司美格鲁肽能否终结成瘾? TED 2026-07-09

玛丽的戒瘾故事

Dhruv Khullar: 去年,我遇到了一位我称之为玛丽 (Mary)的女性。玛丽在13岁时就开始饮酒,很快她一次就能喝下18罐啤酒,却几乎看不出醉意。她的生活变得一片模糊,终日在醉酒与宿醉中度过。玛丽想要戒酒。她尝试过戒酒康复中心、戒酒互助会 (Alcoholics Anonymous),以及一种名为**双硫仑 (Antabuse)**的药物。但这些对她都没有起作用。

Original English

Dhruv Khullar: Last year, I met a woman I'll call Mary. Mary was 13 when she started drinking, and soon she could drink 18 beers in a sitting and barely seem buzzed. Her days became a blur of inebriation and hangover. Mary wanted to stop drinking. She tried alcohol rehab, Alcoholics Anonymous, a medication called Antabuse. None of them worked for her.

Dhruv Khullar: 有一天,玛丽在酒吧里和一位同样酗酒的朋友聚会。但那天晚上,玛丽注意到她的朋友几乎没怎么动过杯中的酒。朋友告诉她,自己开始服用司美格鲁肽 (Ozempic),现在一次顶多只能喝两罐啤酒。玛丽感到很困惑。她一直认为司美格鲁肽是一种肥胖症药物。这和喝酒有什么关系?但她还是决定加入附近的一项临床试验,该试验正在研究像司美格鲁肽这样的 GLP-1 药物是否能帮助解决酒精成瘾问题。每周,研究人员都会蒙上她的眼睛并为她注射一种溶液——不是司美格鲁肽就是安慰剂。仅仅几周内,玛丽就对啤酒失去了兴趣。她改喝白葡萄酒,接着彻底戒掉了酒。

Original English

Dhruv Khullar: One day, Mary was at a bar with a friend who also drank heavily. But that evening, Mary noticed that her friend had hardly sipped her drink. Her friend told her that she started taking Ozempic, and now she could barely drink two beers at a time. Mary was perplexed. She'd always thought of Ozempic as an obesity medicine. What did it have to do with drinking? But she decided to enroll in a nearby clinical trial that was studying whether GLP-1 medications like Ozempic could help people with alcohol addiction. Every week, researchers blindfolded her and injected her with a solution. Either Ozempic or a placebo. Within weeks, Mary lost her taste for beer. She switched to white wine, and then she stopped drinking altogether.

Dhruv Khullar: 许多人在谈论司美格鲁肽时,会提到它消除了大脑中的“食物噪音”——也就是那些关于吃东西的、挥之不去的、反复出现的杂念。而对玛丽来说,它清除的是酒精噪音。它开始克制她对饮酒的渴望。它将原本压倒性的情感冲动,变成了一种可以保持距离去审视的东西。突然间,她获得了精神空间,去对自己的生活做出早已渴望的改变。她开始锻炼,改善了饮食,并结束了一段痛苦的感情关系。“人们知道 GLP-1 类药物对身体的影响有多大,”她告诉我,“但我认为他们没有意识到,这些药物对大脑心灵的影响同样深远。”

Original English

Dhruv Khullar: Many people talk about Ozempic as getting rid of the food noise inside their heads. Those intrusive, unwanted, repetitive thoughts about eating. For Mary, it cleared out alcohol noise. It started to moderate her desire for drinking. It turned what was an overpowering emotional response into something that could be seen from a distance. Suddenly, she had the mental space to make changes in her life that she had long wanted to. She started exercising. She improved her diet. She ended a difficult relationship. "People know how much GLP-1s affect your body," she told me. "I don't think they realize how much they affect your mind."

Dhruv Khullar: 作为一名医生,我长期以来都希望我们能为饱受成瘾折磨的人们提供更多帮助。听到玛丽的故事,其震撼程度真的难以言表

Original English

Dhruv Khullar: Now as a doctor I have long wished that we had more to offer people who are struggling with an addiction. And hearing Mary's story, it's hard to overstate just how striking it was.

