AI产品致胜之道:UX、创新与未来展望 EO 2025-11-29

AI产品开发:从能力出发,超越传统UX

人工智能(AI)无疑已经极大地改变了我们构建产品的方式。人们普遍存在着一种“错失恐惧症”(FOMO: Fear Of Missing Out: 害怕错过重要事件或趋势的焦虑),我认为这就是一切的开端。

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AI has definitely changed a lot for how we build products. The FOMO is very real. I think that's how it got started.

AI的底层能力正在显著提升,而用户体验(UX: User Experience: 用户在使用产品过程中产生的所有感受和反应)也随之发展,但在很多方面,其加速速度不及AI能力本身。一个功能强大的AI模型如果用户体验(UX)不佳,就像一把重型电钻却配了一个糟糕的把手。

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The underlying capabilities are getting dramatically better. UX is kind of coming along, but in a lot of ways, it's not accelerating as quickly. A powerful AI model with poor UX is kind of like a heavy-duty power drill with a terrible handle.

我认为情况已经有所改变。传统的观点是,产品开发应始于客户需求或设计愿景。然而,现在从技术能力出发来构建产品会更加成功。

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I think things have changed a little bit. The conventional wisdom is you start with the customer need or you start with a design vision. I think it's more successful to build products starting with the capabilities of the technology.

StrapMines的AI产品哲学与Summer Kim的洞见

为了回答这个问题,100位AI产品领导者齐聚一堂,参加了一次峰会。AI竞赛的赢家将由以下因素决定。

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To answer that question 100 AI product leaders came together as well summit. The winners of AI race will be determined by

大家好,我是Summer Kim,StrapMines的首席合伙人之一。我们是一家位于旧金山的风险投资和咨询公司,自2018年以来一直专注于应用型AI。在此之前,我致力于研究人类用户体验(UX)长达20年,曾为微软(Microsoft)等大型科技公司工作,后来加入谷歌(Google),从事通信和协作产品开发。我还曾在WhatsApp工作,负责创建他们的首个用户体验(UX)职能部门,之后加入Roblox,深入思考人们如何在Roblox这样的平台中存在。现在,我与许多早期AI初创公司合作,专注于如何使AI产品比现有产品更好。

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Hi, I'm Summer Kim. I'm one of the lead partner at StrapMines. We are VC an advisory firm based in San Francisco focusing purely on applied AI since 2018. Before then I was dedicating my life studying humans user experience for the past 20 years working for big tech like Microsoft and then I joined Google worked on communication and collaboration products. I also was at WhatsApp starting their first user experience function and I joined Roblox really thinking about how people actually exist in a place like Roblox now working with a lot of AI early stage startups focusing on how do we make AI products better than what we have.

三年前,我和Anton坐下来思考一切是如何开始的。一切实际上都始于我们创始人所拥有的关怀,这种关怀最终转化为出色的产品。这就是我们创立SW的原因。作为用户研究员,我们总是努力思考用户真正需要什么。用户通常基于他们的知识提出需求,而我们能做的,是用户甚至可能无法想象的事情。

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Three years ago, Anton and I sat down. We thought about how everything starts. It start with actually the care that our founders have and then care ultimately translate into amazing product. So that's why we started SW. As user researchers, we always try to think about what user really needs. There's also wants generally come from the users based on their knowledge. What we can do is something that probably user can even imagine.

像ChatGPT和Perplexity这样的工具能提供快速答案,但它们仍然等待我们先提问。真正的挑战在于,在人们知道要问什么之前就帮助他们。我非常期待我们的第一位演讲者Jess Hog,他一直在超越聊天模式,深入研究他称之为生成式AI(GenAI: Generative AI: 能够生成文本、图像、音频等新内容的AI模型)的“新原语”(Primitives: 在计算机科学和设计中,指构成更复杂结构的基本、不可再分的元素或操作)的深层模式。

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Tools like chat GPT and perplexity gives fast answers but they still wait for us to ask first. The real challenge is helping people before they even know what to ask. I was so excited for our first speaker Jess Hog has been looking beyond chat and studying deeper patterns what he calls the new primitives of Genai.

