Dr. Li and Dr. Weilong, how did you both end up on stage together?

Let me ask, who do you think is better at playing games between the two of you?

Definitely him.

How could it possibly be me?

I rarely play games.

Really?

I believe your mind and reflexes are way sharper than mine.

I 'm already getting ready to enter my senior years.

Are we really that far apart?

How old are you?

I 'm not even forty yet.

I 'm already fifty-five, almost fifty-six.

Not sixty yet, not sixty yet.

But I hope I can always stay young.

That 's very good.

When I was a kid, I wanted to grow up quickly, but as I get older, I hope I do n't age too fast.

I wish time would just stop.

That 's why we always say that health is very important .

Good health will make our days ahead happy and smooth.

So today is also a kind of intergenerational conversation.

I 'll draw first, then.

Wei Long, can you help us draw one first?

Respecting the elderly and honoring the wise, right?

It 's the heart.

You drew the heart.

I have to put it in first, right?

I need to be very careful because I do n't want to get penalized.

Does this count as a success?

Success

When people think of the heart, they usually wonder what it 's afraid of.

Most would think it 's afraid of oily foods or high cholesterol.

That 's correct—this idea is right.

But in fact, besides cholesterol and fats, the heart is also afraid of other things.

There are other things it 's even more afraid of.

Why?

Because, as we learn in medicine, when certain substances are too high, they can cause inflammation in our bodies.

This includes inflammation of the blood vessels.

It 's like a drainage ditch: if the walls of the ditch are very smooth, then even if there are lots of weeds or silt flowing through, everything can pass smoothly.

But if the walls of the ditch are uneven, then even a small amount of weeds can easily get stuck and cause a blockage.

So, if our blood sugar is too high, the blood vessel walls become inflamed and uneven.

As a result, even if our cholesterol is n't very high—just a little elevated—it can easily accumulate there, leading to blocked blood vessels.

This is what we often talk about. Cardiovascular diseases like myocardial infarction or stroke.

So in fact, what the heart fears more is high blood sugar.

According to statistics on abdominal health, once you are diagnosed with diabetes, your risk of coronary heart disease is double that of the general population .

And if you are a diabetic and develop coronary artery disease, your mortality rate is four times higher than that of the general population.

That 's why we need to pay even more attention to controlling blood sugar.

Paying attention to cholesterol is one of the keys to preventing cardiovascular disease.

I 've prepared a simple guide to balancing cholesterol—click the button at the top right now to get it immediately.

So, how was my explanation?

Was it okay?

It was pretty impressive.

So, that means you have to be punished by drawing a truth card.

This is the main point.

Alright, let me draw a card.

This question is—

Which is harder, being a doctor or being a dad?

Wow, this is a tough question to answer.

At this stage, is it harder for me to be a father or a doctor?

I think being a dad is harder.

Actually, I feel that being a doctor and being a dad are somewhat similar in certain ways.

For example, when we—

What I mean is, we accompany our clients or patients from a state of aging, deterioration, or illness—sometimes even approaching death—and we help bring them back to a healthy or strong condition where they can live independently again.

And as a father, or in the role of a dad, you 're accompanying your child from a more immature, naive stage, helping them grow strong, become independent and self-reliant, so that they can enjoy their own lives, and even surpass our generation.

So I feel that, in a way, the roles of doctor and father are very similar—they 're both about being there, accompanying someone.

Supporting them.

Right.

Exactly, or guiding them.

And I 've noticed another phenomenon.

For example, in our clinic, when we see a patient, maybe after two or three weeks, or a month, they come back and they 've lost a lot of weight.

We all feel, wow, that 's a big change.

My blood test results have become really, really good.

We encourage them, praise them, but with children, they 're always by our side.

After spending so much time together, it becomes really hard to carefully notice their growth, changes, or maturity over a long period.

So what we tend to notice more are the things we think are deviations or problems.

... the things they did n't do well , or the things they could n't figure out.

