逃离与救赎:一位古巴移民的尼亚加拉往事 TVO Today 2026-06-09

尼亚加拉的古巴渊源与美食初探

主持人: 这里不是古巴。这里是安大略省的尼亚加拉大瀑布(Niagara Falls),也是哈瓦那餐厅和鸡尾酒廊(Havana Restaurant and Cocktail Lounge)的所在地。这家餐厅的老板戴利(Daly's)和玛丽亚·法伊夫(Maria Fyfe)是世界上最大莫吉托(mojito)的吉尼斯世界纪录保持者。尼亚加拉大瀑布与古巴的渊源可以追溯到 1824 年,当时诗人何塞·玛丽亚·埃雷迪亚(José Maria Heredia)来到这里,并写下了诗作《尼亚加拉颂》(Ode to Niagara)。从那以后,一代又一代的古巴人被吸引到这里,比如阿布迪尔·埃尔南德斯(Abdiel Hernandez),他是一名前出租车司机兼 DJ,在 90 年代末首次来到加拿大。阿布迪尔,你在尼亚加拉有很多回忆。你曾经是一名出租车司机。

Original English

Host: No, this isn't Cuba. This is Niagara Falls, Ontario, home to Havana Restaurant and Cocktail Lounge, and its owners, Daly's and Maria Fyfe, Guinness World Record holders for the largest mojito ever made. Niagara falls has a connection to Cuba that goes all the way back to 1824, when poet José Maria Heredia visited here and wrote the poem Ode to Niagara. Since then, generations of Cubans have been drawn here, like Abdiel Hernandez, a former cab driver and DJ who first came to Canada in the late '90s. Abdala, you have a lot of memories on Niagara. Used to be a taxi cab driver.

阿布迪尔·埃尔南德斯: 我曾经在这里做出租车司机、导游和豪华轿车司机。刚搬来这里的时候,我们都不知道该做些什么。你知道的,这就是典型的移民经历。

Original English

Abdiel Hernandez: I was a cab driver, a tour guide, limo driver here. When I moved here, we didn't know what to do. You know, the immigrant experience.

主持人: 所以这是你第一次来这里?

Original English

Host: So this is the first time for you.

阿布迪尔·埃尔南德斯: 这是我第一次在这里吃饭。我以前曾在晚上来这里跳过舞。你好。你好。最近好吗?

Original English

Abdiel Hernandez: This is the first time eating here. I've been here at night time dancing. Hello. Hello. How you doing?

主持人: 谢谢你。非常感谢。谢谢(Gracias)。你有什么推荐的菜品吗?

Original English

Host: Thank you. So much. Gracias. What is something that you recommend?

阿布迪尔·埃尔南德斯: 在古巴推荐烤猪肉。每个人都吃猪肉。那是主要的肉类。实际上,他们这里的做法和古巴当地一模一样。

Original English

Abdiel Hernandez: The roasted pork in Cuba. Everybody eat pork. That's the main meat. Actually, they keep it like Cubans over there.

主持人: 好的。

Original English

Host: Okay.

阿布迪尔·埃尔南德斯: 你想深入体验正宗的古巴风味吗?最地道的一道菜就是“旧衣服牛肉”(ropa vieja)。

Original English

Abdiel Hernandez: You want to go really deep in the Cuban style? Like an authentic is a ropa vieja.

主持人: 我想我应该相信你的推荐。非常感谢你。很感激。好了,我们来聊聊食物吧。因为对很多人,或者说对很多加拿大人来说,提到古巴食物,说实话,它的名声并不算最好。

Original English

Host: I think I trust you. Thank you so much. Appreciate it. All right, let's talk food. Because for a lot of people, for a lot of Canadians, when they think of Cuban food, let's be real, it doesn't get the best reputation.

阿布迪尔·埃尔南德斯: 名声确实是个问题,完全正确。

Original English

Abdiel Hernandez: Reputation, exactly.

主持人: 因为人们主要是在度假村里品尝到这些食物的。关于真正的古巴食物,人们需要了解些什么呢?

Original English

Host: Because it's predominantly resorts that people sample the food at. What do people need to know about real Cuban food?