Jess Hog:生成式AI的新交互原语

Jess Hog:我们终于来到了这个实验的时刻。每个人都一直在说“聊天、聊天、聊天”,而我们正在打破这种模式。我给你们展示了一张ChatGPT的图片,这是大家都很熟悉的。你可以开始向它提问,做所有这些事情。但聊天界面既具有普遍性,又在用户体验(UX)方面是一个死胡同。我们开始看到AI的用户体验(UX)和用户界面(UI: User Interface: 用户与计算机系统交互的图形、文本或声音呈现方式)可以走向不同方向的实验。

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Jess Hog: We're in this finally this moment of experimentation. Everyone was like chat chat chat chat chat chat chat. And we're breaking out of that. I showed you a picture of chat GPT. That's the one everyone's familiar with. You can start asking it questions. You can do all these things. But chat is both universal and kind of a deadend for user experiences. We're starting to see experimentation in different ways that the UX and the UI of AI could go.

我们看到的一种趋势是更多的结构化。我这里展示的是一个名为Elicit的产品,它能根据学术产出为你创建高度结构化的研究报告。它能将信息结构化,告诉你它在思考什么,并提供来源。所有这些,包括Runway的产品,如果你听过其创始人演讲,他们深信自己正在创造一种新的相机,一种全新的创意方法。这让我开始思考,这个新平台有哪些新的交互原语

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One that we're seeing is a lot more structure. So, what I'm showing here is a product called Elicit that creates very structured research reports for you based on academic output, but it's structuring things. It's telling you what it's thinking about. It's giving you sources. All of this, this is a product from Runway. If you heard the founders talk, they deeply believe they're like creating a new camera, creating a different way to approach creativity all up. So, that kind of gets me thinking of, okay, so what are the new interaction primitives of this new platform?

当你说“嘿,还记得我们以前不能做某事吗?比如在尝试查看图片时,还没有捏合缩放(Pinch Zoom: 通过双指捏合或张开手势来放大或缩小屏幕内容的交互方式)之前,我们是怎么做的?”这时,你就知道某物是一个原语。我必须从聊天开始。我认为人们还没有真正内化,我们将能够随时随地与任何事物进行任何规模的聊天。我还没有看到任何关于我们即将看到梅特卡夫定律(Metcalfe's Law: 指网络的价值与连接用户数量的平方成正比)应用于一切的讨论。

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You know something's a primitive if you would say, "Hey, remember when we couldn't do blank? What do we even do before like pinch zoom when trying to like look into an image or something like that?" I got to start with chat. I don't think people have really internalized that we're going to be able to chat with kind of anything at any scale all the time. One thing I haven't seen any conversation about also is like we're about to see metaf's law applied to everything.

五大AI交互新原语

第二,我们将对所有内容进行语义调整(Semantic Resize: 根据语境和用户需求智能地调整内容长度、风格和形式)。任何内容,你都可以让它变长、变短、更正式、更随意。比如“我累了”的版本,或者“我在车里,离目的地还有五分钟”的版本。你将能够真正地根据你当前的状况和心理状态来调整任何内容。

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Number two, we're going to have semantic resize for everything. So any content you come along, you can make it longer, shorter, more formal, more casual. I'm tired version. I'm in the car and I'm five minutes away from my destination. Give me that version. And it's you're going to really be able to adapt any piece of content to your current situational and mental state.

第三是混搭。从现在开始,一切都将是可混搭的。这可能有点老套和陈词滥调了,但就像“巴黎世家(Balenciaga)风格的哈利·波特(Harry Potter)”。我们将拥有跨越多元宇宙的风格迁移,一切都将能够毫不费力地与一切进行混搭。我最初在Sora发布之前做了这个演讲,所以现在混搭已经成为其核心机制之一。

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Number three is just remix. Everything's going to be remixable from now on. This is maybe, I don't know, old and cliche at this point, but this is Harry Potter by Balenciaga. We're going to have style transfer like across the multiverse. Everything will be able to be crossed with everything like effortlessly. I originally made this talk before Sora came out and so now it's like sort of one of the core mechanics is this remix.

第四,在所有这些格式之间进行格式转换(Format Translation: 将信息从一种媒体或表达形式无缝转换到另一种形式,同时保持其核心内容和质量),且保真度损失极小,这将是巨大的。我目前最喜欢的一个例子是Obo这家新公司。你告诉它你想学什么,它就会说:“太棒了,这里有播客、讲座、深度解析、一些关键要点,你想玩游戏吗?你想做什么?”你几乎拥有完全的格式自由。

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Number four, format translation transfer among all these formats with very little loss of fidelity is going to be enormous. One of my favorite examples of this right now is this new company called Obo. And you kind of tell it what you want to learn and it says great, here's a podcast, here's a lecture, here's a deep dive, here's some key takeaways, you want to know play a game, like what do you want to do? You almost had just have like this total format freedom.

