Host: Spencer Pratt, welcome to the All-In podcast.

Spencer Pratt: Thank you for having me.

Host: You had an unbelievable debate performance the other night. I have so many friends that were texting and people obviously were tweeting about it. Let's start with that. How are you feeling after the debate?

Spencer Pratt: I just wish it had been like 2 hours or 3 hours because the list of their failures that we didn't even get to touch on, it's unbelievable. So, it was the most fun I've had in years because what people don't realize is they're pathological liars. So when somebody gets to be on the stage with only facts and the truth, that's why there's this incredible response to because everybody that always watches these lying politicians, they know they're lying and nobody gets to yell, "They're lying." But it was very hard to be respectful because all the lovely Democrat moms that love me, that want to keep supporting me, they asked me to please stay calm, cool, and collected. So the whole time I was doing my best behavior to not interrupt the lying, which if I hadn't been tasked with that mission, I would have been like, "Liar, liar."

Host: A lot of people said they weren't expecting such a great performance. Like you were so well prepped, so well verssed on a lot of the facts on the actions you were going to take. How did you get ready for the debate? Did you do work to get after this?

Spencer Pratt: Well, thankfully people argue with me all day long in every single media hit that I've done for months because they don't want me to get into the machine. So, every interview I do, unlike these politicians, it's opposition. It's arguing, arguing, arguing. When these, you know, Mayor Bass or Councilwoman Ramen talk to the media, they can just lie and then the media people go, "Oh, thank you. Thank you, Mayor Bass. Thank you, Councilman." If I say anything, I got to have who was there, what they were wearing, what they had for breakfast. I have to have my information so factbased and be bulletproof to beat this machine that it's I debate. All I do is debate people all day long.

Host: You're held to a higher standard.

Spencer Pratt: Exactly. Challenged all day and all I live in is facts and the truth. And so I called my lawyer who's representing me in the case against the city and the state and LAWP, one of the most famous lawyers in the world. I said I said, "Peter, how do you stay so calm when you're arguing with these liars?" And he said, "Spencer, I always have the truth." I was like, "Oo." I was like, "Okay, I got that." Good strategy.

Host: Yeah. So that was a great just message I took into that. Can we for people that don't know your story and I want to just give you a couple minutes to tell it. Let's go back to the fires. Where were you and where was your family, your wife, your kids? Where were you guys when these fires kicked off and how did you end up evacuating? And what was that evening like?

Spencer Pratt: Well, let's even rewind before the fires. It just shows you that our emergency situation is not the level it needs to be because I didn't even know that there was this crazy wind weather event. My son had had pneumonia. So, I was up every night checking his temperature and I'm on my phone a lot. I'm a phone person and I didn't even know that this was extra dangerous, dry weather. So, that just shows you if you rewind, we weren't even informed at the level you clearly we should have been. So, the morning of January 7th, I was doing my normal routine, making my espresso, about to dance to Taylor Swift, Look What You Made Me Do on Snapchat, which I've done since the Reputation album dropped. And all a sudden, I see our nanny running down the street. She's comes in with our 2-year-old at the time. She's like, "The workers up the street said there's a fire on the hill." Again, this is not crazy. Like, Mayor Bass's like, "We never knew, but we're well aware fires happen. There had just been the Getty fire that everyone ran out of their houses for."

Host: I grew up in LA.

