大会开场与欢迎
主持人: 大家好,早上好!
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主持人: Hello. Good morning. How's everybody doing?
主持人: 哇,好的,这就是我想要的活力!
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主持人: Whoa. Okay, that's the energy I'm asking for.
主持人: 不会吧,你们又回来了。我知道有些人是第一天来这里,所以,欢迎大家回来!对于新来的朋友,欢迎来到AI Engineering Miami第二天!
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主持人: No way. You came back. Well, I also know some people just came here as their first day. So, welcome back everybody. And for people who are new, welcome to AI Engineering Miami day two.
主持人: 好的,几个小问题。昨天谁学到了很棒的东西,迫不及待想很快尝试?
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主持人: Okay, some quick questions. Who learned something awesome yesterday that they can't wait to try very soon?
主持人: 哦,我看到有人举手了。
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主持人: Oo, I see hands.
主持人: 好的,谁结识了一些新的LinkedIn人脉?
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主持人: Okay, who made some new LinkedIn connections?
主持人: 哦,我看到有人举手了。
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主持人: Oh, I see hands.
主持人: 谁结识了五个以上LinkedIn人脉?嗯,好的,我会记下来。
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主持人: Who made more than five LinkedIn connections? Um, okay. I'll take note of that.
主持人: 我希望你被AI取代。
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主持人: I hope you get replaced by AI.
主持人: 那是谁?
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主持人: Who's that person?
主持人: 好的,昨晚谁喝醉了?别害羞,举手给我看看。谁喝大了?算了,你们还能回来我挺惊讶的。
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主持人: All right. And um, who got drunk last night? Don't be shy. Show me your hands. Who got wasted? Never mind. I'm surprised you made it back. Anyways,
主持人: 哇,因为我今天对议程非常兴奋。所以,无论你昨晚喝了多少,我们今天都有很棒的演讲阵容。从我们的组织者G2I到Cursor,有很多精彩的演讲。实际上,我对其中一个演讲特别兴奋,它非常具有未来感,但我不会剧透。所以,请耐心等待。在一天结束时,我会让你们猜猜是哪一个让我最兴奋。所以请大家继续关注,了解我们今天为大家组织的所有演讲。好的,我有一个问题要问大家:谁是世界级的工程师?是的,是的,这就是我想要的自信。实际上,坐在这个房间里的每一个人都是世界级的工程师。你旁边的人,甚至那些不喜欢别人的人,也都是世界级的工程师。所以我希望你们能真正利用这个机会,从今天所有的演讲中学习更多。真正努力成为你们本来的世界级工程师,也和别人交流,建立联系,这样我们就能一起用AI建设一个更美好的未来。所以,这就是今天大会的目标,我非常感谢你们每一个人都在这里,你们正在建立联系,并使这一切成为可能。
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主持人: Wow. Well, because I'm so excited about the agenda for today. So, no matter how much you drank last night, we have a great lineup of talks today. So, ranging from G2I, our organizer, all the way to Cursor. So, a lot of great talks. Actually, I'm super excited about one talk in particular. It's superfuristic, but I'm not going to spoil it for you. So, stay tight. And at the end of the day, I'm going to ask you to guess which one was the one that I'm most excited about. So just keep tuning in and find out all the talks that we have organized for you today. Okay. So I have a question for you all. Who is a worldclass engineer? Yes. Yes. That's the confidence that I'm looking for. Every single one of you actually sitting in this room is a world-class engineer. And also the person sitting next to you, even the people who don't like other people are also world-class engineers. So I want you to really take this moment to learn more from all the talks today. Really try to be that world-class engineer that you truly are and also talk to other people and make connections so that together we can all build a better future with AI. So that is the goal for the conference for today and I'm just so grateful that every single one of you is here and you are making connections and making that possible for us.
主持人: 我忘了问一个问题:谁喜欢今年的主持人?
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主持人: I forgot to ask one question. Who's loving the MC's this year?
主持人: 很好,很好,很好。
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主持人: Good, good, good.
主持人: 谁喜欢主持人?
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主持人: Who's loving the MC's?
主持人: 谢谢大家。
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主持人: Thank you all.
主持人: 好的,我们将为今天的第一个演讲者David House保持这份热情。Iman,你觉得David House怎么样?
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主持人: Yeah. Well, we're going to keep the energy for our first speaker of today, David House. Iman, what do you think about David House?
Iman: 我真的很羡慕他的夹克。
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Iman: I'm I'm really jealous of his jacket.
主持人: 你会看到的,你会看到的。
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主持人: You'll see. You'll see.
主持人: 好的,David将代表大会组织者G2I向我们演讲。他将谈论我们如何转变编程思维模式。他将通过智能体编码(agentic coding)采纳的案例研究来分享。这与我们每个人都息息相关。我迫不及待地想介绍David,让他展示他的夹克。所以,请大家为David鼓掌!
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主持人: Well, so David will be talking to us representing G2I, which is the organizer for the conference. He's going to talk about how we're transforming programming mindsets. So he's going to give us some case studies in agentic coding adoption. So relevant to every single one of us. And I can't wait to introduce David and let him show off his jacket. So give it up for David.
智能体编码的采纳与挑战
David House: 早上好,各位。大家好。我是一名软件工程经理,但我的背景实际上是心理健康咨询。我一直在尝试如何将这些技能结合起来,最近我看到了一个独特的机会。我一直在听说人们正在采纳编码智能体(coding agents),但同时也存在很多焦虑、很多恐惧和很多存在主义的担忧。所以我想更多地了解这些。这也是我第一次在会议上演讲,所以请大家鼓掌!
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David House: Good morning everyone. Hi. So I am a software engineering manager but my background is actually in mental health counseling. Um I've was trying to figure out how to marry these skills together and recently I saw a unique opportunity. I've been hearing about all of these people adopting coding agents but there's also a lot of anxiety, a lot of fear, a lot of existential dread. So I wanted to learn more about that. Also this is my very first conference talk. So, please clap.
David House: 所以有很多东西要学习。人们是如何采纳这些工具的呢?我深入研究了不同的访谈,和团队中的人交流。我问他们如何采纳这些工具,他们的经历是什么,他们的感受是什么。我最终了解到了一个成功采纳的模型。我们的第一个案例是Ava。
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David House: So, there's a lot to learn. Um, how are people adopting these tools? And I I got into the weeds with different interviews, people on the team. I asked them questions about how they adopted the tools, what their experiences were, what their feelings were. And what I ended up learning about was a model of successful adoption. Our first case is Ava.
David House: Ava第一次接触AI是使用ChatGPT。她使用ChatGPT来构思家庭活动、儿童活动等各种她可以自己审查并信任输出的事情。她自己就能批准这些输出。但当涉及到工作时,她持有一个非常不同的标准。她不复制粘贴代码,她不信任输出。而且,与她在家中使用AI不同,她非常在意其他评审人员的看法。她非常在意自己的声誉,不想交付劣质代码。
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David House: Ava's first experience with AI was with chat GPT. She used chatbt for coming up with ideas for family events, kids activities, all kinds of things that she could review herself and trust the output. She was the only one who needed to sign off on it. But when it came to work, she held a very different standard. She didn't copy paste code. She didn't trust the output. And contrary to her work with AI with her family, there were other reviewers that she was very mindful of. She was very mindful of her reputation and she didn't want to ship slot.
David House: 然而,当她加入G2I时,项目非常不同。我稍后会告诉你们项目是如何构建的,但她加入了一个从一开始就期望使用智能体编码的项目,并且整个项目都是围绕智能体的使用而构建的。她了解到使用智能体的不同技术可以产生更好的输出,她可以真正信任的输出。她意识到她的开发工作流程中很多东西都必须改变。在使用规定的工作流程几个月后,她内化了这些经验,足以为自己创建一个子智能体(sub agent),用于更专业的测试模式。
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David House: However, when she joined G2I, the project was very different. I'll tell you more about how the project was structured later but she joined a project where agent coding was the expectation from the beginning and the whole project was built around agent use. She learned that different techniques for working with agents could produce better output output that she could actually trust and she realized that a lot of things had to change about her development workflow. After months of using the prescribed workflow, she internalized those lessons enough to be able to create a sub agent for herself for a more specialized testing pattern.
David House: 所以当我观看关于AI的YouTube视频时,我听到“劣质代码”(slop cannon)和“技能问题”(skill issue)。在这两者之间很容易两极分化,对吧?但是,如果你是说“技能问题”的人,也许你曾经是说“劣质代码”的人。如果你是说“劣质代码”的人,也许你有一些东西可以学习,以达到可以说“技能问题”的程度。我想说的是,这两个极端之间存在一些东西,这正是我真正感兴趣的。我认为两者都是真的,对吧?当你学会如何与AI协作时,你就可以开始区分如何避免“劣质代码”,并希望不要对此傲慢。
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David House: So when I watch YouTube videos about AI, I hear slop cannon and I hear skill issue. It's really easy to polarize between the two, right? But like if you're someone who's saying skill issue, maybe you were someone who said slop cannon. And may if you are someone who's saying slop cannon, maybe there's something for you to learn to get to the point where you can say skill issue. The point I'm trying to make is there's something in between those two poles. And that's what I'm really interested in. I think both are true, right? And when you learn how to work with AI, then you can start to differentiate how to avoid slop cannon and hopefully how not to be arrogant about it.
David House: 好的,我为这张幻灯片纠结了很久,但现在它是我最喜欢的。我向大家提出的主张是,对于初学者来说,智能体框架(agentic framework)应该限制他们的输入。初学者不知道什么时候会犯错。但对于专家来说,一个花了很多时间与智能体打交道,内化了如何与它们协作的开发实践的人,一个智能体框架实际上应该放大他们的输入。所以,一个智能体框架应该在改进智能体输出的同时,塑造人类的输入。我怀疑这些技能对于任何工程师来说都不是直观的。智能体的使用不是我们任何教育的一部分,所以我们不能期望自己会知道。
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David House: Okay, I agonized over this slide for a long time, but now it's my favorite. Here's my claim for all of you is that for a beginner, an agentic framework should constrain their input. A beginner doesn't know when they're going to make mistakes. But for an expert, someone who has spent a lot of time with agents, someone who's internalized the development practices of how to work with them, an agent framework should actually amplify their input. So an agentic framework should shape the input of the human in addition to improving the agent's output. What I suspect is that these skills are not intuitive for any engineer. Agentic use was not part of any of our education. So we can't be expected to know it.