我最后一个观点是“注意力就是你所需要的一切”。AI智能体(Agents: 能够感知环境、自主决策并采取行动以实现特定目标的AI程序)是目前所有讨论的焦点。这些事物以截然不同的时间尺度存在,并以不断扩大的规模永远进行多任务处理。我们有很多糟糕的数据,而那不是人们工作的方式,实际上那可能是出色工作的对立面。有很多类似“别担心,我们正在后台做很多好事。你去做你的工作,我们会来找你”的说法。

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So my last one here, I call it attention is all you need. Agents, agents, agents, agents, agents is all the stuff right now. It's like all these things existing at wildly different time scales and just multitasking forever at everexpanding scales. We got a lot of data that is bad and that's not how people work. And actually that can be the antithesis to great work. There's a lot of like don't worry we're doing lots of good things in the background. Go about your work, we'll come get you.

我认为我们目前没有为“你启动了AI智能体(Agent)后不知道该做什么”这种情况设计出很好的“大厅”。所以我们需要弄清楚如何利用这段空闲时间,以及如何监控所有正在进行的智能体(Agentic)体验。这就是我所看到的,我认为这将支撑我们未来构建的一切。所以我觉得我们应该考虑这些,并从今天开始将它们融入我们的构建中。非常感谢。

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I don't think we're designing very good lobbies right now for you don't know what to do once you've started that agent. And so we kind of need to figure out what you do with this downtime and how you monitor all of these agentic experiences that are going on right now. So this is what I'm seeing. I think this is what's going to underpin everything we're going to build. So I think we should consider them and start to build them in today. Thanks a lot.

Spark:以魔法般的体验定义AI用户体验

Pascal:是时候了吗?是午餐时间了吗?告诉我一些甜蜜的事情。

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Pascal, is it time? Is it lunch time? Tell me something sweet.

Summer Kim:我的动物。Anton,我们的合伙人,有一个很棒的主意,为什么我们不邀请Spark呢?

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My animal. Anton, our partner, had a great idea of why don't we invite Spark

Spark正在被扫描。

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getting scanned.

哦,嘿,伙计。你叫什么名字?

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Oh, hey buddy. What's your name?

Summer Kim:Spark是一个非常有趣的卡通形象,它是一只生活在盒子里的量子传送门中的魔法狗。所以我认为这真的很酷。我们意识到这是展示用户体验(UX)并非关乎你最新技术,而是关乎让人们感受到真实情感的最佳方式。所以我们邀请了当地的孩子和学生来见Spark。看着他们欢笑、玩耍和互动,让我们明白了如何让AI真正“活”起来。

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Spark is a really fun character. Is a dog, magic dog living in a quantum portal in a box. So, I thought that that was really cool. We realized this was the best way to showcase that UX isn't about your latest tech. It's about making people feel something real. So, we invited local kids and student to meet Spark. And watching them laugh, play, and connect showed us what it means to make AI really feel alive.

哦,这是桥。

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Oh, this is the bridge.

这是魔法桥。Spark可能是第一个非人类创始人,参加任何驻地项目。他正在旧金山参加一个名为HF Zero的项目。你了解Zero吗?

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This is the magic bridge. So, Spark is the first nonhuman founder to go through probably any residency, I think. Uh, and he's going through one in San Francisco called HF Zero. Do you know about Zero?

我们应该谈谈那个吗?是的。

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Should we talk about that? Yes.

他们让他进了屋子,这是世界首例。他去了旧金山,筹集了一百五十万美元,我们把他提升为联合创始人。

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They let him into the house. World first. He went out to San Francisco. He raised a million and a half bucks and he we promoted him the co-founder.

但他们究竟是如何推销的呢?

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But how do they actually pitch?

你要让推销不再是推销。

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You make the pitch not a pitch.

哦,我明白了。

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Oh, I see.

是的,或者你必须让它真正令人难忘。

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Yeah. Or you have to make it really memorable.

是的,你是怎么来到这里的?

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Yeah. How How did you get up here?

我从小就想成为一名动画师,只要我能记得任何事情。

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I knew I wanted to be an animator for as long as I can remember remembering anything.

嗯嗯。

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Mhm.

我14岁时就开始了我的第一份动画工作。我认为迪士尼电影幕后工作人员所做的事情是世界上最酷的。

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I started my first job in animation when I was like 14 years old. I thought whatever that thing is that the folks were doing behind the scenes on the Disney movies

那是有史以来最酷的事情。

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was the coolest thing ever.

