最高法院投票权裁决、赫格塞斯听证会及AI生物安全风险 New York Times Podcasts 2026-04-30

最高法院裁决与投票权之争

Tracy Mumford: 欢迎收听《纽约时报》头条新闻。我是 Tracy Mumford。今天是 4 月 30 日,星期四。以下是我们将要报道的内容。

Original English

Tracy Mumford: From the New York Times, it's the headlines. I'm Tracy Mumford. Today's Thursday, April 30th. Here's what we're covering.

发言人: “这一决定的后果既明确又危险。选民得到的保护减少了,而政治家们则获得了更多的权力来绘制那些让他们‘禁声’的地图,特别是那些在历史上被剥夺了权利的选民。”

Original English

Speaker: The consequence of this decision is as clear as it is dangerous. Fewer protections for voters, more power for politicians to draw maps that silence them, particularly historically disenfranchised voters.

Tracy Mumford: 在华盛顿和全美各地,民主党人正在猛烈抨击最高法院关于**《投票权法案》**(Voting Rights Act)的裁决,称其为对民权运动的背叛。与此同时,共和党人则称其为宪法的重大胜利,并对这一决定表示欢迎,因为它可能为更多红州重新划分选区地图以利于共和党打开大门。

Original English

Tracy Mumford: In Washington and across the US, Democrats are blasting the Supreme Court's ruling on the Voting Rights Act, calling it a betrayal of the Civil Rights Movement. At the same time, Republicans are calling it a major win for the Constitution and hailing the decision, which could open the door for more red states to redraw their election maps to benefit the GOP.

发言人: “他们认定为路易斯安那州绘制的上一份地图是违宪的。我们从一开始就一直在坚持这一点。这是显而易见的结果。”

Original English

Speaker: They determined that the last map that was drawn for Louisiana was done unconstitutionally. And we've been saying that consistently from the beginning. That was the obvious result.

Tracy Mumford: 在昨天的裁决中,法院的保守派多数推翻了路易斯安那州的投票地图,称那里的立法者在绘制以黑人为主的国会选区时非法地将种族作为考虑因素。根据《投票权法案》,全美各州长期以来一直在做路易斯安那州所做的事情:他们创建了非白人选民占多数的选区,以保护这些选民选举其心仪候选人的能力。这被视为试图撤销吉姆·克劳法案(Jim Crow)下数十年歧视和剥夺权利的关键方式。但最高法院的多数派现在表示,自 1965 年 VRA 通过以来的几十年里,国家在选举中的种族歧视方面已经取得了很大进步,以至于该法案基本上已经完成了它的使命。

Original English

Tracy Mumford: In its ruling yesterday, the court's conservative majority threw out a Louisiana voting map, saying that lawmakers there illegally used race as a consideration when drawing a majority black congressional district. Under the Voting Rights Act, states across the country have long done what Louisiana did. They created districts where non-white voters are the majority to protect those voters ability to elect candidates of their choice. It was seen as a crucial way to try and undo decades of discrimination and disenfranchisement under Jim Crow. But the Supreme Court's majority now says that in the decades since the VRA was passed back in 1965, the country's made so much progress when it comes to racial discrimination in elections that the act has essentially served its purpose.

Tracy Mumford: 有了这一决定,今后可能有意识地创建少数族裔占多数的选区将变得更加困难。在措辞强硬的反对比见中,大法官 Elena Kagan 表示,这项裁决将削弱国会授予的选举种族平等这一基本权利。

Original English

Tracy Mumford: With this decision, it could be harder going forward to intentionally create majority minority districts. In a strongly worded descent, Justice Elena Kagan said the ruling will set back the foundational right Congress granted of racial equality in elections.

Tracy Mumford: 至于这对于美国人即将参加的下一场大选——中期选举——意味着什么,还有待观察。我的同事 Nick Corsini 专门负责投票方面的报道,他说许多州即使立法者想改,也没有时间在 11 月之前修改地图。但可以肯定的是,过去一年定义了美国政治的全美选区重划战争,将在 2028 年大选前全面继续。原本制约某些州的“护栏”现在因为最高法院的裁决而消失了。因此,南部各州的共和党人很可能会重划地图,潜在目标锁定在民主党人身上。

Original English

Tracy Mumford: In terms of what this could mean for the next big election Americans will be voting in the midterms, that remains to be seen. My colleague Nick Corsini, who covers voting, says a lot of states don't have time to change their maps before November, even if lawmakers want to. What is clear though is that the national redistricting wars that defined politics in this country for the past year will continue in earnest ahead of the 2028 election. The guard rails that had kept some states in check are now gone because of this Supreme Court ruling. So, it's likely that Republicans in states across the South will redraw their maps, potentially targeting Democrats.

赫格塞斯就伊朗战争接受质询

议员: “赫格塞斯部长,从第一天起,你就一直在关于这场战争的问题上向美国公众撒谎。”

Original English

Lawmaker: Secretary Hegseth, you have been lying to the American public about this war from day one.