G2I的智能体框架
David House: 让我们谈谈在G2I发生的事情。这里的案例研究都来自G2I的一个非常具体的项目。每个人都接受了相同的智能体框架培训,该框架非常依赖文档和分阶段的交接。它从一个SL brief skill开始,智能体扮演产品经理的角色,采访用户,对话的输出是一个产品简介。该产品简介成为SAS spec bill的输入,智能体再次扮演技术架构师的角色,采访用户,结果是一个技术规范,作为slashcode或slashtestdriven development go的输入,其中两个文档都作为非常具体、经过充分论证的提示,并嵌入了工程师的判断。然后我们以一个slash review skill结束,以确保智能体涵盖了文档中定义的所有实现,然后是一个draft PR skill,以节省你一些时间并花费一些额外的token。
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David House: Let's talk about what happened at G2I. So the case studies here are all from a very a specific project at G2I. Everyone was onboarded to the same agentic framework which relies very heavily on documentation and staged handoffs. It starts with a SL brief skill where the agent assumes a product manager persona interviews the user and the output of that conversation is a product brief. That product brief becomes input to a SAS spec bill where the agent assumes the role of a technical architect again interviews the user and the result of that is a technical specification that's provided as input to the slashcode or slashtestdriven development go where both documents ments act as very specific, very well-reasoned prompts with embedded judgment from the engineer. And then we close with a slash review skill to make sure that the agent covered all of the implementation as defined in the doc and then a draft PR skill to save you a little bit of time and spend a few extra tokens.
David House: 但不要被框架分心。我不是来告诉你这个框架比其他任何框架都好。我甚至可以说,大多数框架都在做同样的工作。我将这项工作分解为三件事:第一,揭示智能体编码的隐藏实践;第二,使智能体的工作可审查,包括其推理和输出;第三,训练工程师有效地与智能体进行委托。初学者可能会抛出一个提示,要求用Rust重写整个代码库。但更有经验的工程师会知道要一步一步来。
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David House: But don't get distracted by the framework. I'm not here to try to tell you that this framework is better than any other. And I'd probably go as far as to say that most frameworks are pretty much doing the same job. The I break that job down into three things. Number one, revealing the hidden practice of agent coding. Number two, making the work of the agent reviewable, both its reasoning and its output. And number three, training the engineer in effective delegation with the agent. A beginner might throw one prompt to rewrite the whole codebase in Rust. But a more experienced engineer will know to take that step by step.
案例研究:Lucy、Antoine和Dale
David House: 我们的第二个案例是Lucy,她有四年的工程经验。Lucy在加入G2I之前的一份工作中就开始使用编码智能体。她成功地编写了一个迁移脚本,如果你了解Vit和barrel files,你就知道这有多难。智能体可以自动化那些无聊的工作,并且智能体可以构建一个包含大量判断的脚本。
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David House: Our second case is Lucy who has four years of engineer an engineering experience. Lucy got started with coding agents in a prior job to G2I. She had success writing a migration script from uh if any of you know about Vit and know about barrel files, you know exactly what how hard this is. The agent could automate the boring stuff and the agent could build a script that encoded a lot of judgment.
David House: 接着,Lucy在该项目上的成功促使她从一开始就尝试使用智能体来处理一个非常复杂的个人项目。但她最终得到了大量重复的代码,她不理解的代码,以及太多无法审查的代码。而且,她使用的技术她也不熟悉。这让她工作起来非常具有挑战性,也非常令人沮丧。当她加入G2I时,我们使用的框架告诉她一些事后看来显而易见的事情,那就是你必须告诉智能体做正确的事情。你必须告诉智能体编写测试。你必须告诉智能体运行测试并确保它们通过。所以她了解到智能体编程的实践是,将你作为工程师的判断构建到提示和审查机制中。她说她不会想当然地认为智能体会做你想要的事情。
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David House: Then Lucy's success on that project motivated her to give agents a try from the very beginning with a very complex personal project. But she ended up with a lot of duplicated code. Code that she didn't understand code that was too much to review and this was also a using technologies that she wasn't unfamiliar with. It was very challenging to work with and very demoralizing. When she joined G2I, the framework that we used told her something that felt obvious in hindsight, which is that you have to tell the agent to do the right thing. You have to tell the agent to write tests. You have to tell the agent to run the tests and make sure that they're passing. So she learned that the the practice of agentic programming is make is building the judgment you have about how to be an engineer into prompts and into the review mechanisms. She said that she does not take for granted that the agent will do what you want.
David House: 所以Lucy使用了G2框架几个月,但她现在不再使用该框架了。现在Lucy的方法更注重访谈。她会花大量时间与智能体来回交流,不一定使用严格的提示流程,不一定期望特定的文档结果,但她相信在这次访谈中,她能够尽可能多地构建判断。她能够在访谈过程中引导智能体,她也不一定相信自己能完美地提供信息。所以访谈循环帮助她记起她忘记说的事情。
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David House: So Lucy used the G2 framework for months, but she doesn't use the framework anymore. Now Lucy's method is much more interview focused. She'll spend a lot of time going back and forth with the agent, not necessarily using a strict prompt flow, not necessarily expecting a specific documentation result, but she trusts that during this interview, she's able to build in as much judgment as she possibly can. She's able to steer the agent during the interview, and she also doesn't necessarily trust herself to be a perfect provider of information. So the interview loop helps her remember the things that she had forgotten to say.
David House: 案例Antoine。Antoine已经做了15年工程师。他是一位创业公司创始人,而且他非常细致。Antoine在G2I以能够完成任何事情而闻名。无论是什么,无论有多难,只要是我们需要做的,Antoine都能做到。所以,我们非常小心地引导他的注意力。Antoine的技能和对细节的关注意味着,当他与智能体协作时,他非常专注于结果。他早期使用智能体的经历非常令人失望。他意识到他需要保持警惕,审查输出的代码让他明白他需要非常谨慎。所以他从早期接触智能体转向了过度警惕,这削弱了他从编码智能体中获得的价值。
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David House: Xcase Antoine. Antoine's been an engineer for 15 years. He's a startup founder and he is meticulous. Antoine is someone who has a reputation at G2I for being able to get anything done. No matter what it is, no matter how hard it is, it's something we have to do. Antoine can do it. So, we end up being very careful about where we direct his attention. Antoine's skill and attention to detail meant that when he was working with agents, he was very focused on the results. His early experiences with agents were very disappointing. He realized he needed to be vigilant and reviewing the code as output taught him that he needed to be very cautious. So he swung from early exposure with agents to hyper vigilance that diminished the value that he could get from coding agents.
David House: 但当他加入G2I时,TDD(测试驱动开发)技能显著改善了输出,这增强了他的信任,使他能够信任智能体做更多事情,从而获得了更好的结果,这又进一步增强了他的信任。他仍然持怀疑态度,但他的怀疑已经变得更具情境特异性。他现在继续使用智能体流程,但听他谈论时,他无法具体描述他现在的方式与以前有何不同。他谈到了数百种细微差别,他的判断力是随着时间,通过与智能体协作,审查它们的输出而建立起来的,这些技能对于他今天编写代码至关重要。
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David House: But when he joined G2I, the TDD skill significantly improved the output, which improved his trust, which allowed him to trust the agent to do more, which gave him better results, which improved his trust. And he's still skeptical, but he's tuned his skepticism to be more context specific. He now continues to use the agentic flow, but to hear him talk about it, he he can't necessarily describe how the way he does it now is different than the way that he did it prior. He talks about the the hundred nuances in ways that his judgment built over time working with agents, reviewing their output has built skills that are essential to how he writes code today.
David House: 我们的第三个案例是Dale。Dale做了大约四年工程师。他第一次接触AI是使用ChatGPT进行编码。当时我正在和Dale一起工作。我们都在一个PHP代码库中工作。我们俩都不太擅长PHP。我当时说:“嘿,Dale,你可以用ChatGPT来解释集合。你可以用ChatGPT来解释Laravel。它会对你无限耐心,无限时间。我有很多耐心,但我没有很多时间。”所以他向它寻求代码理解方面的帮助,但不是实际编写代码。和Ava类似,Dale非常担心声誉风险。他也不相信智能体有足够的信息。所以对于ChatGPT,他知道智能体,并且直观地知道智能体无法读取整个代码库。所以他每次都不确定输出是否与可用上下文不符。当时他也比较初级。这是几年前的事了。所以他不相信自己能真正验证Apache PT输出的正确性。
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David House: Our third case here is Dale. Dale's been an engineer for about four years. His first experience with AI was using chat GPT for coding. Um I was actually working with Dale at the time. We were both both working in a PHP codebase. Neither of us were very good at PHP. And I was like, "Hey Dale, you can use chat GPT to explain collections. You can use chatgpt to explain Laravel. Uh it will it will have infinite patience for you and infinite time. I had lots of patience, but I didn't have a lot of time. So he asked her for help with code uh understanding it but not actually writing it. Similar to Ava, Dale was very concerned about reputational risk. He didn't trust he also didn't trust that the agent had enough information. So with chat GPT he knew that the agent and intuitively he knew that the agent couldn't read the whole codebase. So he was unsure always every single time whether or not the output was misaligned based on the available context. He was also more junior at the time. This is a few years ago. So he didn't trust that he could actually validate the correctness of what was being output by Apache PT.
David House: 当Dale加入G2I时,他有点犹豫。但他清楚地知道,他需要弄清楚这一点才能成功。他早期在使用智能体方面取得了一些成功,但后来有点脱轨,最终提交了一个10,000行的PR。他想,好吧,智能体可以完成整个史诗级任务,对吧?所以,就让它完成整个史诗级任务,然后很快就发现那不一定是个好主意。他学会了缩小委托范围,并确保智能体不会脱离他的控制。现在,与Antoine和Lucy不同,Dale已经脱离了框架,但他今天的提示方式与框架非常相似。他不再使用技能来生成一个文档作为输入,而是自己编写整个文档。他编码了框架默认包含的相同护栏(guard rails)和判断。他现在直观地知道要自己包含它们。然后他可以利用自己的判断力来更精确地提供指导。所以他会花20分钟用自己的话编写这个提示,但他足够信任智能体,也足够信任自己的委托技能,以至于当他按下回车键时,他会很高兴地走开,然后回来审查一个PR,就像审查他队友的PR一样。
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David House: When Dale joined G2I, he was a little hesitant. But it was clear that it was clear to him that he needed to figure this out in order to be successful. He had some early successes with agents, but went a little off the rails and ended up with a 10,000line PR. He figured, okay, well, the agent can do the whole epic, right? So, let's just have it do the whole epic and then learned very quickly that that's not necessarily a very good idea. He learned to narrow the scope of his delegation and make sure that he could that the agent wouldn't get away from him. Now, differently than I think Antoine, differently than Lucy, Dale has moved away from the framework, but his way of prompting today is very very similar to it. Instead of using the skills to generate a document that is then used as input, Dale writes the entire document himself. And he encodes the same guard rails and judgments that the framework made sure to include by default. He knows now intuitively to include them himself. And he can then use his judgment to be even more precise about the guidance. So then he spends 20 minutes in his own words writing this prompt, but he trusts the agent well enough and he trusts his own delegation skills well enough that when he hits enter, he's very happy to walk away and come back to a PR that he'll review as though it was a PR from his teammate.