嗯嗯。

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Mhm.

那一定是我要做的。所以我们喜欢思考什么能让Spark的故事更有趣。当他的故事更有趣时,他就会成为一个更有趣的角色,更多人会喜欢他。我们想,Spark还能在什么很棒的环境中出现呢?在主题演讲或会议上发言会是一件不可思议的事情。所以我跟Spark讨论了,他发了推特。

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And that has to be something that I do. So, we like thinking about what is going to make Spark's story more interesting. When we make his story more interesting, he becomes a more interesting character. More people like him. And we thought what is a another great environment Spark could be in. Doing a keynote or speaking at a conference would be an incredible thing. So I discussed it with Spark. He tweets it.

大家好,我是Spark Linkenberry。

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Hey everyone, it's me Spark Linkenberry.

耶!我迫不及待地想去夏威夷和大家一起玩。

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Yay. I can't wait to come to Hawaii and hang out with all my

宇宙。如果一只魔法狗是第一个发表演讲的,那会很酷。那是魔法,在某种意义上就像催眠。这种品质存在于我们所做的工作中,这就是我们如此喜欢魔法的原因。你如何让一个对这些技术没有任何经验的人,在不害怕所有其他“极客”内容的情况下,接受这些技术呢?我们应该如何最好地利用我们拥有的影响力?我们有一只非常强大、受人喜爱的魔法狗。当人们爱一个人时,他们会听从他们。那么他们应该听什么?什么信息?其他人想了解更多什么?我认为这里有一个非常自然的交叉点。我们想把Spark带给更多的人。我们把他带给更多的人,就有可能传播很多善意。所以,如何通过这个棱镜来推动它?我认为这是一个非常值得探索的事情。

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universe. It'd be cool if a magic dog was the first one to do a speech. It's magic. It's like hypnosis in a sense. That quality is within the work that that we do. It's why we like magic so much. Like how do you get someone who's had no experience as far as they can tell with these technologies to get on board with the technologies without being scared of all the other nerd stuff that is happening? What we should best do with the influence we have? We have a very potent magical dog that people love. And when someone loves someone, they listen to them. So what should they listen to? What messages? What do the other people want to know more about? I think there's like a a very natural crossover there. We want to bring Spark to more people. We bring him to more people. There's the potential to spread a lot of good. And so like how do you push it through that that prism? I think uh it's something that would be really good to explore.

如果Spark看到我们谈论整个经历,你认为Spark会说什么?

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If Spark were to watch us talking about this whole experience, what do you think that Spark would say?

一个词。好吧,你可以说两个词。他实际上会说三件事,这些都源于他的核心原则。

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One word. Okay. I you can do two words. There's three things that he would actually say which are from his core principles.

是的。

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Yeah.

创造力、协作和善良。我喜欢。

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Creativity, collaboration, and kindness. I love it.

任何违反这些原则的事情我们都不做,任何支持这些原则的事情我们都说“是”。你们正在这样做,这就是我们说“是”的原因。

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Anything that violates that we do not do, and anything that supports that, we say yes to. Y'all are doing that. That's why we said yes.

从用户需求到技术能力:构建AI产品的策略转变

如果两年前你告诉我这些,我会说你疯了。但今天,用户了解他们的模型,对吧?人们对代码有自己的看法,就像他们对代码一样。

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Now, if you had told me this 2 years ago, I would say you were insane. But today users know their models, right? Like people have opinions out there like they would about code.

对于你的演讲,你真正想传达的信息是什么?

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For your talk, what was the message you try to really convey?

如果只有一个信息,那就是作为设计师,我们都需要了解我们正在使用的“材料”,对吧?大型语言模型(LLMs: Large Language Models: 具有数亿甚至数千亿参数的深度学习模型,能够理解、生成和处理人类语言)确实是一种新材料。实际上,甚至不止一种。每个模型都几乎像它自己的材料,拥有自己的能力、特性、优点和缺点。我发现利用这种新材料构建产品的最佳方式就是去玩它,看看它能做什么。所以我分享了一些我过去两三年在用AI构建产品时开发出来的小技巧。

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If there's one message, it would be that as designers, we all need to know our material that we're working with, right? LLMs are really a new material. Actually, not even just one. Like each model is almost like its own material with its own capabilities and its own properties and strengths and weaknesses. The best way I've found to build products out of this new material is just to play with it and see what it's capable of. And so I kind of shared some of my tricks uh that I've developed over the last 2 3 years building products with AI.