Spencer Pratt: I've been through the fires. They've been going on for 30 years. I mean, three weeks before all my friends fought a fire in Malibu. episode. I was even planning on starting my own fire brigade like my friends had and I was talking to Heidi like we need to get a hose, we need to get a truck. And so I was well aware of fires no matter what anybody says. This isn't a shock. We also know about Santa Ana winds. So I run up the hill where we hike every day for the last nine years. And I see the smoke, you know, coming from like the Highlands area, which is where Loachman, which we now know the fire was really from seven days earlier and it had been smoldering for a week. And I see the smoke. I FaceTime my wife. I was like, "Yeah, maybe pack go down to my parents house just to be safe." Because my parents live in the Palisades. I grew up in the Palisades. It's the opposite side of where we are. We're at the top of the hill next to the state park there by the bluffs, next to the ocean. You would think that'd be safe. So she loads up just diapers, kids clothes, and goes to my mom's house. I stay up there, you know, facetiming every local, what's going on very confident because I assume I've been paying I don't have any money because all my money goes to taxes. So I assume all these tax money is firefighters are coming. Got to be going somewhere. It's going somewhere. You know, I was very naive. And I also live next door again in the debate when Mayor Bass was like he's lying or that's not true. There was only one reservoir that was empty. Ma'am, Mayor Bass, I live next to the one you don't know existed, the Palisades reservoir. 5 million gallons next door to my house that the fire department would do almost, not weekly, but bi-weekly drills. They would connect up there. They would make me move cars if they needed to to bring the hoses. I was always saying to my wife, "Well, this is annoying, but gosh, we're set. They have a thing where the helicopter could dip in there." not the San Andreas reservoir that she was referencing that she lied about and said was for drinking water which obviously if you Google LA Times will show you when it was made it was for wildfire protection that's why it has sistns that's why it has helicopter dip sites because it's for wildfire so I was very confident I have a video of myself filming can't wait till the helicopters get here not realizing that they drain that Janice Quinion the LA DWP drain that reservoir in June of 2024. I must have been out at Awan when they were emptying it or whatever. So I was very confident in 2025 in Pacific Palisades that pays probably almost what a quarter of the taxes for the whole city. I would guess at this point they are not letting the entire town burn to the ground. So I didn't pack anything. I didn't you know prepare for our house to burn down. I call the fire department directly because I have their number. I say, "Hey, we just see one truck up here cuz you know if the fire comes around, there's just into this one place of dead brush and if you put water on it, you know, it won't come and hit all these houses." And they said, "We have no assets available." I'm like, "Whoa, that was scary." So then my dad comes up, you know, and we got the hose and he's hosing a hillside and finally I'm like, "Dad, let's get out of here. You know, firefighters are probably coming."

Host: and your wife and kids are gone at this point.

Spencer Pratt: They're at my dad's house, which ends up now the fires come from Tesco Canyon and it's crossed over. So, my older sister calls like, "What are your kids doing there? They better get out of there." I'm like, "What is happening?" So, now I'm, you know, what? This is insane. It's like a bad movie.

Host: And I never heard any sirens.

Spencer Pratt: People like real locals will tell you if you talk to me, there was no sirens. Yeah. I've heard this from a lot of friends in the past. So that was the if I had heard sirens I would have like started packing things maybe stayed but you don't feel scared if you don't hear sirens. There's no sheriffs or LAPD or any emergency vehicles coming up on the street you know everybody get out of the you know like in a movie. There was no movie stuff and you know so you always think everything's like a movie but nothing was like a movie. So then I I stay till the fire comes down the hill at 5 6:00 at night. Again, when she was talking about this wind, Mayor Bass, I'm standing at the top of the palisades. I connect to the state park. There was no scary winds. It did not go past 40 miles per hour and it's now been, you know, even CBS did a great debunk post yesterday, CBS News, with a journalist that was up there that I was correct and I wasn't lying in the debate and there were planes flying.

Host: Yeah. It moved. It was windy, but it wasn't.

Spencer Pratt: So, I talked to the chief Bobby Garcia at the US Forest Service about what he thought went sideways the day of, you know, we don't know because the afteraction report has been edited multiple times by Mayor Bass, which she denies, but the LA Times stands by their reporting. And he said the initial fire wasn't made skinny. You're supposed to attack the fire on both sides. And that did not happen because, ready for this? You know what Mayor Bass brought up? like, "Oh, there was no planes, no mayor." Bass, you never called in fixed air wing support. She never did. You know why? She was in Africa. She was in Africa. And you know who was supposed to do it? Her deputy mayor, but he was on house arrest. So LA city never even called in fixed air wing support to drop water. Thankfully, LA County Calire showed up and the US Forest Service. But that's how out of the loop Mayor Bass was on this.

Host: So when did you find out your house was gone?