David House: 所以我认为我想表达的观点是,成功的采纳是关于这些实践的内化。工程师们刚开始与智能体协作时,描述了无力感。他们描述了某种对情况做出反应,而不是必然引导输出的感觉。但随着工程师们对智能体了解更多,他们学会了如何掌握主导权。你可以说他们学会了自主性。
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David House: So I think the point I'm trying to make is that successful adoption is about internalization of these practices. The engineers when they started working with agents described feelings of disempowerment. They described feelings of sort of reacting to situations, not necessarily steering the output. But as the engineers learn more about agents, they learned how to be the ones in the driver's seat. You could say they learned agency.
初级工程师与AI智能体
David House: 但初级工程师呢?当我听到人们谈论初级工程师时,我通常会听到两种情况。我听到的是,如果你找到一个已经学会AI的初级工程师,那你就搞定了,没问题。谢谢。但如果你没有,那么初级工程师就完蛋了。所以,这又是另一种两极分化。要么你找到一个已经学会这些技能的人,要么你不知道该怎么办。所以,我认为我们可以做得更好。
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David House: But what about junior engineers? When I hear talk people talk about junior engineers, I tend to hear one of two things. I hear if you find a uh a junior engineer who has already learned AI that you're set. It's fine. Thanks. But if you don't, then juniors are screwed. So again, it's another one of these polarities. Either you find someone who's already learned the skills or you don't know what to do. So I think we can do better than this.
David House: Andy是我们团队的一员,刚大学毕业。他使用AI的全部经验就是被他的老师告知不要使用它,但他的导师鼓励他更细致一些。他的导师不得不强迫他像导师一样使用AI,因为他花了很多时间在辅导中心。他乐于让AI增强他的理解,但在整个学校期间,他为他的作业编写了每一行代码。当他加入G2I时,这完全是一种文化冲击。当Andy看到比他经验丰富的资深工程师成功使用智能体时,他开始重新审视自己的犹豫。但他不一定相信自己能成为一个指导者。这有充分的理由。他没有在这一领域花费大量时间。他没有开发很多软件。他没有犯过那些错误。
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David House: Andy is a member of our team, fresh out of college. His whole experience with AI was being told not to use it by his faculty, but his tutor tutors encouraged him to be a little more nuanced. His tutors had to coers him into using AI like a tutor because he was spending a lot of time at the at the tutoring center. He was open to having AI augment his understanding, but all throughout school, he wrote every single line of code that he submitted for his assignments. When he joined G2I, it was a total culture shock. Andy started to reexamine his hesitancy when he saw senior engineers with much more experience than he had finding success using agents. but he didn't necessarily trust himself to be a guide. And for good reason. He hadn't spent a lot of time in the field. He hadn't built a lot of software. He hadn't made the mistakes.
David House: 但他发现让他更成功的是,当他让一位资深工程师参与到他的工作中时。所以如果你记得,我们在G2I有一个智能体框架,你使用技能进行文档交接。他会在开始编写任何代码之前,将文档提交PR,并获得团队资深成员的评审。这使得资深工程师可以将他们的判断编码到文档中,从而使文档更成功,使他的实现更成功,同时也提供了一个教学机会和指导机会。
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David House: But what he found made him much more successful was when he brought a senior engineer into the loop of his work. So if you remember we have this agentic framework at G2I where you use skills to do document handoffs. He would take the documents before he gets into any code, put just the documents up for PR and get reviews from senior members of the team. that allowed the senior engineers to encode their judgment into the documents which made the docs more successful, made his implementations more successful, but also served as a teaching opportunity and a mentorship opportunity.
David House: 另外,Andy正在寻找他的下一份工作。所以,如果你想见他,请告诉我,但不要等,因为他已经在面试了。所以,不要放弃初级工程师。Andy在三个月内成为了团队的稳定贡献者,尽管他是团队中唯一的初级工程师。初级工程师仍然需要指导。但智能体加速了这一过程,因为当所有资深工程师都忙于自己的实现任务时,它们可以充当工程师的导师,智能体也加速了这种指导。因为初级工程师创建的文档可以作为高层次、高杠杆的评审工件,从而使实现更加成功,建立初级工程师的信心。引用他的一位同事的话:“听到这是你毕业后的第一份工作,我感到震惊。你完全融入了那些有十年经验的人之中。这太不可思议了。”
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David House: Also, Andy is looking for the next his next gig. So, let me know if you want to meet him, but don't wait because he's already interviewing. So, don't give up on juniors. Andy became a steady contributor in three months on the team despite being the only junior engineer on the team. Junior engineers still need mentorship. But agents expedite that because they can serve as tutors for the engineers when all the senior engineers are busy with their own implementation tasks and agents expedite that mentorship as well. Because the documents that the junior engineers create can serve as highlevel high leverage review artifacts where then the implementation can be much more successful building the confidence of the junior engineer. To quote one of his colleagues, quote, I was shocked to hear this was your first role out of school. You fit right in alongside folks with 10 years of experience. That's incredible.
David House: 很多人都相信软件工程的末日。也许我们正处于软件工程职业变得无关紧要的时间线上。也许这是真的。但如果所有试图预测未来的人都错了呢?我们今天所做的事情很重要。我希望我们回顾一下我们如何处理这项工作,以及我们如何从为所有人打开大门的立场来处理我们的领域。我不想放弃那些犹豫不决的人。我不想放弃那些内心冲突的人。我不想放弃那些没有被展示如何成功使用这些工具的人。我无意让任何人掉队。所以,如果你愿意,你可以尝试这个框架,但再次强调,不要被框架分心。使用Beam Aad。使用RPI或我昨天记不住的那个在RPI上添加更多字母的缩写。Krispy。是的。尝试一个能让你放慢速度的框架,这样你就可以审查输出。
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David House: So many people are convinced that of software engineering doom. Maybe we're on a timeline where the profession of software engineering becomes irrelevant. Maybe that's true. But what if everyone trying to predict the future got it wrong? what we do today matters. I want us to look back on how we're approaching this work and how we're approaching our field from the standpoint of opening doors for everyone. I don't want to give up on the hesitant. I don't want to get give up on the conflicted. I don't want to give up on the people who haven't had that experience of being shown how to be successful with these tools. I'm not interested in leaving anyone behind. So you can try the framework if you want, but again don't be distracted by the framework. Use Beam Aad. Use RPI or the acronym that add more letters to RPI that I can't remember from yesterday. Krispy. Yes. Try a framework that slows you down so you can review the output.
主持人: 谢谢你,David。
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主持人: Thank you, David.
LLM推理延迟与Codeex Spark
主持人: 那么,每个人都想运行最新的模型,对吧?参数更多、更花哨的模型,而这最终会非常昂贵,而且我们有巨大的债务,那就是延迟债务(latency debt)。下一位演讲者将拯救我们摆脱这种债务。请欢迎Cerebras的DevX负责人Sarah Chang上台。
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主持人: So everybody wants to run the latest model, right? The fancier one with more parameters and that ends up being very costly and we have tremendous debt and that's latency debt. The next speaker is here to save us from that debt. Please welcome to the stage Sarah Chiang, head of DevX at Cerebras.
Sarah Chang: 好的,早上好,各位。我和我的团队实际上刚从加利福尼亚过来,所以这是一场不错的早上6:30的演讲。但是很高兴来到这里,我很兴奋。好的,最近我一直在学习各种各样的新词汇。像“coitating”、“reticulating”、“schleing”这样的词。你们有些人知道这会走向何方。我学习所有这些词的原因不是出于选择,而是因为每次我尝试使用Claude Code时,我都会得到这些词,持续大约35分钟。我还会得到“writing”、“waiting”和“thinking”,但我们已经知道这些词了。如果你们最近有人一直在玩LLM或使用它们,你们可能也有过非常相似的经历。代码生成缓慢。我们编写大量的提示。我们提交大量的差异,或者老实说,我们按下回车键,然后去吃午饭,回来祈祷它已经完成。这令人沮丧。它扼杀了AI编码的火花和乐趣。今天我们将讨论为什么会发生这一切。
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Sarah Chang: Sweet. Well, good morning everyone. I um me and my team, we actually just came from California, so it's it's a nice 6:30 a.m. talk. Um, but it's great to be here and uh I'm excited. All right, so recently I've been learning a wide variety of new vocabulary words. Coitating words like reticulating, schleing. Some of you know where this is going. And the reason I've been learning all of these words is not by choice, but because every time that I try to use claude code, I get these words for like 35 minutes. And I also get, you know, writing and waiting and thinking, but we already know those words. And if any of you guys have been playing around with LLMs or using them recently, you've probably had a pretty similar experience. Slow code generation. We write massive prompts. We submit massive diffs or honestly we hit enter and we go on our lunch break and we come back and pray it's done. It's frustrating. It kills the sparks and joys of AI coding. And today we're going to talk about why this is all happening.
Sarah Chang: 我的名字是Sarah Chang。我是Cerebras的开发者体验负责人,我们正在构建世界上最大、最快的AI处理器。我工作的一个重要部分是首次向开发者介绍快速编码。这是一项非常激动人心的工作,因为我们经常会听到很多“哦”、“啊”和“天哪,这竟然存在”的感叹。在Cerebras之外,我还在YouTube、TikTok和Twitter上创作内容。
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Sarah Chang: So my name is Sarah Chang. I am the head of developer experience at Cerebrus and we are building the world's largest and fastest AI processor. And a big part of my job is introducing developers to fast coding for the very first time. And it's a very exciting job because oftentimes we get a lot of oo and a's and oh my god this exists. And outside of cerebrus I also create content on YouTube and Tik Tok and Twitter.
Sarah Chang: 所以在我们深入探讨所有令人沮丧和出错的事情之前,让我们先谈谈所有进展顺利的惊人之处。在过去的几年里,我们看到模型变得越来越大。我们已经从0.3亿参数的模型发展到1万亿以上参数的模型。其中很多也是开源模型。正如你所想象的,这也意味着我们正在获得更智能的模型。上下文窗口也变得越来越大。如果你愿意,你可以将数百万个token的上下文塞进你的模型。令人兴奋的是,我们实际上看到开发者正在使用这种上下文。
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Sarah Chang: So before we dive into everything that is frustrating and going wrong, let's talk about all the amazing things that are going right. So in the last few years we have seen models get so much bigger. We have gone from models that are.3 billion parameters to over 1 trillion parameters. And a lot of these are open source models too. And as you can imagine this also means we're getting much smarter models. Context windows are also getting much bigger. If you so desire, you can shove millions of tokens worth of context into your model. And what's exciting is that we're actually seeing developers use this context.
