现这笔买卖谁愿意把钱借给你?因为你知道GPU本身是一个贬值资产。

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What kind of financing method? It's what's currently being discussed a lot in the market: they use the GPUs they bought from Nvidia, plus the orders they have with other companies, as collateral to borrow money. If you simply use GPUs as collateral to borrow money, you'll find that no one would want to lend you money for this deal, because you know that GPUs themselves are depreciating assets.

就好比你现在拿一辆车去做抵押,它最多抵押给你车价的30%或20%,因为大家都知道这辆车本身是一个贬值资产。GPU也是一样。但是,如果它在这个协议里面,把和微软之间的这个合同加进去的话,把微软之间未来这个现金流的合同加进去的话,那么这个Collateral(抵押品)本身就变得非常有价值。

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It's like if you use a car as collateral now, they would at most lend you 30% or 20% of the car's value, because everyone knows that the car itself is a depreciating asset. GPUs are the same. However, if they include the contract with Microsoft in this agreement, and include the future cash flow contract with Microsoft, then this collateral itself becomes very valuable.

因为微软是谁?微软告诉你,或者微软承诺你的这个现金流,比美国政府承诺你的这个现金流,最后所履行的概率还要更高。美国政府的评级没有微软高,微软是3A,美国政府是2A,对吧?

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Because who is Microsoft? Microsoft tells you, or Microsoft promises you this cash flow, and the probability of it being fulfilled is even higher than the cash flow promised by the US government. The US government's rating is not as high as Microsoft's; Microsoft is triple-A, and the US government is double-A, right?

所以这类贷款方式,它叫做DDTL(Debt for Data Center Lease: 数据中心租赁债务)。市场里讨论比较高,说这类DDTL的贷款方式风险非常高。我倒在这一块,我并不认为风险非常高。因为如果你单纯地只是以GPU作为抵押品,确实风险非常高。但是如果你把和微软之间的这个Contract(合同)这个协议本身也放进去做抵押的话,那这个抵押品本身的Credibility(信用程度)就高了很多。

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So this type of lending is called DDTL. There's a lot of discussion in the market that this type of DDTL lending is very high-risk. I, on the other hand, don't think the risk is very high here. Because if you simply use GPUs as collateral, the risk is indeed very high. But if you also put the contract itself with Microsoft as collateral, then the credibility of this collateral itself becomes much higher.

当然,他们也可以直接去二级市场上发债17.5亿美元,或者说直接去融资,直接去发股权。那么总共加一起,CoreWeave到现在为止融资的体量是40亿美元。这40亿美元够不够呢?明显不够。

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Of course, they can also directly issue bonds in the secondary market for $1.75 billion, or directly raise capital, directly issue equity. So, all together, CoreWeave has raised $4 billion in financing so far. Is this $4 billion enough? Clearly not.

整个2025年,他们资本性支出这一块的预算是130亿美元。再加上利息这一块的支出(你借钱总得有利息吧),2025年就已经达到了12.3亿美元。你全部加一起的话,整个资本性开支加上利息这一块的支出就已经达到了140亿美元。

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For the entire year 2025, their capital expenditure budget is $13 billion. Plus interest expenses (you have to pay interest when you borrow money), which already reached $1.23 billion in 2025. If you add it all up, the total capital expenditure plus interest expenses has already reached $14 billion.

那么再加上他们现在期待2026年是在2025年的这个基础上,翻倍都不止。想一下,我们做一个算术:2025年总共是130亿美元(我都不算利息支出),然后明年2026年还要更高。130亿加260亿,就是你这两年全部加在一起,资本性开支起码也有400亿美元。

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Then, adding to that, they now expect 2026 to be more than double the 2025 figure. Think about it, let's do some math: 2025 totals $13 billion (I'm not even counting interest expenses), and next year, 2026, will be even higher. $13 billion plus $26 billion means that the total capital expenditure for these two years combined will be at least $40 billion.

为什么他们敢去这么花钱呢?因为前面我们聊的这个RPO,就是为了这个盈利,为了这个营收(我一直说盈利不是盈利,是他们未来这个营收)确定性非常高。RPO总共是500亿美元。所以你有了未来的这个营收之后,才敢让他们现在去砸重金,400亿美元花下去。

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Why do they dare to spend so much money? Because of the RPO we discussed earlier, which is for this profit, for this revenue (I keep saying profit, but it's their future revenue), the certainty is very high. The total RPO is $50 billion. So, with this future revenue, they dare to invest heavily now, spending $40 billion.