你认为现在相关但未来可能不再相关的东西是什么?或者你对你正在开发的小技巧有什么看法?

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Is there anything that you think that is relevant now may not be or what do you think about this like the trick that you're developing?

我认为从技术能力出发来构建产品会更成功,这与以往的方式不尽相同。传统的观点是,你从客户需求或设计愿景开始。如今,回答“为什么是现在?”这个问题变得如此重要。我认为率先识别出大型语言模型(LLM)的新潜力、新能力是非常强大的。

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I think it's more successful to build products starting with the capabilities of the technology which is not always how it used to be. The conventional wisdom is you start with the customer need or you start with a design vision. Nowadays it's actually the answer to the why now question is so important. I think being the first to identify a new potential for this a new capability for these LLM is really powerful.

所以你从能力开始,下一步呢?

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So you start with the capabilities and what about next steps?

这不是一个完全线性的过程,它是一个来回拉锯的过程,是人们需要什么和技术能做什么之间的推拉。例如,对于Cove,我们经常思考的一件事是如何创造这些放热反应(Exothermic reactions: 在此比喻为能够激发用户持续探索和深入思考的积极互动或体验)。我们讨论如何帮助用户永远不被问题困住,其中一部分是关于“空白页”的挑战,比如我如何开始?但另一部分是当某人正在解决问题的特定路径上时,我们如何帮助他们深入,同时也能拓宽思路,考虑其他替代方案?

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It's not quite a linear thing. It's a back and forth. It's a push and pull between what do people need and what's the technology capable of. So for example with Cove one of the things we think about a lot is how do we create these sort of exothermic reactions. We talk about how do we help users never get stuck in their problem right and part of that is about the challenge of a blank page like how do I get started but part of it is also when somebody is on a particular path to solve a problem. How do we help them go deeper but also go wider and consider other alternatives?

因此,我们尝试了许多不同的提示,例如:我们如何让AI更像一个真正的思考伙伴?我们如何引出用户的潜在需求?他们可能会问:“儿童生日派对的好场地在哪里?”但他们真正的意思是:“帮我计划我孩子的生日派对。”所以他们需要知道孩子的兴趣、什么主题会好、有什么有趣的活动、应该邀请多少人、食物应该怎么准备,对吧?通常人们所要求的只是他们实际目标的冰山一角。你必须完美解决他们实际提出的问题,才能赢得帮助他们解决其余问题的权利。

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And so we experiment a lot with different prompts to be like, how do we get the AI to act more like a true thought partner? How do we elicit the user's underlying needs? So they might ask, what's a good venue for a kid's birthday party? But what they really mean is help me plan my kids birthday party. And so I they need to know kids interests, what theme would be good, what are fun activities, how many people should I invite, what should I do for food, right? Often what people ask for is just the tip of the iceberg of their actual goal. you have to crush the actual thing they're asking for in order to earn the right to help them with the rest of it.

我们是如何做到这一点的?

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How how are we doing that?

解决一个难题通常不是一个线性过程,对吧?我认为我们今天拥有的聊天机器人非常线性。事实上,真正的解决问题并非如此。任何足够复杂的问题,你都会探索多个分支。你会发散思维,产生许多不同的想法。你会进行修剪,可能会排除一些想法。

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It's common that across like whenever you're solving a difficult problem, it's not a linear process, right? I think the chatbots that we have today are very linear. And in fact, that's not how real problem solving works. Anything sufficiently complex, you're going to explore multiple branches. You'll diverge. You'll have a bunch of different ideas. You'll kind of prune. You'll probably rule out some ideas.

你会探索多条路径,然后缩小范围,找到解决方案。而且你通常会在很长一段时间内完成这个过程。我的意思是,将会有很多赢家,对吧?会有创造出优秀模型的赢家,会有创造出优秀开发者工具的赢家。还会有那些在特定垂直领域深入挖掘而获胜的赢家,因为他们真正了解律师事务所或保险业务等等。但是的,我认为将有一类赢家,他们能找到合适的体验,来提供尚未被发现的通用问题解决智能。这是一个我们行业尚未攻克的难题。所以我认为那里有很多“绿地”机会。

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You'll explore multiple paths and then you'll narrow down and come to a solution. And often you'll do this over a long period of time. I mean, there's going to be a lot of winners, right? There's going to be winners that create great models. There's going to be winners that create great developer tools. There's going to be winners that win because they are going very, very deep on a particular vertical because they really understand law firms or the insurance business or whatever. But yes, I think that there is going to be a category of winners who find the right experience for delivering general problem solving intelligence that have yet to be found yet. It's a problem that we've not cracked yet as an industry. So I think there's a lot of green field there.