Sarah Chang: 这是一项由Open Router和A16Z进行的研究。Open Router是一个用于LLM的统一API层。他们进行了一项研究,采样了100万亿个token的真实世界token,涵盖了不同的用例和功能。他们发现,仅在过去一年中,输入token长度就增加了四倍。另一方面,输出token也变得更大了。因此,过去一年中,每个提示的输出token数量也增加了3倍。我们可以看到,这不仅是因为我们的模型输出了最终答案,还因为我们输出了推理token。推理token是模型在逐步思考最终答案之前输出的中间token。我们还可以看到,这与推理模型的兴起很好地结合在一起。因此,在过去一年中,我们有很多令人难以置信的推理模型。所以我们的模型变得更智能,我们的模型变得更大。所有这些都是好消息。
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Sarah Chang: So this is a study by Open Router and A16Z. Open Router is a unified API layer for LLMs. And they did a study where they sampled 100 trillion tokens worth of real world tokens across different use cases and capabilities. And what they saw is that input token links have gotten three times bigger, sorry, four times bigger in the last year alone. And on the flip side of that, output tokens have also gotten so much bigger. So the number of output tokens per prompt has also increased by 3x in the last year. And we can see this is because not only are our models outputting the final answer, but we're also outputting reasoning tokens. And so reasoning tokens are the intermediate tokens that a model will output when it's thinking step by step before producing the final answer. And we can see this coupled nicely with the rise of reasoning models as well. And so we've had a lot of incredible reasoning models over the last year. And so our models are getting smarter. Our models are getting bigger. All of this is wonderful news.
Sarah Chang: 我的朋友们,这简直是人类有史以来建造的最好的技术。现在让我们看看这项最好的技术是如何运作的。这是Opus 4.5在做一个非常简单的HTML贪吃蛇游戏。抱歉,游戏很糟糕。很尴尬。你们都希望可以出去吃点零食,但你们不能。如果这是在Claude Code中,我们就会在这里学习新词汇。这会持续几分钟,我不会让你们感到无聊,但我很无聊。你们可能也很无聊。事实证明,如果你一直在玩LLM,你可能也有过非常相似的经历。
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Sarah Chang: And this, my friends, is quite literally the best technology that humans have ever built. And so now let's look at this best technology in action. This is Opus 4.5 doing a very simple HTML snake game. Sorry, poor game. Awkward. You all wish you could go leave for a snack, but you can't. And this is if this was in Claude Code, this is where we'd be learning new vocabulary words. This goes on for minutes and I won't bore you, but I'm bored. You're probably bored. And as it turns out, if you've been playing with LLMs, you've probably had a very similar experience.
Sarah Chang: 但不幸的是,伴随着所有这些激动人心的创新,有一个非常不令人兴奋的副作用。我喜欢称之为延迟债务。所以,当我们一直在创新所有这些模型时,它们变得更大,它们变得更智能,我们输入了更多的token,输出了更多的token,我们在优化模型速度超过基础设施的同时,积累了隐藏的成本。我的意思是,现在如果我们看看我们在许多方面都取得了进步,但现在让我们看看过去两年的速度。我们看看Gemini家族,我们看看Claude家族,Sonic模型,我们的速度保持不变。我们一直保持在每秒50到150个token之间。现在请记住,即使你的速度保持不变,如果输入token的数量增加,输出token的数量也增加,那么你的提示完成所需的总时间也会增加。当它增加时,开发者体验就会下降。
Original English
Sarah Chang: But unfortunately with all of this exciting innovation, there's a very unexciting side effect. And I like to call that side effect latency debt. So while we've been innovating on all these models, they've gotten bigger, they've gotten more intelligent, we put more tokens in, there's more tokens out, we have accumulated a hidden cost while optimizing our models faster than our infrastructure. And what I mean by that is that now if we look at all we've improved on so many fronts but now let's look at speed over the past two years we look at the Gemini families we look at the Claude families the Sonic models our speed has stayed the same we have always stayed between 50 to 150 tokens per second and now remember that even if your speed stays the same if the number of input tokens increases and the number of output tokens increases then the total total time that it's going to take for your prompt to complete is also going to increase. And when that increases, the developer experience decreases.
Sarah Chang: 所以现在,这是激动人心的部分。现在我要告诉你们,所有这一切都将改变。事实上,它正在改变。多年来我们积累了如此多的延迟,现在我们有了解决方案。大约一个月前,我们Cerebras和OpenAI合作发布了Codex Spark。它是第一个最先进的编码模型,可以以每秒2,200个token的速度生成代码。从这个角度来看,这比你们在这里看到的任何东西都要快20倍。不仅如此,Codex Spark只是未来众多模型中的第一个,我们可以期待它们比我们以前遇到的任何模型都要快一个阶跃函数。因此,我们不仅解锁了新的功能、工作流程和用例,而且这从根本上改变了我们作为开发者与编码模型互动的方式。你不再是按下回车键然后离开,而是可以真正地与编码模型坐下来。把它当作一个结对程序员。验证输出,引导它。你不再需要生成机器级别的代码。产生技术债务。现在你可以真正验证你的代码。你不需要创建糟糕的代码。所以现在让我们再次看看那个图表。让我们看看Codex Spark。它太快了,我们不得不调整Y轴。请记住,Codex Spark只是未来众多模型中的第一个,我们可以期待它们比我们以前遇到的任何模型都要快一个阶跃函数。在这一点上,这是一个彻底的制度变革。我们正在进入一个快速推理的时代。现在我们正在进入一个编码模型可以比我们人类跟上速度更快的时代。现在我们是瓶颈。
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Sarah Chang: And so now, this is the exciting part. So now is when I get to tell you that all of this is about to change. In fact, it is changing. We've accumulated so much latency over the years. And now we have a solution. So about a month ago, we at Cerebras and OpenAI partnered up to release Codex Spark. It's the first state-of-the-art coding model that can generate code at,200 tokens per second. And to put that into perspective, that is 20 times faster than anything you're seeing here. And not only that, but Codeex Spark is just the first of many future models that we can expect to be a step function faster than anything that we've been frustrated with before. And so not only are we unlocking new capabilities and workflows and use cases, but this also fundamentally changes how we as developers can interact with the coding model. No longer do you hit enter and you leave, but now you can actually sit down with the code coding model. Treat it like a pair programmer. Verify the outputs, steer it. No longer do you have to generate machine levels of code. Develop technical debt. Now you can actually verify your code. You don't have to create bad code. And so now let's look at that same graph again. And let's look at codec spark. It's so much faster that we had to adjust the y-axis. And remember codec spark is just the first of many future models that we can expect to be a step function faster. And at this point it's a complete regime change. We are entering a regime of fast inference. And now we are entering a regime where the coding model can code faster than we humans can keep up with. Now we are the bottleneck.
延迟债务的成因与解决方案
Sarah Chang: 那么,为什么会发生这种情况呢?我们多年来一直在积累这种延迟债务。但是现在突然发生了什么,使得这一切成为可能?所以,令人兴奋的部分是,这是因为整个推理堆栈正在同时进行优化。在座的许多人可能在日常工作中也为此做出了贡献。所以让我们分解一下。让我们花点时间。让我们从最底层开始:硬件。硬件是速度得以实现的物理原因。它是推理和训练的一切。所有工作负载都在其上的物理设备。对于硬件,最大的考虑因素之一是我喜欢称之为内存墙。所以在推理过程中,我们有内存移动,但我们有权重、KV缓存值等在内存和实际芯片之间移动。在像GPU这样的传统硬件上,所有这些内存都存储在芯片外。所以我们不断地在芯片内和芯片外移动所有这些值。而这种内存移动就是为什么硬件占总推理延迟的50%到80%。
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Sarah Chang: And so why is this happening? We've been accumulating this latency debt for so many years. But what is suddenly happening right now that is making all this possible? So the exciting part is that it's because the entire inference stack is getting optimized all at once. And many of you in the audience are probably contributing to this in your day-to-day work. And so let's break it down. Let's take some moments. Let's start with the very bottom. The hardware. Hardware is the physical reason that speed is possible. It is the inference and training everything. The physical device that all of the workloads are on. With hardware, one of the biggest considerations is what I like to call the memory wall. So during inference, we have memory movement, but we have the movement of weights, KV cache values, etc. between the memory and the actual chip. On traditional hardware like the GPU, all of this memory is stored off chip. And so we're constantly moving all of these values between on and off the chip. And that memory movement is why the hardware is accounting for 50 to 80% of the total inference latency.
Sarah Chang: 我们现在看到的新方法是,我们正在思考如何尽可能减少这种内存移动。这是一个Cerebras构建我们自己的AI处理器的例子,我们不是将内存存储在芯片外,而是将所有权重、激活、KV缓存值存储在芯片上的分布式SRAM中,这样每个实际进行计算的核心都可以直接访问它所需的所有值。
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Sarah Chang: What we're now seeing newer approaches to is we're thinking about how can we reduce this memory movement as much as possible. This is an example by Cerebrris building our own version of the AI processor where instead of storing our memory off chip all of our weights and activations KV cache values we're storing them on chip in a distributed SRAMM so that every single core that's actually doing the computation has direct access to all of the values that it needs.
Sarah Chang: 更令人兴奋的是解耦推理的商业化。这就是为什么Nvidia几个月前以200亿美元收购了Grock。这也是为什么Cerebras和AWS刚刚发布合作,共同提供Cerebras的晶圆级引擎(wafer scale engine)和AWS Tranium。什么是解耦推理?在传统推理中,我们有两个步骤:预填充(prefill)和解码(decode)。在预填充中,我们实际处理所有输入token,并且可以并行执行。我们嵌入它们并将它们添加到我们的KV缓存中。所以这个步骤是计算密集型的。我们的第二个步骤,解码,是我们实际逐个生成每个输出token的时候。这是顺序执行的,并且像我们之前谈到的那样是内存密集型的。所以我们有两个具有根本不同需求的步骤。我们一直都在同一块硬件上提供它们。但现在不再是了。现在我们将其拆分,以便解码发生在内存优化的硬件上,而预填充发生在计算优化的硬件上。
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Sarah Chang: Even more exciting the commercialization of disagregated inference. This is why Nvidia bought Grock for $20 billion a few months ago. And this is also why Cerebrus and AWS just released a partnership to serve the Cerebrus wafers scale engine and the train AWS tranium together. What disagregated inference is so in traditional inference we have two steps. We have prefill and we have decode. In prefill is when we're actually processing all of those input tokens and we can do this in parallel. We're embedding them and adding them to our KV cache. So this step is computebound. Our second step, decode, is when we're actually generating every output token token by token. This is sequential and this is memory bound like what we were talking about before. And so we have two different steps with very fundamentally different requirements. And we've always been serving them on the same piece of hardware. Well, no more. And now we're splitting it up so that decode is happening on memory optimized hardware and prefill is happening on commute optimized hardware.