260亿美元一年是什么概念?其实真的非常大。因为你想,大型科技公司里面最大的一家公司亚马逊,一年花多少?1000多亿,1200亿、1300亿吧。那么260亿美元,已经是亚马逊资本性开支的五分之一了。你体量和亚马逊差非常多,营收和亚马逊差非常多,但是你在资本开支这一块已经达到了亚马逊的五分之一。所以我们要对背后的数字稍微有些概念,我们就知道这些公司砸那么多的资本性开支,确实这个体量已经非常大。

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What does $26 billion a year mean? It's actually a very large amount. Because if you think about Amazon, one of the largest big tech companies, how much does it spend in a year? Over $100 billion, maybe $120 billion or $130 billion. So $26 billion is already one-fifth of Amazon's capital expenditure. Your scale is very different from Amazon's, and your revenue is very different from Amazon's, but your capital expenditure has already reached one-fifth of Amazon's. So we need to have some concept of the numbers behind it, and we'll know that these companies are indeed investing a very large amount of capital expenditure.

这类公司的风险来自于哪里?其实它的风险倒并不是来自于如果AI的需求下降,然后他们可能有些风险。因为即使AI的需求下降,他们的营收是没有风险的。前面聊到了,AI如果需求下降的话,我们还是拿微软举例子。AI如果需求下降的话,微软是会受到冲击,微软在他们云那一块的利润率会受到冲击。但是微软还是必须要支付给CoreWeave他们原本所承诺的这个营收,或者这一笔钱他必须要给。

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Where do the risks for these types of companies come from? Actually, their risk doesn't come from a potential decrease in AI demand. Because even if AI demand decreases, their revenue is not at risk. As discussed earlier, if AI demand decreases, let's take Microsoft as an example. If AI demand decreases, Microsoft will be impacted, and Microsoft's margin in their cloud business will be impacted. But Microsoft still has to pay CoreWeave the revenue they originally promised, or this sum of money must be paid.

无论你是用不用,我就给你提供这一部分的算力,无论你这一部分算力是用还是不用,或者你用多少,你都必须要付给我原本我们所承诺的这笔钱。不然的话,像CoreWeave这类公司,它不可能现在砸那么多资金下去。所以这一点就是,如果需求下降的话,对于像CoreWeave这类公司,它的营收不会存在非常大的影响。反而微软的利润率是会受到影响,或者AWS的利润率也会受到影响。

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Whether you use it or not, I will provide you with this part of the computing power. Whether you use this part of the computing power or not, or how much you use, you must pay me the money we originally promised. Otherwise, companies like CoreWeave would not be able to invest so much capital now. So, the point is, if demand decreases, companies like CoreWeave will not experience a very large impact on their revenue. Instead, Microsoft's margin will be affected, or AWS's margin will also be affected.

那么什么风险呢?集中性风险(Concentration Risk)。集中性风险也是在这次财报里面有分析员问他们,他说你们未来因为现在它背后的订单非常集中,三大公司:Meta、微软,还有OpenAI。那未来有没有可能会有更多的一些公司?

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So what's the risk? Concentration risk. Concentration risk was also something an analyst asked them about in this earnings report. He said that in the future, because their current orders are very concentrated, with three major companies: Meta, Microsoft, and OpenAI. Is it possible that there will be more companies in the future?

这一块其实我倒不觉得是一个风险。为什么?我想一想,如果它去找了其他很多的一些小公司,即使今天这家小公司承诺说未来五年我给你100亿美元的订单,你敢接吗?因为这类小公司本身它们的资产负债表就没有那么健康,它们的营收可能也没有那么健康。那它即使扔给你一个100亿美元的订单,它的确定性也不是那么高。

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Actually, I don't think this is a risk. Why? Let me think, if they went to many other small companies, even if this small company today promised you a $10 billion order over the next five years, would you dare to accept it? Because these small companies themselves don't have such healthy balance sheets, and their revenues might not be that healthy. So even if they throw a $10 billion order at you, its certainty isn't that high.

相反,这些大科技公司,像Meta这些大公司,能够和你签的这个订单,它的确定性就高。但是这些大公司就会有个集中性的风险嘛。但在现在这个程度来看的话,我并不认为这些集中风险有那么重要。这反而成为你未来营收的保障,对吧?万一AI的需求放缓的话,那这些大科技公司保证了你的营收,因为大科技公司还是有这个能力去把这个钱去履行原本我们所签下的合同。

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Conversely, the orders that these big tech companies, like Meta, can sign with you have high certainty. But these big companies come with a concentration risk. However, at the current stage, I don't think these concentration risks are that important. Instead, they become a guarantee for your future revenue, right? If AI demand slows down, these big tech companies guarantee your revenue, because big tech companies still have the ability to fulfill the contracts we originally signed.

