市场动态:英伟达中国销售、Netflix收购战、美联储降息预期与AI前沿 Amit Kukreja 2025-12-09

市场开盘与主持人健康更新

大家早上好,欢迎回到《市场开盘》节目。

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Good morning everybody. Welcome back to another episode of the market open.

我们正在直播,今天是12月9日星期二,我很高兴能回到节目中。

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We are live. It is Tuesday, December 9th, and I'm happy to be back on the show.

首先,感谢大家的到来。

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Thank you everybody for being here. First of all,

我很抱歉昨天错过了市场开盘和收盘节目,周日的未来节目也错过了。

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I am sorry I missed yesterday for the market open and the close. Also missed Sunday for the future show.

我生病了,但不是那种需要去医院、服用抗生素或者有严重感染的病。

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I got sick, but not like sick to the point where I had to go to the hospital and like get antibiotics or there's like some big infection or anything.

我只是得了感冒,喉咙痛、咳嗽、打喷嚏。

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I just got a cold and it was one of those colds where your throat is hurting. You're coughing. You're sneezing.

在整个直播过程中,你们会听到我经常吸鼻子。

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You're going to hear me sniffle a lot throughout the stream.

我一直带着一条毛巾,因为我的状况仍然不太好。

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I got a towel here with me the whole time because it's still not the best.

昨晚我只睡了大约三个小时,凌晨一点睡,四点醒。

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I got like three hours of sleep last night. Slept at 1:00, woke up at 4.

我从四点半就醒了,昨晚就是睡不着。

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I've been up since 4:30. Like I just could not sleep last night.

但这不是那种需要去医院的病。

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But it's not like I need to go to the hospital or anything like that.

所以,我只是不想说话。

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So it's one of those things where I just forget talking.

昨天我甚至无法看屏幕,因为光线会影响我的眼睛。

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Yesterday I couldn't even like look at a screen because just like the light was affecting my eyes.

昨天一团糟,周六晚上我就感觉到了。

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It was just it was a mess yesterday and it kind of you know I felt it Saturday night.

我想周六发生的事情是,我在外面寒冷中散步,我不知道这是否是生病的具体方式,但我当时没有戴围巾。

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I think what happened on Saturday I was walking outside in the cold and know I don't know if this is technically how it happens but I don't think I was really wearing a scarf.

我的脖子对这些东西比较敏感,然后我就感冒了。

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So my my my neck is kind of sensitive to this stuff. And then boom I ended up just getting a cold.

所以事情就是这样发生的,周六晚上我感觉到了。

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And so that's that's kind of how it played out. I felt it Saturday night.

周日醒来时,我感觉不太好。

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Sunday I woke up. I was like this doesn't feel the best.

我想:“好吧,我跳过未来节目,周一早上我会好的。”

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I was like, "All right, let me skip the future show. Monday morning, I'll be okay."

然后周一早上醒来,我说:“不可能,这不可能发生。”

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Then Monday morning, I woke up. I was like, "There's no way. There's no way this is happening."

所以,我们回来了。

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So, we are back.

我不认为这有什么太严重的问题。

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I don't think it's anything too serious.

如果很严重,我就无法直播了。

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If it was serious, I wouldn't be able to be streaming live.

我的最高体温是97.5华氏度(约36.4摄氏度),所以,你知道,我甚至没有超过90华氏度,也没有接近99华氏度。

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I mean, the most my fever was was 97.5. So, it's like, you know, I I never even got above a 90. I didn't even get close to a 99 on the the fever scale.

所以我想我应该没事,很高兴能回来。

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So, I think I should be okay and I'm happy to be back.

尽管如此,我们昨晚确实安排了一场与说唱歌手24K Golden的直播。

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But nonetheless, we did have a stream scheduled for last night with a rapper 24K Golden.

向他和所有昨晚观看直播的人致敬。

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Shout out to him and shout out to anyone who watched the stream last night.

我真的不想取消那场直播。

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I really didn't want to cancel that stream.

我原定周六或周日晚上去他的演唱会,但因为生病错过了。

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I was supposed to go to his concert on Saturday. I missed or Sunday night. I missed the concert because of being sick.

所以,我知道很多人会说:“你昨晚看起来没那么病啊。”

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And then so I know a lot of you guys are like, "You didn't seem too sick last night."

那是因为我服用了Nyquil(一种感冒药)和Tylenol(泰诺:一种止痛药)来确保我能完成那场直播,因为这样的机会不多。

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It's because I like drugged up on Nyquil and Tylenol to make sure I could do that stream because like there's not too many opportunities.

那场直播已经安排了一个月,我真的不想取消,因为睡了大约10个小时后,我足够好地完成了那场直播。

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That stream was scheduled for about a month and I really didn't want to cancel that because I was good enough to do that stream by the end of the day after sleeping for like 10 hours and so that's why we were able to do it.

但是的,没有发烧,没什么太疯狂的。

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But yeah, no fever, nothing too crazy.

如果情况很糟,我会告诉你们的,但当时的状况是,即使在屏幕前讲话五小时也说不通。

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If it was anything that bad, I would have told you guys, but it was enough to the point where even trying to talk in front of a screen for five hours wouldn't have would have made sense.

但我们回来了,我很高兴能在这里。

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But we are back. I'm happy to be here.

感谢大家的到来。

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Thank everybody for being here.

我们有很多事情要谈,过去几天,特别是过去24小时发生了很多事情。

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We got a lot to talk about. Tons of stuff that happened over the past couple of days, definitely over the past 24 hours.

Netflix的这个故事简直太疯狂了,它的曲折离奇令人难以置信。

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This Netflix story is absolutely crazy. The amount of twists and turns that it has taken was wild.

所以,我们将讨论Netflix和Paramount之间发生的事情。

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So, we're going to talk about what's going on with Netflix and Paramount.

有关于英伟达及其在中国业务的更新。

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You've got Nvidia updates on Nvidia and China.

有些消息是利好的,但不足以真正推动股价上涨,尽管昨天股价确实上涨了。

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Some stuff that's bullish, but not necessarily bullish enough to get the stock really moving, although the stock was moving yesterday.

所以我们将讨论这些,并深入探讨我们将要谈论的就业数据,即ADP私人就业数据(Automatic Data Processing payrolls: 美国自动数据处理公司发布的私人部门就业数据)。

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So, we'll talk about that and we'll go deeper into we got jobs data that we'll talk about. private ADP payrolls.

微软今天早上宣布向印度人工智能基础设施投资170亿美元。

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Microsoft making a $17 billion investment into India for AI infrastructure as of this morning.

所以我们将讨论这个。

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So we'll be talking about that.

还有一些资本募集,Coreweave通过可转换票据(Convertible notes: 一种可以在未来转换为公司股权的债务工具)稀释了2.25亿美元。

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Uh bunch of different capital raises. So Coree 2.25 dilution in convertible notes.

他们将发行规模从20亿美元扩大到22.5亿美元。

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They have extended that offer from 2 billion to 2.25.

该股昨天下跌,但在盘前有所回升。

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That stock was down yesterday. It's recovering a little bit in the pre-markets.

总的来说,市场是下跌的。

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Um and overall markets are red.

现在,我认为市场下跌的最大原因,以及可能继续下跌的原因,是美联储会议。

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Now, the biggest reason they're red, I think, and probably the reason they're going to stay red, I mean, maybe we recover later in the in the day, S&P 500 right here. I mean, it's basically flat. It was worse about an hour ago. Right now, it's relatively okay. Uh, is we have the Fed meeting tomorrow.

标普500指数目前基本持平,一小时前情况更糟,现在相对还好。

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S&P 500 right here. I mean, it's basically flat. It was worse about an hour ago. Right now, it's relatively okay.

美联储会议是一个非常重要的事情。

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So, the Fed meeting is a big big deal.

联邦公开市场委员会(FOMC: Federal Open Market Committee: 美联储的货币政策制定机构)会议,我肯定想在FOMC会议前恢复过来,因为那将是一次非常非常重要的会议。

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FOMC that I definitely wanted to recover before the FOMC meeting because that is going to be a massive, massive meeting.

我们将看看我们是否最终能等到大家期待已久的降息(rate cut: 央行降低基准利率以刺激经济的货币政策)。

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We are going to see if we finally get this rate cut that we've all been waiting for.

如果它已经被市场消化,如果它没有被市场消化,市场会如何反应,以及一旦我们得到降息,12月剩余时间、2025年剩余时间的走势会如何。

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if it's priced in, if it's not priced in, how the market reacts to it, how the trajectory for the rest of December, rest of 2025 ends up going once we do get that rate cut,

目前降息的可能性是89%或87.2%。

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which right now the probabilities are at 89% or 87.2%.

所以仍有12.8%的几率不会降息。

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So, there's still a 12.8% chance we don't get it.

我认为这不太可能,但仍有这种可能性。

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I think it's unlikely, but there is a chance.

所以我们也将讨论其影响。

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And so, we'll talk about the implications of that as well.

此外,本周还有重要的财报。

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Also, we have big earnings this week.

今天收盘后,我们将像往常一样迎来“技术星期二”,但我们有GameStop的财报,这并不是什么大新闻。

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I mean, today after the bell, we'll have technical Tuesday as always, but we have GameStop, which is not that big of a deal.

明天有Oracle和Adobe的财报。

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Tomorrow you have Oracle and Adobe.

然后周四有Broadcom、Costco和Lululemon的财报。

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And then on Thursday you have Broadcom, Costco, and Lululemon.

所以周三、周四我们确实有很多财报要处理。

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So Wednesday, Thursday we actually have a decent chunk of earnings to go through.

我们将关注这些财报的表现,并在本周剩余时间里对它们进行一些预览。

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And we'll be looking at what those earnings look like and doing a little bit of a preview of those earnings as we get into the rest of the week.

英伟达(Nvidia)与中国芯片销售

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All right, let's get into it.

我想我们先从Netflix的新闻开始,但实际上,我们先谈谈英伟达。

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I think let's start off with this Netflix news. last night. Big deal coming out of actually, let's go to Nvidia before we do Netflix.

所以特朗普基本上说:“好吧,我同意了。”

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Um, so Trump basically said, "Okay, I'll bite."

英伟达获准向中国销售。

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And Nvidia is allowed to sell into China.

所以H200,这是英伟达2023年最好的芯片版本,现在已获准向中国客户销售。

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So H200s, which are the 2023 version of Nvidia's best chip, is now approved for customers in China.

这些芯片中每批25%的销售额将与政府分享,最初是15%。

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25% of each of those ships is going to be sold to or is going to have a revenue share with the government which originally was 15%.

所以特朗普将其提高到了25%。

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So Donnie T stepped it up to 25%.

他说英伟达的美国客户已经在使用他们令人难以置信的高度先进的Blackwell芯片和Ruben芯片,这两者都不属于这次交易的一部分,我的政府将始终把美国放在首位。

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He says Nvidia's US customers are already moving soon with their incredible highly advanced black belt chips and soon Ruben neither of which are part of the deal and my administration will always put America first.

这对英伟达来说非常重要。

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Now this was really important for Nvidia.

我们自财报发布以来首次触及190美元,这很重要,因为英伟达终于回到了正轨。

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We touched 190 for the first time since earnings, which was important to see because finally we got Nvidia back into the groove of things.

你知道,我认为英伟达现在至少应该远超200美元,或者至少接近200美元,考虑到我们看到的财报。

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And you know, I think Nvidia should be well over at least 200 right now or at least close to 200 just given the earnings that we saw.

英伟达未能回到190美元的原因是,中国方面今天早上表示:“嘿,我们想要这些芯片,但我们又不太想要这些芯片。”

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The reason Nvidia is not back at 190 is because the Chinese came out this morning and they said, "Hey, uh, well, we want the chips, but we don't really want the chips."

据《金融时报》引用的两位知情人士透露,北京的监管机构一直在讨论如何允许有限地获取英伟达的第二代人工智能芯片H200。

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So according to two people of knowledge of the matter as per the Financial Times, regulators in Beijing have been discussing ways to permit limited access to the H200, Nvidia's second best generation artificial intelligence chip.

本质上,监管机构正在权衡一种审批制度,即买家需要证明为什么本地芯片不足以满足需求。

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Uh essentially regulators are weighing an approval regime where buyers might justify why local chips are not enough.

也就是说,为什么华为的芯片不如H200好。

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So why the Huawei chips are not as good as the um H200's.

只有这样,你才能获得H200。

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And then and only then would you be able to get access to the H200s.

显然,中国,你知道这已经不是秘密了,他们很久以前就说过,他们想要Blackwell(英伟达下一代AI芯片),而且他们一直想要Blackwell。

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Obviously China and and you know this is not a secret. They've said this a while ago. They want Blackwell and they've been wanting Blackwell for a long time.

美国在这方面并没有真正让步。

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The United States has not really budged on that.

国务卿马可·卢比奥(Marco Rubio)对Blackwell芯片实际销售给其他国家的想法非常严格。

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Secretary of State Marco Rubio is being really stringent on the idea of Blackwell actually being sold to other uh countries.

所以,我认为这不会大规模地推动英伟达的营收增长,因为他们正在向中国销售。

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So, I mean, look, I I I don't think this is going to move the needle massively for Nvidia in the context of some amazing uh increase of revenue because they're selling to China.

然而,它将为英伟达带来一些营收,对我来说,这意味着这是一个利好。

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However, what it will do is get some revenue back for Nvidia, which to me means this is an upside.

我们已经知道英伟达基本上预计未来五个季度营收将达到5000亿美元,而且很可能在没有中国和中东市场的情况下也能超越这个数字。

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I mean, we already know that Nvidia is basically guiding for $500 billion of revenue, uh, which they're likely going to beat over the next five quarters without China and realistically without the Middle East.

我的意思是,他们只是将中东市场纳入了所有这些预测中。

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I mean, they're just factoring in the Middle East into all these projections.

英伟达目前上涨约0.4%。

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Nvidia, right? They're up about point4%.

如果他们能从中国获得任何一点收益,即使是几十亿美元,在明年不容易超越的营收数字上,这仍然是一个超越。

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If they get any bit from China, you know, even if it's a couple billion, a couple billion on revenue numbers that are not going to be easy to beat next year, at least from my perspective, it's going to be a beat.

可能不会像过去几个季度那样大幅超越和上调预期。

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It might not be a beat and raise to the magnitude that we've seen over the past couple quarters.

我的意思是,上个季度他们超出了40亿美元。

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I mean, last quarter they beat by four billion.

也许他们会超出10亿美元。

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Maybe they beat by a billion.

如果他们每个季度能额外获得20亿美元,一年可能就是80亿美元,你知道,这有助于他们继续超越预期。

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If they can get that extra two billion every quarter, maybe eight billion for the year, you know, that helps them continue to beat.

所以,我认为这对英伟达来说总体上是积极的,但市场需要真正看看中国是否愿意像他们想要销售或购买英伟达芯片那样多。

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So that I think is a net net positive for Nvidia, but the street's going to have to really see if China is going to be willing to sell as much as they want to sell or buy as much as they want to buy from Nvidia.

所以我认为这总体上是积极的。

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So I think it's net positive.

这对AMD和Intel也很好。

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It's good for AMD as well, good for Intel.

特朗普说这也适用于这两家公司。

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Trump said this would apply to both of those companies as well.

AMD和Intel在盘前小幅上涨,但我们需要看看这实际会对英伟达的整体财报产生多大影响。

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AMD and Intel up a little bit in the pre-markets, but we're going to need to see how much this actually affects Nvidia's broader earnings.

特朗普今晚6点将在宾夕法尼亚州就经济发表演讲。

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Trump will be delivering a speech around the economy at 6 p.m. tonight in Pennsylvania.