GLP-1的发现与机制

Dhruv Khullar: GLP-1,即胰高血糖素样肽-1,早在20世纪80年代就首次被发现。科学家们当时认为它可能有助于控制糖尿病,但由于天然形式的分子在几分钟内就会分解,因此很难将其转化为药物。重大突破直到多年后才出现,当时一位科学家在研究**希拉毒蜥 (Gila monster)**时,发现这种蜥蜴的毒液中含有一种相似的肽,且该肽可以在体内维持数小时。他的发现催化了后来的 GLP-1 革命

Original English

Dhruv Khullar: GLP-1, or glucagon-like peptide-1, was first discovered way back in the 1980s. Scientists thought that it might be helpful to manage diabetes, but because the naturally-occurring version of the molecule broke down within minutes, it was hard to turn it into a drug. The big break didn't come until years later, when a scientist who was studying Gila monsters, of all things, found that the lizard's venom contained a similar peptide, and that peptide could hang around for hours. His discovery catalyzed what would become the GLP-1 revolution.

Dhruv Khullar: 长期以来,人们认为 GLP-1 主要与消化有关,但现在很明确的是,这类药物的作用远不止调节饮食。它们一些最令人惊讶的效果可能不是发生在肠道,而是在大脑中。玛丽这样的故事让科学家们开始思考,这些药物是否对各种成瘾行为都有所帮助,从酒精、可卡因到赌博和强迫性购物。研究发现,GLP-1 药物可能有助于人们戒烟,减少对阿片类药物的渴望,并减少饮酒量。正如一位神经科学家所说,GLP-1 药物可能在向我们揭示,成瘾在某种程度上存在着一种普适性病理机制,而它们正是我们解决这一问题的方法之一。

Original English

Dhruv Khullar: Now for a long time, GLP-1 was thought to be mainly about digestion, but it's now clear that the medications affect much more than eating. They might have some of their most surprising effects not in the gut, but in the brain. Stories like Mary's have led scientists to consider whether these medications could be helpful for all sorts of addictions, from alcohol and cocaine to gambling and compulsive shopping. Research has found that GLP-1s might help people stop smoking, reduce their cravings for opioids, lead them to consume fewer drinks. As one neuroscientist put it, GLP-1s might be telling us that there is some type of universal pathology when it comes to addiction, and that they are part of how we fix it.

Dhruv Khullar: 这是一个非常诱人的前景:存在一把能开启节制之路的通用钥匙。而这正是 GLP-1 药物展现出的潜质——它们似乎就是节制分子。它们不会彻底熄灭我们的欲望,但能帮我们对其进行控制。而其中的确切原因,目前还没有人完全知晓。

Original English

Dhruv Khullar: Now that is a tantalizing prospect, that there's a general-purpose key that unlocks the path to moderation. But that’s what GLP-1s seem like they could be: moderation molecules. They don't extinguish our desires, but they help us keep them in check. And no one knows exactly why.

Dhruv Khullar: 一种可能性是,它们能够调节大脑中被称为中脑边缘通路 (mesolimbic pathway)的区域,该通路有时也被称为奖赏系统 (reward system)。酒精、尼古丁、可卡因、社交媒体——它们都会增加该通路中多巴胺 (dopamine)的释放。而 GLP-1 药物可能会限制多巴胺的异常激增。比如,注射了药物并给予可卡因的小鼠,其多巴胺的激增幅度会变小,但在其他情况下,它们似乎仍能维持充足的神经递质水平。这说明 GLP-1 药物可能是在平静水面,而不是抽干池水

Original English

Dhruv Khullar: One possibility is that they modulate what's called the brain's mesolimbic pathway, sometimes referred to as the reward system. Alcohol, nicotine, cocaine, social media -- they all increase dopamine release in that pathway. And GLP-1s -- they might be limiting the spikes of dopamine. So mice that are on the medications and given cocaine -- they have smaller surges of dopamine, but they otherwise seem to maintain adequate amounts of the neurotransmitter. GLP-1s could be calming the water without draining the pool.

Dhruv Khullar: 另一方面,GLP-1 药物可能会让戒断某种药物变得更加容易。目前正在接受同行评议的研究发现,对于阿片类药物成瘾的动物,在给予 GLP-1 药物后,它们大脑中参与戒断反应的区域的活动有所减少。因此,这些药物能够引导人们走向节制,不仅是因为它们降低了药物带来的快感,还因为它们让戒断过程变得不那么痛苦

Original English

Dhruv Khullar: At the other end, GLP-1s might make it easier to stop using a drug. Research that's currently under review has found that animals that are addicted to opioids and given a GLP-1s, they have less activity in a part of the brain that's involved with withdrawal. So again, these medications could lead to moderation, not just because they make a drug less pleasurable, but because they make abstinence less painful.