Spencer Pratt: I watched it burn on my first on my security cameras. I watched my son's bed burn in the shape of a heart, which is the most spiritual crazy like shape of a heart coming through the bottom of his bed. And then I watched each room until you're watching on the cameras on my phone in gridlock traffic on like where the 405 like where the 10 goes to the 405 that one ramp. I'm just stuck in traffic watching it. But thank God as I'm watching it, I can't reach my dad who I'm thinking is dying trying to save his house on the bluffs. And I'm calling 911. I've been trying to get these audio calls to just post the level and they say they don't have him. But I'm calling 911 to find out if my dad is okay, if he tripped, if So even though I'm watching my house burn down, I can't reach my dad. So that's taking away the material connection. I'm like, my dad cared more to me than my house burning. So I get on 911. They're like, "What's the address?" Like, "Oh, no emergency personnel can go there."

Host: So you're like losing your mind at that point.

Spencer Pratt: There's 12 ways to get to my parents house. So this idea that there's no emergency personnel and I'm telling them my dad could be burning up. So these 12 people that did burn alive, I know firsthand if one of their family members or relatives or neighbors was calling 911, they were told no emergency personnel can go help them. So, thank God my dad obviously lived and he got out and I was like, "Dad, could you get out?" He's like, "Yeah, it was I drove all you could drive anywhere." So, they didn't even brutal. So, in the aftermath, this hits you, must have hollowed you, wrecked you. How was the next couple of weeks kind of trying to put everything back together? And at what point were you like, man, I'm gonna try and figure this out? Like, was it an immediate call to action for you or was there a period of time there where you were trying to put everything together?

Spencer Pratt: So my wife and I when we were very successful in 2009, we spent millions of dollars on her pop music album with all the most famous music producers and writers in the world, but it was a it we didn't have the money to promote it. It just nobody ever heard it, but we did that. The 15-year anniversary of that album happened to be January 10th. The house burned down January 7th. So when I have zero money now because everything I ever put into was in this house for my sons. All everything I own was in this house. I'm like, "Oh my god, we have no money. We're done." I'm getting emails because January 10th is this anniversary date, 15 years of her album. So I go on TikTok Live and I say, "Anybody please, you know, I have no money right now. Our house just burned down. Please stream my wife's album, buy it, and thank God for Planet Earth getting behind me. I think maybe 12 countries, put it number one. Everyone streamed it. It was the first time an album from 15 years went to number one on Billboard charts. So, that was taking me out of the the dark trauma cuz I'm focusing on right away pivoting into like we're going to rebuild. And I was naive to think streaming music you could get a house back, you know? Thank god I did make like $150,000, but if this was 2006, we would have made millions of dollars. So, it took my mind off it. Obviously, my wife is trying to get our kids into new schools. She's not even connecting to this. This is so positive, honey. Everyone's supporting you. So, when that wears down and I realize, oh my god, this is not enough money to build anything. We're we were stuck with California Fair Plan because we were dropped by farmers after paying for eight years and we have no money to rebuild. And I start questioning like why did our house burn down? It shouldn't have burned down. And I call up my friend who I just was at a groomsman in his wedding and his dad had just fought Edison in the in the campfire maybe. I'm pretty sure it was campfire at Paradise and he beat Edison. So I call him I was like, "Can you represent me? I want to sue the city. I want to sue the state. I want to sue L.

Host: So you're a fighter. You go after it.

Spencer Pratt: I'm just done. Case case. Fast forward a little bit. 5,000 homes burnt. 7,000 structures. Yeah. 7,000 homes. Whatever it is. Why are you the guy that comes out of the fire and says, "I'm going to fight and I'm going to do something about it and I'm going to change it."

Spencer Pratt: Well, thankfully I had this experience of already being like a hated media personality. When you put yourself out there, especially when you're fighting machines like Gavin Newsome and his social team and they're calling you a conspiracy theory and the LA Times is calling you conspiracy theory because they're saying this is climate change. There's nothing that could happen. Well, guess what? The day of the debate, the judges overruled the appeal by the state and the city of LA. Guess why? Because of the negligence that caused the palace fire. It's moving forward. Discoveries open. So this idea that I was this conspiracy theory climate change wind guy that a normal person would have, oh my god, I'm being attacked by the governor of California on social media. Most people back down. You burn my house down. You burn my parents out.

Host: You've been through it. You've been in the public. You've been a fighter in public. You've got this character that allows you to kind of stand up. You you you have this capacity and you have a bit of a platform going into it.