所以,你可能会看到一场演讲。

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So, you're going to see a speech probably.

他将谈论可负担性,谈论经济状况,谈论世界上发生的一切,可能还有美国股市关税。

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He's going to be talking about affordability, going to be talking about the state of the economy, going to be talking about everything that's going on in the world of probably, you know, the US stock market tariffs.

我的意思是,他一直在谈论关税。

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I mean, he's been going off on tariffs.

我们一直在讨论最高法院将推翻关税的这些想法。

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You know, we've been talking about these ideas that the Supreme Court is going to reverse the tariffs.

特朗普在过去48小时内一直在发推文,基本上说最高法院很可能会推翻特朗普的关税,他正在向美国人民争论这将对国家安全造成多大的危害,尽管政府有一些计划,即使他们输掉最高法院的案件,也能应对关税局面。

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Trump has been tweeting over the past 48 hours that basically it's very likely the Supreme Court is going to reverse the Trump tariffs and he's, you know, arguing to the American people how bad this would be for national security even though the administration has some plans to be able to navigate the tariff situation even if they lose the Supreme Court case.

但他正在让美国人民,或者至少他的支持者做好准备,理解即使因为最高法院我们无法使用关税,关税仍然是一场胜利。

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But he's kind of getting the American people ready or at least his base ready to understand that the tariffs are a victory even if we don't have access to them because of the Supreme Court.

在接下来的几周里,你会看到政府提出更多这样的论点。

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And you're going to see a lot more of those arguments over the coming over the coming weeks from the administration.

Jose说他们确实需要这些芯片。

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Jose says they really need the chips all cap from them. Yeah.

关于中国,我们从华为那里看到的,中国公司的芯片架构水平仍然不如英伟达最差的芯片。

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The thing about the Chinese as well is that you know even what we've seen from Huawei, we haven't seen a level of chip architecture from the Chinese companies that is still as good as even Nvidia's worst chips.

我的意思是,有些甚至与英伟达正在创造的芯片相比,但没有达到实质性水平。

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I mean some of them compare I mean even some of them compared to to what Nvidia has been creating but not at a substantial level.

甚至DeepSeek(一个AI模型),人们忘记了DeepSeek,它在英伟达股价下跌50%时创造了整个下跌机会,它是在5万个H100芯片上训练的,而不是在华为芯片上训练的。

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Even deepseek people forget deepseek which created that whole dip opportunity on video when it fell 50%. Was trained on 50,000 H100s wasn't trained on Huawei chips.

所以我确实认为中国有点虚张声势。

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So I do think the Chinese are kind of bluffing right here.

他们很乐意获得这些芯片,但他们不想看起来像是:“好吧,你给我们你的B级芯片。”

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They would love to have access to these chips but they don't want to seem like okay fine you give us your B chip.

所以每个人都会知道,如果美国公司能获得Blackwell和Ruben,中国模型可能会不如美国模型强大。

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And so everyone's obviously going to know that Chinese models are going to potentially be less powerful than US models if US companies have access to Black Bull and Reuben.

中国可能宁愿不想要那些芯片,但我认为他们仍然想要这些芯片。

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China would probably rather not even want those chips, but I think they still want the chips.

从表面上看,他们不想要,但实际上,他们想要。

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Perceptually, they don't want the chips, but realistically, they want the chips.

所以,我们将看看市场如何看待它。

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So, we're going to see how the market thinks of it.

总的来说,我认为英伟达将向中国销售这些芯片是总体利好的。

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Overall, I think it's net net bullish that um Nvidia is going to be getting these sales to China.

英伟达在盘前交易中为186.48美元。

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Nvidia right there 18648 right here in the pre-market.

是的,中国正在玩一些五维国际象棋。

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Yeah, a little bit of 5D chess being played from the from the Chinese.

所以,这就是英伟达的情况。

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So, that's what you got on video.

我们将在市场开盘时看看情况如何,但这只是主要更新之一,我们将看看能否回到190美元的区间。

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We'll see when the market opens how that plays out, but that's kind of one of the main updates and we're going to see if we can get back to that 190 range.

华纳兄弟探索公司(Warner Bros. Discovery)收购战

华纳兄弟探索公司,我们来谈谈它。

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Warner Brothers, let's talk about that.

盘前上涨1.32%。

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Up 1.32% in the pre-markets.

这个故事简直太疯狂了。

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This story has just been absolutely crazy.

我相信如果你关注财经媒体或科技媒体,每个人都在谈论这个。

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I'm sure if you follow finance media in general or even technology media, everyone is talking about this.

坦率地说,我认为每个人都在谈论这个,仅仅因为它将广泛影响媒体格局。

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And you know, quite frankly, I think everyone's talking about this simply because it's going to affect the media landscape at a broad broad scale.

首先,让我们听听Paramount首席执行官大卫·埃里森(David Ellison),他是拉里·埃里森(Larry Ellison)的儿子,昨天关于华纳兄弟探索公司说了些什么。

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First, let's just listen to what the CEO of Paramount, David Ellison, who is Larry Ellison's son, said yesterday about Warner Brothers.

他们开始对该公司发起恶意收购(hostile bid: 一种未经目标公司董事会同意而直接向股东提出的收购要约)。

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They started initiating a hostile bid for the company.

就像内部人士和活跃投资者进行恶意收购一样,公司也可以进行恶意收购,也就是说,如果你已经同意出售你的公司,我们将出更高的价格。

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Just like you have insiders and active investors engage in hostile takeovers, you can also have companies engage in hostile bids, which is, hey, if you've already agreed to sell your company, we are going to outbid you.

直接去找股东,让他们决定我们的报价是否比你的报价更好,而公司有诚信义务(fiduciary responsibility: 法律或道德上要求一方为另一方利益行事的责任)评估每一个报价,如果报价更好,就必须认真对待。

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go direct to the shareholders and let them decide as if our offer is better than your offer and the company which has a fiduciary responsibility to evaluate every offer has to take it seriously if the offer is net better.

我们的报价是每股30美元,全部现金,由埃里森家族和Redbird支持的410亿美元股权。

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Our offer is $30 a share, all cash, $41 billion in equity that's backs stopped by the Ellison family and Redbird.

还有来自Citi、Bank of America和Apollo承诺的540亿美元债务。

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$54 billion in debt with commitments from City, Bank of America, and Apollo.

我们有更快的监管确定性来完成交易。

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We have faster regulatory certainty to close.

我们的交易是支持消费者、支持创意人才、支持竞争的。

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And our deal is proconsumer. It's procreative talent. It's it's it's pro competition.

我们相信,当你进一步将每股30美元的现金情境化时,这比他们签署的每股20-23美元的交易多出176亿美元现金。

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And we believe that when you actually to further contextualize the R $30 in cash or sorry $30 a share is is basically $17.6 billion in cash more than the $20 $23 a share that they signed up. Right.

好吧,你显然不是在为全球网络付费。

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Well, you're not obviously pay you're you're paying for global networks.

他们的交易不包括为全球网络付费,这些网络作为上市公司进行交易,顺便说一下,这在这里和在确定各自交易的总价值方面也占有非常重要的地位。

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Their deal doesn't involve paying for global networks which are traded as public company which by the way also figures very prominently here and in trying to determine what the overall value of the respected deals are.

因为有2775,包括他们交易的股票部分,但它也包括全球网络是什么,是2美元的股票还是4美元的股票,你看到了什么,因为这在确定董事会为什么会说不,我们认为Netflix更优越方面大有帮助。

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Um because there are 2775 including obviously the c the stock portion of their deal but it also includes well what's global networks is it a $2 stock is it a$ four dollar stock what do you see because that can go a long way in terms of at least determining why the board may have said no we think Netflix is superior

所以,我们认为其价值基本上是每股1美元。

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>> so so respectfully we think that basically that's valued at a dollar a share I think if you

为什么是1美元?

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>> why a dollar

如果你看中位数,大约是4.5倍,你需要达到5倍的股权价值才能达到你所声称的3美元以上。

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>> so if if you look at vers where the median of all of this is it's about four and a half times you you have to get to five times equity value or for to basically get to the, you know, kind of $3 plus that you're claiming.

但再说一遍,我认为这里最重要的是,我们身处华尔街,现金仍然为王。

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But again, I think the most important thing to go back here is look, we're sitting on Wall Street where cash is still king.

我们向股东提供的现金比他们目前与Netflix签署的交易多176亿美元。

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We are offering shareholders 17.6 billion more cash than the deal they currently have signed up with Netflix.

我们相信当他们看到我们目前的报价时,他们会投票支持。

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And we believe when they see what is currently in our offer that that's what they'll vote for.

他说得对,他们提供的现金比Netflix多。

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So he's right about that. uh they are offering more cash than what Netflix is offering.

尽管这个报价与他们一周前被拒绝的报价相似,但那个报价不是要约收购(tender offer: 一种直接向目标公司股东发出的购买其股票的公开要约),也不是全部现金。

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And although the offer is similar to the offer they made a week ago that got rejected, that offer wasn't a tender offer for all cash.

我认为这就是他们直接去找股东并提出他们正在提出的论点的一个独特之处。

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And I think that's kind of one of the unique differences for why they're they're going straight to the shareholders and making the argument that they're making.

现在,如果有人了解拉里·埃里森,他就是一些人所说的恶意收购之王。

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Now, if if anyone knows anything about Larry Ellison, he is what some people would call the king of hostile takeovers.

正如你在这里看到的,自2003年以来,这个人迅速确保他会进行积极的追求、积极的谈判或恶意出价,以获得他想要的东西。

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As you can see right here, since 2003, this guy has rapidly made sure that he would engage in either an aggressive pursuit, aggressive negotiation, or a hostile bid to be able to get what he wants.

他是地球上第四富有的人,净资产2700亿美元。

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He is the I think fourth richest person on the planet, $270 billion net worth.

我的意思是,他想赢,而且看起来他不会轻易输。

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I mean, he wants to win, and it doesn't seem like he's easily going to lose.

现在,这个故事变得如此有趣还有另一个原因,那就是两件事。

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Now, the the the the other reason this story is becoming so interesting to people is because, well, two things.

第一,Netflix已经签署了协议,对吧?

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Number one, uh Netflix already signed the deal, right?

所以他们已经签署了720亿美元的协议,或者820亿美元。

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So they already signed the deal for 72 billion. That deal or 82 billion.

那个协议不包括电视网络。

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That deal doesn't include the TV networks.

所以,正如Prunifi在这里所说,Paramount想收购Discovery。

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And so yes, as as Prunifi is saying right here, Paramount wants to buy Discovery.

他们出价更高,但他们购买的更多,他们还想从华纳兄弟探索公司剥离有线电视网络。

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They're offering more, but they're buying more, but they also want to take off the cable networks from Warner Brothers Discovery.

所以,那个新的分拆公司将以自己的独立方式上市,而那家公司在公开市场上可能不会成功。

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So that the sort of new spin company that will go public in an own independent way, which that company's probably not going to succeed in the public markets.

我的意思是,老实说,那就是线性电视。

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I mean, let's be honest, us that's linear TV.

那只股票不会被炒高。

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Like, that stock's not going to get bit up.

所以,我认为Paramount的论点是:“嘿,我们已经有了现有的基础设施。

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So, I think Paramount's argument is just like, hey, we already have the existing infrastructure.

我们为什么不把所有东西都带到我们家里,然后从那里继续呢?”

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Why don't we just bring everything inside our house and keep it going from there?

Netflix的论点是:“我们只想要工作室,我们认为我们为工作室支付了合理的价格,而且,我们可能比埃里森家族更适合出售。”

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Netflix's argument is like, we just want the studios and we think that we are paying an appropriate price for the studios and, you know, we are probably better people to sell to versus the Elson family.

我认为华纳兄弟探索公司可能会说:“是的,我们宁愿卖给Netflix这个4000亿美元的庞然大物,而不是埃里森家族。”

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And I think there's a world in which Warner Brothers is saying, "Yeah, we'd rather sell to the 400 billion behemoth that is Netflix versus the Ellison family."

更大的问题是,为什么埃里森家族如此渴望得到这个?

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The bigger question is why does the Ellison family want this so much?

这就是你进入所有事情的政治角度的地方,也就是特朗普出现的地方。

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And that's where you get into the political angle of everything, which is where Trump comes in.

在过去的48小时里,多次对话、多次泄露的短信、多份备忘录都出来了,基本上说,这是来自特朗普政府方面的消息,他不想CNN以目前的方式被控制。

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So, multiple conversations over the past 48 hours, multiple leak texts, multiple memos have come out basically saying, this is from the Trump uh part of the administration, which is that he does not want CNN to be in control in the way that it's currently in control.

特朗普与CNN长期以来一直存在矛盾。

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Trump has had beef with CNN for a very long time.

再说一遍,Netflix不会控制CNN,因为它将成为一家新的独立公司。

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And again, Netflix won't have control of CNN because it'll be some new independent company.

但拉里控制CNN的想法,我的意思是,那可能不是世界上最糟糕的事情。

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But the idea of Larry having control of CNN, I mean, that wouldn't be the worst in the world.

考虑到特朗普知道拉里·埃里森可能更倾向于他这一边,而不是其他人拥有它,这可能对特朗普这样的人来说非常令人兴奋。

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That would probably be very exciting for someone like Trump given that he knows that Larry Ellison would likely be on his side of the aisle more so than uh if someone else owned it.

顺便说一下,这些是大卫·埃里森发给华纳兄弟探索公司首席执行官大卫·扎斯拉夫(David Zazlav)的短信。

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By the way, these are the text messages from David Ellison to David Zazlov, CEO of Warner Brothers.

他在交易前给他发了短信。

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Uh he texted him right before the deal.

“刚给你打电话谈新报价。

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Just tried calling you about the new bid.

我们听到了你所有的担忧。

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We've heard all your concerns.

我们相信我们已经解决了它们。”

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We believe we've addressed them.

然后下午4点,几个小时都没有收到短信。

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And then at 4 p.m. Didn't get a text for hours.

他给他发了这一段话。

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He sent him this paragraph.

你知道,当你连发两条短信时,就像是:“老兄,她就是对你没兴趣。”

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You know, you know when you like double text, it's like, "Dude, she's just not into you."

是的,这里就是这种情况。

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Yeah, this this is what happened here.

他连发两条短信,但仍然没有收到回复。

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He double texted and still they did not get a response.

然后第二天,Netflix收购的消息被报道出来,大卫·埃里森意识到他需要直接去找公众,让他的报价更加公开。

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And then the next day you get a Netflix acquisition that is reported and then David Ellison realizes he just needs to go straight to the people and make his bid more public.

所以政府的多个部门都在说,特朗普希望CNN以一种更友好的方式被控制。

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So multiple parts of the administration are saying that Trump would like CNN to be controlled in a in a way that's a bit more friendly.

现在特朗普已经出来说Paramount不是我的朋友,Netflix也不是我的朋友。

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Uh now Trump has come out and says that Paramount is not my friend. Netflix is not my friend.

他试图保持客观。

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He's trying to stay objective.

他甚至前几天说,他对Paramount旗下的CBS电视台播放了玛丽·泰勒·格林(Marie Marjgery Taylor Green)的《60分钟》特别节目感到恼火,而特朗普并不喜欢她。

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He even said the other day that he was annoyed that CBS, which is owned by Paramount, uh had a 60-minute special with Marie Marjgery Taylor Green, which Trump is not a fan of.

所以,你知道,他表现出对Paramount节目制作的一些不满。

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So, like, you know, he was showing some level of discontent for for what uh Paramount has been doing with their programming.