调节分子的双重面貌

Dhruv Khullar: 当然,在现阶段,我们或许也需要克制一下自己对这些药物节制效果的热情。像任何药物一样,GLP-1 药物并不会对每个人都有效。事实上,对某些人来说,这些所谓的“节制分子”可能会展现出它的另一面——成为欲望的压制者。也许有些人失去了对药物、酒精或食物的兴趣,是因为他们对几乎所有事物都失去了兴趣——这种状态被称为快感缺失 (anhedonia)。同样的事实是,成瘾往往是一场终身的斗争,但许多开始使用 GLP-1 药物的人,在几个月内就会停药,无论是由于副作用、成本还是获取途径的问题。即使是那些成功坚持用药的人,最终也可能产生耐药性 (tolerance),从而导致对药物的渴望最终卷土重来。

Original English

Dhruv Khullar: Now at this point, we should probably moderate our own enthusiasm about the moderating effects of these medications. Like any drug, GLP-1s won’t work for everyone. In fact, for some people, these so-called “moderation molecules” could have an alter ego as a desire dampener. Maybe some people lose interest in drugs or alcohol or food because they lose interest in pretty much everything -- a condition known as anhedonia. It's also true that addiction is often a lifelong battle, but many people who start on a GLP-1 -- they come off it within months, whether because of side effects or costs or access. And even people who do manage to stay on the medications might ultimately develop a tolerance to them such that their cravings for a drug ultimately return.

Dhruv Khullar: 然而,考虑到我们在成瘾治疗方面取得的进展是如此微小,我们很难不对 GLP-1 治疗成瘾的潜力感到兴奋。每年有数万名美国人死于阿片类药物过量。自世纪之交以来,与酒精相关的死亡人数增加了一倍以上,而且自美国食品药品监督管理局(FDA)上一次批准治疗酒精使用障碍的药物以来,已经过去了20年。

Original English

Dhruv Khullar: And yet it is hard not to get excited about the potential for GLP-1s to treat addiction when you consider how little progress we have made. Every year, tens of thousands of Americans die of an opioid overdose. Since the turn of the century, alcohol-related deaths have more than doubled, and it has been 20 years since the FDA last approved a medication for alcohol use disorder.

科学探索与道德重塑

Dhruv Khullar: GLP-1 药物从希拉毒蜥的肽,到糖尿病药物,再到减肥药,最终成为潜在的成瘾治疗药物,这条曲折的道路是一个充满希望的故事。但这也是一个包含着启示的故事。希望在于,将有更多人能够获得力量,使他们的渴望、动力和行为达到更和谐的状态,并因此在健康中多活许多年。

Original English

Dhruv Khullar: The winding path of GLP-1s from Gila monster peptide to diabetes medication to obesity drug to potential addiction treatment -- it is a story of hope. But it's also a story with a lesson. The hope is that more people will gain the power to bring their wants and their motivations and their behaviors into greater harmony, and they will live many more years in good health as a result.

Dhruv Khullar: 而这个启示是关于医学进步的不可预测性。像这样的发现提醒了我们,为什么科学好奇心——尤其是那些看起来晦涩难懂或不切实际的好奇心——会如此重要。因为我们不知道下一个重大创新会来自哪里,甚至在初次见到它时,我们可能都无法认出它。

Original English

Dhruv Khullar: The lesson is about the unpredictability of medical progress. Discoveries like this one remind us why scientific curiosity, especially the kind that can seem obscure or impractical, why it matters so deeply. Because we don't know where the next big innovation will come from. We might not even recognize it when we first see it.

Dhruv Khullar: 但现在,GLP-1 正在迫使我们不仅要重新思考现代成瘾科学,还要重新审视古老关于克制的智慧。数千年来,我们一直将节制视为一种道德上的成就。**亚里士多德 (Aristotle)**认为,通往美好生活的道路在于节制。勇气介于胆怯与鲁莽之间,慷慨介于吝啬与奢侈之间。他经常被引用的一句话是:“离开生活,最好就像离开宴席一样,既不醉,也不渴。”

Original English

Dhruv Khullar: But now GLP-1s are forcing us to reconsider not just the modern science of addiction, but ancient wisdom about restraint. For thousands of years, we have seen moderation as a moral achievement. Aristotle argued that the path to a life well-lived runs through moderation. Courage rests somewhere between cowardice and recklessness, generosity between stinginess and extravagance. He's often quoted as saying "It is best to rise from life as though from a banquet. Neither drunken nor thirsty."