Spencer Pratt: So it was on Yeah. And once I got the truth, all the LFD whistleblowers were coming to me telling me that they were told to leave the smoldering lockman fire on January 1st. They told me that Mayor Bass was fighting the battalion chief who's editing the all they're editing the afteraction report. Obstruction of justice. They're telling me that the chief fought her for that 17 million and warned her that Angelinos would not be safe. So I'm getting all this information so I don't feel like just this fringe social media voice. Man, I'm not crazy.

Host: So, you fast forward, the campaign's up and running now. You have

Spencer Pratt: Well, let's rewind. So, when I see that no one's running against her, I reach out to Rick Caruso. I call him. I say, "Are you going to run after Mayor Bass cuz she's going to guaranteed win June 2nd, 51%. Totally. And I cannot accept this as a human being at this point." And I call him and he says, "Go after Bass." Implying he's not going after Bass. And so, game on. No one else stepping up. He told you to do it. Yes. But I was already doing it. But if he was going to do it, obviously I wasn't going to go against Totally. Yeah. I was like, "Okay, are you going to do it?" And he said, "Go after."

Host: So, how's the campaign going after this debate this week? And I want to talk about the campaign ads because the ads have almost elevated you to what I am hearing from a lot of people is almost like a historic campaign. The ads are cutting through in a way that people have never seen before. Are those your ads or are they being produced by a third party and put out there?

Spencer Pratt: So, the ad that blew up crazy is when I showed Bass's house, Nitia Ramen's million-dollar mansion, multi-million dollar, and then my Airstream. That one broke every ad record in history. That is, if it has my name on it, it's legally mine. Anything like these incredible grassroots ads, but I don't put my name on it, it's legally not mine. So, there are people out there doing these ads, not in your campaign, correct? That are creating this movement. Correct. Because people feel the common sense. They feel the emote. Totally. It's connecting. I keep trying to tell everyone that, you know, they try to put me in a box. I didn't run for to be a political party. I didn't run to be a politician. I ran because I experienced what city leadership failure at the ultimate level is. That's why I stepped up. That's what cuts through. So the media and everyone wants to jump on and be like, "Oh, Spencer is our guy." No. I'm the citizen. I'm the angry taxpayer. You can be a Democrat and love me. You can be a Republican and love me. The only people that don't love me are communists and socialists and I don't want them to love me.

Host: You know, there was a saying from John Adams 1776 where he said, "Public virtue cannot exist in a nation without private virtue," implying that citizenship involves sacrificing your personal interest for the greater public good. And Thomas Jefferson also spoke at length about taking a turn providing civic duty. Everyone has a civic responsibility to support society at large, but if you're going to go into government, if you're going to go into politics, you do a tour of duty. It's not a career. It was never meant to be a career. And it's almost like the local, the state, and the national level. There's an entire industry of people that have built a career in politics. And then you come along, I would think Donald Trump's come along. He's almost like another one of these enigmas that came out that people it resonated with people that you're actually standing up and saying I'm the guy who's on the other side of the problem with all of this and this is why this needs to change. It seems to be creating a movement.

Spencer Pratt: Yeah. I feel like I connect more with Cenitis. This guy that was a farmer and I actually have Citus written down right now. I was I was I was going to mention I'm like oh it's too esoteric. Oh no. That's who I connect to because I'm like this guy went and fought this battle. They wanted to give him all the power and he's like no I want to go back to my family and I keep initially when I ran I would say I want to do my four years and then go back. I realize I need to do the eight years. Lock this in. Get LA the number one city in the world. Then I can go back to my family. So I'm prepared to do the eight. That's my tour of duty. And when people say, "Oh, this is your house, this airirst." I go, "No, that's my forward operating base because this is a battle against good and evil. They let seven people die in the street every day with our billions of tax dollars and they say they need no new beds." It's a drug problem. 90% of these people are drug addicts. We need to get these people mandatory treatment. Then we can get them beds and also they don't have to have a bed in on the west side or next to people's houses or in San Pedro and right next to schools. They can have beds in facilities that we built out. My friend Matt Hes has a incredible facility in Bentonville. He built for veterans. I've been talking with him where he has veterans come here. They have all these services. It's beautiful. I'm like, how do we build this incredible compound, beautiful possibilities? I guess in Italy, some billionaire did this for addicts. That's my vision where we have all this. Take care of people the right way. Exactly. All the services that you'll ever need in a beautiful setting, not in a cement brick building that looks like a prison. An addict when they're getting off drugs, they don't want to be in a 250 foot little cell, no service. We put them out in nature. We're spending $25 billion plus. We have enough money where it's actually cheaper to build the most incredible facility out in nature that bring these services that provide for these addicts. And you separate people. Everybody doesn't go in one building like they do right now. If you're a veteran, you go over here. Single mothers with their kids, families over here. Somebody who's just a hardened criminal drug addict, you go over here on this side of the hill. And we need to build this out. And we have the money. But guess who doesn't make money if I do that? than NOS's that are stealing all of our tax money to increase prom, giving these people pipes, giving them needles, giving them the Narcan, letting them OD 14 times a night.