但尽管如此,我认为很多事情都会发生。

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But nonetheless, I think a lot of this is going to Oh,

然后我们昨晚从《华尔街日报》得到了重大报道,拉里·埃里森确实在Netflix宣布收购后给特朗普打了电话,基本上说:“嘿,如果你这样做,这将对竞争造成可怕的影响。”

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and then we got the big report last night from the Wall Street Journal that uh Larry Ellson did indeed call Trump after the acquisition was announced with Netflix and basically said, "Hey, if you do this, this is going to be horrible for competition."

老实说,如果你问我这件事会如何解决,我完全不知道。

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I honestly, if you had to ask me which way does this get resolved, I have no idea.

预测市场倾向于PolyMarket,或者不是PolyMarket,而是Paramount。

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Uh the the prediction markets are leaning towards Poly Market uh or not Poly Market, uh Paramount.

PolyMarket说Paramount最有可能赢。

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Poly Market is saying that Paramount's most likely going to win this.

他们有大约45%的机会。

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They have I think like a 45% chance.

我认为我们的朋友约瑟夫·卡尔森(Joseph Carlson)对此有一个很棒的推文,他解释了为什么如果Paramount赢了,这实际上会更具垄断性。

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And I think our boy Joseph Carlson had a great tweet on this right here that makes the argument for why it would actually be more monopolistic if Paramount wins this.

拉里·埃里森和他的儿子将通过Oracle控制TikTok、华纳兄弟工作室、Paramount Pictures、CBS、CNN、所有HBO和Paramount Plus。

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Larry Ellson and his son will control Tik Tok with Oracle, Warner Brothers Studios, Paramount Pictures, CBS, CNN, all of HBO and Paramount Plus.

他们还将控制大多数主要的有线电视频道,其中HBO和Discovery拥有大约150个。

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They would also control most of every major cable channel, which HBO and and Discovery own like a good 150 of them.

他们的分发能力甚至可能超过迪士尼。

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And they would have distribution that is possibly even greater than Disney.

我的意思是,归根结底,Netflix没有那种分发能力。

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I mean, at the end of the day, Netflix does not have that type of distribution.

他们有更多的订阅者,但他们肯定没有那种分发能力。

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They have more subscribers, but they definitely don't have that type of distribution.

有人可能会说,如果华纳兄弟探索公司或Paramount本身被收购,这会形成一个巨大的庞然大物。

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One could argue it would make a massive behemoth just than Warner Brothers or Paramount in and of itself if that got acquired.

现在,Netflix的最坏情况是,如果Netflix收购了他们,你将拥有大量的知识产权,如DC、蝙蝠侠、哈利波特等,这些都归Netflix所有,而Netflix占据了电视时间的7.2%。

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Now, the bare case for Netflix is that if a Netflix acquired them, you have this massive level of intellectual property like DC, Batman, Harry Potter, etc. going over to Netflix and Netflix, which accounts for, I think, 7.2% 2% of TV time.

YouTube大约是12%。

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YouTube's at like 12%.

你知道,也许这会让他们能够与YouTube竞争。

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You know, maybe that would allow them to compete with YouTube.

所以,我真的不确定这会如何发展。

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So, I really am not sure how this is going to play out.

我认为我们所有投资者都想知道的问题是,我们如何利用这一点?

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I think the question for all of us as investors want to know, how do we take advantage of this?

首先,我不知道华纳兄弟探索公司现在是不是最好的买入,因为这是最坏的情况。

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First of all, I don't know if Warner Brothers is the best buy right here because here's the worst case scenario.

如果你在华纳兄弟探索公司的股票上进行套利,我认为某些交易会发生,因为它是华纳兄弟探索公司,而且我认为特朗普不想完全阻止任何类型的合并。

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If you're playing the arbitrage on Warner Brothers stock, which look, I think some deal is going to happen because it's Warner Brothers and I don't think Trump wants to completely stop any type of merger.

但如果联邦贸易委员会(FTC: Federal Trade Commission: 美国联邦政府的独立机构,负责促进消费者保护和消除反竞争商业行为)完全阻止它怎么办?

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But what if the FTC just blocks it completely?

如果他们说:“嘿,Netflix不能买,Paramount也不能买,因为我们想保持更多的竞争。”

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What if they're like, "Hey, Netflix can't buy it and Paramount can't buy it because we want to keep more competition involved."

老实说,保持竞争的最好方法就是不发生合并。

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And honestly, the best way to keep competition is for a merger to not happen.

因为那样你就有HBO Max、Netflix、Amazon Prime、Disney Plus。

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Like, because then you have HBO Max, you have Netflix, you have Amazon Prime, you have Disney Plus.

你实际上在流媒体大战中拥有真正的竞争水平。

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You actually have like a real uh level of of competition in the streaming wars.

而且这只股票可能会跌回12美元。

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Um, and this stock probably drops back to $12, right?

如果没有收购发生,这只股票就没有理由接近这个价格。

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There's no reason for the stock to be anywhere near this price if there's not an acquisition happening.

所以,如果你持有它,那就不太好。

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So, that right there would be not the best if you're holding on to it.

如果Paramount成功收购,我认为Netflix可能会上涨,因为股东对Netflix想花费820亿美元并不满意,而且Netflix即使没有这次收购也能生存。

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If it does happen for Paramount, I think Netflix probably goes up because shareholders aren't the happiest that Netflix is wants to spend $82 billion and Netflix will survive even without this acquisition.

所以,我认为这只股票会没事的。

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So, I think the stock will be okay.

如果Netflix成功收购,如果这只股票大幅下跌怎么办,因为股东对Netflix如何实现这一目标没有信心?

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If it does go for Netflix, what if this thing drops dramatically because shareholders are just not confident about what Netflix is going to be able to make this play out or how Netflix is going to be able to make this play out.

所以,我不知道。

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So, I don't know.

我对此持观望态度。

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I'm sitting out of this.

我的意思是,考虑到所有正在发生的事情,我一直在更深入地思考Netflix,但我认为对此的监管审查将需要时间。

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I mean, I've been thinking about Netflix more deeply given everything that's been playing out, but I think the regulatory scrutiny on this is going to take time.

即使它不需要时间,假设Netflix确实买下了它们,这东西也不会很快飙升到150美元。

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Even even if it doesn't take time, let's say Netflix does get to buy them, this thing's not rocketing up to 150 anytime soon.

我的意思是,这东西需要一些时间才能真正发挥作用,我认为需要大量的内部运作才能向市场证明这次收购是合理的。

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I mean, this thing is going to take some time to really play out, I think there's going to need to be a lot of inner workings to show to the street that this acquisition makes sense.

无论是对Paramount还是其他公司,我肯定不会购买Paramount的股票。

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Whether it's for Paramount or I'm definitely not buying Paramount stock.

那只股票长期以来一直是一场灾难。

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That stock has been a disaster for a long time.

所以,我的意思是,实际上问题是,你是否购买Netflix?

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So, I mean, realistically, the question is, do you buy Netflix or not?

我认为即使它发挥作用,你也要给它时间。

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And I think even if it plays out, you give this thing time.

你给它时间,看看Netflix能否有意义地为股东带来增值,拥有所有这些内容的观念是非常非常利好的,但这并不意味着它在第一天甚至第一年就会奏效。

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You give this thing time. You see if Netflix can meaningfully make this accretive to shareholders and the perception of having all of that content super is super super bullish, but that doesn't mean it's necessarily going to work on day one or even in year one.

所以,我认为在这里保持观望并不疯狂。

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And so I think kind of being on the sidelines here is not that crazy.

我不知道Netflix是否是这次华纳兄弟探索公司交易中的一生一次的机会。

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I don't know if Netflix is the opportunity of a lifetime right here on this Warner Brothers deal.

但如果它没有发生,我认为Netflix短期内上涨的机会更大。

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But if it doesn't happen, I think there's a better chance that Netflix goes up in the short term.

从长远来看,我确实认为他们需要达成这样的交易,因为归根结底,Netflix需要更好的内容,而这是一个获得这些内容的一生一次的机会。

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In the long term, I do think they need to get a deal like this because ultimately like Netflix needs better content and this is a once in a-lifetime opportunity to be to be able to get that content.

是的,Netflix想要知识产权,而埃里森想要媒体控制权。

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Yeah. Netflix wants IP and Ellison wants media control.

我没有意识到拉里·埃里森一直在追求这种媒体权力叙事。

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I I I didn't realize Larry Ellison is on this whole media like uh power narrative that he's been going on.

我的意思是,我知道这个人很有权力,我知道这个人有影响力,但埃里森家族,顺便说一下,整个竞标都由埃里森家族支持。

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I mean, like I know the guy's powerful. I know the guy has influence, but like the Ellison family is which which by the way the entire bid is backed by the Ellison family.

所以大卫·埃里森说:“嘿,我们正在支持Netflix,我们用我们的股权支持它,价值4000亿美元。”

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So like David Ellison's like hey like we are back stop Netflix like we're backstopping it with our equity which is worth 400 billion and Larry Ellison's like well I'm worth half of what Netflix is worth myself.

拉里·埃里森说:“好吧,我自己的身家是Netflix价值的一半。

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I'm going to personally backs stop this deal.

我将亲自支持这笔交易。”

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So I guess they want to control a lot more of the media landscape and they're going to really fight hard for this.

所以我想他们想控制更多的媒体格局,他们会为此非常努力地争取。

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Hopefully consumers end up winning at the end of the day.

希望最终消费者能赢。

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This story is not over and it looks like the story is going to be playing out for a long long time to see uh see who ends up winning.

这个故事还没有结束,看起来这个故事将长期持续下去,看看谁最终会赢。

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Yeah, Kushner is also in it as well.

是的,库什纳也参与其中。

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The Saudis are in it on Paramount.

沙特人也支持Paramount。

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I mean, you've got all these different characters that are now entering the mix.

我的意思是,现在有很多不同的角色加入进来。

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It's like, dude, who would have thought by the end of the year one of the hottest media stories would be Netflix versus Paramount.

谁会想到到年底,最热门的媒体故事之一会是Netflix对Paramount?

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Like, I did not have that on my bingo list.

我可没料到。

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But there you go.

但事情就是这样。

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And that's what's happening.

我们将看看市场最终如何看待它。

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And we're going to see ultimately how the street thinks of it.

Netflix在盘前小幅上涨。

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Netflix, right? They're up a little bit in the pre-market.

华纳兄弟探索公司上涨1%,标普500指数持平,盘前下跌约0.1%。

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Warner Brothers up 1%, S&P 500 is flat, down about 10%.

Grab、Google和OpenAI的最新动态

关于Grab的快速更新。

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Uh, quick update on Grab.

我们收到了Benchmark的更新。

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So, uh, we got an update right here from Benchmark.

他们重申了7美元的目标价。

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They reiterated their $7 price target.

我认为关于Grab有两件事要谈。

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I think there's two things to talk about on Grab.

第一,老实说,过去几周我没有想到这一点,但这可能也解释了为什么Grab一直在下跌。

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Number one, uh, and this is I honestly didn't think of this for the past couple of weeks, but this also probably explains why Grab has been selling off.

Sea Limited在过去一个月下跌了约30%。

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Um, C Limited, C Limited is down about 30% over the past month.

我甚至不确定为什么,我没有像我应该的那样积极分析Sea Limited,因为它也是东南亚的竞争对手,但那只股票受到了打击。

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I'm not even sure why I haven't analyzed C Limited as aggressively as I probably should given it's another Southeast Asian rival, but that stock has been hit.

所以,当你的主要竞争对手的利润率比Grab好得多,增长速度也比Grab快,当它下跌30%时,它的竞争对手也可能会随之下跌。

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And so, when you have a major competitor that's has way better margins than Grab and it's growing faster than Grab, you know, when that drops 30%, you're going to have its rivals also probably drop with it.

所以,我认为这是它受到打击的原因之一。

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So, I think that's one of the reasons it's been hit.

Benchmark今天早上说:“我们最近接待了Grab的投资者关系团队进行了一次虚拟投资者会议。

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Benchmark said this morning, "We recently hosted the Grab IR team for a virtual investor meeting.

该公司致力于在核心业务(配送和出行)实现持续增长,同时保持稳定的激励水平。

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The company is targeting sustained growth across its core segments, deliveries, and mobilities while maintaining stable incentive levels.

其金融科技业务已为加速贷款簿扩张做好准备,并有明确的盈利路径。”

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Its fintech business's position for accelerated loan book expansion has a clear path to profitability.

近几个月来,其股价回落主要是由于获利了结和高贝塔表现优异者,Grab确实达到了6.50美元,今年上涨了近50%。

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Um, the reason their share prices pulled back in recent months is largely due to profit taking and high beta outperformers, which you know, Grab did get to 650. It was up almost 50% for the year.

该公司的指导方针一贯保守,市场也预期如此。

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The company's characteristically conservative guidance, which the market had anticipated.

尽管如此,我们认为2026财年的前景仍然有利。

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Nevertheless, we believe fiscal year 2026 setup remains favorable.

Grab继续利用可负担性举措。

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RAP continues to leverage affordability initiatives.

在我们看来,近期股价疲软为寻求新兴市场投资组合中引人注目的机会的投资者提供了一个有吸引力的切入点,进入2026财年。

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In our view, the recent share price weakness represents an attractive entry point for investors seeking compelling opportunities for an emerging markets portfolio going into fiscal year 2026.

所以,我的意思是,看,我理解人们讨厌价格走势。

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So, I mean, look, I understand that people hate the price action.

我明白。

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I get it.

作为我投资组合的重要组成部分,这并不好玩。

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It's not fun having that as a heavy part of my portfolio.

相信我,如果我把年初投入Grab的钱投入到英伟达或其他任何东西,你知道,它可能给我带来了更好的年初至今回报。

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Trust me, if I have taken the money I put in Grab in the beginning of the year and I put it into like even Nvidia or anything else, you know, it probably would have generated even better year-to- date returns for me.

但归根结底,我相信这只股票仍然被低估了,我无法完全控制价格走势。

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But at the end of the day, I believe the stock is still undervalued and I cannot fully control the price action.

我认为在5.11美元这个价位,它以这些水平交易是愚蠢的。

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I think at this point at $511, it is stupid trading at these levels.

除了可能与Sea Limited下跌的相关性之外,我没有解释为什么。

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I don't have the explanation for why outside of maybe the correlation with C Limited going down.

但我已经做了估值工作,我认为我们很多人都做了估值工作。

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But I've done the valuation work and I think a lot of us have done the valuation work.

股票很便宜。

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Stock is cheap.

问题是什么改变了叙事?

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question is what changes the narrative?

显然,我们有将在年底解决的问题,我们将看看那次收购如何改变公司的想法。

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Obviously got the go-to thing that's probably going to resolve itself towards the end of the year and we're going to see how that acquisition changes how the company's thinking of it.

但过去几天交易量也达到了约4000万股。

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But the volume over the past couple days has also been around 40 million shares.

你知道,几周前交易量正在下降,现在交易量又开始回升了。

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You know, volume was dying out a couple weeks ago, volume has started to come back.

股价就是不配合。

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Stock price has just been not cooperating.

所以,这是股票的低迷时期之一,你知道,就像Hood两年下跌到六七美元一样。

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So, it's one of those dog days for the stock where, you know, with Hood down for two years at six, seven bucks.

Palantir也是一样。

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Same thing with Pounder.

我不是说Grab是Hood或Palantir,但确实有这些时期,它停滞不前,你不知道为什么停滞不前,但你知道一切都在向上发展。

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Not saying grab his hood or pound pouncer, but you do have these periods where it's stuck and you don't know why it's stuck, but you do know everything is going up and to the right.

你正在等待股价反映这一点。

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You're waiting for the stock price to reflect that.