古巴美食的历史演变与政治影响

阿布迪尔·埃尔南德斯: 古巴食物?我们必须回顾历史,你要知道,从古巴的原住民人口被西班牙人彻底消灭开始说起。所以我们主要受西班牙食物的影响。从 1925 年到 1959 年之间的欧洲食物,还有许多来自中国的移民、韩国人、阿拉伯人和犹太人搬到了古巴。所以存在着 1959 年之前1959 年之后的古巴食物历史。在古巴,生活中的方方面面——食物、文化、文学、音乐等等一切,都受到了过去 67 年来在岛上盛行的经济和政治模式的严重影响。

Original English

Abdiel Hernandez: Cuban food? We got to go back in history, you know, starting with the Cuban indigenous population was completely exterminated by the Spaniards. So our main influence is Spanish food. European food from 1925 to 1959, a lot of people from China are Koreans and Arabs and Jews moved to Cuba. There is a Cuban food history before 1959 and after 59. So in Cuba, every aspect of life food, culture, literature, music and everything is heavily influenced by the economic and political model that has been in the island prevailing for the last 67 years.

主持人: 这里的东西看起来真漂亮。

Original English

Host: Beautiful stuff here.

阿布迪尔·埃尔南德斯: 看看这个。这是传统的美食。这是炸芭蕉(tostones)。而在那边,我们有鲜虾鸡尾酒。

Original English

Abdiel Hernandez: Look at this. This is traditional. This is tostones. And over there we have the shrimp cocktail.

主持人: 美味极了。

Original English

Host: Delicious.

阿布迪尔·埃尔南德斯: 非常感谢。

Original English

Abdiel Hernandez: Thank you very much.

主持人: 好的。

Original English

Host: All right.

阿布迪尔·埃尔南德斯: 谢谢。

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Abdiel Hernandez: Thank you.

移民加拿大的选择与出租车司机岁月

主持人: 所以你是家里最年长的孩子?你到底有几个兄弟姐妹?

Original English

Host: So you're the eldest in your family? Exactly how many siblings do you have?

阿布迪尔·埃尔南德斯: 我有一个比我小四岁的弟弟,还有一个比我小两岁的妹妹。他们现在都住在南佛罗里达的西棕榈滩(West Palm Beach)。

Original English

Abdiel Hernandez: I got a brother that is four years younger and a sister who's two years younger. They're both living in West Palm Beach in South Florida.

主持人: 他们在那里享受着阳光。而你却决定将加拿大和寒冷的天气作为你想定居的地方。为什么?为什么选择加拿大?

Original English

Host: They're enjoying the sun. While you decided Canada and the cold would be the place that you would want to settle in. Why? Why Canada?

阿布迪尔·埃尔南德斯: 我对加拿大有一种非常特殊的感情。我来到了这个国家。那些帮助我来到这里的人,与我共事的人都是非常伟大的人,非常好的人。他们帮助我,该怎么说呢,非常完美地融入了这里的文化。我喜欢我看到的关于加拿大的一切,特别是这里的人民。

Original English

Abdiel Hernandez: I got a very special connection to Canada. I came to this country. The people who will help me come here. I work great human beings, great people. And they help me. How would I say feed into the culture? Very well. I liked everything I saw about Canada, especially the people.

主持人: 当你在尼亚加拉的时候,你曾谈到,你知道的,当人们坐进你的出租车时,他们会问你关于某些地方的问题,那些游客,他们想知道,那是什么?那是什么?告诉我。你重新温习了你的尼亚加拉历史。

Original English

Host: When you were in Niagara, you were talking about how, you know, when people get into your cab, they're asking you questions about certain places, you know, tourists, they want to know, what's that? What's that? Tell me. You you brushed up on your Niagara history.