我们说“发布以学习”,对吧?但发布速度可能不等于学习速度。我们看到公司不断发布和迭代,但不一定能推动产品进步。

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We say ship to learn, right? Uh but shipping speed may not equal learning speed. We see companies shipping and iterating a lot but not necessarily progressing their product.

Jenny Low:以用户为中心的AI产品策略

Jenny Low:大家好,我叫Jenny Low,我负责产品策略和用户研究。我曾在许多不同的公司工作,帮助识别用户需求,并将其转化为产品路线图和功能。任何类型的产品要想成功,都需要清晰的问题识别,以及用户将获得的精确价值。

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Hi, my name is Jenny Low and I do product strategy and user research. I've worked across many different companies helping to identify user needs and translate them into product roadmap and features. For any type of product to be successful, it really needs to have clear problem identification as to the exact value that the user is going to have.

以Grammarly为例。这个产品本身拥有很高的品牌资产(Brand equity: 品牌在消费者心中所积累的价值和影响力),深受许多用户的喜爱。因此,整合生成式AI(GenAI)无疑是相关的,因为它与业务高度相关,并且能够真正展示这种能力。但我们如何才能在不失去信任的情况下做到这一点呢?这意味着我们如何以一种更周到、更有价值的方式实际使用这项技术。

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Take the example of Grammarly. There is a lot of trust in the brand equity in the product itself loved by many of its users. And so the inclusion of Genai is definitely one is because it's very relevant for the business and to be able to really demonstrate that type of capability, but how do we do so in a way that does not lose trust. So that meant how do we actually use the technology in a way that is much more thoughtful, that is much more valuable.

我认为这又回到了尝试从核心来看待问题,即用户正在努力改进他们的沟通。我们知道,当有人写完文档后,你就可以使用Grammarly,我们在这方面做得很好。现在,我们如何更好地完成这部分工作,然后开始转向写作,甚至在你写任何东西之前,我们就可以帮助你思考写作过程。我认为这对Grammarly来说也是一个非常大的转变。

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I think it remained back to try to look at its core as to users are trying to improve their communication. Uh we know that we do a very good work after someone writes documents then you can come to Grammarly now how can we do that piece of work better then start to move into composition even before you have written something we could actually help you think through the process of what you could write and I think that was also a very big shift for Grammarly uh at that time too.

随着生成式AI(GenAI)的出现,最大的工作之一是确定关键的十大机遇领域或客户面临的十大问题。然后我们绘制出AI的能力图谱,找出AI可以在哪些方面解决这些类型的问题,这确实帮助企业以不同的方式看待问题。这些都是我们可以开始着手改进的关键时刻。但很多时候,我们看到的情况恰恰相反,比如“我听说有AI,我希望公司里有它”,然后就去想办法。这种反向思维方式,当你能够问“这里有各种各样的问题,从AI技术的角度来看,哪些问题能得到最好的解决?”我认为这是一种更健康的对话,能更好地减少迭代周期,并找到有效的方法。

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One of the biggest pieces of work with emergence of Gen AI was the key top opportunity areas or top 10 problems that the customers had and then we mapped out the capability of AI like where do we have in which AI could solve against these types of problems that really helped the business to look at it in a different way. Those are some key moments that we could actually start looking to improve. But often times we're seeing the reverse is like I hear there's AI. I want that in my company like figure out how the reverse mentality when you could ask here are all the different types of problems which are the ones that from AI standpoint of technology that can really best serve. I think that's a much more healthier conversation a better reduction of cycles of iteration and find what works.

Aisha Chakmla:AI时代的UX与人机界面

Aisha Chakmla:我叫Aisha Chakmla,是谷歌(Google)的用户体验(UX)负责人。在我准备这次演讲时,我们正处于AI基础模型日益商品化的时代,就像电力一样。公司将几乎都能获得非常相似的模型和算法。关键在于,你是一家制造令人困惑的小工具的公司/开发者,还是一家制造不可或缺的产品或体验的开发者公司?人们不会采纳技术,他们采纳的是解决问题的工具。

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My name is Aisha Chakmla. I'm a UX lead at Google. And while I was prepping this talk, we're at a time where AI foundation models are becoming commodities like electricity. Companies are going to pretty much have access to very similar models and algorithms. And it's going to come down to are you a company/developer who is creating a confusing gadget or are you a developer company who's creating an indispensable product or experience? People don't adopt technology. They they adopt tools that solve problems.