如果你不想等待,那么还有很多其他波动性大的股票,你知道,它们可能有更快的价格走势。

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If you don't want to wait for that, then there's plenty of other volatile names that are out there that, you know, probably have quicker price action.

但对于Grab,我将继续持有。

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But with Grab, I continue to hold it.

如果跌破5美元,我将继续加仓。

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And if we fall below five, I will continue to add more.

我已经有了相当大的仓位,但如果它真的跌得更低,那么我可能会加仓。

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I already have a pretty heavy position, but if this thing really ends up getting lower, then I likely will be adding more.

但是的,所有分析师都继续认为7美元是目标价。

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But yeah, all the analysts continue to believe $7 is the price target.

一些最看涨的分析师认为在8美元左右。

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You have some of the most bullish analysts at around $8.

我认为目前更接近公允价值是7.20-7.30美元,我们将看看在年底前会如何发展。

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I think closer fair value is around 720 730 right now and we're going to see how this ends up playing out as we get into the end of the year.

Waymo的消息对谷歌来说非常利好。

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Uh Whimo news, super bullish for Google.

昨天谷歌下跌了。

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Now Google went down yesterday.

不确定为什么他们会下跌。

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Not sure why they deserve to go down.

我们将讨论导致下跌的具体新闻标题,但看看这个。

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We'll talk about, you know, exactly the headline that caused it, but take a look at this.

Waymo现在每周提供超过45万次付费机器人出租车服务。

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Whimo is now providing over 450,000 paid robo taxi rides per week.

这比七个月前的每周25万次有所增加。

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That's up from 250,000 per week just 7 months ago.

我的意思是,这简直令人难以置信。

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I mean, this is absolutely incredible.

我觉得我们对Waymo谈论得不够多。

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I I feel like we don't talk about Whimo enough.

我们知道特斯拉的机器人。

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We know, you know, Tesla ro.

顺便说一下,我确实在我的特斯拉上下载了14.2版本,它太棒了。

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By the way, I did download uh 14.2 on um on my Tesla and it's amazing.

我已经用了一个星期了,简直太棒了。

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I've had it for about a week now. Absolutely amazing.

14.2和13.9之间有明显的区别。

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Like I I there is a noticeable difference between 14.2 and 13.9.

所以,你知道,我喜欢我的特斯拉上的FSD(Full Self-Driving: 特斯拉的全自动驾驶系统),但特斯拉显然没有每周45万次付费机器人出租车服务。

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And so, you know, I'm loving FSD on my Tesla, but Tesla is obviously not having 450,000 paid robo taxi rides per week.

现在,一旦他们扩大规模,并且有数百万辆特斯拉作为机器人出租车车队运行,那种更广泛的FSD理论,那么,你知道,未来几年45万次可能就不算什么了。

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Now, once they end up scaling it and you have millions of Teslas functioning as the fleet of robot taxes, kind of that whole broader FSD thesis, then, you know, maybe 450,000 is going to be a nothing burner in the coming years.

但现在,Waymo表现出色,而且他们在过去一周增加了多个新城市。

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But right now, Whimo's crushing it and uh they've added multiple new cities over the past week.

旧金山、洛杉矶、凤凰城、奥斯汀和亚特兰大,他们有200辆车每周提供45万次付费机器人出租车服务。

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San Francisco, Los Angeles, Phoenix, Austin, and Atlanta is where they have 200 vehicles that are doing the 450,000 paid robo taxi rides every single week.

那么,谷歌昨天为什么下跌了呢?

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So, why was Google down yesterday?

有报道称,Gemini(谷歌的AI模型)正准备在2026年整合广告。

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Well, there are reports that Gemini is getting ready to incorporate advertising in 2026.

谷歌出来否认了,尽管我们知道广告最终会进入Gemini。

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Google came out and they kind of denied it, even though, you know, we know that ads are eventually coming to Gemini.

谷歌昨天下跌了约2%,盘前又下跌了1%。

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And Google right there was down about 2% yesterday, down another 1% in the pre-markets.

我认为这是谷歌下跌最愚蠢的原因。

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I think this is the dumbest reason for Google to sell off.

我认为这是一个虚假的原因。

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I think this is a fake reason.

谷歌下跌是因为它今年上涨了80%,人们正在获利了结,而不是因为他们将广告整合到Gemini中。

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Google is selling off because it's up 80% for the year and people are taking profits, not because they're going to incorporate ads into Gemini.

因为坦率地说,如果他们将广告整合到Gemini中,那对谷歌来说是好事。

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Because quite frankly, if they incorporate ads into Gemini, um, that's going to be good for Google.

Gemini有6.5亿月活跃用户。

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They have 650 million monthly active users on Gemini.

如果他们开始向你展示广告,他们就会开始从中获利。

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If they start showing you ads, they're going to start monetizing that.

所以,我不认为这是利空,除非市场认为人们会因为广告而停止使用Gemini,这对我来说有点愚蠢。

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So, I don't see how this is bearish unless the street thinks people will stop using Gemini because of the advertising, which is kind of stupid to me.

所以,我认为人们抛售谷歌是因为他们需要获利了结。

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So, I think people are selling Google because they need to take profits.

这是公平的。

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And like that's fair.

如果谷歌收盘低于300美元,你知道,年底收于295美元,那么谷歌将上涨63%而不是84%。

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If Google closes below 300 and, you know, it closes the year at 295, okay, Google will be up 63% instead of 84%.

这并不是什么值得人们过于担心的事情。

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Like, it's just not something that I think people should be too concerned over.

这可能创造了更好的买入机会。

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Probably creates a better buying opportunity.

现在你有了巴菲特的支持。

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You know, now you've got Buffett on your side.

谷歌今年迄今仍上涨77%。

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Google's still up 77% year to date.

但看起来获利了结是下跌的更大原因,而不是潜在的广告业务。

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But it does seem like the profit taking is the bigger reason for the sell-off, not necessarily the potential in advertising.

现在,《华尔街日报》发表了一篇关于萨姆·奥尔特曼(Sam Altman)和OpenAI“红色警报”的文章。

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Now, the Wall Street Journal came out with an article about uh Sam Alman and this code red on OpenAI.

我今天早上读了整篇文章。

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I read the whole article this morning.

根据萨姆·奥尔特曼泄露给公司的备忘录,这些备忘录不知何故一直在泄露,OpenAI里有一些人一直在泄露这些备忘录。

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Um it does seem based on the leaked memos from Sam Alman to the company which somehow keep getting leaked, you got some people in OpenAI that are constantly leaking these memos.

我们将讨论欧盟的诉讼,因为他们开始以更高的税率向这些美国科技公司征税。

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We'll talk about the European Union lawsuits because they are starting to tax these American tech companies at a at a heavier rate.

萨姆·奥尔特曼基本上说,我们需要停止开发Sora(OpenAI的视频生成模型),我们需要停止开发企业级产品。

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Um Sam Alman basically said we need to stop working on Sora which is their video generation model. We need to stop working on enterprise.

我们只需要让ChatGPT(OpenAI的聊天机器人)变得更好。

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We need to just make chat GPT better.

所以他给团队的备忘录核心是,如果我们让GPT变得更好,我们就有机会增加业务的其他部分。

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And so the crux of his memo to uh the team was that if we make GPT better we will have a chance to increase all the other parts of the business.

但我们增加业务其他部分的唯一方法是专注于GPT,顺便说一下,我有点认为这是正确的方法。

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But the only way we increase the other parts of the business is by focusing on GPT which by the way I kind of think is the right way to I mean GPT ever since I subscribed to it a couple weeks ago.

自从我几周前订阅GPT以来,我现在每月支付20美元。

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Uh I'm now paying that $20 a month.

它成了我的首选。

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It's become my go-to.

我停止使用Grok(埃隆·马斯克的AI模型)了。

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I've like stopped using Grock.

我很抱歉,但Grok不好。

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I'm sorry, but Grock is not good.

我爱埃隆。

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I love Elon.

我每月支付50美元给X。

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I pay the freaking $50 a month for X.

它就是不好,不如ChatGPT好。

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Like, it's it's not good. It's just not It's not It's not as good as Chachi.

所以,我认为如果他们专注于继续发展它,那将对他们来说是一个巨大的推动力。

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So, I think if they focus on continuing to grow that that is going to be a massive massive tailwind for them.

问题是,他们能否继续专注于业务的消费者端,并能够扩展到他们所指导的1.4万亿美元的资本支出,并以他们需要增长的速度增长?

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The question is, can they continue to focus on just the consumer side of the business and be able to scale to the point where they can spend the 1.4 4 trillion that they've guided that they're going to spend in terms of capex and grow as fast as they need to grow?

我不知道。

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I don't know.

模型很好,但有很多人可能喜欢Grok,因为他们有不同的用例,或者每天使用Claude,他们不太关心GPT。

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I the model's good, but there's plenty of people that might like Grock because they have a different use case or might use claw on a daily basis and they don't care that much about GPT.

所以萨姆·奥尔特曼的愿景是:“嘿,我们将继续发展这个,让它成为最好的模型。”

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So Sam Alman's vision is kind of, hey, we're going to keep growing this and make it the best model.

你知道,他们已经有8亿月活跃用户。

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You know, they already have 800 million monthly active users.

他们能达到10亿吗?

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Can they get to that billion and is that billion going to be enough?

10亿够吗?

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And then you got this report from Meta.

然后你收到了Meta的这份报告。

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Meta is reportedly preparing a new proprietary AI model codenamed Avocado for Q1 2026 positioned as the successor to its open source Llama.

据报道,Meta正在准备一款代号为Avocado(牛油果)的新专有AI模型,作为其开源Llama(Meta的开源AI模型)的继任者,计划于2026年第一季度推出。

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I think Meta has to do this.

我认为Meta必须这样做。

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Quite frankly, if you're long meta, you you know, you can't, I think, just rely on the advertising business.

坦率地说,如果你长期持有Meta,你不能仅仅依靠广告业务。

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You have to be wondering what they're doing with their capex.

你必须想知道他们在资本支出方面做了什么。

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And their capex has to be having some type of AI product.

他们的资本支出必须用于某种AI产品。

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In this case, it's probably a new model.

在这种情况下,它可能是一个新模型。

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And whatever avocado looks like, whether it's for enterprise adoption, whether for it's it's it's a follow-up to their series of llamas for the consumer use cases in Meta AI, it's got to be something that gets people excited.

无论Avocado看起来如何,无论是用于企业采用,还是作为Meta AI中消费者用例的Llama系列后续产品,它都必须是能让人们兴奋的东西。

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The problem is it just continues to create competition through GPT.

问题是它只会通过GPT继续制造竞争。

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And so I think OpenAI is in a pretty precarious position right here because obviously Google has way way more distribution.

所以我认为OpenAI现在处于一个相当不稳定的位置,因为显然谷歌拥有更多的分发渠道。

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Google is crushing it with Gemini 3.

谷歌凭借Gemini 3表现出色。

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Nano Banana is off the charts.

Nano Banana表现惊人。

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GPT is still, I think, one of the better models.

GPT仍然是,我认为,更好的模型之一。

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5.2 likely is coming out early 2026, but the fact that they've stopped focusing on all the other business initiatives just to make the model better.

5.2版本很可能在2026年初发布,但他们停止专注于所有其他业务计划,只为了让模型更好。

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By the way, there was a lot of researchers who again anonymously told the Wall Street Journal that um Sam Alman is sacrificing safety for growth because a lot of the things that they felt were unsafe with the mental health portions of the model, they feel they fixed.

顺便说一下,有很多研究人员再次匿名告诉《华尔街日报》,萨姆·奥尔特曼正在牺牲安全性以换取增长,因为他们认为模型中与心理健康部分相关的不安全因素,他们觉得已经修复了。

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In fact, Sam Alman was on the uh Jimmy Fallon show last night.

事实上,萨姆·奥尔特曼昨晚参加了吉米·法伦秀。

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It was one of the most awkward conversations.

那是一次最尴尬的对话之一。

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I mean, again, like the guy is a bit weird when it comes to these public interviews, but um like he's sacrificing what Daario, who created Anthropic, who used to work at OpenAI, really cared about, which is safety for user growth.

我的意思是,再说一遍,这个人在公开采访中有点奇怪,但他正在牺牲曾创建Anthropic并在OpenAI工作的大流(Dario Amodei)真正关心的东西,即安全性,以换取用户增长。

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And the question is, is it going to work?

问题是,这会奏效吗?

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And is it going to be the best investment that Open AAI can make going into the future?

这会是OpenAI未来能做的最好投资吗?

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Google doesn't really need to sacrifice all those types of things because Google has a lot of money, a lot of distribution, and a lot of time to be able to work on the parts of the business that don't need to make money.

谷歌不需要牺牲所有这些东西,因为谷歌有很多钱,很多分发渠道,以及很多时间来处理那些不需要赚钱的业务部分。

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Like Gemini doesn't need to make a single penny for them because they've got the search business.

例如,Gemini不需要为他们赚一分钱,因为他们有搜索业务。

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Whereas GPG needs to generate revenue today.

而GPT今天就需要产生收入。

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Otherwise, a lot of these investors like SoftBank putting in 40 billion are not going to be happy in the next coming years.

否则,很多像软银这样投入400亿美元的投资者在未来几年内会不高兴。

所以,我们将拭目以待,但越来越多的竞争对消费者有利,最终,我们必须跟上OpenAI的步伐,看看他们是否能真正兑现他们所说的支出承诺。

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So, we're going to see, but more and more competition is good for consumers, and ultimately, we're going to have to keep up with OpenAI and see if they can actually commit to the spending that they've said they can commit to.

这取决于模型能否以他们需要增长的速度增长。

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And that relies on the models growing as fast as uh as fast as they need to grow.

是的,Avocado是Meta的新模型,它很可能在2026年第一季度初宣布。

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Yeah, Avocado is the new meta model that uh well, it's the code name for the meta model that will be announced probably early in Q1 of 2026.

根据Meta的描述,它是一个代号为Avocado的前沿AI模型。

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as per meta the the description is it's a frontier AI model codenamed avocado

它看起来不会是一个开源模型,因为Llama作为开源架构似乎失败了,看起来闭源是人们真正赚钱的方式。

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and it doesn't look like it's going to be a uh open source model because llama as an open source architecture kind of failed seems like closed source is the way for people to actually make money

我不知道他们为什么叫它Avocado,但是的,看起来这就是他们的新模型。

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I don't know why they called it avocado but yeah it looks like that is the new the new model that they have

劳动力市场与美联储降息预期

就业方面,私人雇主在11月每周增加了4750个工作岗位。

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uh jobs so private employers added 4750 50 jobs weekly in November.

市场预期会减少13000个工作岗位,结果却增加了4750个。

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The street expected a loss of 13,000 jobs. Came into an increase of 4,750 jobs.

我们将更多地讨论即将到来的降息,明天将有89.4%的机会获得降息。

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We'll talk more about what we've got with rate cuts coming up uh tomorrow. There's an 89.4% chance now of us getting this rate cut.

我认为这个就业数据微不足道,不足以影响降息。

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I think this jobs data is minuscule. It's not going to be enough to take away from the rate cut.

你知道,有一些人,比如BlackRock的里克·里德(Rick Rieder),说我们明天应该降息50个基点。

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You know, you've got some people like Rick Reer from Black Rockck saying that we should be doing 50 bips tomorrow.

根据他们看到的劳动力市场数据,有更多鸽派人士出现。

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You've got a lot more of the doves coming out just based on some of the labor market data that they're seeing.

我认为我们会降息25个基点。

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I think we'll get 25.

我怀疑会降息50个基点。

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I doubt we're going to get 50.

但完全不降息的可能性不大。

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But the idea that we don't get any rate cut is likely not going to happen.