阿布迪尔·埃尔南德斯: 如果你想了解一个城镇,如果你想学习它的文化,如果你想感受这座城市的脉搏,你就去当一名出租车司机。通过这种方式,你可以接触到各行各业的人,特别是在尼亚加拉。作为这样一个国际知名的旅游胜地,你会遇到来自世界各地的游客。我感觉自己就像个心理咨询师,但我拿的不是咨询师的薪水。我拿的是出租车司机的钱,因为人们会向我倾诉他们的问题,并且想听听我的意见。

Original English

Abdiel Hernandez: What if you want to get to know a town, if you want to learn the culture, if you want to get the pulse of a city, you become a cab driver. So you get to know people from all walks of life, from especially Niagara. Being such a tourist, internationally known spot, you get tourists from all over the world. I'm a councillor, but I'm not getting paid as a councillor. I'm getting paid as a cab driver because people vent their problems and they want your opinion.

离开古巴的深层原因与体制控诉

主持人: 跟我讲讲这里的古巴人社区吧,就是在大多伦多地区,或者是安大略省西南部这里的古巴社区,因为这里并没有庞大的古巴人口。

Original English

Host: Tell me a little bit about the community, the Cuban community here in sort of, you know, the greater Toronto area, but southwest Ontario, because it's not a huge population.

阿布迪尔·埃尔南德斯: 不,这里的古巴人口并不庞大,因为在那个时候,比如说前往美国这样的地方,在交通上会更容易抵达。而在加拿大,作为一个古巴人,你必须以水手、飞行员、外交官、音乐家的身份前来,或者是受人邀请。但由于古巴的政治和经济状况,大多数古巴人会在位于哈瓦那的加拿大驻古巴大使馆被拒签,因为他们被视为——我该怎么说呢——潜在的移民。一旦他们来到这里,他们就不会再回去了。

Original English

Abdiel Hernandez: No, it's not a huge population because it's at the time the access, for example, to places like the United States, it was easier in order to arrive to. In Canada, as a Cuban, you had to come as a sailor, as a pilot, as a diplomat, as a musician, or invited by somebody. But because of the political and economical situation in Cuba, most Cubans will get denied at the Canadian Embassy in Havana because they are, how would I say potential immigrants once they come here, they will not go back.

主持人: 帮助我了解一下,为什么当时像你这个年纪的人会想要离开古巴。那个国家已经发生了很大的变化,但同时很多事情又没有任何改变。最初是什么促使你做出离开那里的决定?

Original English

Host: Help me understand a little bit why someone your age at the time would want to leave Cuba. A lot has changed in that country, but a lot hasn't changed in that country. What made you originally come out this way?

阿布迪尔·埃尔南德斯: 我对自由的追求、我的道德标准、我对是非对错的观念,与古巴的体制不一致,与我所称的独裁政权不一致。那里有大量的审查制度。没有言论自由。没有政治结社的自由,也没有经济自由。举个例子,我以前工作的那家酒店,我的工资应该是 970 美元。但是扮演着职业介绍所角色的古巴政府,会拿走我的工资,然后每个月只发给我 15.20 美元。当你把经济困难与缺乏人权和自由结合在一起时,就会造成一种绝望的处境,因为在古巴,你根本无法改善自己的生活。在那个岛上,你没有任何办法可以摆脱那种困境。

Original English

Abdiel Hernandez: My quest for freedom, my models, my sense of right or wrong, didn't align with the Cuban system, with what I call a dictatorship. A lot of censure. Not freedom of speech. No freedom of political affiliation, no economic freedom. For example, my salary at the hotel where I used to work was $970 dollars. But the Cuban government, posing as an employment agency, would take my salary and give me $1,520 a month. When you put economic hardship with lack of human rights and freedoms, it creates a desperate situation because there's no way for you to improve your life in Cuba. There's no way in the island to get out of that situation.