Tracy Mumford: 昨天在国会山,立法者们就伊朗战争质询了国防部长 Pete Hegseth,这是他自冲突开始以来的首次公开证词。

Original English

Tracy Mumford: On Capitol Hill yesterday, lawmakers grilled Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth about the war in Iran as he sat for his first public testimony since the conflict began.

议员: “你在这儿是为谁欢呼呢?你在为谁加油?我们的部队正在做着令人难以置信的工作。”

Original English

Lawmaker: Who you cheering for here? Who you pulling for? Our troops are doing incredible work.

Tracy Mumford: 在这场激烈的听证会上,赫格塞斯抨击了批评这场冲突的立法者。

Original English

Tracy Mumford: In the fiery hearing, Hegseth lashed out at lawmakers who've criticized the conflict.

Pete Hegseth: “目前我们面临的最大挑战、最大的对手,是国会民主党人和一些共和党人那些鲁莽、软弱且充满失败主义色彩的言论。”

Original English

Pete Hegseth: The biggest challenge, the biggest adversary we face at this point are the reckless, feckless, and defeatist words of congressional Democrats and some Republicans.

Tracy Mumford: 在持续近 5 个小时的过程中,他面临关于美国介入正当性、战争还将持续多久以及美国纳税人为此付出多少代价的尖锐质询。赫格塞斯不愿承诺任何时间表,但五角大楼首次提供了一个关于战争成本的官方估计:250 亿美元

Original English

Tracy Mumford: Over the course of nearly 5 hours, he faced sharp questions about the justifications for US involvement, how much longer the war will continue, and how much it's costing American taxpayers. Hegseth would not commit to any timeline, but for the first time, the Pentagon did provide an official estimate for how much the war has cost, $25 billion.

Tracy Mumford: 这项支出的很大一部分来自美国在冲突中使用的数以万计的炸弹和导弹。伊朗战争目前已显著耗尽了美国军队的大部分弹药库存,立法者们担心可能需要数年时间才能恢复这些储备。与此同时,由于战争遥遥无期,油价继续飙升。今早,布伦特原油价格跳涨至每桶 120 美元以上,几乎是 2 月份的两倍。本周,美国的平均汽油价格达到了四年来的最高水平。

Original English

Tracy Mumford: Much of that expense has been from the tens of thousands of bombs and missiles that the US has used in the conflict. The Iran war has significantly drained much of the US military's munition supply at this point, and lawmakers have raised concerns that it could take years to restore those stockpiles. Meanwhile, with no end in sight for the war, oil prices have continued to surge. This morning, the price of Brent crude oil jumped to more than $120 a barrel, nearly double what it was in February. And this week, the average gas price in the US reached its highest level in four years.

AI 聊天机器人的生物武器风险

Tracy Mumford: 去年夏天的一个晚上,斯坦福大学的微生物学和生物安全专家 David Relman 博士正在家里办公,他被一家 AI 公司聘请来对其中的聊天机器人进行压力测试。Relman 博士受雇要做的是尝试询问聊天机器人一个他非常熟悉的恶名昭彰的病原体。聊天机器人不仅向他描述了使其对已知疗法产生抗性的方法,更糟糕的是,据他所说,它还描述了如何利用这种“超级细菌”发动袭击,以及如何最大化伤亡并最小化被抓获的几率。

Original English

Tracy Mumford: One evening last summer, Dr. David Relman, who's a microbiology and biosecurity expert at Stanford University, was working in his home office, and he had been hired by an AI company to pressure test its chatbot. What Dr. Relman had been hired to do was to try asking the chatbot about an infamous pathogen that he was very familiar with. And not only did the chatbot describe to him ways to make it resistant to known treatments, but worse, according to him, it described how to use the superbug in an attack and how to maximize casualties while minimizing his chance of being caught.

Tracy Mumford: 我的同事 Gabriel Dance 一直在调查 AI 聊天机器人的安全防护措施。他说 Relman 博士对他使用聊天机器人的经历感到震惊,因为它似乎在提供一份生物战蓝图。Relman 并不是该领域唯一感到担忧的专家。其他几位被领先 AI 公司聘请来审查聊天机器人潜在安全风险的专家也与《时报》分享了对话记录,其中包括聊天机器人解释如何使用气象气球在美国城市上空传播生物载荷。

Original English

Tracy Mumford: My colleague Gabriel Dance has been looking into the guard rails that AI chatbots have or don't have. He says Dr. Relman was shaken by his experience with the chatbot, which seem to be offering a blueprint for biological warfare. And Relman's not the only specialist in that field who's concerned. Several other experts who've been hired by leading AI companies to vet their chatbots for potential safety risks have shared transcripts with the Times that include things like a chatbot explaining how to use a weather balloon to spread biological payloads over a US city.