所以问题是它是否已经被市场消化,我们将更多地讨论它是否最终被市场消化。

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So question is if it's priced in, and we'll talk more about if that ends up being priced in.

但我确实认为如果市场认为降息是年底前的一个有意义的差异化因素,明天市场可能会上涨。

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But I do think there's a shot for the market to rip tomorrow if they feel the rate cut is a meaningful differentiator going into into the end of the year.

这是迈克·威尔逊(Mike Wilson)对12月底降息将把我们带向何方的看法。

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Here's Mike Wilson and his thoughts on what he's thinking for where the rate cut takes us by the end of December.

Mike Wilson:现在的数据显示,就业人数和裁员人数的变化率在4月份达到顶峰或谷底,正好是市场触底的时候。

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Mike Wilson: data now is that the rate of change on both payrolls and layoffs peaked or bottom depending on which one you're looking at in April, right when the market bottom.

所以,我们现在已经有一段时间的这个叙事变得更受欢迎了。

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So, and this narrative that we've had for a while now is becoming a bit more popular.

我们喜欢其他人也在某种程度上采纳它,因为他们正在寻找市场表现的原因。

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We like that that other people are kind of adopting it to some degree because they're looking for a rationale or reason for why the market's done when it's done.

这对明年非常重要,因为这意味着美联储有更多的降息空间,可能比人们想象的要多,或者他们可以对资产负债表做些事情。

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And that is very important for next year because a it means the Fed has more room to cut than probably people think, okay?

其次,你将看到资金轮动到那些表现不佳的市场部分。

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Or they can do things with the balance sheet. And secondly, you're going to get a rotation now into the parts of the market that have not performed that well.

这是我们对2026年的预测。

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That's our call for 2026.

主持人:为什么劳动力市场不疲软会给美联储更多机会?

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>> Why would uh the labor market not being weak give the Fed more opportunity?

Mike Wilson:嗯,因为他们会意识到他们的数据本身非常滞后。

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>> Well, because they're going to realize that their the data itself is very lagged.

我不是在责怪美联储。

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I'm not blaming the Fed.

这很棘手。

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This is tricky.

我的意思是,实时操作很难。

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I mean, it's hard in real time.

数据一直不够疲软,不足以证明更多降息是合理的。

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The data has not been weak enough to justify cutting more.

但当他们现在真正查看修订数据时,这就是我们所做的,我们查看修订数据,很明显,我们经历了显著的劳动力。

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But when they actually look at the revisions now, and that's what we do. We look at the revisions, it pretty much clear, it's very clear that we had a significant labor.

主持人:我们已经走出了困境。

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>> We already came out of it

Mike Wilson:我们已经走出了困境,这非常好。

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>> and we've come out of it, which is very good.

顺便说一下,最好的证实是,标普500指数中位数公司的盈利增长现在又回到了接近10%。

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And by the way, the best confirmation of this is that the earnings growth now for the median company in the S&P is actually growing again close to 10%.

这是我们四年以来看到的最好增长。

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That's the best growth we've seen in four years.

所以有证据。

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So there's evidence,

主持人:但你仍然指望劳动力数据滞后,所以美联储会降息,他们不会关注你现在正在关注的事情。

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>> but you are counting on the labor data still being lagged for why the the Fed will cut rates that they're not going to pay attention to the things you're watching right now.

Mike Wilson:没错。

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>> That's right.

嗯,我认为他们会注意到,如果你想要私人经济复苏,我们都想要,对吧?

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Well, I think what they'll notice is that if you want a recovery in the private economy, which we all do, right?

我们不希望只有这种两极分化的经济。

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We don't want to just have this bifurcated economy.

他们会意识到,我们确实需要降息来解决经济的金融杠杆部分,无论是住房、消费品还是低端消费者,我们都需要。

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They they'll realize that we need we do need rate cuts for the financial leverage part of the economy, whether it's housing, you know, consumer goods, the lower-end consumer, we need that.

所以,美联储在这种策略中的风险当然是,我们是否会因此出现资产泡沫?

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And so the risk in this strategy, of course, for the Fed to think about is do we have an asset bubble then, right?

因为如果他们在良好的盈利周期中降息,我们是否会得到一个膨胀的股市?

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Because if they cut into that good earning cycle, do we get kind of an inflated stock market?

我们的观点是肯定的。

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Our view is yes

主持人:资产通胀,人们仍然担心大通胀,总的来说,人们仍然担心3%的通胀。

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>> asset inflation and people are still worried about big inflation the the uh the overall term inflation people are still we're 3%.

Mike Wilson:滞后数据在那里,在你看来,这会表明什么,这不是问题,还是有问题?

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>> The lagging numbers there it would indicate what in in your view that it's not a problem or it is a

嗯,我的意思是,这有点像一个特点。

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>> well I mean it's sort of a sort of a feature okay quite frankly like in other words if and we said this last time I mean if we don't get inflation next year reacelerating then our call is going to be wrong.

坦率地说,换句话说,如果我们明年通胀没有再次加速,那么我们的预测就会是错的。

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In other words, and accelerating inflation is good for company earnings in most for the companies that have been lagging it, but it's bad if the Fed is is raising rates for the stock market.

换句话说,加速的通胀对大多数滞后公司的盈利是好的,但如果美联储为股市加息,那就不好了。

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This time around, right, we have a Fed that's not going to be raising rates.

这一次,我们有一个不会加息的美联储。

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I don't know how much they're going to cut next year, but it's unlikely they're raising rates and they're probably going to add liquidity to the balance sheet at a time when when ex when accelerating inflation is driving better earnings growth.

我不知道他们明年会降息多少,但他们不太可能加息,而且他们可能会在通胀加速推动更好的盈利增长的时候向资产负债表注入流动性。

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That's a very good setup for equities typically.

这通常对股市来说是一个非常好的局面。

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>> And you know what else?

主持人:你知道还有什么吗?

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Hasset was on yesterday and he said the the way we administration handles the affordability issue is by wage gains.

哈塞特(Kevin Hassett)昨天说,政府处理可负担性问题的方式是通过工资增长。

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They they I think they've given prices you know energy prices can come down, food prices can come down but in general inflation doesn't come down unless you got serious uh overall problems uh in the economy.

他们,我认为他们已经给出了价格,你知道能源价格可以下降,食品价格可以下降,但总的来说,除非经济出现严重的整体问题,否则通胀不会下降。

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So how do you deal with affordability?

那么你如何处理可负担性?

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Wage growth has to be faster than than the inflation

工资增长必须快于通胀。

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>> and productivity

Mike Wilson:和生产力。

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>> and productivity.

主持人:你认为这可能吗?

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And you think that's possible?

Mike Wilson:嗯,是的。

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>> Well, yeah.

我的意思是,这就是政策变化试图做的,对吧?

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I mean that's what the the policy change is trying to do right is that

主持人:哪个政策?

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>> which policy the big BBB

Mike Wilson:所有财政政策。

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>> all of the fiscal policy let's think about this so they're trying to reduce consumption okay increase investment through the big beautiful bill and through tariffs that reconfiguration of how the economy grows should lead to better productivity the big one that there's debate on which I don't think is really that debatable is immigration right so this you know legal immigration unfettered immigration has really suppressed real wage growth to your point for the middle income for the lower income workers And then if you think about AI suppressing wage growth perhaps at the upper end that that's a nice rebalancing potentially on the on the real wage.

让我们想想这个,他们试图减少消费,通过“大美法案”和关税增加投资,这种经济增长方式的重新配置应该会带来更好的生产力。

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Mike Wilson: all of the fiscal policy let's think about this so they're trying to reduce consumption okay increase investment through the big beautiful bill and through tariffs that reconfiguration of how the economy grows should lead to better productivity the big one that there's debate on which I don't think is really that debatable is immigration right so this you know legal immigration unfettered immigration has really suppressed real wage growth to your point for the middle income for the lower income workers And then if you think about AI suppressing wage growth perhaps at the upper end that that's a nice rebalancing potentially on the on the real wage.

一个有争议但我觉得没什么好争议的大问题是移民,对吧?

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Mike Wilson: all of the fiscal policy let's think about this so they're trying to reduce consumption okay increase investment through the big beautiful bill and through tariffs that reconfiguration of how the economy grows should lead to better productivity the big one that there's debate on which I don't think is really that debatable is immigration right so this you know legal immigration unfettered immigration has really suppressed real wage growth to your point for the middle income for the lower income workers And then if you think about AI suppressing wage growth perhaps at the upper end that that's a nice rebalancing potentially on the on the real wage.

所以,你知道,合法移民和不受限制的移民确实抑制了中低收入工人的实际工资增长。

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Mike Wilson: all of the fiscal policy let's think about this so they're trying to reduce consumption okay increase investment through the big beautiful bill and through tariffs that reconfiguration of how the economy grows should lead to better productivity the big one that there's debate on which I don't think is really that debatable is immigration right so this you know legal immigration unfettered immigration has really suppressed real wage growth to your point for the middle income for the lower income workers And then if you think about AI suppressing wage growth perhaps at the upper end that that's a nice rebalancing potentially on the on the real wage.

然后如果你考虑到AI可能会抑制高端的工资增长,那可能是一个很好的实际工资再平衡。

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Mike Wilson: all of the fiscal policy let's think about this so they're trying to reduce consumption okay increase investment through the big beautiful bill and through tariffs that reconfiguration of how the economy grows should lead to better productivity the big one that there's debate on which I don't think is really that debatable is immigration right so this you know legal immigration unfettered immigration has really suppressed real wage growth to your point for the middle income for the lower income workers And then if you think about AI suppressing wage growth perhaps at the upper end that that's a nice rebalancing potentially on the on the real wage.

看,这并不能保证会奏效,但我喜欢这种策略,作为一种重新平衡经济的方式。

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Look this is this is not a for I mean it's not going to guarantee it's going to work but I like that strategy as a way to rebalance decay economy.

科技巨头投资与市场趋势

坦率地说,我不知道我们还有什么其他策略。

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And quite frankly I don't know what other strategy we have.

我的意思是,迈克·威尔逊正在谈论那个“大美法案”基本上说:“我们将减少或激励减少消费,并增加或激励增加投资。”

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I mean, Mike Wilson is talking about how the one big beautiful bill essentially said, "We're going to decrease or incentivize the decrease of consumption and increase or incentivize the increase of investment,

这正是我们一直在这些科技公司身上看到的,它们一直在投资资本支出。

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which is exactly what we've been seeing across these tech companies that have been investing in capex.

我们知道自2023年以来,GDP的50%是由于科技巨头的资本支出投资。

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We know that 50% of GDP since 2023 has been because of big tech capex investments.

如果没有发生,我们就不会有今天的市场。

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If that didn't happen, we would not have the market that we have today.

我们就不会以我们现在的方式增长。

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We would not be growing the way that we're growing.

今天,微软继续在印度投资175亿美元,特别是在主权AI和AI基础设施方面。

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It continues today with Microsoft $17.5 billion investment in India particularly on sovereign AI and AI infrastructure.

我的意思是,我认为这只会继续下去。

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I mean I I think this is just going to continue.

你会看到更多这些科技公司说,我们需要继续在全球范围内投资,仅仅因为:A,这是AI带来的一生一次的机会;B,“大美法案”正在激励他们继续投资,而不是以任何有意义的方式停止。

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You're going to see a lot more of these tech companies say that we need to continue investing across the entire world simply because a this is the opportunity of lifetime with AI. B the one big beautiful bill is creating the incentive for them to continue investing and not stop in any meaningful way.

除此之外,我们从这些科技公司看到的另一件事是,他们持续关注如何提高利润率。

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On top of that, you know, the other thing that we're seeing from from these tech companies is the continued focus on where their margins can enhance.

埃德·亚德尼(Ed Yardeni)昨天发表了看法。

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Ed Yardani came out yesterday.

我真的对他的观点感到惊讶。

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I really was surprised by his take.

他分析股市已经有40年了。

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He's been analyzing the stock market for like 40 years now.

他说2026年要减持(underweight: 投资组合中某类资产的比例低于市场基准)MAG 7(Magnificent Seven: 科技七巨头,包括苹果、微软、Alphabet、亚马逊、英伟达、特斯拉和Meta)。

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He said go underweight the MAG 7 for 2026.

我的直觉反应是,我不同意。

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And my gut reaction is I disagree.

我非常惊讶他会这么说。

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I I was very surprised that he said that.

我认为他这么说的原因有两个。

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I think the reason he came out and said that was well there's two reasons.

更明显的原因是,MAG 7涨得太多了,你需要一个新的想法,而那个新的想法很可能会跑赢MAG 7,尽管亚马逊今年迄今上涨了1%。

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the s the the the the more obvious reason is that the Max 7 have run too much in that you you know you need a new idea and that new idea uh likely will outperform the Max 7 although Amazon's up like 1% year to date.

所以我想,你知道,Meta在下跌后几乎没有上涨,我仍然认为“富者更富”的理论非常完整。

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So I'm like you know meta barely up now after the fall like I still think the rich get richer in that thesis is is is very intact.

坦率地说,我认为他这么说的更愤世嫉俗的原因只是为了吸引注意力。

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The more cynical reason why I think he came out and said that quite frankly is just for attention.

我的意思是,你知道,当你是一名分析师时,你需要新的想法来让人们对你感到兴奋。

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I mean, you know, when you're an analyst, you need new ideas to to get people to get excited about you.

埃德·亚德尼是我非常尊重的人。

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And Ed Yardani is someone I respect very deeply.

所以这让我很疑惑。

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So, it left me wondering.

就像:“老兄,你过去七年一直看好这些股票。

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It's like, dude, you've been bullish these names for the past seven years now.

2026年是看跌的一年,而我们即将看到所有资本支出的投资回报率(ROI)。”

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2026 is the year to get bearish when we're about to see the ROI from all their capex.

我的意思是,你为什么会提出这样的观点,说:“哦,减持MAG 7,增持标普493?”

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I mean, like, why else would you come out with this take that says, "Oh, go underweight the MAG 7 and go long the S&P 493."

就像我们知道标普493没有资产负债表,没有股票回购,没有净收入,没有自由现金流,它们没有任何MAG 7拥有的东西。

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It's like we know the S&P 4 and 93 don't have the balance sheets, don't have the buybacks, don't have the net income, don't have the free cash flow, they don't have anything that the MAX 7 have.

它们是好公司,但它们不是MAG 7。

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They're good companies, but they're not the MAX 7.

所以,有一些知名人士出来说这些话,这非常非常奇怪。

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So, it was just very, very weird that you had some prominent people coming out.

我认为由于他在投资界的影响力,你会看到很多人,就像你在2024年底看到的那样,说明年的交易不会是MAG 7,因为他们正在寻找,你知道,去年是小盘股,小盘股表现不错,但MAG 7今年表现也不差。

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And I think because of his influence in the investing community, you're going to get a lot of people just like you had at the end of 2024 say the next year's trade will not be the MAG7 because they're looking, you know, last year was small caps, which small caps have done well, but you know, the MAG7 haven't done horrible this year.

特别是如果你在4月份低点买入的话。

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Um, especially if you bought at the April lows.

所以我认为你会看到更多人试图寻找那个新的想法。

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And so I I think you're going to get a lot more people trying to look for that new idea.

我仍然相信最好的想法仍然是MAG 7。

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I continue to believe the best idea is still the Mac 7.

我保留在年底改变这个看法的权利。

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And I reserve the right to change that opinion as we get towards the end of the year.

试图深入研究埃德的理论,看看他是否在谈论一些真正严重的事情,这些事情应该让人们担心MAG 7。

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trying to look deep into Ed's thesis and see is there something really serious that he's talking about that should concern people around the Mac 7.