At these times, your praise, encouragement, guidance, or companionship might not be as much, and instead, you tend to magnify their shortcomings.

So I think, as parents or guardians, sometimes it 's really hard.

That 's right.

I completely agree, one hundred percent.

Just like Teacher Li mentioned earlier, sometimes when we spend every day with our own children, it 's not easy to notice their strengths or progress.

What we tend to see are their shortcomings.

And of course, as fathers, we always hope that ... Good is never enough—we always want them to be even better

So, in your heart, you always feel like they 're still not doing well enough.

Right.

So I often have this feeling: when we 're accompanying our patients, our rational side tends to outweigh our emotional side

But when it comes to being a father, maybe emotion outweighs reason.

That 's why, as the ancients often said, 'teaching with just a finger'.

When we are accompanying our own children, it 's actually very difficult for us to take an encouraging or praising perspective—we always want them to do well.

Of course, from another angle, it 's because we want the best for our children, so it 's hard for us to praise them.

But I think Dr. Li can probably relate: when your child achieves something, you actually feel moved and happy inside, but sometimes it 's just hard to say words of praise out loud.

Yes, we always want to say something more, hoping they can make even more progress.

Right, so I think this is something that also requires practice.

Actually, even though this honest answer was given to Dr. Li, I want to echo it—I personally also feel that being a father is a thousand times harder than being a doctor.

Maybe even ten thousand times harder.

Alright, let me draw a card first.

This one is the kidney.

This one.

This is our kidney.

Where are the kidneys located?

Oh no, you ’ re in trouble.

You ’ ll have to go back and study medicine all over again.

Because the kidneys are hidden in the deeper part of the posterior abdominal cavity, so they ’ re a bit deeper.

Okay, no problem.

What are the kidneys afraid of?

I think the kidneys are afraid of three words: Donald Duck.

What do you mean?

Donald Duck means, first, sugar—blood sugar.

In Taiwan, we ’ re actually a kingdom of dialysis.

The incidence rate of people undergoing dialysis in Taiwan is the highest in the world.

If you look more closely at our fellow citizens who are on dialysis, they ...

A large proportion of them have diabetes.

For example, the 2021 annual report on kidney disease in Taiwan pointed out that as many as 46.5 % of people on dialysis have diabetes.

That figure, nearly 47 %, is extremely high, especially among men—almost half of them have diabetes.

If we look back to the year before they started dialysis, what happened then?

The proportion of people whose primary diagnosis was diabetes was also around 46 % to 47 %.

That 's all.

These numbers are really shocking.

Yes, and especially, the older a person is when they start dialysis, the higher the proportion of diabetes.

What does this mean?

It means that if our kidneys are soaked in a sugary environment for a long time, the extent of damage they suffer will become more and more severe.

Take the kidneys, for example—they 're structured like a water filter, filtering out some of the unwanted metabolic waste while retaining what the body needs.

But if this filter is soaked in sugary water for a long time, the tiny filters inside, like the glomeruli, may become hardened, damaged, or aged.

Naturally, this will affect their filtering function.

As the damage slowly progresses and kidney function starts to decline, dialysis becomes necessary.

So I believe diabetes is very closely related to our kidneys.

Just like Dr. Weilong mentioned earlier, the heart is most afraid of high blood sugar and diabetes—the same goes for the kidneys.

This is something we often tell our patients in the clinic: 'If I do n't control my blood sugar now, I do n't feel anything wrong.

Right now, if I do n't lose weight, I do n't feel anything either.

But over time, what you should really worry about is that these vital organs—whether it 's your heart—

Oh, it 's very dirty, and then the bathroom—without even mentioning the liver—these vital organs are actually all easily affected.

That 's a major reason why we need to control blood sugar and improve our health.

As for aging, that 's the key word here.

It means that many of your lifestyle habits can cause your kidneys to age much faster.

Let me give a simple example.

Most office workers tend to sit for long periods, drink little water, and often have sugary drinks.

Sometimes, when they get busy, we even hold in our urine, sometimes only going to the bathroom after finishing work.