Host: Let me just hit on the NGO point. What is the corruption there? Help people understand because a lot of people think this is like a MAGA talking point. I hear this thrown about all the time. People use MAGA as a term to dismiss when someone says something that is factually jarring to you. I've noticed this on like someone comes along and they point out something and it's like oh that's a MAGA talking point as a way of just dismissing it instead of actually listening to what the person is saying. Can we explain what goes on with these NOS's like how do NOS's create a system that the more we spend and in the last 10 years city of Los Angeles I think has increased homeless spending by 10x and the homeless population has doubled and clearly it's gotten a lot worse. Why is that relationship there and what's the role that the NOS's actually play in this? And I promise not to call you a MAGA guy for telling me.

Spencer Pratt: Well, first off, when you said homelessness 2x, homelessness 200x, the count for homelessness, the when Mayor Bass in the debate was like it's down 17% from like these are the most cooked numbers. Even the Rand Corporation says what they're saying is 30% increase. But they just drive around and they go 1 2 3 4 5 6. They're not going in under these encampments and bridges and bushes and unzipping these tents and going into the sewer. So we don't even know the count. But let me tell you my first experience with NOS's after the Palestund million raised. Every single person I talked to messaging me, no one's getting this money, no one's seeing a dollar. I go to Washington. I ask senators to investigate this. We open up the case. Now all a sudden fire aid puts out a legal letter to defend themselves in their own legal letter from the law firm. They say several several of these NOS's gave directly to fire victims. The list for the 100 million is 200 plus. Google sever several it's under 10. So even in their defense they're telling you and again I don't believe one of those 10 gave directly. The people that they said did like we gave gift cards. Who' you give gift cards to? I don't you don't think one fire victim they're messaging me all day long said hey I got a $500 gift card. So that's when I learned firsthand that these NGOs's will take and right in your face a hundred million and just steal it. So, back to it being a maggot thing. The person who really exposed the details to me is this incredible Democrat mom, Samantha from the Integrity Project. She made her own little charity nonprofit cuz she's now tapped out of her own money in her neighborhood in Westwood. Her and her husband, they're both lawyers. And this homeless housing went up on their block. It was senior citizens. They kic the senior citizens out and it's wineart. They I their audit is late. Let's just put it that way. They're making hundreds of millions of dollars. This is the best part. So, the building goes on the market for $11 million. 6 days later, the city with our tax money gives Weineart 29 million, $28 million to buy this same building that was $11 million. There's nobody to this day, years later, being housed in this. Weart has developers paying $750 a square foot. When I've talked to developers and contractors, this should be $250 a square foot. So, they make this money with these developer kickbacks. They have all these shell companies that, oh, this is our developer has nothing to do. Ready for one of my favorite parts with that $30 million. Who do you think owns that building in Westwood? Not the taxpayers. Wineart. So, they This is the Shelby house. I just went to San Pedro, right across the street from a school 600 feet away, right across this beautiful little nice with old people in this community. They're kicking senior citizens out of one in San Pedro and they're going to put hardened criminals. Same thing. This one's like $80 million. So what they do is they take our tax money, they take grants, they take fake federal and state grants, and they they cook up a little plan. Here's this. We're going to house 80 people. Yet they don't tell us that that's $700,000 a person. But everyone's making these people NGOs's get million-dollar salaries. The people below them get 500. Nobody's actually helping anyone cuz ready for this. There's no requirement to house people. And then in the state of California, this is the craziest part with the home key rules. The state won't give the city a lot of the money if you require the people to be off of drugs. If you say you can't do drugs in this housing, oh well then you can't get access to this money.