第二个风险叫做执行力风险(Execution Deployment Risk)。执行力的这个风险本身,其实在这个季度财报里面看到了一些。其中一个数据中心的交付时间点往后延。这其实对于他们来说是一个风险。因为我比如说我作为Meta,对吧,我和你签了协议,我说你今年年底之前你一定要交付给我多少这个算力,最后你没有交付的话,那我是可以跳出这个合同的。我完全可以和别人去签合同,能够理解吗?或者说你给我罚钱等等,就是因为你没有履行到这个合同嘛。

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The second risk is called execution deployment risk. This risk of execution itself was actually seen in this quarter's earnings report. The delivery time point for one of their data centers was delayed. This is actually a risk for them. For example, if I am Meta, right, and I signed an agreement with you saying you must deliver a certain amount of computing power to me before the end of this year, and you don't deliver, then I can exit this contract. I can completely sign a contract with someone else, understand? Or you pay me a penalty, etc., because you didn't fulfill the contract.

当然,现在因为算力的需求还是非常大,就是现在的供给是小于这个需求的,所以Meta说:“我可以等。”那么就现在还是这样的一个情况,但未来就不是这样的一个情况了。

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Of course, currently, because the demand for computing power is still very high, meaning supply is less than demand, Meta says, "I can wait." So, this is still the situation now, but it won't be the case in the future.

最后一个风险是技术风险(Technology Risk)。这个风险其实也是前面Michael Burry所挑战的这个风险。什么意思?就是未来如果英伟达去更新迭代他们的GPU的话,有可能会使得你上一代的GPU,它的价值变成0。当然,这一个前提可能也是建立在整个市场需求开始出现放缓。

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The last risk is technology risk. This risk is actually the one Michael Burry challenged earlier. What does it mean? It means that if Nvidia updates and iterates their GPUs in the future, it might make your previous generation of GPUs worthless. Of course, this premise might also be based on the overall market demand starting to slow down.

当市场需求出现放缓时,就不会存在现在的什么H100、A100还在备用的一个情况。当市场如果需求开始出现放缓的话,大家一定会去需求,就一定会集中在最先进的芯片,而原来比较落后的芯片就没人会用了。

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When market demand slows down, there won't be a situation where H100s or A100s are still in reserve. If market demand starts to slow down, everyone will definitely demand, and will definitely focus on the most advanced chips, and older, less advanced chips will no longer be used.

那没人会去用原来比较落后的芯片,就会逼着像CoreWeave这类公司,他们必须要去更新迭代。当他们如果去更新迭代,换到新一代英伟达芯片的话,意味着对于CoreWeave这家公司,他们需要砸入更多的钱在资本性开支这一块。

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If no one uses the older, less advanced chips, it will force companies like CoreWeave to update and iterate. If they update and iterate to the new generation of Nvidia chips, it means that CoreWeave will need to invest more money in capital expenditure.

所以未来如果需求放缓,对于像CoreWeave这类公司,不是说他们的营收会受到影响,并不是这样。而是如果需求放缓,会使得原本旧的那一代的芯片变得没有价值,大家都需要去追求新一代的芯片,都要去追求这个性能,都要去追求这个效率。

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So, if demand slows down in the future, for companies like CoreWeave, it's not that their revenue will be affected; that's not the case. Rather, if demand slows down, it will make the older generation of chips worthless. Everyone will need to pursue the new generation of chips, pursue performance, and pursue efficiency.

在这种情况下,他和这些大科技公司像微软之间签的这个协议,大科技公司是有这个权利逼或者问或者商讨,让CoreWeave去更新迭代。或者说大家再签一个合同,你在这个新的合同里面,你必须要为我提供最新一代英伟达这个芯片。

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In this situation, with the agreements signed between them and big tech companies like Microsoft, big tech companies have the right to compel, question, or negotiate with CoreWeave to update and iterate. Or, they might sign another contract where you, in this new contract, must provide me with the latest generation of Nvidia chips.

那这种情况如果发生的话,就会使得原本他们认为“我这个芯片6年后才变得没有价值”,就一下子变成3年后就没有价值了。那么那就直接会影响到CoreWeave的利润率。这就是为什么CoreWeave这类公司的营收风险其实是不大的,但是它的风险在哪?它的风险在利润率。

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If that situation occurs, it would mean that a chip they originally thought would become worthless after 6 years would suddenly become worthless after 3 years. That would directly impact CoreWeave's margin. This is why the revenue risk for companies like CoreWeave is actually not significant, but where is its risk? Its risk is in the margin.