但每次你认真对待这个论点时,你都会回到MAG 7的事实上,而且看起来它们不会很快放缓。

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But every time you actually take that argument seriously, you just go back to the fact that it's the Mac 7 and it looks like they're not going to be slowing down anytime soon.

市场开盘与公司表现

好的,距离市场开盘还有10秒。

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All right, we got 10 seconds until the market opens.

市场开盘前的最后一件事,这是我们的总统对美国经济的看法。

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Last thing before we open up the markets, this is our president on how the economy is doing in the United States of America.

主持人:很好。

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>> Pretty good.

但我想谈谈国内经济,先生。

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But I do want to talk about the economy, sir, here at home.

我想知道你会给经济打多少分。

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And and I I wonder what grade you would give a economy.

总统:A+,A++。

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>> A+ A+ plus.

主持人:嗯,这很有趣。

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>> Well, it's interesting.

总统:很好。

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>> Pretty good.

好的,股市,感谢大家的到来,现在开盘了。

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All right. The stock market, thank you everybody for being here, is now open.

随着A++的钟声响起,我们回到了市场开盘节目。

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with an A++ plus bell as we are back for the market open.

感谢大家的到来,再次为昨天缺席道歉。

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Thank you everybody for being here and again I'm sorry for missing it yesterday.

感谢所有发消息祝我早日康复的人。

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Thank you everyone who reached out with all the messages to get well better.

真的非常感谢。

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Really really meant a lot.

很高兴能回来,很高兴能开盘。

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Um happy to be back and happy to open up this market.

好的,让我们开始吧。

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All right let's get into it.

英伟达184.97美元,当天下跌约0.31%。

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Nvidia 18497 that's down about 31% on the day.

英伟达昨天盘后有一些好消息。

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Nvidia got some good news after hours yesterday.

市场并没有给予任何溢价,盘后涨到190美元,但仍然受到打击。

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Markets really not giving it any what premium got up to 190 after hours but still getting hit.

Grab下跌2%。

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Grab 2% down.

我真的觉得这很愚蠢。

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I really think this is stupid.

5.08美元。

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508.

如果跌破5美元,那对我来说会很有趣。

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但它下跌了1.45%。

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But that's down 1.45%.

我确实认为空头现在更多地控制了这只股票,因为它受到了打击,而且在过去一个月里一直在受到打击。

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I do think the shorts are more in control of the stock now as well as the stock is getting hit and it's basically been getting hit for the past month.

纳斯达克100指数下跌约0.27%。

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The Q's are down about 0.27%.

Nebia下跌3%。

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Nebi is down 3% right here.

INE仍然下跌约2%。

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INE still down about 2% on the day.

Rocket Lab昨天突破50美元非常重要。

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Rocket Lab Rocket Lab breaking 50 yesterday was really important.

我们今天早上收到了Rocket Lab关于其Hungry Hippo(火箭实验室的一个创新有效载荷整流罩)计划的更新,该计划使他们更清晰地看到了中子星发射的路径。

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We had an update this morning on Rocket Lab uh around their hungry hippo initiative which ended up getting them clearer a much clearer path to the neutron launch.

所以我们稍后会更多地讨论这个问题,但这是今天早上的更新,这就是为什么这只股票在盘前得到了一些提振。

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So we'll talk more about that in a second, but that was the update this morning and that's why that stock got a little bit of a boost in the pre-market.

Carvana,现在在标普500指数中,下跌约1.5%。

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Carvana, which is now in the S&P 500, that's down about 1.5%.

这只股票的表现优于所有MAG 7。

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This is outperforming all of the Max 7.

说到表现优于MAG 7的股票,Carvana在过去五年里表现优于所有股票2到10倍。

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Speaking of names that are outperforming the Max 7, Carvana has outperformed all of them by two to 10x over the past 5 years.

所以这只股票的表现一直非常出色。

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So that name has just been pretty incredible.

Duolingo,哇,又回到了200美元以上。

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Dualingo right there. Wow, back above 200.

我昨天甚至没看到。

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I didn't even see that yesterday.

好的,Duolingo现在达到了210美元,目前是203美元。

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Okay, so Dolingo hit 210 right now at 203.

BMR 34.74美元,下跌3%。

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BMR 3474 that's down 3%.

Palantir达到了184美元,现在跌到180美元。

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Pouncer did hit 184 that's down to 180.

Meta受到打击了吗?

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Is Meta getting hit?

Meta受到打击,下跌1%。

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Meta is getting hit down 1%.

昨天达到675美元。

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Hit 675 yesterday.

不确定为什么现在下跌1%。

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Not sure why it's down 1% right here.

他们发布了关于前沿模型的消息,或者至少彭博社报道了Meta可能推出的前沿模型。

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They came out with that news about the Frontier model or at least Bloomberg is reporting a Frontier model potentially by Meta.

不确定为什么这是利空,但市场不喜欢它。

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Not sure why that's bearish, but the street doesn't like it.

英伟达仍然下跌约1%。

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Nvidia still down about 1%.

标普下跌0.08%。

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S&P down 0.08.

SoFi下跌1.3%。

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SoFi down 1.3.

SoFi不幸未能进入标普500指数。

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SoFi, unfortunately, did not make the S&P 500.

明年SoFi和Reddit很可能会进入,但今年没有机会。

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Next year, most likely will happen for SoFi and Reddit, but this year was not the chance for it.

Reddit 2.32美元,下跌约1.3%。

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Red right there, 232, that's down about 1.3%.

亚马逊,就像Grab一样,我认为这些股票的价格走势非常非常荒谬。

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Amazon as well, just like Grab, I think some of the price action on this stuff is really, really ridiculous.

我认为亚马逊没有理由以这些水平交易。

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I think there's no reason for Amazon to be trading at these levels. I really don't.

有时候,在明年买入那些受挫的股票,你知道,是获得更多不对称回报的方式。

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And uh sometimes buying up the beatup names going into next year, you know, is the way that you get some more asymmetric returns.

尽管短期内买入它们很糟糕,但亚马逊在那些财报发布后不应该在225美元。

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Even though it sucks to buy them in the short term, Amazon should not be at $225 after those earnings.

但尽管如此,它从上周或两周前的260美元受到了打击。

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But nonetheless, that one's getting hit from 260 last week or or two weeks ago.

Nebia现在是97.50美元,仍然下跌2.8%。

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Nebia's right. They're at 9750. That's still down 2.8.

Robinhood 13.4美元。

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Robin Hood 134.

如果能守住130美元区间,我将非常高兴地结束这一年。

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If we hold up the 130s, I will be very happy to end the year.

Robinhood正在进入印度尼西亚,他们收购了一家新的经纪公司,我认为这非常非常利好。

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Robin Hood is entering Indonesia as they've acquired a new brokerage, which I think is super super bullish.

他们不会在年底进入新加坡。

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They're not entering Singapore towards the end of the year.

你知道,他们在年初说他们会进入新加坡。

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You know, they said in the beginning of the year they would be entering Singapore.

我想他们在新加坡的交易没有成功,但他们仍在全球扩张。

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I guess whatever deal they had for Singapore didn't go through, but they are still expanding globally.

这是我不知道弗拉德(Vlad Tenev)能否在2025年底前完成的事情。

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That was the one thing I didn't know if Vlad would actually be able to get done by the end of 2025.

看起来他们正在实现这一点。

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And it looks like they are making that happen.

新加坡没有发生,但印度尼西亚将发生,因为他们在2025年底前收购了一家经纪公司。

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Singapore is not happening, but Indonesia will be happening as they acquired a brokerage going into the end of 2025.

所以,看起来他们将在2026年获得另外2000万客户。

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So, it seems like they're going to get another 20 million customers going into 2026.

Palantir现在是180美元,BitMine是34.84美元。

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Pounder right there at 180 BitMine at 34.84.

Oscar在哪里?

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Where is Oscar?

Oscar现在是16.83美元。

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Oscar's at 1683.

今天这只股票实际上涨了一点。

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That one's actually up a little bit on the day.

大多数股票都是下跌的。

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Most stocks are red.

保险股今天获得了一些安全感。

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Insurance names are getting a little bit of safety today.

Amcor昨天是45.50美元。

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Amcor at 4550 yesterday.

Amcor回到了44美元。

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Amcor back at 44.

我认为即使守住40美元区间对Amcor来说也是不可思议的。

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Even holding the 40s, I think, is incredible for Amcort.

特斯拉也守住了430美元区间。

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Tesla also holding the 430s.

这很酷。

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It's pretty cool.

上周是450美元。

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This was at 450 last week.

礼来上涨。

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Eli Liy's up.

ELF小幅上涨。

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ELF is up a little bit.

通用汽车和福特上涨。

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GM and Ford are up.

微软试图回到490美元,这很好。

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Microsoft trying to get back up to 490, which is nice.

上周在《The Information》报道后是465美元。

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This was at 465 last week after that report from the information.

AppLovin,看看那个。

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Applovin, look at that.

试图回到700美元。

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Trying to get back up to 700o.

这还不错。

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is not too horrible.

Rubrik的财报非常出色。

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Rubric uh did have amazing earnings.

如果你在70美元买入,你做得非常好。

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If you bought this thing back at 70, you've done very well.

90.41美元。

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90.41.

Adobe本周过得非常糟糕。

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Adobe's been having a hell of a week.

明天对他们的财报来说非常重要。

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Uh tomorrow is going to be very important for their earnings.

Oracle也是一样,现在是220美元。

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Same thing with Oracle, which is now at 220.

Oracle一度达到185美元。

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Oracle got all the way to 185.

我觉得Oracle的财报会大涨,因为他们会提高RPO(剩余履约义务)预期,而且这与OpenAI无关,他们只会显示来自另一个AI模型的云计算需求增加,这个模型正在向他们付费。

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I feel like Oracle is going to pop on earnings because they're going to increase their RPO estimates and it's going to have nothing to do with OpenAI and they're just going to show increased cloud computing demand from another AI model that's paying them.

也许是Anthropic,但我不知道是否足以在Oracle上进行财报交易,考虑到他们债务的担忧。

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maybe anthropic, but I don't know if it's enough to take an earnings play on Oracle just given the fear of of of their debt.

这肯定让人们对他们的支出承诺感到有点害怕。

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That's definitely getting people a bit more scared about their their spending commitments.

Cipher 1.2%上涨。

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Cipher right there, that's up 1.2%.

Terawulf小幅上涨。

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Terowolf's up a little bit.

Big Bear下跌约1.4%。

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Big Bear is down about 1.4.

量子股表现不错。

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Uh the Quantum names have had a pretty good recovery.

D-Wave两周前几乎跌破18美元,现在回到了27美元。

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D-Wave was almost I think below like $18 two weeks ago. Now back to 27.

所以今天下跌2%,但过去一周仍然是上涨的。

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So that one's down 2% on the day, but still green um over the past week.

然后沃尔玛正在更换首席执行官。

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And then Walmart is replacing their CEO.

那只股票113.63美元,基本上处于历史高点。

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That stock 11363 basically at an all-time high.

沃尔玛市值950亿美元。

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$95 billion market cap on Walmart.

历史最高点是116美元。

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116 was the alltime high.

所以他们今天以113美元的价格交易,略低于历史高点。

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So they're trading just below that at 113 on the day.

Robinhood在印度尼西亚的扩张与加密货币市场

Over Kaser说:“我是印度尼西亚人。

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Uh over Kaser says, "I'm Indonesian.

Hood将通过加密货币在这里赚很多钱。

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Hood. We'll be getting a lot of money here through crypto.

很多印度尼西亚人交易加密货币。”

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A lot of Indian Indonesian people trade crypto."

是的,印度尼西亚的人口比美国多,这很疯狂。

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Yeah, Indonesia's population is greater than the United States, which is crazy.

东南亚的加密货币,特别是在印度尼西亚,根据我周末宣布这个消息时做的一些研究,这是一个大问题。

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And crypto in Southeast Asia, especially in Indonesia, from some of the research I did over the weekend when this was announced on Sunday night, is a big deal.

你可以理解为什么,对吧?

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And you can understand why, right?

当地货币不一定是最容易交易的,肯定不是最容易进行不同商业交易的。

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Local currencies are not necessarily the easiest to trade, definitely not the easiest to transact different uh business deals in.

所以加密货币最终成为一种替代品。

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And so crypto ends up becoming a an alternative.

所以我认为从这个角度来看,Hood进入印度尼西亚非常有意义。

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So I think from that perspective, it makes a lot of sense for Hood to go to Indonesia.

根据他们收购的经纪公司,他们将获得1900万客户。

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And they're going to be capturing 19 million customers as per the the brokerage that they acquired.

这应该会大大增加总的托管资产。

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This should be adding a lot more to the overall assets under custody.

Meta现在受到打击。

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Meta getting hit right here.

下跌2%。

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Down 2%.

Meta现在是657美元。

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657 on Meta.

哦,你说的对。

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Oh, you're right.

印度尼西亚有2.8亿人口。

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Indonesia's 280 million.

是的,你说的对。

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Yeah. Yeah, you're right.

美国有3.3亿。

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America's 330.

我以为印度尼西亚有3.5亿人口。

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I thought Indonesia was 350 million.

是的,你说的对。

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Yeah, you're right.

2.8亿。

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280 million.

仍然与美国的人口规模相当。

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Um, still rivaling the size. 283 million in Indonesia. United States at 330.

我的意思是,Robinhood正在有意义地追求一个巨大的市场。

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I mean, rivaling the size of the United States. So, I think it's a mass mass market that Robinood is meaningfully going after.

我很高兴他们兑现了年底前的国际承诺。

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I'm just happy they followed through with their international commitments by the end of the year.

我没想到他们会做到,因为他们一直在处理这么多不同的事情,公司会说一些话,但有时他们不会兑现。

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So, I didn't think they were going to just because they've been working on so many different, you know, companies say stuff, but sometimes they don't follow through on it.

如果他们没有做到,我也不会责怪他们,因为他们今年做了很多事情。

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Uh, and I wouldn't have given them any flak if they didn't because they've done so much this year.

事实上,他们在12月底兑现了,并说:“不,我们仍在国际扩张。”

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The fact that they actually came through at the end of December and said, "Nope, we are still expanding internationally I thought was pretty impressive."

我觉得这相当令人印象深刻。

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S&P going green slightly on the day 68360.

标普今天小幅上涨到683.60点。

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Google at 312, that's down about.3%.

谷歌312美元,下跌约0.3%。

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Reddit's still down 1.4.

Reddit仍然下跌1.4%。

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Netflix getting a little bit little bit of green basically flat at 9670.

Netflix小幅上涨,基本持平于96.70美元。

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Where's Bitcoin?

比特币在哪里?

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I haven't looked at Bitcoin honestly for like the past two days.

老实说,我过去两天没看比特币。

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90. Okay.

90美元。

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I'd uh I'd rather it be 90 than back in the low 80s.

我宁愿它在90美元,而不是回到80美元低位。

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It peaked at 93 I think last Friday.

上周五它似乎达到了93美元的峰值。

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90,500 on Bitcoin.

比特币90500美元。

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Galaxy did get a $60 price target by our boy Devin Ryan.

Galaxy获得了我们的朋友德文·瑞安(Devin Ryan)给出的60美元目标价。

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I didn't expect that.

我没想到。

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Uh Devin Ryan is an analyst I have a lot of respect for.

德文·瑞安是我非常尊重的一位分析师。

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I didn't read his report yet.

我还没读他的报告。

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I have his report.

我得仔细看看。

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I have to go through it.

但60美元,我想他选择Galaxy作为所有比特币矿工中的AI HBC选择。

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But 60 bucks, I guess his uh AI HBC choice out of all the Bitcoin miners was Galaxy.