Sarah Chang: 现在让我们向上移动堆栈:模型架构。我们有许多方法来调整我们的模型,使其特别适合我们必须运行的硬件。我们考虑模型的大小、形状、层数、维度。这并不是特别新,但这是一个很好的例子。所以专家混合模型(mixture of experts)是,我们不是为每个token激活整个模型,而只激活一小部分专家。这给了我们一个更大的模型的智能,但计算成本却是一个小得多的模型。我们总是考虑内存,就像我们之前谈论的硬件一样。但最近,我们看到模型研究人员正在在此基础上进行构建,所以我们看到了许多令人兴奋的新进展,关于如何使我们的模型更好地适应我们的硬件,特别是为了速度。这里有一个例子是reap router weighted expert activation pruning。这是一个很长的名字,我们不是再次激活整个模型,而是查看一个特定的用例。我们看到哪些专家被激活了,我们只是询问并移除那些我们不需要的专家。
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Sarah Chang: And now let's move up the stack. the model architecture. There's so many ways that we have adapted our models for the hardware that we have to run especially well on the hardware that we have. We think about model size, shape, the layers, the dimensions. And so isn't particularly new, but this is a great example of one way that we're doing that. So are mixture of experts is where instead of activating the entire model for every single token, we only activate a small subset of experts. And what this gives us is the intelligence of a much larger model for the compute cost of a much smaller model. Again, we're always thinking about memory, just like the hardware thing we're talking about before. But more recently, what we're seeing is that models researchers are building on top of so we're seeing a lot of exciting new advancements for how we can make our models fit even better on our hardware, especially for speed. And an example here is reap router weighted expert activation pruning. mouthful where instead of activating again the entire model, we're looking at a specific use case. We're seeing what experts are activated and we're just asking and removing and pruning the ones that we don't need.
Sarah Chang: 现在,最后一步是推理优化。同样,这可能是你们很多人正在从事的工作。Philip昨天在Base 10做了一个很棒的演讲。这就是B10、Modal、Together、Fireworks等公司都在努力的地方。在这个层面上,最大的考虑因素之一是KV缓存重用。通过存储和重用先前计算的token表示,我们无需每次都重新计算整个序列的注意力。
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Sarah Chang: And now the final layer of the step is inference optimization. Again, this is where a lot of you are probably working on. Philip gave a great talk from base 10 yesterday. This is where companies like B 10, modal, together, fireworks are all working. And one of the biggest considerations at this level is the KV cache reuse. So by storing and reusing previously computed token representations, we don't have to recomputee attention over the entire sequence every single time.
Sarah Chang: 所以所有这些都是我们一直在进行的投资,所有这些都是我们正在慢慢看到成果的投资。这太不可思议了。我们积累了多年的延迟债务,现在看看我们身处何处。所以现在我想向你们展示一个最先进的模型在最先进的AI优化硬件上的表现。同样,这是同一个双人台球游戏,但这次它运行在Cerebras自己的硬件版本晶圆级引擎3上,所以它没有运行在GPU上。这是Codex Spark在Codex内部。它完成了。就是这样。
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Sarah Chang: And so all of this are investments that we've been making and all of this are investments that we're slowly starting to see come to fruition. And it's incredible. We've had this latency debt that we've accumulated for years and now look at where we're at now. So now I want to show you what a state-of-the-art model looks like on a state-of-the-art AI optimized hardware. Again, it's the same two-player pool game, but this time it's running on this. It's running, this is the wafer scale engine 3, Cubris's own version of our hardware, and so it's not running on GPUs. And this is Codex Spark inside of Codex. And it's done. There it is.
Sarah Chang: 如果你们仍然不相信我关于延迟是真实存在的,你们可能相信,但为了确保万无一失,让我们看看钱。让我们看看过去六个月里,行业内最大的公司把钱投向了哪里。首先,Google对阵Nvidia。Google发布了TPU,比Nvidia GPU快四倍。这是Nvidia最大的客户在基础设施层面进行投资。我们有Google和Anthropic。然后发生了什么?Anthropic进来购买了那些TPU,价值数百亿美元。正如我之前提到的,Nvidia以200亿美元收购了Grock。这是Nvidia有史以来最大的一笔收购。Grock一直在构建LPU,他们自己的更快AI处理器版本。最近,也是最令人兴奋的是,OpenAI收购了Cerebras的硬件。这发生在几个月前,Codex Spark是他们在此次合作中发布的第一个模型。再次强调,我们可以期待未来会有更多模型实现阶跃函数式的更快延迟。所以我们可以看到所有这些内存移动,因为令人兴奋的是,延迟债务一直在缓慢积累。我们看到最大的参与者不仅认识到延迟债务,而且投资于延迟债务。现在我们看到这项投资正在获得回报。
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Sarah Chang: And if you still don't believe me about light and sees real, you probably do, but just to be, you know, sure, let's look at the money. Let's look at where the biggest companies in the industry are putting their money over the last six months. Number one, Google versus Nvidia. Google releases the TPU four times faster than the Nvidia GPU. This is Nvidia's biggest customer investing in the infrastructure level. We have Google and Anthropic. Then what happens? Anthropic comes in and buys those TPUs, tens of billions of dollars worth of it. As I previously mentioned, Grock had been Nvidia bought Grock for $20 billion. This was Nvidia's biggest purchase ever. Grock had been building the LPU, their own version of a faster AI processor. And most recently, and most excitingly, not biased at all, OpenAI buying Cerebra's hardware. And this happened a few months ago, Codex Spark was the first model that they released in this partnership. And again, we can expect many future models to be the step function faster latency. And so we can see all this memory movement because what's exciting is that latency debt has been slowly accumulating. We saw the biggest players not only recognize latency debt but invest in latency debt. And now we're seeing that investment pay off.
Sarah Chang: 所以现在,当我们思考我们正在进入的这些新时代,当我们思考进入这个模型编码速度比我们跟上速度更快的新范式时,我想让我们回顾一下我们过去的时代。在1985年,现在是历史课了。我们从定制硬件转向了CPU。为什么?因为我们的工作负载改变了。我们从科学模拟和数学转向了需要高度可编程的软件应用程序。在2003年,我们的工作负载再次改变。现在我们有了机器学习和图形处理。所以,我们的基础设施再次改变。我们从CPU转向了GPU,因为现在我们关心的是高水平的并行化。我们现在在哪里?我们现在是2026年,我们的工作负载再次改变。我们现在有了多智能体系统。我们正在构建500多个智能体群,人机协作,智能体工作流程,我们的需求再次改变。令人兴奋的是,我们已经看到人们在这个层面上进行了投资。我们已经看到人们投资于基础设施。而现在,所有这些投资正在获得回报。
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Sarah Chang: And so now as we think about these new eras that we're entering and we're thinking about entering this new regime where the model codes faster than we can keep up with, I want us to take a little trip down memory lane at previous eras that we have. So in 1985, it's a history lesson now. We switched from custom hardware to CPUs. Why? Because our workload changed. We went from scientific simulations and mathematics to needing highly programmable creating highly programmable software apps. In 2003, our workload changed again. Now we have machine learning and graphics processing. So once again, our infrastructure changed. We went from CPUs to GPUs because now we cared about high levels of parallelization. Where are we now? We're in 2026 and once again our workload is changing. We are now we have multi- aent systems. We're building 500 plus agent swarms, human in the loop, agentic workflows and once again our requirements change. And what's exciting is that we've already seen people invest on this level. We've seen people invest in the infrastructure. And now right now is when all of that is paying off.
Sarah Chang: 我无法充分表达现在作为一名开发者是多么令人兴奋。不是今年,不是这个月,就是今天,因为我们正处于一个阶跃变化之中,我们正在进入一个新范式,其中编码和开发者体验将变得更好。我想强调的是,这不仅仅是关于更快的模型,而是关于开发者体验将要改变的事实。我们作为开发者与模型互动的方式将改变,我们不再生成糟糕代码的能力也将改变。
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Sarah Chang: I cannot communicate enough how exciting it is to be a developer right now. not this year, this month, this day because we are right in the middle of a step change as we enter a new paradigm where the coding and developer experience is going to get so much better. And the thing that I want to emphasize is that it's not just about faster models, but it's about the fact that the developer experience is going to change. The way that we as developers interact with the models are going to change, and our ability to not no longer produce bad code is going to change.
Sarah Chang: 所以,非常感谢大家。我的名字是Sarah Chang。如果你们有任何积分需求或任何问题,请联系我。我的社交媒体账号是Milks and Matcha。谢谢大家。
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Sarah Chang: So, thank you guys so much. My name is Sarah Chang. Um, if you have any credits, if you need any credits or have any questions, reach out to me. Um, my handle is Milks and Matcha across the board. Thank you.
移动设备上的环境生成式AI
主持人: 好的,那是Sarah的一次精彩演讲。好的,下一位演讲者是Le。有趣的是,如果这里停电,Le可能是最有可能存活下来的人,因为他带着各种小工具。他甚至有手电筒。他有指示笔,激光笔,而且Keith的LLM模型都部署在他的手机NPU上。所以即使这里没有Wi-Fi,他也能活下来。所以我很兴奋能听到他是怎么做到的。所以Le将告诉我们关于环境生成式AI以及他如何在手机MPU上部署潜在扩散模型。所以欢迎Le上台。
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主持人: All right, that was a great talk from Sarah. Okay, so our next speaker is Le. And then fun fact, I think Le might be the most likely to survive if there were a power outage here because he has all sorts of gadgets with him. He even has a flashlight. Uh he has a pointer, a laser pointer, and Keith's LLM models are deployed locally on his mobile. So even if there's no Wi-Fi out here, he will be able to make it out alive. So I'm so excited to hear how he's able to do that. So Le is going to tell us about ambient generative AI and how he deployed latent diffusion models on his mobile phone MPUs. So welcome on stage, Le
Le Kalinowski: 大家好。好的。我非常惊讶人们仍然如此受到大自然的启发。实际上,我们只是试图模仿树叶,模仿鸟类,模仿它们如何飞翔。然而,我们也试图模仿最基本的物理定律之一,那就是随机性。
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Le Kalinowski: Hello. Okay. Um I'm um I'm so surprised that people are still so much inspired by nature. Um actually uh we are just trying to mimic u leaves mimic birds uh uh mimic how they they just fly. So and uh yet we also try to mimic one of the most fundamental physical law uh which is randomness.