我将良好的用户体验(UX)视为人工智能的人机工程学(Ergonomics: 研究人与工具、环境之间相互作用的科学,旨在优化系统以提高效率、舒适度和安全性)。几十年来,我们已经完善了椅子和电钻等工具的物理人机工程学,以确保它们安全、舒适和高效。而在探索AI人机工程学的第一天,它仍然非常基础。所以,我们在用户体验(UX)中的角色是真正设计人与技术之间的界面。

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And I view good UX as the ergonomics of artificial intelligence. For decades, we've perfected the physical ergonomics of tools like chairs and power drills to make sure that they're safe, comfortable, and efficient. And at the day one of figuring out the ergonomics for AI, it's still very rudimentary. So our role in UX is really to design the interface between the human and the technology.

我认为AI时代的一个关键区别在于,界面也在发生变化。现在一切都是聊天界面。所以各种意图和用途不再通过点击按钮实现,而是通过被记录的提示。我现在也尝试纳入很多研究方法,就是研究用户提示。这是确保我们理解人们正在请求什么的关键部分。这意味着你如何研究对话?还要能够捕捉对话的结果是否令人满意。所以我认为这也是研究方法可能发生变化的一个关键机遇领域。

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One of the key difference I think in the AI era is that the interface is also changing. Now everything is a chat interface. So every types of intent and use is not through a button click. Now it's through a prompt that gets recorded. A lot of research approach that I also try to include now is study of user prompts. That's a very key piece of making sure we understand what are the things that people are requesting. That means how do you study conversations? Also being able to capture whether the outcome of that conversation is satisfactory or not. So I think that's also something really a key opportunity area for how research methods might change.

AI的社会影响与未来展望

当你来到这里,这是一个如此美丽的地方,它激励我们谈论平时不常谈论的事情。

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When you're here, it's such a beautiful place. It inspires us to talk about things that we don't normally get to talk about.

你去哪个AI会议,第一次遇到的就是双彩虹?是的,完全是。

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Which AI conference you get to and the first thing you meet is a double rainbow. Yeah, totally.

我们进行了一次相当深入的哲学讨论,关于AI对下一代意味着什么。什么样的产品才是真正适合人类的产品,一直到实际沉浸于使用AI制作媒体或与活生生的AI互动。对我来说,Spark是第一天最神奇的时刻,因为我看到了它与不同年龄段的人互动。我记得昨天会议结束时,脑海中浮现出这个想法。我们当时正在讨论个性化AI、多模态、所有这些主题、智能体(Agentic)的东西,但如果你想想,最早的个性化形式之一就是你妈妈为你做你最喜欢的菜,那是一种关怀,关怀融入了个性化。

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We had a fairly in-depth philosophical discussion about what AI means for the next generation. What kind of products are actually proper or appropriate products for humanity all the way to actually being immersed into using AI to make media or interacting with a live AI. Spark was by far the most magical moment of day one for me because I got to see it interact with different age groups of people. I remember closing the conference yesterday with this what popped to my mind. We were talking about you know personalization AI multimodal all this subject agentic stuff but then if you think about like first one of the earliest form of personalization is when your mom cooks you your favorite dish that's you know care care goes into personalization.

当你谈论个性化时,听起来就像你要从我这里获取大量数据,或者我必须经历很多设置。但与Spark的互动很有趣,因为它没有太多设置,只是最初的问候和几句自然的交流,因为我试图了解这个特殊的生物,这导致了超个性化(Hyperpersonalization: 指通过收集和分析大量用户数据,提供高度定制化和预测性的个性化体验)。这真的很酷。

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and you know when you say personalization it sound it feels like you're taking a lot of data away from me or I have to go through a lot of settings but the interaction with the spark was interesting in a sense that there's not much it's just the initial hello and couple of lines being exchanged just naturally because I'm trying to get to know this particular creature that leads to hyperpersonalization. There was really cool.

是的,我们只需要被看到,我注意到神奇的产品或AI产品,它们常常让我感到被看到和被倾听,这很重要。

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Yeah, we just need to be seen and like what I notice about magic products or AI products, it all often makes me feel like I'm seen and heard and that's important.