流散者的创伤:离散潮与断裂的情感

主持人: 从 2022 年到 2023 年,古巴经历了该国历史上最大规模的移民潮,大约有 100 万人离开了这个岛国,其中许多人前往了美国。对于一个拥有 1000 万人口的国家来说,这意味着在短短两年内就有 10% 的人口离开了。目前,四分之一的古巴人年龄在 60 岁以上。这是因为离开的人中很大一部分是年轻人。在此之前也曾有过其他几波移民潮——60 年代、80 年代,以及阿布迪尔本人离开的 90 年代,每一波移民潮都在留下来的人,以及在海外寻求新生活的人身上留下了深深的印记。

Original English

Host: From 2022 to 2023, Cuba saw the biggest wave of emigration in the country's history, with around a million people leaving the island, many heading to the U.S. now. For a country with a population of 10 million, that's 10% of its population leaving in just two years. 1 in 4 Cubans right now are over the age of 60. And that's because many of the people leaving are younger. There have been other waves of emigration the '60s, the '80s, the '90s when Abdille left himself, each wave leaving a mark on the people left behind, as well as the people seeking a new life abroad.

阿布迪尔·埃尔南德斯: 你的家人、你的朋友,所有对你有情感意义的东西都被留在了身后。而在这个拥有各种可能性的伟大国家里,你对它并没有任何情感上的依恋。所以这是一个非常艰难的过程。这曾经很困难。曾经很煎熬。但到了最后,我很感激自己迈出了这一步。

Original English

Abdiel Hernandez: Your family, your friends, everything that emotionally means something to you is left behind. And this great country, with all these possibilities, you don't have an emotional attachment to it. So it's a very difficult process. It was hard. It was tough. But at the end of the day, I'm grateful I did it.

主持人: 你回过古巴吗?

Original English

Host: Have you ever been back?

阿布迪尔·埃尔南德斯: 我回去过几次,但我现在大概有 7 年没回去过了。最近三次回去,都是因为一些我个人并不喜欢的家庭琐事。我觉得回到古巴让人感到神经紧绷。我宁愿呆在一个让我感到安全的国家。

Original English

Abdiel Hernandez: I've been back a few times, but I haven't been back for about seven years now. And the last three times was because of family dynamics I personally don't enjoy. I find it tense. Going back to Cuba. I rather stay in a country where I feel safe.

主持人: 你刚才说你的直系亲属都在美国?完全正确。所以只有你和你的妻子、孩子们在加拿大。

Original English

Host: You were saying your immediate family is in the US? Exactly. It's just you here in Canada with your wife and your kids.

阿布迪尔·埃尔南德斯: 没错。

Original English

Abdiel Hernandez: Exactly.

侨民的重担:维系生命的药品与绝望的求救

主持人: 不过,你在古巴还有一些表亲。你和他们保持联系吗?

Original English

Host: You have some cousins, though, that you have still in Cuba. Do you keep in touch with them?

阿布迪尔·埃尔南德斯: 和他们保持联系。我们只是不停地给他们寄送药品,送到各个地方。自古巴的经济被彻底摧毁以来,每个月,作为唯一一个为人们提供医疗服务的提供者,政府获取药品和为人们提供治疗的能力已大幅减弱。所以他们只能向国外的家人求助。我的情况并不是个例。如果你去看一下 Facebook 页面,你会看到人们在发:我需要这种药,我需要那种药。所以,是在欧洲、在美国和这里的古巴侨民,实际上在照顾着他们大部分的家人。我认识一些和我关系非常近的人。我不想说得太涉及个人隐私。但他们甚至得在加拿大这里伪造疾病和病症,才能获得药品寄到古巴。我说的可是那些救命的药物。

Original English

Abdiel Hernandez: Keep in touch with them. We just we send them medicine everywhere. Every month since Cubans economy has been decimated, the capability of the government, which is the only one who provides health services to get the medicines and the treatments for the people is greatly diminished. So they resort to their families abroad. My case is not the only one. If you look at the Facebook page, you see people, I need this medicine, I need this medicine. So it's the Cuban diaspora here in Europe, in the States, the ones who actually take care of most of their families. I know people very close to me. I'm not going to get too personal. That had to fake diseases and conditions here so they could have access to the drugs to send to Cuba. I'm talking about life saving drugs.

主持人: 他们给你发的一些信息里都说了些什么?

Original English

Host: What are some of the messages that some of them are sending you?