Le Kalinowski: 我的名字是Le Kalinowski,我是一名物理学家。我在Kstak工作,这是一家波兰公司。今天我想向大家展示我关于在移动设备上部署扩散模型的原创研究。这是一个更大的项目的一部分,与超用户体验(hyper user experiences)有关。我正在研究和开发中心工作,这意味着只是尝试创新用户界面的一部分,并努力推动AI在该领域实施的界限。
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Le Kalinowski: My name is Le Kalinowski and I am a physicist. I work in Kstak. It's a Polish uh Polish company and today I want to I want to present present to you my uh research original research about the deployment of the the diffusion models on mobile. So um this is a part of the big bigger project uh which is related to hyper user experiences. um and I'm work in the research and development center that that means just try to innovate the the part of the user interfaces and try to uh push the boundaries um push the boundaries of the implementation of AI in that area.
Le Kalinowski: 随机性在算法计算机科学中多年来一直广为人知并被使用。其中最著名的算法之一是蒙特卡洛方法,你可以用它来计算例如圆的面积,或者模拟核物理中的链式反应。今天,我只想告诉大家我为什么简单地做这个,以及我从哪里获得灵感来构建这种类型的项目。所以目前,世界上最大的AI实验室都在研究随机性。这意味着只是尝试优化和构建快速且廉价的LLM。例如,Google刚刚推出了Turboquant,而这些算法的核心就是随机性。其他一些例子,Methos每100万个token花费120美元,这是一个非常昂贵的模型。这就是为什么我们正在寻找基本定律,并试图从中获得灵感,以构建更好、更快、更优化的模型。但这就是为什么我只想尝试以尽可能最佳的方式在移动应用程序上部署扩散模型。
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Le Kalinowski: So randomness it's uh really well known and used across many of years in algorithmical computer science. So um one of the most um most famous um algorithm is the Monte Carlo method when you can just for example calculate the area of a of a circle or you can just calculate or simulate the chain reaction um in um in nuclear physics. Um and today um I just want to uh tell you uh why I just simply do this and um where I just get my inspiration to uh build that type of of project. So currently the biggest world labs in AI works with randomness. Uh what it means just try to optimize and build LLMs which are fast and cheap. So for example uh Google just introduced Turboquant and at the core of those algorithm there there is randomness. Um some kind of other examples uh methos cost like $120 spend per 1 million tokens and that's is really expensive model. This is why we are just looking for the fundamental laws and try to in be inspired by them to build um to build better, faster and more optimal models. Um but um and this is the reason why I just wanted to try to deploy the diffusion models on a mobile application in the really best possible optimal way.
Le Kalinowski: 所以我开始思考如何做到这一点,因为正如你们昨天可能从Google那里了解到的,扩散模型和图像生成确实非常困难且计算量大,这意味着你需要巨大的GPU才能生成,这需要大量时间。所以,这里有一些限制,这意味着你必须记住程序的热配置文件(thermal profile),实际上我只是有了一个想法,也许我可以使用智能手机上的NPU(神经网络处理单元)直接部署扩散模型,然后尝试在那里运行扩散推理。但这还不够。主要思想是还要摆脱通过嵌入更改文本和构建完整提示的完整管道。所以我只是把它扔掉,想到了一个主意,直接使用来自环境传感器的数值。当然,这里有一个例子,这意味着它可以是不同的传感器,例如加速度计,也可以是其他东西,但实际上它确实有效。
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Le Kalinowski: So I started to um I I started to think how I can do it because as you probably know from yesterday and Google just show it the diffusion models and the picture generation is really really difficult and computational heavy that means you need to have the huge GPU to generate takes a lot of time. So um uh this is couple of constraints that means you have have two on your mind the the termal uh profile of of the of the program and actually I just get an idea maybe I can use the um NPU neural processing unit on the smartphone to deploy there directly in a diffusion model and then try to uh run out um diffusion um diffusion inference uh there but it's not like enough. Uh the main idea was also to get rid of the full um full uh pipeline of the change text through the embeddings and uh building the uh you know full prompts through it. So I just you know throw it out and get an idea to use direct numerical value uh from an ambient sensor. Of course um here is a here's an example that means it can be like different sensor it can be accelerometer it can be something different but um but actually it works.
Le Kalinowski: 所以我所做的,我只是设计了一个完整的管道,其中零云API调用到外部,不是本地LLM,我构建了一个完整的可测量系统来检查它,并证明扩散模型可以在本地移动设备上实现。这里有一个管道,这意味着最重要的是潜在更新(latent update),正如你可能在这里看到的,有一个随机扰动尺度(stoastic perturbation scale),随机性在这里得到了实现。还有一件事,我不知道你们是否都知道扩散到底是什么,因为扩散是通过向我们的数据集添加噪声来完成的,例如,我们有一个数据集,其中有很多狗的图片,我们只是在那里添加噪声层,然后像在Transformer中一样编码模型,这意味着我们只是最小化一个函数,然后我们有一个巨大的潜在空间表示噪声,为了从另一侧获得推理,我们只是解码那个噪声,这意味着解码那个随机性,为此我们也像在常规LLM中一样使用变换,这意味着我们正在解码信息,并且我们是迭代地进行,这意味着所有这些信息都需要大量的计算能力。所以逻辑非常简单。
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Le Kalinowski: So what I did, I just design um designed a full pipeline with the zero cloud um API calls to the you know outside um outside um not local LLMs um and I um build a full measurable system to to check it out and prove that the fusion models are possible on the local mobile devices. Um here's a here's a pipeline that means the most important thing is the latent update and as you probably can see here uh there's a stoastic pert perturbation scale and the randomness here is implemented uh one more thing I don't know if you just all know what the diffusion really is because uh the diffusion is made by uh adding noise to our data sets for example we have uh you know data set uh with a lot of the you know I don't know maybe dog pictures and we are just adding layers of noise there and then coding like in transformers um the model that means we are just minimizing a function and at then we have a huge noise of the latent uh space representation and to get an inference from other side we are just decoding that that noise that means decoding that randomness and for that we also use like in regular LLMs we also use the transformations that means we are decoding the the decoding the noising um uh the information there and we are doing it iteratively that means all of the informations requires really lot a lot of requires a lot of computer power um so um the the the logic is is quite simple
Le Kalinowski: 这意味着首先是环境传感器,然后是映射,之后是条件化,这意味着完整的管道,以获取这些数据映射到潜在空间,以及潜在更新函数运行时会话,以及完整的遥测系统来测量所有结果。这里有一个更详细的视图。实际上,整个项目,整个应用程序都是以块的形式设计的,第一个块是输入和编码层,这意味着从传感器获取原始数据并将其映射到潜在空间并不那么简单。所以第一个完整的映射是,我们获取嵌入式光传感器,然后在此基础上构建直方图,构建利润,并进行完整的归一化,然后构建潜在向量。所以,我还构建了一个完整的回退机制(fallback),这意味着为了确保,你知道,如果发生某种热事件,我不会耗尽内存,我就会切断整个应用程序,因为我不想丢失我的手机。这里是API和原生的Android桥接,这让我有机会直接在NPU上部署模型。我还使用了ONNX Runtime来完成这项工作。
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Le Kalinowski: That means the first ambient sensor then mapping after it conditioning that means the full pipeline to um to get those data u mapped to the latent space and the latent update function runtime session and and the full telemetry uh um to to measure all of the let's say results. Uh here's a a bit detailed view of it. Actually the full project was um full full uh application is designed in the um um in in the blocks that first block is an input and and the coding layer that means this is not that simple to um to get the raw data from from the sensor and map it to the latent space. So the the full first um full first mapping is the that we are getting the emmed light sensor then building hises on the top of that u build profit and the full normalization and then building the latent vector. So um I also build a full fallback that means to be sure that you know I'm just running out of memory there if some kind of thermal uh you know incidents rise and I just cut off the whole application because I don't know don't didn't want to lose my phone um and um the here is the API and the native um Android uh bridge which gives me up opportunity to deploy the model directly on the NPU And I also used an onnx runtime to do it.
Le Kalinowski: 接下来是完整的扩散线,其中有Android原生会话管理器,这里是模型,这是单元变分自动编码器(unit unit various auto encoder),这意味着我们正在编码提示的部分,然后我们有单元去噪循环(unit d noiseis loop),这是扩散过程的核心,有8、16和24个步骤,然后我们将其解码为张量和RGB图片。最后,我还收集了图片本身,所有工件(artifacts)和元数据。最后,我们有图库和完整的遥测。
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Le Kalinowski: The uh the next um next part is the full diffusion line where Android native session manager and here is the model and this is the unit unit various auto um encoder that means the part where we are just encoding the let's say prompt then we have the unit d noiseis loop that means the core of the diffusion process with the 8, 16 and 24 steps and then we are just decoding it to the tensor and RGB um picture. Um at the end I also collect you know the the pictures itself the all of the artifacts and the meta data. Um and uh at the end we have the gallery and full telemetry.
Le Kalinowski: 好的。我想这是我今天演讲中最有趣的部分。让我先在电脑上向大家展示模拟,然后再向大家展示我手机上运行的应用程序。好的,这就是它的样子。在这个阶段可能不那么令人印象深刻,但请给我一秒钟。好的,我可以改变光的模拟,并立即在设备上获得推理。所以,让我还向你们展示整个测量部分,这意味着我们有完整的元数据捕获、环境光、平滑光稳定、温度以及所有必要的参数。这意味着对我来说最重要的参数之一是稳定性和延迟。好的,现在让我向你们展示它在智能手机上的工作情况。
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Le Kalinowski: Uh okay. Um I think this is the uh um the funniest part uh of my today's presentation. Uh let me show you first the simulation on on on a on a computer just before I show you working application on my phone. Okay, this is how it looks like. It's not maybe um impressive at at that stage but uh give me a second. Okay. So I can change the the simulation of light and get an instant inference on the device here. So let me also show you the whole measurement whole measurement part that means we have full full um metadata captured ambient light smooth light stabilization temperature and everything which is um which is necessary. That means one of the most important parameter for me was um uh uh uh was u uh was the stabilization and the and the latency. Okay, let me uh let me show you right now how it works on the on the smartphone.