Host: That's unbelievable. And just to be clear, what an NGO is legally, it's a 501c3 organization. Anyone can set one up. Anyone can file the IRS form, create this entity. Once you've created the entity, you've legally created it. You've got an IRS form. Cost a couple hundred bucks to do it. Now, theoretically, someone who might want to be, I don't know, a crony or a thief, a criminal, as you might call them, whatever you want to call them, they can now use this entity that they've created to basically get access to all this money from governments that aren't necessarily keeping a good eye on the money. How do the politicians that are allowing it to happen or the bureaucrats in the government that are allowing that to happen, how do they benefit? Because why would they do this? Why would they let this money flow out to these NOS's in a way that's clearly not in the taxpayers's best interest?

Spencer Pratt: Well, you can go the conspiracy route or you can just go look at all these things we're doing. You So, there's two ways to look at it. They get to say, "Oh, we have this housing and this services." These people just bring them this easy out like they're trying to fix something while still looking good like, "Oh, that's this NGO. Oh, they oh, criminal. They got caught." So then you go conspiracy and you could say, well, are these people helping campaigns? Are they putting do they have packs? So there's money going are they helping? So that's more conspira that's fringe, but in just the sense it's an easy way out. Oh, we're we're solving this. We're working on this. Two ways you can look at it. I think they're all criminals. Thankfully, I've talked to the Justice Department sources and city officials are going to go down. They are complicit. Here's the here's the hard part about catching these people. They're literally taking money with poker chips, goods and services. Criminals are smart now. They're not just saying, "Zell me the money, right?" But from my sources, we are going to see actual city officials go down. Not quick enough because they got to frame these people up. But again, how does Spencer stop this when he's mayor? I've met with the criminal investigation team at the IRS six times. First week in office, you bring all of them in. We audit every NGO, every document that hasn't been shredded. Now, some people insiders at city hall have told me, you know, they're shredding these documents. I have more faith in the my criminal investigation team. They'll be able to figure out without the documents, even if they're shredded. But that's what's happening. They're shredding the documents.

Host: So, let me ask Karen Bass. A lot of people you would assume would feel like she failed the city with the fire. Why is she still able to stay in office? And why is she in the lead in the polls for running for mayor? Why are people still voting for her?

Spencer Pratt: She's the lowest in the history of the polls of an incumbent. So she has 20%. So 80% of LA do not believe that. So the polls are confusing. She's the worst record in the history of the city. So 80% of people do not think she's doing a good job. 20% is crazy bad. That's why Councilwoman Ramen jumped in the race one hour before the closing because she saw I was going to beat Mayor Bass and her DSA team. For people that don't know, Democratic Socialist America that she co-governs with as a as a city council member, they were like, "Get in. You can be the fake Democrat and Spencer will take out Bass and then you'll get in." She endorsed Mayor Bass two weeks before she jumped into the race. They worked together on all these things. Mayor Bass door knocked to get Councilwoman Ramen, who was about to lose her counciloman seat. She door knocked with her to get her in and backed her. though. Nobody backs Mayor Bass and any of the media that's trapped in this these lies, they are on. It's not Mayor Bass's fault. It was high winds. It's an unprecedented disaster. It's not true. It's precedent. We had the Bair fire. Mayor Bass was alive for We had the Mandaville Canyon fire Mayor Bass was alive for. Not unprecedented. So, the polls mean nothing. Everyone that's voting for me is not taking a spam call. First off, they're not talking to a stranger on the street cuz they already feel so unsafe. They're not letting a rando approach them. Period. So, you know, it's interesting. Both candidates, Ramen and Bass are I I don't know if Bass is selfdeclared socialist, but obviously she spent time with Castro's organization in Cuba. She So, she's a Vener Ramos brigade member. She spent 20 times going to Cuba. So when they say Spencer doesn't have any experience, look, he was a reality star in Swing. No, I wasn't training with terrorists that would later bomb the capital. That's who Mayor Bass is, who only denounced anything communist when they were trying to make her the vice president.

Host: One of the other stories about LA over the last decade or two, you know, I grew up here. I have a lot of friends who grew up in Hollywood in the industry and it's been gutted. There's no business in LA anymore. And that's a huge employer for so many Angelinos working in Hollywood and all of the ancillary supporting industries. Do we rebuild Hollywood in LA? Is Hollywood done because of AI and YouTube and independent production and studios don't matter anymore? No one does broadcast. What's the future of Hollywood? Is there a future for Hollywood in LA? And and what do you do about it?