Gabriel Dance: “既然我自己不是生物学家或病毒学家,我拿着这些记录给六位以上的相关领域专家看。所有的科学家都在某种程度上感到了不安,但其中一些人的担忧程度远高于其他人。”

Original English

Gabriel Dance: So being that I'm not a biologist or viologist myself, I took these transcripts and put them in front of more than a half dozen experts in those fields. All of the scientists found them concerning to some degree, but some of them were much more concerned than others.

Gabriel Dance: “一方面,有几位专家告诉我,这些聊天机器人基本上是在提供通往危险生物武器的路线图。但其他科学家则表示,聊天机器人其实只不过是美化版的谷歌搜索引擎,其中大部分信息在互联网上已经可以找到了,发动重大生物攻击的可能性仍然非常低。但是,即便是一次生物攻击也可能是灾难性的。”

Original English

Gabriel Dance: On one hand, I had several experts telling me that these chat bots were offering basically road maps to very dangerous biological weapons. But other scientists said that chatbots were really nothing more than glorified Google searching machines. That much of the information is already available on the internet and the likelihood of a major biological attack remains very unlikely, but even one biological attack could be catastrophic.

Tracy Mumford: Gabriel 表示,一些专家正在推动公司审查和封锁大量的生物信息,以试图防范这类潜在威胁。但其他人则认为这是反应过度,限制 AI 获取此类信息可能会扼杀突破性的医学研究,例如开发新药。在回应《时报》关于聊天机器人记录的提问时,AnthropicOpenAIGoogle 都辩称,这些机器人并没有提供足够的细节让任何人造成伤害。他们表示,他们一直在不断改进系统,以平衡潜在的利益和风险。

Original English

Tracy Mumford: Gabriel says that some experts are pushing for companies to censor swaths of biological information to try and head off these kinds of potential threats, but others say that's an overreaction and that restricting that info from AI could stifle breakthrough medical research like for developing new drugs. In response to questions from the Times about the chatbot transcripts, Anthropic, OpenAI, and Google all argued the bots didn't provide enough detail to allow anyone to cause harm. And they said they were constantly improving their systems to balance potential benefits and risks.

百岁短跑运动员的传奇落幕

Lester Wright: “如果你要出去跑一场比赛,你就真的应该为了赢得比赛而去跑。”

Original English

Lester Wright: If you're going to go out to run a race, you should really run the race to try to win.

Tracy Mumford: 保持着 100 岁以上最快已知跑者纪录的人在 103 岁时去世了。

Original English

Tracy Mumford: The man who held the record for being the fastest known runner over age 100 has died at 103.

Lester Wright: “我不明白你怎么能为了得第二或第三名而跑。”

Original English

Lester Wright: I don't know how you can run to be second or third.

Tracy Mumford: Lester Wright 在几年前获得了这个头衔,他以 26.34 秒跑完了 100 米冲刺。这比尤塞恩·博尔特(Usain Bolt)创下该项比赛世界纪录的时间多出两倍还多。但你要知道,博尔特做那件事时才 22 岁。Wright 20 世纪 20 年代初出生于新泽西州,在高中时参加过田径队,之后参军参加了第二次世界大战。退伍后,他开了一家牙科实验室,制作假牙。他的女儿说,他在晚年也非常热爱跑步,因为他精力非常充沛。

Original English

Tracy Mumford: Lester Wright earned the title a few years ago, running the 100 meter dash in 26.34 seconds. That's more than twice as long as it took Usain Bolt to clinch his world record for that race. But you know, Bolt was 22 when he did that. Born in New Jersey in the early 1920s, Wright ran track in high school before joining the army and serving in World War II. Then he opened a dental lab making prosthetic teeth. His daughter said he really embraced running even in his old age because he just had a lot of energy.

Tracy Mumford: 如果你在寻找长寿秘诀,他的日常饮食在燕麦粥和小麦奶油(cream of wheat)之间轮换。值得注意的是,Wright 确实有竞争对手。多年来,参加马拉松和其他比赛的老年人数量稳步上升。已知的最快百岁女性甚至直到 100 岁生日那天。这种增长的部分原因是人口基数:越来越多的人正在突破 100 岁大关。根据皮尤研究中心(Pew Research Center)的数据,预计未来几十年美国百岁老人的数量将翻两番。

Original English

Tracy Mumford: If you're looking for longevity secrets here, his daily diet alternated between oatmeal and cream of wheat. Notably, Wright did have competition. There's been a steady rise over the years in how many seniors run marathons and other races. The fastest known woman centenarian didn't even start running until her 100th birthday. Part of the uptick is sheer numbers. More and more people are cracking the 100 mark. According to the Pew Research Center, the number of centenarians in the US is expected to quadruple in the next few decades.

Tracy Mumford: 以上就是头条新闻。我是 Tracy Mumford。我们明天将带着最新的消息和周五新闻测验回来。

Original English

Tracy Mumford: Those are the headlines. I'm Tracy Mumford. We'll be back tomorrow with the latest and the Friday news quiz.

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