所以Galaxy上涨3.12%,德文·瑞安先生给出了60美元的目标价。

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So Galaxy right there up 3.12% with a $60 target from Mr. Mr. Devon Ryan.

Hood在印度尼西亚销售加密货币是否需要立法?

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Does Hood need legislation in Indonesia for crypto sales?

老实说,我不知道。

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Honestly, I have no idea.

我没有深入研究收购案,但我相信他们需要完成的任何立法或法规,他们可能已经考虑了很久。

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I I I've not gone through the acquisition in such depth, but I'm sure whatever legislation or, you know, regulations they need to get done, they probably thought about it for a long time.

我只是认为国际扩张为国际扩张打开了闸门。

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I just think getting the international expansion opens up the floodgates for expanding internationally.

一旦你在一个地区获得成功,他们希望能在这个地区的其他地方也获得成功。

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Like once you get it in one part of a region, they can hopefully get it in other parts of the region.

所以问题只是他们现在能多快完成这个。

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So question is just how fast now will they be able to get this done?

Iren几周前进行了资本募集。

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I ran right here. They did their capital raise a couple weeks ago.

市场最初不喜欢它,一度跌破40美元,现在又回到了46美元。

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Street didn't like it initially. fell below 40 for a hot second, right back to 46.

看起来市场对他们募集约20亿美元还算满意。

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Seems like the street is kind of okay with them raising about $2 billion right here.

Nebia仍然下跌约2.4%。

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Nebia still down about 2.4.

Nebas今天收购了一些土地。

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Nebas acquired some land today.

他们在哪里收购的?

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Um, where did they acquire it?

他们在密苏里州收购了398英亩土地。

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They acquired it in uh, Missouri, 398 acres.

这是一个AI数据中心园区,可以扩展到8到10栋建筑,提供800兆瓦的容量。

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It's an AI data center campus that could scale to 8 to 10 buildings and deliver 800 megawatts of capacity.

这将是Nebas在美国第一个完全自建自营的数据中心。

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This will be the first data center in the US than Nebas fully built and operates itself.

所以他们今天正式在密苏里州和新泽西州收购了更多土地。

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So they officially acquired some more land in Missouri along with New Jersey.

398英亩,今天早上宣布的。

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398 acres which was announced this morning.

ONQ回到了54美元。

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ONQ that's back at 54.

这东西不是低于30美元吗?

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This thing was wasn't this thing like below 30 or something?

它在11月达到了38美元。

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This thing got to No, it got to 38 in November.

即使是那些没有大规模增长或盈利的股票,也随着市场复苏了。

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Like even names that really don't have massive massive like growth or earnings, they've recovered with the market.

没有回到历史高点,但仍然恢复得相当不错。

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Not to their all-time highs, but they've still recovered pretty decently.

所以你看到了一定程度的广度和整合正在发生,这还不错。

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And so you see you're seeing a decent level of breath and consolidation that's been happening that's not been horrible to see.

AMD现在是220美元,英伟达是184.79美元。

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AMD right there at 220 and then Nvidia at 18479.

Charlie说:“我在密苏里州。

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Charlie says, "I'm in Missouri.

我们到处都有数据中心。”

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We got data center spots all over."

“大美法案”确实大规模地激励了数据中心的建设。

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The big beautiful bill really did incentivize the building of data centers at scale.

特别是他们修改了分区法。

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Um especially with the zoning law changes they made.

所以密苏里州获得这些是合理的。

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So it makes sense that Missouri is getting that.

哈塞特正在直播。

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Hasset is live.

好的,我们去听听哈塞特说什么,他很可能是我们下一任美联储主席。

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Okay, let's go to Hasset who likely is going to be our next Fed chair.

我们将看看特朗普是否会在年底前宣布,但这将是一个大新闻。

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We'll see if Trump announces that by the end of the year or not, but that's going to be a big one.

我没有看到哈塞特直播。

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Uh I don't see Hasset live.

我知道他昨天直播了。

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I know he was live yesterday.

现在没有看到他直播,但当我们看到他时,我们会把他拉上来,看看他在说什么。

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Don't see him live right now, but when we do see him, we'll pull it up and see what he is saying.

顺便说一下,10年期国债收益率是4.153%。

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The 10ear, by the way, is where are we at? 4.153.

所以它仍然有点激进,高于4%。

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So, that one's still a little aggressive above 4%.

这不是我们希望在10年期国债上看到的。

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Not something we want to see on the 10ear.

4.153%。

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4.153.

几周前它还低于4%。

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This thing was freaking below 4% a couple weeks ago.

所以信贷市场肯定在说:“嘿,别太快。”

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So, the credit market's definitely saying, "Hey, not too fast."

关于10年期国债的烦人之处在于,降息尚未正式到来,或者抱歉,降息已经发生,但利率尚未有意义地下降。

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The thing about the the 10-year, which is annoying, is that the rate cuts have not officially come down or sorry, the rate cuts have happened, but the the the rates have not meaningfully come down, interest rates.

所以,收益率并没有反映10年期国债。

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So, it's like the yields aren't reflecting the 10-year.

10年期国债收益率没有反映利率下降。

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The 10-year yield is not reflecting interest rates coming down.

这只是表明投资者缺乏信心,即使美联储正在降息,他们也实际购买债券。

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And that just shows a lack of confidence from investors to actually buy up bonds even though the Fed is is lowering rates.

这是Rocket Lab的新闻标题。

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This was the Rocket Lab headline.

Rocket Lab在首次中子星发射的道路上取得了重大里程碑。

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Rocket Lab clears significant milestone on its path to its first neutron launch launch on uh Rocket Lab's neutron launch vehicles innovative Hungry Hippoto captive fairing has successfully completed qualification testing and is on route to Virginia for Neutron's first launch.

Rocket Lab的中子星运载火箭创新的Hungry Hippo(火箭实验室的一个创新有效载荷整流罩)捕获式整流罩已成功完成资格测试,并正在运往弗吉尼亚州,准备中子星的首次发射。

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Hungry Hippo is a captive payload fairing that stays attached to the rocket's first stage through launch and landing.

Hungry Hippo是一种捕获式有效载荷整流罩,在发射和着陆过程中始终附着在火箭的第一级。

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Instead of dropping its fairing like traditional rockets, Neutron opens the halves to to deploy the second stage and payload.

与传统火箭抛弃整流罩不同,中子星会打开两半来部署第二级和有效载荷。

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So that is uh I think one of the reasons Rocket Lab got a bit of a a boost in the pre-markets.

所以,我认为这是Rocket Lab在盘前获得一些提振的原因之一。

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5124 almost hitting 52 right here as Neutron becomes closer than expected.

51.24美元,几乎触及52美元,因为中子星比预期更接近发射。

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What is wrong with SoFi, dude?

SoFi怎么了?

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Almost below 27.

几乎跌破27美元。

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Yes, I do think we're getting jolts today.

是的,我确实认为我们今天会收到JOLTS(Job Openings and Labor Turnover Survey: 职位空缺和劳动力流动调查)数据。

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Let me make sure.

让我确认一下。

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But I think in about 18 minutes we should be getting jolts which also could be the reason the market is waiting for some data.

但我认为大约18分钟后我们应该会收到JOLTS数据,这可能也是市场等待一些数据的原因。

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Yes, in about 18 minutes we will get jolts.

是的,大约18分钟后我们将收到JOLTS数据。

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Probably is not going to be the best.

可能不会是最好的。

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Well, the jolts is for September though.

嗯,JOLTS是9月份的数据。

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Oh no, we get up September and October, right?

哦不,我们有9月和10月的数据,对吧?

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Okay, we're definitely getting September.

好的,我们肯定会收到9月份的数据。

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It says we're going to get October.

它说我们会收到10月份的数据。

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I don't know if we're actually getting October.

我不知道我们是否真的会收到10月份的数据。

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We're not getting PPI for October.

我们没有收到10月份的PPI(生产者物价指数)数据。

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The BLS came out yesterday said no PPI for October.

劳工统计局(BLS)昨天表示没有10月份的PPI数据。

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So, I mean, you can't have inflation if they don't give us the data.

所以,我的意思是,如果他们不给我们数据,你就不能有通胀。

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So, I wonder if we're going to get jolts for October.

所以我想知道我们是否会收到10月份的JOLTS数据。

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So far, right there, 2710 down 1.8%.

到目前为止,27.10美元,下跌1.8%。

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Jolts are job openings in America.

JOLTS是美国的职位空缺数据。

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So, how many jobs are open?

所以,有多少职位空缺?

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And then, you know, the Fed can kind of make a decision on if there's less jobs open, should we be easing monetary policy to stimulate the economy to incentivize employers to hire more?

然后,你知道,美联储可以根据职位空缺是否减少来做出决定,我们是否应该放松货币政策以刺激经济,鼓励雇主雇用更多人?

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We're robbing it right there at 13560 down.36%.

Robinhood现在是135.60美元,下跌0.36%。

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SoFi did complete its dilution yesterday, but that news was pretty baked in for the past 72 hours.

SoFi昨天完成了稀释,但这个消息在过去72小时内已经基本被消化了。

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So, and there they completed the dilution at 2750.

他们以27.50美元完成了稀释。

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By the way, shout out to uh data driven investing.

顺便说一下,向“数据驱动投资”致敬。

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He got a job at SoFi, which is absolutely crazy.

他在SoFi找到了一份工作,这简直太疯狂了。

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I mean, that is so cool.

我的意思是,这太酷了。

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He's going to be working for the office of the CFO.

他将在首席财务官办公室工作。

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So, unfortunately, he will have to shut down his uh Twitter account and YouTube account, but um and he won't be able to talk about the stock anymore.

所以,不幸的是,他将不得不关闭他的Twitter账户和YouTube账户,而且他将无法再谈论这只股票了。

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But that's super cool, dude.

但这太酷了。

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I mean, I I I did not expect SoFi to actually reach out to a retail investor.

我的意思是,我没想到SoFi会真正联系一个散户投资者。

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And for anyone who's followed Data Driven's work, I mean, his analysis on SoFi's financials is like I mean, I I have not seen anyone analyze the numbers the way he has.

对于任何关注过“数据驱动”工作的人来说,我的意思是,他对SoFi财务状况的分析,我从未见过有人像他那样分析这些数字。

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And he has a legit job at the company, which is crazy.

而且他在公司有一份正式工作,这很疯狂。

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So unfortunately we are losing a really really prominent voice in the retail investor.

所以不幸的是,我们正在失去散户投资者中一个非常非常重要的声音。

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Part part of the reason I bought SoFi years ago or even continue to hold SoFi is because of his analysis and so unfortunately he's leaving the retail investor community.

我几年前购买SoFi,甚至继续持有SoFi的部分原因就是因为他的分析,所以不幸的是他正在离开散户投资者社区。

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But super awesome for him to actually get a job at the uh at the company.

但他能在公司找到一份工作真是太棒了。

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This proves there are some jobs out there.

这证明外面确实有一些工作。

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That is true.

这是真的。

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This does prove there are some some jobs out there.

他泄露了太多信息,所以他们决定把他留在SoFi。

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He leaked too much, so they decided to keep him in SoFi.

你知道,我无法想象这不是他们考虑过的事情之一。

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You know, I I I can't imagine that's not one of the things they thought about.

就像:“老兄,这个人把我们的业务分析得这么好,我们不如把他招进公司。”

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It's like, dude, this guy is analyzing our business so well, we might as well just bring him in the company, navigate it like that.

我们确实有哈塞特的一段引言。

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Uh, we do have a quote from Hasset.

哈塞特回答了关于美联储应该将利率降到多低的问题。

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Hasset responds to a question on how low the Fed should take rates.

他说:“必须认识到这是一个变革时期,就像1990年代一样。

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He says, "Must recognize this is a transformative time like the 1990s.

AI对生产力的影响比计算机更大。”

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AI is bigger than the computer for productivity."

所以哈塞特再次主张我们需要降低利率。

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So you've got Hassets once again arguing that we need to get these rates to come down.

顺便说一下,10月份有15.3万个裁员,是22年来最糟糕的10月份。

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By the way, October saw 153,000 job cuts, the worst October in 22 years.

截至10月份,我们有109万个裁员。

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And through October, we have 1.09 million layoffs.

这比去年增加了65%,是2020年以来的最高水平。

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This is a 65% jump from last year, and it's the highest since 2020.

所以,再说一遍,这就是你降息的看涨理由。

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So again, that's your bullcase for a rate cut.

当你看到这样的数字时,我们不太可能不降息。

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When you see numbers like that, it's unlikely for us to not get a rate cut.

当你看到劳动力市场以这种方式疲软时,有89.4%的机会,89.4%的机会可能获得降息。

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When you see the labor market start to weaken in the way that it's weakening, 89.4% chance 89.4% chance to potentially get that rake up.

你和DDI(数据驱动投资)是否曾经争论过?

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Didn't you and DDI go back and forth with each other?

是的。

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Yes.

我认为我们在Robinhood和SoFi上进行了一些健康的学术辩论。

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I look, I think we had some healthy intellectual debates on Robin and SoFi.

最终我仍然认为他没有完全理解Robinhood的理论。

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Um, ultimately I still think he doesn't fully understand the Robinet thesis.

也许他认为我没有完全理解SoFi的理论,但这些都是健康的辩论。

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And maybe he thinks I don't fully understand the SoFi thesis, but those are healthy debates.

你知道,如果你是一个公众人物,你要分析股票,进行这些辩论很有趣。

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You know, those if you're if you're a public figure and you're going to be analyzing stocks, it's fun to have those debates.

尽管如此,我非常尊重这个人。

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Nonetheless, I have a lot of respect for the guy.

我只是不同意他哲学性地思考Robinhood作为一家公司的一些方式。

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I just disagree with him on some of the ways he philosophically thinks about Robin Hood as a company.

但我只是认为这对散户来说是一个巨大的胜利,因为有人能在那么高的职位上找到工作。

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But I just think it's a big win for retail for someone to get a job at that high.

首席财务官办公室是一个大问题。

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The office of the CFO is no is a big deal.

直接在一个像SoFi这样快速增长的公司的首席财务官手下工作,并有意义地做出贡献,这是一个非常大的成就。

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like to be directly under the chief financial officer of a fast growing company like SoFi and to be meaningfully contributing that's a really big deal.

所以我非常非常高兴他得到了那份工作,我确实认为这会非常好。

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So I'm very very happy that he got that job and I do think it's going to be really good.

坦率地说,这让我对SoFi更加看好。

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It makes me more bullish for SoFi quite frankly.

Meta今天为什么一直受到打击?

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Why is Meta continually getting hit today bro?

下跌1.7%。

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1.7% down on the news that they're releasing a new model in 2026.

因为他们将在2026年发布新模型的消息。

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Is the market like bearish that they're releasing a model?

市场是不是因为他们发布模型而看跌?

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Isn't doesn't the market want them to release a model?

市场不是希望他们发布模型吗?

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That's weird.

这很奇怪。

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Spy goes green.

标普指数转绿。

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Hoodie about to go green.

Robinhood即将转绿。

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13641 trying to break 137.

136.41美元,试图突破137美元。

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Galaxy up 4% on the day.

Galaxy今天上涨4%。

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Rocket Lab very close to going green as well.

Rocket Lab也接近转绿。

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And Meta is still down.

而Meta仍然下跌。

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Oh yeah, the Google glasses.

哦,是的,谷歌眼镜。

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I forgot about that.

我忘了那个了。

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I saw that in the morning.

我早上看到了。

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That's a big deal.

那是个大新闻。

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By the way, Accenture partnered with Anthropic today to uh train 30,000 consultants on how to use AI.