Spencer Pratt: So when I was 20 years old, I sold the first the youngest ever sold the first reality show to Fox as the youngest executive producer ever. And I sold it to Peter Churn when he was the co-chair of News Corp. It was with David Foster who's actually hosting my fundraiser on Monday, full circle. Shout out David Foster, legend. But I called Peter Churn up a few weeks ago. I said, "Mr. Churn, PDC, how do I save LA? It's one of the smartest human beings on earth." He said, "Spencer, as mayor, you you're not going to be able to change the bigger picture of Hollywood. That's more governor, you know, uncap. What you can do to really bring back jobs, bring back Hollywood, is bring back independent filmmakers, independent production, independent artists. You prioritize the indies, you could have Hollywood booming in a tier that people didn't see coming. And all my friends who haven't given up, that are still, cuz I grew up in in LA. I went to Crossroads. All my friends are creators. They're artists. They're still fighting. They're not giving up. When I talk to them, they've all doubled down on the indie route. When I talk to them, they say, "This is what we need to hear. We want to make this work." And you you work with them. Mayor Bass brags about like, "Oh, now you can film at the Griffith Conservatory. Instead of 70,000, it's 30." No. When I'm mayor, I'm going to help you produce these freaking movies. We're going to get We're going to have whole blocks and we're going to use the restaurants to keep them alive and we're going to use the crews. We're going to eat out of there. We're going to use all the city resources to almost be in production with the Indies, but making money together. You know, not like a communist or socialist, but in bring the city enable, give them the support, get the rid of these fees, the clearance, make it easy. Right now, like I said in the debate, I talked to producers. If you want to film on the streets of LA, it's so unsafe. You got to pay gang members off to get We're gonna have it so safe that an indie crew can pop out with all their cameras and gear and not get stolen. So again, someone like Peter Churnin, I said, "Peter, when I'm mayor, can I keep calling you?" And he his exact quote, "I'm always here to make you smarter, Spencer."

Host: Fast forward eight years. You've been mayor for eight years. I'm going to give you It's a four-year term, right? Two two terms. You're sitting down with your sons and they're saying, "Dad, what did you do to save LA?" What do you tell them? Tell me about that journey in retrospect.

Spencer Pratt: I would say thank God people voted for laws sons and I enforced the laws that are there. I did what everyone did before the current leadership. So I keep telling people the experience I don't need to invent anything. I don't need to come up with this utopia of how a city works. You make a city safe and people will put money into it. They'll want to live here. Commerce comes back. Families will be able to go to parks and go to the beach and not live in fear. So to my sons again, I'm showing them you can fight evil. These people are evil that let every innocent person that pays their taxes feel unsafe on their streets that they pay taxes for. A lot of people don't have money to do things because they pay all their taxes like me and then the city and the government fails them. And whether your house burns down or you got a screaming drug addict in front of you, a naked drug addict in front of your kids causing trauma. There's people having literal drug addicts having sex on meth in front of kids. Parents are telling me they have to have their kids glued to an iPad in the backseat of their cars driving to them into school. Some parents don't have cars. In other communities, they have to walk under these underpasses and walk past this. So, I'll be able to tell my sons, "Thank God America have laws." and your dad said, "Hey, breaking news. Let's enforce them." And we did it and it worked. And then people came in with tons of money and we got businesses booming, more jobs. Hollywood, we're making even better movies than we've made in 10 years because the independent creative artists are inspired again. They're feeling supported. It's it's the vision is so real. And that's my fight. I go back to if God is burning somebody's house down to fight these people, you're burning my house down and then you burn my mom's house down and you have me listening to my crying mom every day for 18 months. I don't do this to be a politician. I do this to fight evil and this is evil that has taken this beautiful city that I loved. I didn't even want to travel to go visit my wife's family in Colorado because I'm like, can they come to LA? That's how much I'm a LA person. These people that I'm running against aren't even LA people.

Host: Spencer Pratt, thank you for joining me on the All-In interview.

Spencer Pratt: Thank you. What a blast. Thank you. I'm going all in. I'm going all in.