阿布迪尔·埃尔南德斯: 我试着找几条念给你听。比如,这条写着:我的兄弟,在这种情况下给你写信我感到很抱歉,但我需要经济援助。我需要在哈瓦那看一位血管学医生(Angiologist)。这是一条,来自萨卢多斯·罗曼诺(Saludos Romano)。我感到非常尴尬,但我需要 30 美元。这里的一切都很糟糕。让我……让我看看能不能再找一条。给你一个大大的拥抱,我的兄弟。我永远爱你。如果你现在看到古巴,如果你看到现在的样子,你绝对认不出来它了。

Original English

Abdiel Hernandez: I'll try to locate a couple of them. For example, this one says, my brother, I don't feel or I feel bad about writing you in these circumstances, but I would like economic help. I needed to see a doctor in Havana with the Angiologist. This is one Saludos Romano. I'm very embarrassed, but I need $30. Everything here is horrible. Let me let me see if I find another one. A big hug, my brother. I love you always. If you see Cuba now, if you see this now, you will not Recognize it.

主持人: 这是一位在你上次和他交谈之后,不幸已经去世的人吗?这是谁给你发的信息?

Original English

Host: This is someone who, unfortunately you said has passed since you've talked to them. Who did they send you a message here?

阿布迪尔·埃尔南德斯: 事情发生了变化。一切都在变得更糟。如果我们不给他们寄钱,他们就会死。他们会死于所有这些疾病。所以,为了让他们能吃上饭,并尽可能保持健康,因为我们在加拿大也有自己的挑战,你知道,一个移民必须适应新的国家,必须面对那些在这里生活了世世代代的人们所面临的同样挑战。而最重要的是,我们还要照顾我们在远方的家人。

Original English

Abdiel Hernandez: Things have changed. Everything for bad. If we don't send them money, they. They die. They die victim of all those diseases. So in order to keep them fed and as healthy as we can, because we also have our challenges here, you know, an immigrant has to adapt to the new country, has to face the same challenges that the people who live here have for generations. And on top of that, we also take care of our families.

负罪感与无望的体制:古巴的困局

主持人: 我想承认一点,当我们在这里吃着美味的食物时,却在谈论古巴人没有食物吃的这些问题。我可以想象,作为这个国家的人,听到和看到这些对你来说一定很难受,是的,你离开了,但你仍然为自己是古巴人而感到非常自豪。看到那些画面和听到他们告诉你的故事,对你来说一定很艰难。

Original English

Host: I'm going to acknowledge that we're having some delicious food while we're talking about sort of the issues in Cuba of people not having food. I imagine that must be hard for you to hear and see that this is your country, that yes, you left, but it's still that you're very proud to be Cuban. It must be hard for you to see the images and the stories that they tell you.

阿布迪尔·埃尔南德斯: 这让人心碎。许多古巴人从岛上来到这里后,当他们走进超市,看到这里充足的食物供应时,他们会感到内疚。他们的思绪会回到古巴的朋友和亲戚身上,然后他们就会开始哭泣,感到内疚。因为现在我拥有了这一切,而我留在岛上的人民却一无所有。而且政府并没有意愿去进行必要的改革,以改善人民的生活质量,就像中国或越南所做的那样。即便我可能不认同他们在人权方面的记录,比如在言论自由、宗教自由、政治结社自由、独立工会等等方面。但至少他们推行了一些经济改革,稍微改善了他们本国人民的基本生活质量。而古巴的独裁政权或者说政府、体制,在这方面是非常僵化的。人民正在遭受极大的苦难。

Original English

Abdiel Hernandez: It's heartbreaking. Many Cubans, when they come from the island, they feel guilty when they walk into a supermarket and they see all the availability of food that there is here. Their mind goes back to their friends and relatives back in Cuba, and they start crying and they feel guilty. Because now I got all this and my people down in the island don't have anything, and the government doesn't have the willingness to bring about the necessary reforms to improve the quality of life of people, like, for example, they did in China or Vietnam, even when they might, I might not agree with their human rights records when it comes to freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of political affiliation, independent unions and stuff like that. But at least they brought about some economic reforms that improve a little bit the basic quality of life of their own people, the Cuban dictatorship or government or regime is very rigid when it comes to that. And the people are suffering big time.

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