Holding in urine can cause significant infections or strain on the urinary tract and kidneys.

So just from these habits, you ’ re already hitting four risk factors.

If you also stay up late binge-watching shows, snack while watching, or have a little alcohol, these lifestyle habits make your body prone to inflammation, which in turn accelerates kidney aging.

That ’ s why I think these everyday habits are the main reasons why kidneys age and deteriorate so quickly.

The third 'pressure' actually refers to high blood pressure.

As we ’ ve mentioned, both blood sugar and blood pressure are really harmful to the body.

Just imagine your kidneys as a water filter that ’ s constantly under high pressure for a long time.

The pipes in that filter will harden or narrow much earlier, just like what happens in the heart.

The amount of water the filter can process will gradually be affected, so the kidneys will also be impacted.

Once damage begins, kidney function declines even more easily.

Most people might think that eating too much salt is the main issue.

Exactly, and just now Dr. Li mentioned something I completely agree with—because these conditions often have no symptoms at all.

So for us ,

easy people to overlook.

This is what we call a silent disease in the metabolic syndrome group—there are basically no symptoms or sensations.

But by the time you actually feel something, it 's already very serious.

Like with your kidneys—when they 're damaged, in advanced stages of kidney disease, or when you need dialysis you might not feel anything.

That 's right.

So, our organs are actually working really hard for us but you do n't notice it.

They 're constantly coping with your condition, and by the time you feel something, it 's already very serious.

Serious.

So remember, it 's really important to get regular health checkups.

Oh, he got it right—do I have to draw now?

Yes.

So, next up, we have.

Hmm, do you ever feel like society ...

... has standards for body shape that are too strict?

Uh, I think I 'm really suited to answer this question .

Because as everyone knows, I used to be overweight.

I 'm not very tall, and at my heaviest, I was about 85 kilograms.

So at that time, my body fat percentage was really high around 34 or 35, and of course, my BMI was way over the standard.

Back then, the thing I worried about most was buying clothes, especially pants.

Because for shirts, like T-shirts, I could just buy a larger size and it would be fine.

But buying pants was really tough for me, and I had to muster up the courage, because I could n't find pants that fit my waist size.

Your size does n't exist

Right, or even if I could find it, I had to buy an extra-large size and then get it shortened.

So back then, buying clothes was actually a source of stress for me.

So, does society have any special expectations for people who are overweight?

It 's not exactly a requirement, but maybe you just feel something in your own mind.

Invisible pressure

Right, and there 's another thing that really struck me .

Back then, sometimes when I took

the MRT had just started operating ,

the seats on the MRT were okay, but on the bus, since the seats are for two people, if I sat down, the person next to me might feel a bit

pressured.

Hmm, maybe the person next to you does n't actually feel that way, but you end up putting pressure on yourself.

You 're afraid people will look at you negatively, right?

So at that time, the psychological pressure was actually quite heavy.

I—I can also share an experience from my past.

Back when I was working at a hospital, I weighed over ninety kilograms.

At that time, the hospital elevator was really hard to get into.

And every time the elevator made that overweight warning sound, you could n't help but think of yourself.

You 'd take a look at yourself.

You 'd just voluntarily step out.

Later on, I stopped taking the elevator altogether because I felt so much pressure.

Or, when there were only two or three spots left in the elevator, you 'd wonder whether you should get in or not—maybe if you got in, the alarm would go off.

So eventually, I decided to just take the stairs.

And this kind of thing is actually very common, whether in Taiwan, among Chinese people, or in Asia in general.

For example, I once saw a study that said Japanese women ...

One fifth of them are actually underweight.

Oh, so

it ’ s possible that part of the reason is because our society, especially towards women, places excessive emphasis on body shape ,

so it makes them

or, whether it ’ s this or that, the overall social atmosphere causes them to become like this.

And this situation, in turn, can lead them into a state that isn ’ t so healthy physically.

They might end up being relatively underweight, accompanied by these persistent health issues.

metabolic problems.