Le Kalinowski: 哦,这是我的私人手机。它不是Samsung赞助的。这是我的私人手机。实际上,你们可能看到了我的屏幕。我会关闭所有互联网连接,进入飞行模式。这样就能确保它不是假的。好的。就是这样。也许我只是把它写下来。所以我很高兴那里有很多灯光,因为它正在工作。我们这里有勒克斯(lux)的变化,这意味着我们正在捕获来自传感器的所有数据,你们现在看到的,是部署在NPU上的扩散模型的完整推理。它工作得非常非常快。我知道这不像像素级的表示,因为要做到真正优化,我需要切断所有构建真实文本到嵌入式提示的部分。重要的是,正如你们可能看到的,它非常快,而且非常稳定,这意味着你可以用它来构建其他不同的应用程序,并用它来,我不知道,尝试构建一些不同的图片,甚至可以尝试用它来制作动画,而且这不会最终杀死你的手机。
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Le Kalinowski: Oh, here here's my private private phone. It's not not not sponsored by Samsung. It's my private one. Um actually let let me probably you can see my screen. I will switch uh switch off all of the internet connections to the flight mode. We'll be sure then um it's not the fake. Uh okay. And here is it. Maybe I would just write it up. So um I'm really glad that there's a lot of lights there because it's working. Um here we have a change in in the in in lux that means we are just capturing all of the data from from sensor and and this what you are just seeing right now is the full inference of the diffusion model deployed on the NPUs. It works really really fast. I know this is not a like a pixel wise representation because to do it really optimal um I need to cut off whole of the you know whole of the uh whole of the part uh of building real text to real text to to embeddings prompts and um what is really important as you probably can see it's it is extremely fast and it is really stable that means with this you can build some kind of other different applications and use it to I don't know try to build some kind of um different pictures or you can just even try to build an animation with this and this is not something which which will kill your phone at the at the end.
Le Kalinowski: 好的,让我简要地向你们展示结果。所以这里我们有参数,我捕获了工件,有多少工件是真实的,这是一个单一的实验,稳健的延迟大约是600毫秒,这意味着非常非常快,完整的推理成本不高,它非常稳定,这意味着你可以将这种架构用于你未来的项目,但我不想以手机上奇怪的RGB颜色结束,我只是强制应用程序构建一些更好看的东西,我决定在会议前构建更多东西,请给我一秒钟,我只会找到一个应用程序。所以我决定生成一个心形,并尝试用一些几何技巧和约束来强制模型生成一个真正的心形。实际上,这奏效了。所以我很高兴我能够做到这一点,我很高兴我今天能向你们展示超用户体验的最新进展。总结一下,我认为你们应该考虑NPU,并尽可能地使用它来优化和加速你们的应用程序,因为所有现代手机都已经有了它。但我认为并不是每个人都在现代开发中使用它。例如,我们可以用它来制作动画。这是一个非常好的选择。所以我认为我只是向你们指出,你可以将它用作一种非常规的应用程序,它只是等待在你的项目中被发现。如果你想了解更多关于Kalstack和我们的工作,因为我们,在我们的孵化器和研发中心,我们已经开源了相当多的人工智能产品项目,例如React Native应用程序的评估基准,那么请获取代码并查看。非常感谢。
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Le Kalinowski: Um okay let let me show you um briefly results of it. Uh so here here we have parameters I captured artifacts how many artifacts true this is the single experiment um u robust latency it's around 600 milliseconds that means really really fast the full inference it's it's cost not not that much uh it's really stable that means you can use that type of architecture for your um future projects but um I didn't want to finish on the let's say um weird RGB colors on the phone uh and I just forced that applications to build something um something uh nicer um and I uh decided to build just before conference I decided to build something more and give me a second I will only uh only just uh will find an application for So I decided to generate a heart um and try to force uh with some geometrical tricks and and constraints and not try to force the model to generate a real heart with the with the model. And actually that works. So um I'm I'm really happy that uh I was able to do it. uh um and I'm really happy that um that I can show you um the recent progress on the on the hyper user experiences uh today to you. Uh to wrap it up, uh I think you probably should think about the NDPUs and try to use it whatever possible to optimize and speed up your applications because all of the modern mobile phones already have it. But I think not everyone just use it in the in the modern development. We can for example can build an animation with this. Um and it's a it's a really good option. So I think um I just point you out that you can use it as an unconventional um application and it just uh it just waits to be discovered in your projects. And if you just want to learn more about Kalstack and our work because we just um in our incubator and R&D center we already just open source quite a lot of let's say artificial intelligence products project projects like for example evaluation benchmark for re react native applications um then grab a grab a code and take a look there. Thank you very much.
主持人: 好的。谢谢你,Le。快速提示,对于即将上台的演讲者,请到G2I展位,他们会安排你到后台。我向Le和David承诺过,我会比较他们的夹克。嗯,他穿的是西装。那些喜欢David夹克的人,请发出一些声音。
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主持人: Great. Thank you, Le. Uh, quick note, uh, for our coming up speakers, please show up at the GTI booth at the expo hall so they prepare you to bring you to backstage. And, uh, I promised Le and David that I would, uh, compare their jackets. Well, he has a suit. Um, those of you who liked David's jacket, please make some noise.
主持人: 好的,那些喜欢他的。
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主持人: Okay, those who like his,
主持人: 我想我们有赢家了。好的。现在我们休息一下。请大家去喝咖啡,但请在10:55左右回来,因为下一个演讲将在那时开始。谢谢。
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主持人: I think we have a winner. Uh, all right. So, we have a break right now. Um, please, um, get your coffee, but be back here around 10:55 as we have the next talk starting then. Thank you.
主持人: 大家好,欢迎回来。我想花点时间感谢我们的赞助商,没有他们的支持,这一切就不可能实现。Code Rabbit、Mintify、Cerebras、Sentry、Cloudflare、Tailscale、Modem、Ampify、Ozero、Google DeepMind、City Furniture和Encrypt AI。让我们为我们的赞助商鼓掌,好吗?
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主持人: Hey everyone, welcome back. I would like to take a moment to thank our sponsors uh without whose support this would not have been possible. Code Rabbit, Mintify, Cerebras, Sentry, Cloudflare, Tailscale, Modem, Ampify, Ozero, Google DeepMind, City Furniture, and Encrypt AI. Let's hear it for our sponsors, shall we?
子智能体与专业化模型
主持人: 我们的下一位演讲者,我在后台问他,你做过的最疯狂的事情是什么?他说,我整天都在写代码,但我有一个脚踏板。这显然是一种提高生产力的技巧。当他踩下脚踏板时,它会启动语音命令,他就可以说话了。我想是打开了扬声器。
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主持人: Our next speaker, I asked him in the back, uh, what's the craziest thing you do? He said, I code all day, but I have a foot pedal. It's like a productivity hack apparently. A foot pedal when he presses it, it's it it starts the voice commands and he can he can talk. Turns on the speaker I suppose.
Tis: 哦,不。Whisper flow,如果你知道那是什么的话。
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Tis: Oh, no. Whisper flow if you know what that is.
主持人: 好的,我不知道那是什么。
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主持人: There you go. I don't know what that is.
Tis: 这就像一个语音检测。
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Tis: It's like a voice detect.
主持人: 那么你必须在你的演讲中解释一下。所以他就是这样做的。另外,他每天尝试摄入210克蛋白质,我说对了吗?
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主持人: You have to explain that uh during your talk then. Um so he does that. Also, he tries to take, did I say it? 210 grams of protein a day.
Tis: 你在泄露我的秘密。
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Tis: You're giving giving a home out.
主持人: 好的。我很荣幸欢迎Tis上台,他将谈论很多推理优化。他曾在Tesla Autopilot工作,现在他有自己的初创公司,他的重点是推理优化以及如何使代码生成更加优化。好的,谢谢。
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主持人: All right. Uh it's my pleasure to welcome Tis on the stage and uh he he's going to talk about a lot of inference optimization. He's worked in Tesla autopilot before and now he has his own startup and uh his focus is inference optimization and how to make uh code gen more optimized. There you go. Thank you.
Tis: 好的。等一下。
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Tis: All right. One sec.
Tis: 嘿,老爸。伙计,我发誓我之前练习过这个。抱歉。等一下。
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Tis: Hey, Dad. Dude, I swear I I practiced this before. Sorry. One sec.
主持人: 是的,我没有看到HDMI的任何东西。嘿,嘿,嘿。我们在做什么?我想是的。
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主持人: Yeah, I'm not seeing anything from HDMI. Hey, hey, hey. What are we doing? I think so.
主持人: 好的,在Tis设置的时候,这里还有一个提醒,伴随着背景音乐,今天有一个派对。所以,如果你昨晚没有机会或者被阻止喝醉,今晚是你的机会。晚上7点在Thrilled Show。我想Tis已经准备好了。
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主持人: Okay, as Tis is setting up, uh here's a reminder also with the background music that there is a afterparty today. So, uh, if you didn't get a chance or you're held back from getting wasted last night, tonight is your chance. It's at 7:00 p.m. at Thrilled Show. And with that, I think Tis is ready.
Tis: 酷。
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Tis: Cool.
主持人: 开始吧。
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主持人: Take it away.
Tis: 大家好。我是Tis,Morph的创始人。今天我将向大家介绍子智能体(sub agents)和专业化模型(specialized models)。
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Tis: Yeah. Hey everyone. Uh, I'm Tis. I'm the founder of Morph. Uh, and today I'm going to talk to you about sub agents and specialized models.
Tis: 你们可能还记得这个。去年发生的事情,Trump去了白宫。他正在演示Elon的Model S,他说:“哇,太美了。一切都是电脑。”我觉得这很棒,因为它实际上是准确的。就像一切实际上都是电脑,对吧?就像Model S里面的窗户都是一台迷你电脑。
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Tis: So, you might remember this. Uh, this happened like last year where Trump went to the White House. Uh he was demoing a Model S from Elon and he said, "Wow, that's beautiful. Everything is computer." Uh I thought that was great because it's actually accurate. Like everything is actually computer, right? Like even the Windows inside a Model S is like a mini computer.
Tis: 嗯,我现在要讲的是Andre Karpathy的软件1.0、2.0、3.0范式。如果你还记得软件1.0,那是人类编写代码来编程计算机。软件2.0是权重编程神经网络,这有点像一个灵活的固定功能计算机,你可以用它来做像检测停车灯这样的事情。软件3.0是人类通过提示来编程LLM。但是,一个新的原语出现了。所以现在我们有了子任务和作曲家作为背景搜索工具,然后是Swed的认知。所以我认为软件3.0之后的下一步,我称之为软件3.5,有点像智能体提示其他智能体。你仍然有顶层的人类提示主智能体,但你有点像有些人称之为智能体群(agent swarms)。我认为这个词太有Cody的风格了。所以,是的,本质上,子智能体非常简单。最简单的定义就是为一项任务使用一个单独的上下文窗口。这已被证明对编码智能体的性能很有用。
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Tis: Um and so what I'm getting into now is um this is uh Andre Karpathy's sort of software 1.0, 2.0, 3.0 paradigm. Uh so if you remember software 1.0, this was humans writing code that programs computers. Software 2.0 0 was um weights programming neural nets which is sort of like a a flexible fixed function computer that you can do things like detecting stop lights. Uh software 3.0 was humans prompting program uh using prompts to program LLMs. Uh but a new primitive has appeared. Uh so now we have sub task and composer as a as a background um search tool and then cognition with Swed. Uh so what I think is the next sort of step past software 3.0 is what I call software 3.5 which is sort of agents prompting other agents. Um you still have the human at the top prompting that main agent but you sort of have some people call this agent swarms. I think that's a two vibe cody of a term. Um so yeah and so essentially what a sub agent is is super simple. The simplest definition is just using a separate context window for a task. Uh this has been proven to be useful coding agent performance.