它利润率,这非常有可能会出现第一年、第二年你认为你可以赚到这个钱,但是明显接下来第三、第四、第五年你的利润率非常有可能会比第一年、第二年低,甚至要低很多很多,甚至于出现是亏钱的这种状况。如果说你现在所使用的这个GPU本身没有任何价值的话。那这其实就是前面Michael Burry所挑战的一个点。

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Its margin, it's very likely that in the first and second years you think you can make this money, but clearly in the next third, fourth, and fifth years, your margin is very likely to be lower than in the first and second years, even much, much lower, even to the point of losing money. If the GPU you are currently using itself has no value, then this is actually a point that Michael Burry challenged earlier.

当然,最后我想补充一点的是,我并不是认同或者不认同Michael Burry这个观点。我其实认为他那个观点起码是合理的。因为我看到有一些比如说非常看好AI一个行业的人认为:“你看以前H100、A100,包括Google(谷歌)下面的TPU(Tensor Processing Unit: 谷歌开发的AI专用芯片)可以用5年、6年、7年、8年。”就他们做了一个假设是以前TPU可以用7年、8年,所以现在这些CoreWeave假设未来这些芯片还是可以持续6年的话,我认为这个假设是非常危险的。

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Of course, one last thing I want to add is that I neither agree nor disagree with Michael Burry's point of view. I actually think his point is at least reasonable. Because I see some people who are very optimistic about the AI industry, for example, they think: "Look, in the past, H100s, A100s, including Google's TPUs, could be used for 5, 6, 7, 8 years." They made an assumption that TPUs could be used for 7 or 8 years in the past, so if these CoreWeave companies now assume that these chips can still last for 6 years in the future, I think this assumption is very dangerous.

因为你把以前的这个假设当做是未来这个假设。谁能够保证在两三年之后,我们现在英伟达这一代芯片还可以再继续运行四五年?那如果这个需求降低的话,你原来假设它还能够运行四五年的这个假设就不成立了,对吗?那这就是未来,就这就是完全对于未来这个判断。我只说以前的这个假设或者以前我们所看到的这个事实,不代表这个事实在未来还会出现这个延续。就从历史这个结果去做一个线性外推,我认为是比较危险的假设。

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Because you are treating a past assumption as a future assumption. Who can guarantee that in two or three years, this generation of Nvidia chips can still run for another four or five years? If this demand decreases, then your original assumption that it could still run for four or five years would no longer hold true, right? That's the future, that's entirely a judgment about the future. I'm just saying that past assumptions or past facts we've seen don't mean that these facts will continue in the future. I think it's a relatively dangerous assumption to make a linear extrapolation from historical results.

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Finally, for our loyal viewers, Futu Moomoo's current promotion in the US market is very strong, and this promotion is only available to 8 KOLs in all of North America. So, if you go to other channels, you might not even see this promotion.

什么活动呢?就是入金任意金额就可以获得100美金的股票现金券。在这个基础上,达到一定的入金体量,还可以再获得价值1000美金的赠股。所以这两个东西是叠加的。同时,闲置资金可以最高获得年化8.1%的回报。

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What's the promotion? You can get a $100 stock cash coupon by depositing any amount. On top of that, if you reach a certain deposit volume, you can get an additional $1,000 worth of free stock. So these two things are stackable. At the same time, idle funds can earn up to an annualized return of 8.1%.

加拿大市场通过开户且入金,可以获得30加币的股票现金券,加上我们这个频道独有的价值50加币亚马逊的礼品卡,再加上持续两个月2000加币的免佣卡和闲置资金最高可以获得年化6%的回报。

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In the Canadian market, by opening an account and depositing funds, you can receive a $30 CAD stock cash coupon, plus our channel's exclusive $50 CAD Amazon gift card, plus a commission-free card for two months up to $2,000 CAD, and idle funds can earn up to an annualized return of 6%.

所以对于加拿大或者美国这些活动的感兴趣的各位观众,可以在置顶的留言里面找到你们开户的链接。今天这期内容就到这边,我们明天见。

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📌 文中提及的人物和组织

人物: Michael Burry

公司/组织: Nvidia, CoreWeave, OpenAI, Microsoft, Meta, Amazon, Nike, AWS, Google, Disney, Circle, Futu

产品/模型: GPU, CPU, H100, A100, TPU, Disney+