A couple of days ago in the clinic, I had a very memorable experience with a friend who was coming in for a follow-up on weight loss.

When he came in, he immediately apologized to me, saying that he had eaten recklessly while traveling abroad this time and that his weight had n't gone down.

He was putting a lot of pressure on himself, but honestly, I do n't think there 's any need to put that kind of pressure on yourself.

It 's normal not to always make steady progress, and even to hit plateaus sometimes.

Exactly, and what we 're really talking about is a healthy weight, body shape, and body composition.

It 's not necessarily the number on the scale or your outward appearance that determines your overall condition.

Right?

Seriously, I often say this: I 'd rather we do things at 80 % but keep it up for a lifetime, than go all out at 100 % for just two months.

Exactly.

I believe it 's the same for lawyers in clinics—it 's tough, right?

So, shall we move on to the next question?

No, next up is the surprise round.

A surprise round, huh?

That 's a lot of pressure.

Oh wow.

I just swore, did n't I?

Couldn't catch it.

Nope.

Two sticks.

Looks like you must be from an even older generation than me, your gaming skills are so bad.

I have no idea how to play, I do n't even know what I 'm supposed to catch.

Alright, then you have to be punished by drawing a truth question.

I 'll answer a question.

Which should I pick?

Wait, wait a second.

Let 's not follow the editor 's rules.

You draw a question from my set—it might be more ...

Special.

Will there be traps in there.

No, instead of comparing

If you were n't a medical doctor, what kind of professional job would you ideally do?

It 's quite interesting

This is quite genuinely interesting.

If I were n't a doctor, I 'd probably want to seriously consider becoming a chef.

Chef

Chef.

Whether or not it 's as a chef, just the act of cooking or being in the kitchen is actually a great form of self-care.

That is to say, from getting to know the ingredients, preparing the food, to sharing it with your family and friends, it 's actually something very healing for both body and mind.

I become completely focused and very calm.

Ah, this state of mindfulness is n't something that 's easily achieved by doing other things.

So I really enjoy this process.

The second thing I later realized is that cooking allows me to continuously release a lot of healthy dopamine

Creating these healthy and delicious dishes actually gives me a great sense of satisfaction.

And when you see your family eating it, or when your children are enjoying it, you feel a real sense of accomplishment, because they also feel very satisfied and happy.

I think this kind of dopamine is very healthy and long-lasting.

Even though you drew this question, I really want to answer it because I felt very touched after reading it.

What does Weilong want to be?

What I want to be even more is a fashion designer.

Design.

Designer—because I like designing women 's bags and clothes.

So, if you know me or are close friends with me, you 'd know that my room used to be filled with GQ and all kinds of women 's fashion magazines.

I really love those things because I think they 're so beautiful.

So, if I were n't a doctor, I would really love to do this job.

Let me share a little secret: my wife is actually my former girlfriend.

When she went shopping for clothes, most guys do n't like accompanying their significant other to shop, but I really enjoyed it.

I loved it, because I got to help her pick out stylish outfits, see her wear them, and that feeling gave me a real sense of accomplishment.

That sounds impressive!

Next time, Wei Long should share his experience too.

Alright.

If one day you find out that I 've stopped seeing patients, it means I 've gone off to become a designer.

Then soon we 'll see you on the runway of some international fashion show.

I hope so!

If that happens, I ’ ll definitely collaborate with Churi Medical—combining weight loss and fashion.

That sounds like a great plan.

In this episode, we talked a lot with Organ Pa, covering everything from Organ Pa himself to our views on life and careers.

I feel like I gained a lot from this conversation—it was fantastic.

So, the next person I want to call on is the 41st Division.

Come and talk to us about what organs are afraid of.

Then I 'll call on our Kaohsiung 's rising star, the most beautiful female doctor, Dr. Fan, okay, great.

So we 're looking forward to Dr. Fan and the driver having a discussion about what organs are afraid of.

Audience friends, you can look forward to it.

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