Dhruv Khullar: 好吧,亚里士多德可从来没有吃过多力多滋 (Dorito)。他没有甜甜圈 (Krispy Kreme) 或麦当劳。他没法刷 TikTok 和 Instagram——当时没有通过算法来蚕食他注意力的产品,古希腊也没有受到芬太尼和羟考酮的困扰。我们今天的社会,对于许多人来说,根本性问题已经从匮乏与无聊转变为过剩与分心。我们的技术似乎专门被设计用来利用我们最脆弱的本能。而现在的核心问题是,如何让我们的大脑、身体和所处的环境回归到更自然的平衡状态

Original English

Dhruv Khullar: Well, Aristotle never had a Dorito. He didn't have Krispy Kreme or McDonald's. He couldn’t flip open TikTok and Instagram -- there weren't algorithms that were fracking his attention, and ancient Greece was not beset by fentanyl and oxycodone. We have a society today in which the fundamental problem for many people has shifted from scarcity and boredom to excess and distraction. Our technology often seems purpose-built to tap into our most basic vulnerabilities. And the question now is how to bring our minds and our bodies and our environments into a more natural balance.

走向健康的医学工具

Dhruv Khullar: GLP-1 药物表明,亚里士多德所说的节制不仅是一种美德,它也是一种生理状态。这不仅关乎性格,更关乎生物学。这并不是在暗示我们应当以某种方式放弃为建立一个更健康的社会而奋斗,也不是说我们不应该进行艰苦的文化和政治努力来创造一个更好的世界,去解决成瘾和其他社会问题的根源——比如孤独与创伤、痛苦与贫困、以及剥削。但这确实表明,我们应该欢迎一个充满希望的新工具加入我们的工具箱。

Original English

Dhruv Khullar: GLP-1s. They suggest that Aristotle’s moderation is not just a virtue, it is a physiological state. It isn't just about character. It is about biology. And none of this is to suggest that we should somehow give up on the struggle to bring about a more healthful society, that we shouldn't do the hard cultural and political work to bring about a better world in which we can address the drivers of addiction and other social problems, things like loneliness and trauma, pain and poverty, exploitation. But it does suggest that we should welcome a promising new tool into our toolkit.

Dhruv Khullar: 在过去的岁月里,我照顾过许多在成瘾夺走他们一切的时刻里的患者。比如那位术后使用阿片类药物转为海洛因成瘾的年轻女性,她最终因心脏感染失去了生命。还有那位因数十年的酗酒导致肝功能衰竭的父亲,在器官移植等待名单上慢慢走向死亡。每天早晨我走进他的病房,都会看到他那六岁和八岁的孩子。他们会问我,他们的爸爸什么时候能回家。这是我经历过最艰难的对话。

Original English

Dhruv Khullar: Now over the years, I have cared for many patients in the moments when an addiction has taken almost everything from them. The young woman whose post-surgery opioid use turned into a heroin addiction and then into the heart infection that took her life. The father, whose liver failed after decades of alcohol use, who was slowly dying on a transplant list. Every morning I entered his room and was greeted by his children, aged six and eight. And they would ask me when their dad could go home. Those were some of the hardest conversations I have ever had.

Dhruv Khullar: 在最近几个月里,我反复想起玛丽告诉我的一些话。她说,GLP-1 药物不仅能让她克服眼前戒酒的冲动,更能实现她重新塑造自我的深层渴望——改变她的习惯、她的关系,甚至改变她对自我的认知。她获得了一种与欲望共存、而不是被欲望所主宰的自由。“因为酒精不再是一个问题,”她告诉我,“我终于有机会去思考,我想要过一种怎样的生活?”而这是一个每个人都配拥有的发问机会。谢谢大家。(掌声)

Original English

Dhruv Khullar: In recent months, I have returned again and again to something that Mary told me. She said that GLP-1s enabled her to act not just on her immediate desire to stop drinking, but on her deeper desire to reinvent the person she wanted to be, to change her habits, her relationships, even how she saw herself. She gained a kind of freedom to live alongside her desires instead of being ruled by them. "Because alcohol was no longer an issue," she told me, "I finally had the chance to think, what type of life do I want?" And that is a question that every person deserves a chance to ask. Thank you. (Applause)

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产品/模型: Ozempic

关键字: glp-1 ozempic addiction-treatment neuroscience moderation