顺便说一下,埃森哲(Accenture)今天与Anthropic合作,培训3万名顾问如何使用AI。

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So, you've got more and more uh AI tech companies working with these consulting firms to work together.

所以,越来越多的AI科技公司正在与这些咨询公司合作。

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Yeah.

是的。

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So, Google Glasses essentially Google's coming out with a competitor to Ray-B bands.

所以,谷歌眼镜本质上是谷歌正在推出与Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses(Meta与雷朋合作的智能眼镜)竞争的产品。

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Meta Ray-B bands.

Meta Ray-Ban。

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I mean, Google has tried glasses in the past, but this one seems like a a legit a more legit competitor.

我的意思是,谷歌过去尝试过眼镜,但这款似乎是一个更合法的竞争对手。

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Could that actually be the reason, though?

但这真的是原因吗?

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Google says their first AI glasses will arrive next year.

谷歌表示他们的第一款AI眼镜将于明年上市。

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They did demo this stuff back at this uh the the Google IO event, I think in July.

他们早在7月份的谷歌I/O大会上就展示了这些东西。

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This is when the stock was at like 140.

当时股价大约是140美元。

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Uh 2026 looks like when it's going to come out.

2026年似乎是它上市的时间。

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I don't know if this is really a bare case for Meta though, dude.

我不知道这是否真的是Meta的看跌理由。

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Like, like, first of all, glasses as an industry is not that big.

首先,眼镜作为一个行业并没有那么大。

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So, it's not like Meta has this massive market share that's going to be destroyed by Google.

所以,Meta并没有一个庞大的市场份额会被谷歌摧毁。

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And even if it is, who cares?

即使是,谁在乎呢?

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Like, yeah, it's not like Meta is selling that many glasses.

Meta并没有销售那么多眼镜。

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So, if Google takes half of what they're selling, it's like you're not buying Meta for the glasses right here.

所以,如果谷歌拿走了他们销售量的一半,你在这里并不是为了眼镜而购买Meta。

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But, nonetheless, the street probably will react to that.

但尽管如此,市场可能会对此做出反应。

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Hims right here finally getting back above 40, which is nice to see.

Hims终于回到了40美元以上,这很高兴看到。

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That's up 3.3%.

上涨3.3%。

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Um, is that one holding on to a little bit of green?

它是否保持了一点上涨?

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Uh, the the rapper that I had on the stream yesterday, 24K Golden, he he likes him a lot and he thinks it's like a legit product uh or a legit solution for a lot of people, especially in the context of hair loss, which which again is a real thesis for him.

我昨天直播的那位说唱歌手24K Golden,他非常喜欢Hims,他认为它是一个合法的产品,或者对很多人来说是一个合法的解决方案,特别是在脱发方面,这对他来说又是一个真正的理论。

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It's just you got a lot of credit card data coming out by all these banks and they're looking at it and they're saying Q3 is not going to be that good.

只是,所有这些银行都发布了大量信用卡数据,他们正在查看并说第三季度不会那么好。

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They missed on EPS by 40% less.

他们每股收益(EPS)低于预期40%。

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A lot of the excitement and momentum on hims has died down, but the long-term thesis, this like Netflix of healthcare is not really gone.

Hims的很多兴奋和势头已经消退,但长期理论,这种医疗保健领域的Netflix并没有真正消失。

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That thesis is still very much alive.

那个理论仍然非常活跃。

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It's just, you know, the past couple quarters have not been the most exciting.

只是,你知道,过去几个季度并不是最令人兴奋的。

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So, I don't know if this thing gets back to 70 anytime soon, but still, even with the decline from 70, it's up 60% year to date.

所以,我不知道这东西是否会很快回到70美元,但即使从70美元下跌,它今年迄今仍上涨60%。

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Can't be too upset about uh about that stock price performance.

对那只股票的价格表现不能太失望。

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Galaxy right there up 4%.

Galaxy上涨4%。

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Bitcoin getting a little bit of a move above 90 and then Doby at 340 as well.

比特币小幅上涨到90美元以上,Adobe也上涨到340美元。

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Oh, Hasset's talking at the Wall Street Journal conference.

哦,哈塞特正在《华尔街日报》会议上讲话。

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Uh, okay.

好的。

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So, Kevin Hasset at the conference has asked how low rates should go.

所以,凯文·哈塞特在会议上被问到利率应该降到多低。

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Uh, he says, "What we have to do is recognize that we're in the 90s.

他说:“我们必须认识到我们正处于90年代。

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We are in a potentially extremely transformative time.

我们正处于一个可能极其变革的时期。

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Um, you have to watch and make sure inflation doesn't take off."

你必须观察并确保通胀不会飙升。”

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Someone says, "How much lower?"

有人问:“还要降多少?”

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He says, "You have to watch."

他说:“你必须观察。”

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He says, "There's plenty of room to cut rates."

他说:“有足够的空间降息。”

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Someone says, 'What would you do if Trump wanted you to cut rates and you didn't think it was the right thing to do?

有人问:“如果特朗普想让你降息,而你认为这不是正确的做法,你会怎么做?”

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He says, 'Well, if inflation has gone from 2.5 to 4%, then you can't cut rates.

他说:“嗯,如果通胀从2.5%上升到4%,那么你就不能降息。”

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So, basically, he's saying, if I see a meaningful increase in inflation, I wouldn't cut rates, but he's arguing that we're not seeing that meaningful increase in inflation, which I mean, he's right about.

所以,他基本上是说,如果我看到通胀有意义的增加,我就不会降息,但他认为我们没有看到通胀有意义的增加,我的意思是,他说得对。

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You're seeing inflation go up, but it's not going up that aggressively.

你看到通胀在上升,但并没有那么激进。

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Wow.

哇。

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Gold is pushing 60 or sorry, not gold, silver.

黄金正在突破60美元,哦抱歉,不是黄金,是白银。

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Gold is back at 4,200.

黄金回到了4200美元。

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Has silver ever ever broken 60?

白银曾经突破60美元吗?

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I don't think it has.

我不认为有。

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My goodness.

天哪。

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5914 up another 2% on the day.

59.14美元,今天又上涨2%。

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The commodities trade not dying down.

大宗商品交易没有消退。

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Someone just sold 8 million of puts on Tesla.

有人刚刚卖出了800万份特斯拉看跌期权。

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Strike price 430.

行权价430美元。

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That's bullish.

这是看涨的。

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Again, when you're selling puts, it means you're ready to buy those shares at this strike price for January 9th, 2026.

再说一遍,当你卖出看跌期权时,这意味着你准备在2026年1月9日以这个行权价购买这些股票。

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January 9th, 2026.

2026年1月9日。

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24K silver is my new rap name.

24K白银是我的新说唱艺名。

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That's crazy, dude.

那太疯狂了。

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That's absolutely crazy.

那简直太疯狂了。

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Silver, one of the trades of the year.

白银,今年的交易之一。

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One of the trades of the year.

SoFi开始小幅回升。

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So far, starting to recover a little bit.

Robinhood正在推高到137美元。

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Robin Hood pushing 137 right here.

136.70美元。

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13670.

他们将在12月16日举办一场关于预测市场和AI的活动。

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They're going to have an event on December 16th around prediction markets and AI.

再说一遍,我认为人们真的低估了预测市场这个行业的总可寻址市场(TAM: Total Addressable Market: 市场中可以被某个产品或服务触及的潜在最大收入)。

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Again, I think prediction markets I think people are really underestimating how big the TAM is for that industry.

我认为它会不断增长。

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I think it's going to keep growing and growing and growing.

Khi在整个应用商店中排名第一。

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Khi's like number one in the entire app store.

我认为它在应用商店中排名第五。

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I think it's number five in the app store.

在金融类别中排名第一。

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It's number one in finance.

我认为这将是一个非常大的行业。

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Um I think it's going to be a really big industry.

弗拉德在与Compound Friends的播客中做得很好,他们谈论了预测市场,就像:“老兄,你看到我们看到的兴奋了吗?”

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Vlad did a great job on the podcast with the compounding friends and you know they talked about prediction markets and there was just like dude are are you seeing what we're seeing in terms of the excitement for it

他明确表示Robinhood正在看到消费者对这种产品的需求类型发生行为变化。

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and he was unequivocally saying that Robin Hood is seeing a behavioral change in the type of demand that consumers are engaging with when it comes to this product

你知道,现在他们的业务运行率是3亿美元,每月有30亿份合约。

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and uh you know the business is a $300 million run rate right right now for them with three billion contracts every month

所以我认为在未来一年里,这将成为他们更大的业务。

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so I think it's only going to be a bigger bigger business for them over the coming year

ServiceNow现在是853美元,他们上周批准了1股拆5股。

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service now that's at 853 they did approve move a five for one stock split last week.

Ares Management,一家私募股权公司,他们将进入标普500指数。

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Aries Management, which is like a uh private equity firm, they are getting into the S&P 500.

他们今天正式进入标普500指数,昨天也宣布了。

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They are officially getting into the S&P 500 that was announced yesterday as well.

感觉弗拉德不太喜欢Compound Guys。

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It didn't feel like Vlad liked the Compound Guys that much.

你知道,我认为他做了一个非常好的播客。

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You know, I I think he was I think he did had a really good podcast.

Compound Guys的问题,我一次又一次地说过,他们不让嘉宾说话。

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The problem with the compound guys, and I've said this time and time again, they don't let the guests talk.

我喜欢那些家伙。

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Like, I love those guys.

我每周都听播客,但他们就是不停地说话,不让嘉宾说话。

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I I listen to the podcast every week, but they just don't shut up and let the guests talk.

他们总是这样,如果你要插话,你必须插话并说一些聪明的话,或者说一些有价值的话。

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They always like, if you're going to interject, you've got to interject and say something smart or say something that adds value.

他们说的话就像:“老兄,闭嘴吧。

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They say something that's just like, "Dude, like, shut up.

我们不是在酒吧里喝啤酒。

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We're not at a bar drinking a couple beers.

这是一个关于金融的播客。

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Like, it's a podcast about finance.

让金融嘉宾说话。”

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Like, let the finance guest talk."

是的,也许是他们纽约人的特点,但这真的很烦人。

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It's Yeah, maybe it's the New York in them, but it's really annoying, dude.

就像你和我一样,你知道,我采访过弗拉德几次。

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Like, you're just like you and I, you know, I because I've interviewed Vlad a couple times.

我从他身上学到的一件事是,他说话需要很长时间,你必须给他时间让他表达。

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One of the things I I learned about him is that he takes a long time to speak and you got to give him the time to to let him present it.

他说话很慢,但如果你问一个好问题,你会得到一个好答案。

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He's a very slow talker, but if you ask a good question, you'll get a good response.

他正说到一半,他们就打断了他。

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And he's like midway trying to get through his answer, and they'll interrupt him.

你可以看出他有点吃惊,因为他想完成他的回答。

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And you could tell he's just like a little startled by it because he wants to finish his freaking answer.

那是那个播客最烦人的部分。

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And that's the most annoying part about that podcast.

所以我认为弗拉德做得很好,但我认为他们必须让嘉宾真正说话。

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So, I think Vlad did a great job, but I think they just have to let the guest actually Yeah.

是的,让他发挥。

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Let him cook.

让他真正发挥。

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Actually, let him cook.

好的。

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All right.

本周谁看好Oracle和Adobe?

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Who's Who's long Oracle and Adobe going into this week?

我将在聊天中发起一个投票。

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I'm going to put a poll in the chat.

我上次在9月8日以完全相同的价格问过这个问题,Oracle从220美元涨到了350美元。

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I asked this last time at this exact same price on September 8th and Oracle went from 220 to 350.

我不知道这是否会再次发生。

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I don't know if that happens again.

你们中有几个人在前一天买入了看涨期权,赚了一些钱。

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A couple of you guys actually bought calls the day before that and made some good money.

但我真的想知道软件股是否会在年底表现出色。

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But I really wonder if the software names show up for the for the end of the year.

本周看好Oracle和Adobe。

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Long Oracle and Adobe this week.

Oracle、Adobe,都看好还是都不看好?

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Oracle Adobe both or neither?

你觉得呢?

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What do you think?

聚会详情将很快公布。

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Uh meetup details will be coming out soon.

再说一遍,我将在周五与我的新经理进行直播。

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Again, I'm doing a stream with my new manager on Friday.

那将在东部时间晚上7点到7点半。

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That'll be at uh 700 p.m. 7:30 p.m. Eastern.

所以,我们将在那场直播中公布聚会的一些详情。

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So, we'll have some details on the meetup uh on that stream.

但是的,本周末我们将有详情,然后下周将有更多详情。

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But yeah, this weekend we'll have details and then next week we'll have a lot more details.

但是的,纽约聚会正在进行中。

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But yes, New York meetup is happening.

很可能在2月1日而不是1月25日,因为我忘了美式橄榄球的AFC冠军赛在1月25日。

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Likely is happening February 1st over January 25th because I forgot the AFC Championship is on January 25th for football.

所以,很可能在2月1日那个星期天举行。

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So, probably going to do it fe February 1st, that Sunday.

是的,我们将在本周末结束时公布更多详情。

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And yes, we'll have more details on this going into the end of the uh the end of the week.

Oracle小幅持平。

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Oracle is slightly flat.

再说一遍,英伟达下跌是因为中国出来说:“我们不想要H200。”

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Again, Nvidia's down because China came out and said, "We don't want the H200s."

基本上,这就是英伟达下跌的原因。

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Basically, that's why Nvidia is down.

否则,英伟达会是190美元。

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Otherwise, Nvidia would be at 190.

所以特朗普愿意出售它们,或者特朗普让黄仁勋出售它们,但中国不一定想要它们。

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Um, so Trump is willing to sell them or Trump is letting Jensen sell them, but China doesn't necessarily want them.

现在,我认为中国仍然会得到一些,这总体上是积极的,但市场正在根据这个叙事行动,这就是为什么英伟达现在在183美元下跌。

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Now granted, I think China's gonna still get some of them, which is net positive, but the streets moving on that narrative, and that's why I'm videoing right there at 183 is down on the day.

是的,我们今天也会进行“技术星期二”。

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Yes, we will do technical Tuesday today as well.

Jason送了我一份礼物。

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Jason sent me a gift.

顺便说一下,我会在收盘直播时给你们看,那是一份很棒的礼物。

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By the way, I'm going to show you guys on the stream on the market close, but uh it's a pretty dope gift.

所以,我会在和Jason直播时给你们看。

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So, I will show you guys when I'm live with Jason.

那太酷了。

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It was super cool.

连我妈妈都看到了,她说:“哇,这太棒了。”

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Even my mom saw it. She was like, "Wow, this is amazing."

所以,向Jason致敬。

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So, shout out to Jason.

但我会在今天直播时给你们看礼物。

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But I'll show you guys the gift once uh once we go live today.

标普684点,Iren 47美元,ServiceNow 858美元。

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S&P 684, Iran at 47, then service now at 858.

好的,5分钟后我们将收到9月份的JOLTS数据。

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All right, in 5 minutes we're going to get jolts for September.

CrowdStrike也上涨了。

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Um, Crowd Strike is up as well.

市场预期720万。

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The street is expecting 7.2 million.

哇,CrowdStrike创历史新高。

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Wow, Crowd Strike alltime highs.

720万个工作岗位。

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7.2 million jobs.

抱歉,不是历史新高。

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Sorry, not alltime highs.

550美元是历史新高,但我们现在是525美元。

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550 is alltime highs, but 525 is where we're at.

现在,问题是,我不知道这个JOLTS数据是否会那么重要。

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Uh, right here. Kind of like intrammon highs. Now, the thing is, I don't know if this jolt is going to matter that much.

哦,哇。

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