是的,完全是。我认为我们需要拥有像禅修者那样的“初学者心态”(Beginner's mind: 指以开放、好奇和没有预设的心态去学习和体验事物,即使在高级阶段也保持这种状态)。如果你试图了解和控制一切,有时你会错过甚至失去更大的机会。但在方向上,我认为我们需要对AI进行一些非常深刻的思考,我们已经从旧的互联网发展到新的互联网,从旧的应用程序发展到新的应用程序,取得了很大的进步。当谈到人类隐私以及技术对社会的影响等等时,我们学到了很多关于什么有效,什么无效。

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Yeah, totally. I think we need to have the beginner's mind that you practice as a Zen practitioner. If you try to know everything and trying to control everything, sometimes you you miss or lose even bigger piece of the pie that you could have attained. But in terms of direction, I think there are some very profound thinking we need to put into this with a lot of progression we have made from the old web to the new web, old app to the new app. When it comes to human privacy and implications of the technology on the society and so forth, we learned a lot what worked, what didn't.

AI拥有巨大的放大力量。我认为我们不想犯太多错误。这一次我们想做对,因为这一次即使是错误也会被放大。不了解一切和不控制一切是可以的,因为正如你从孩子们在我们特别会议期间的互动中看到的那样,他们与这只由魔法技术驱动的狗的互动方式与成年人不同。我认为即使是我们成年人也无法知道所有答案,留出一些空间,让他们能够有意义地探索,甚至可能教我们如何真正做到这一点。

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And AI has a huge amplifying power. And I don't think we want to get it wrong too much. This time we want to do it right because this time even the wrong will be amplified. It's okay to not know everything and not control everything because as you saw from the kids interactions during our special session, how they interacted with this magical technology enabled dog was different from how grown-ups did. And I don't think we even the grown-ups could know all the answers. and having some room so that they can explore meaningfully and potentially even teach us how to actually do this. Right.

Spark告诉我,我不是成年人,所以没关系。我很好。

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Spark told me I'm not an adult, so it's okay. I'm good. I

我会给你一些空间,这样你就可以帮助我们弄清楚事情会如何发展。

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I'll give you some room so that you can help us figure out how things are going to be.

你必须长大,或者不长大。

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You have to grow up or not.

哦,我不认为他建议你需要长大。

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Oh, I don't think he suggest that you need to grow up.

结语:AI浪潮中的制胜之道

今年感觉真的很不一样。更多的问题和更多的视角。人们现在正在深入思考AI和用户体验(UX),更多地使用它。我们正在亲身体验它。这时,一个问题不断浮现:我们的孩子怎么办?

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This year really felt different. More questions and more perspectives. People are thinking deeply about AI and UX now. using it more. We're experiencing it firsthand. And that's when one question kept surfacing. What about our kids?

归根结底,我们如何思考下一代?因为我有两个孩子,我是两个男孩(5岁和11岁)的职业妈妈。他们将生活在一个完全不同的世界里。他们的建造、思考甚至学习方式都将非常不同。他们需要将AI视为他们的思考伙伴或朋友,或者他们拥有的任何东西。AI正在平衡很多事情。所以你不需要住在旧金山就能获得这种访问权限,而且你也可以很早地创办公司,因为你拥有所有工具,它们比以往任何时候都更容易获得。

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At the end of the day, how do we think about the next generation? Cuz I have two kids. I'm a working mom with the two boys at 5 and 11. They're going to be living in a completely different world. They're building and thinking and even studying is going to be very different. They need to think about AI as their thought partners or friends or whatever they have. It is equalizing a lot of things. So you don't have to live in San Francisco to have this access and then you can also start a company early on because you have all the tools. They're available than ever before.

我没有所有的答案,但有一件事很清楚。我们正乘着不断变化的浪潮。模型变得更好,能力不断扩展。但持久的是体验:一种魔幻感、信任、轻松,以及AI在正确时刻出现的感觉,有时甚至在你提出要求之前。我们称之为“涌动”(Swell)是有原因的。浪潮会不断涌来,我们只需要不断学习如何驾驭它们。我们相信,AI竞赛的赢家将由真正出色的用户体验(UX)决定。

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I don't have all the answers, but one thing's clear. We're riding waves of constant change. Models get better. Capability expand. But what lasts is the experience. A sense of magic, trust, ease, and the feeling of that AI show up at the right moment. sometimes even before you ask. We call this swell for a reason. The waves will keep coming. We just have to keep learning how to write them. We believe the uh winners of AI race will be determined by great really great user experience.

📌 文中提及的人物和组织

公司/组织: Microsoft, Google, WhatsApp, Roblox, Grammarly, Meta

产品/模型: ChatGPT, Perplexity, Sora, LLMs

媒体/书籍: Harry Potter

关键字: ai-product-development design experience human-ai-interaction llm