Tis: 嗯,所以,这有点像这个全新的第三个原语。我认为前两个是系统提示和工具。问题变成了子智能体应该是专业化模型还是通用模型?我认为正确的答案是这取决于情况。但这次演讲有趣的部分在于,当它们实际上是专业化模型时。所以首先,使用前沿模型(frontier model)的成本。前沿模型非常好,尤其是在编码和推理方面,但它们需要大量的计算资源,而且非常非常昂贵。所以它们不适合所有任务。
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Tis: Um so yeah so it's sort of this third brand new primitive. I think the first two were system prompts and tools. Uh the question becomes should sub agents be specialized models or should they be general models? And I think the right answer is that it depends. Uh but the interesting part of this talk is when it's actually specialized models. So first the the cost of what of using a frontier model. So frontier models are really good uh especially at coding and reasoning but they take a lot of compute and they're super super expensive. So they're not really great for every task.
Tis: 那么,为什么你甚至要考虑专业化模型呢?从宏观角度来看,我们现在面临着巨大的计算资源稀缺危机,比如在GCP或AWS上,根本没有H200或B200的容量。事实上,我现在甚至有智能体在后台试图寻找一些容量。但基本上,这是一种宏观压力,迫使我们转向专业化模型,因为这样你就可以用更少的计算资源以相同的准确度完成一项任务。这只是一个说明相同事情的图表。基本上,你想要做的是以最小的计算量很好地完成一项任务,这正是由这种计算约束引起的。
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Tis: Uh so why why should you even bother considering a specialized model? So from a macro perspective, we have this huge compute scarcity crisis right now where um like there's no H200 or B200 capacity across the board if you look at GCP or AWS. In fact, right now I even have agents in the background trying to find some capacity. Um but basically this is a macro pressure to like pressure people. This sort of macro pressure pushes us to specialized models because then you can use less compute to do a task to like the same accuracy. Um this is just a graph saying the same thing. Basically what you want to do is the minimum compute to do a task well and this sort of just arises from this this compute constraint.
Tis: 所以我们在Morph的答案是,我们基本上做专业化模型和专业化推理。我们认为像代码搜索和上下文压缩这样的事情应该转向专业化模型。而像编码、规划和推理这样仍然需要前沿计算(frontier compute)的事情应该保持前沿。
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Tis: And so our answer at Morph is uh we basically do specialized model and specialized inference. And so we think stuff like code search and context compression should move to specialized models. Uh whereas stuff that still needs frontier compute like coding, planning and reasoning should stay frontier.
Tis: 我们可以通过专业化模型做一些你不会对通用模型做的事情。例如,现在的前沿模型实验室通常不会在并行工具调用(parallel tool calling)框架上进行训练,因为你会遇到慢性遗忘问题(chronic forgetting problem),一旦你在并行工具调用框架上进行强化学习(RL),你就会在顺序工具调用(sequential tool call)性能上看到退步。所以这是一个我们可以做出的权衡,而实验室可能不想做。这就是我们为代码搜索模型所做的事情。我们的代码模型可以进行多达12个并行GPS读取或列出目录,多达六轮。它可以在我们为这种工作负载设计的推理引擎上非常快速地完成这些操作,这种工作负载是超预填充密集型(super pre-fill heavy),例如高达80k的token输入和大约200个token的输出。
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Tis: Uh so one of the things we can do when we specialize a model is that we can do things that you wouldn't want you wouldn't do to a general model. For example, a frontier model lab right now they typically won't train on a parallel tool calling harness because you get this chronic forgetting problem where when once you do RL on this parallel tool calling harness, you start seeing regressions on uh sequential tool call performance. And so that's an example of a trade-off we could make that uh a lab might not want to make. And so that's what we do for our code search model. Our code model can do up to 12 parallel GPS, reads or list directories uh up to six turns. And it can do this very fast on a inference engine that we make that's designed for this workload which is super pre-fill heavy like up to 80k of token input and like around 200 tokens output.
Tis: 我们的另一个模型是压缩模型(compactions model)。它基本上是一个经过训练的模型,可以以每秒33,000个token的速度压缩上下文。Fast apply是我们的diff apply模型。是的,我们构建这些模型是因为我认为编码智能体大部分时间都在做不需要前沿计算的事情。这就像代码搜索、压缩和应用代码编辑。这些事情发生数千次,但实际上并不需要前沿计算。
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Tis: Uh so another model we have is our our compactions model. It's basically a model that's trained to compact context at 33,000 tokens per second. Fast apply is our diff apply model. And yeah, so we build these models because I think coding agents spend most of their time um doing things that don't actually need frontier compute. And this is like code search, compaction, and applying code edits. And these happen thousands of times, but just aren't actually stuff that needs frontier compute.
Tis: 是的。那么我们如何使它们变得优秀呢?对我们来说,优秀不仅仅意味着构建一个能获得良好F1分数的东西。你必须将它们训练成一个好的子智能体,而不仅仅是一个好的模型。所以对我们来说,这意味着当我们进行强化学习时,我们训练的目标是最小化引入专业化模型时产生的这种随机性。所以,假设你有一个顶层的Opus调用我们的代码搜索模型。当你使用这种带有独立模型的设置时,其中一个问题是Opus可能会假设你的模型比实际能力更强,或者它的工作方式与实际不同。所以在强化学习期间,我们必须训练以最小化这种随机性。所以,这就像你在制作一个专业化子智能体时必须涵盖的一个维度。
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Tis: Yeah. So how do we make them good? So good for us doesn't just mean like building something that gets like a good like F1 score for example. uh you have to train these to be a good sub agent, not just a good model. uh so what that means is uh for us is that when we do RL we train to sort of minimize this uh this randomness that you get when you introduce a specialized model. So like let's say you have opus at the top calling one of our like our code search model. One of the problems when you when you have this sort of setup with a separate model is that opus might have an assumption that your model is more capable than it might be or uh that it works in a different way than it actually does. So during RL we have to train to like minimize this randomness. Um so that that's like one dimension in which which you have to cover when you like make a specialized sub agent.
Tis: 那么我们如何使它们快速呢?嗯,人们使模型快速的最常用方法之一称为推测解码(speculative decoding)。推测解码首先是一种东西,因为你有一台像GPU这样大规模并行的机器。你有一个像LLM这样超顺序的架构。所以,在顶部,你看到传统的LLM推理,你必须一次生成一个token,重新生成KV和你所有的东西,然后生成下一个token。通过推测解码,你有点像切换了这种方式,所以你有一些启发式方法来猜测,比如说六个token,然后你让你的大规模并行机器GPU验证这六个token是否正确,并且生成一个token或验证这六个token的时间是线性的。这两者花费相同的时间。所以传统上,通过推测解码,你可以有一个更小的模型,一个非常非常小的模型,比如0.7B来做这些预测,然后让像三万亿这样的大模型来验证它们。但你实际上不必拥有一个小型模型。你可以基于启发式方法来做。你可以随心所欲地做。你只需要某种方法来获得这些猜测。
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Tis: And so how do we make these fast? Um so one of the the most common ways people make models fast is called specive decoding. Speculative decoding is sort of it's sort of a thing first of all because you have this like massively parallel machine that's a GPU. Uh and you have this like super sequential architecture that is the LLM. Uh so at the top there you see traditional LM inference where you just have to generate one token at a time regenerate KV and all your all your stuff and then to generate the next token. Uh with spective decoding you sort of switch this uh so you have something some heristic to like make like a guess of like let's say six tokens and then you have your massively parallel machine the GPU just verify that those six tokens are correct and that time is linear to generate one token or verify those six tokens. those both take the same time. And so traditionally with spective decoding, you can have a you can have a smaller model like a very very tiny model like a 0.7B do these these like these predictions and then just have the big model that's like three trillion verify them. Uh but you don't actually have to have a small model. You can do it heristic base. You can do it whichever way you want. You just need some sort of way to get those guesses.
Tis: 另一种常见的方法是解耦预填充(disagregated prefill)。所以预填充基本上是首个token时间(time to first token)内发生的一切。解码是之后发生的一切。所以我们现在开始看到的一个常见现象是,将这些工作负载解耦到不同的芯片中。这之所以可行,是因为Nvidia的NVLink非常出色。Nvidia现在正与Grock合作进行这项工作,Grock将进行预填充,而传统的Nvidia GPU将进行解码。如果你同时使用Nvidia,它也同样有效。
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Tis: The another common method is disagregated prefill. So that's basically prefill is everything that happens in the time to first token. decode is everything that happens after that. Uh so a common thing we're starting to see happen now is u disagregating that those workloads into separate chips. Uh this is sort of a thing because Nvidia's NVLink is so good. Uh Nvidia is starting to do this now with Grock where Grock is going to be doing pre-fill uh and traditional Nvidia GPUs will be doing decode. It also works if you just use Nvidia for both. Um but yeah
Tis: 另一种方法是编写内核(kernels)。内核出了名的难写。这是一个变化非常快的领域。今天可能是QDSL,明天是Emojo,后天是Qile,再后天又回到QDSL。所以,这是三者中最难的一个。但这些是我们进行推理优化的三个主要维度。对于真正懂技术的人来说,我认为未来将是进一步解耦,将注意力操作(attention operations)分离到不同的机器中。所以你甚至可能有三到四个独立的芯片,每个芯片都专门用于预填充、解码、注意力。是的,很多第一性原理思考者会认为这真的很愚蠢,比如Jim Keller这样的人可能讨厌这个,因为直观上你不需要四块独立的芯片来做这个。你应该在一块板上完成所有这些,但理论与现实有所不同。
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Tis: Uh another way is if you uh write kernels. uh kernels are notoriously hard. It's a very fast changing field. One day it's QDSL, the next day it's emojo, the next day it's uh Qile and next day it's back to QDSL. And so uh this one is the hardest one out of all the three. But these are the the three main dimensions in which we we do our inference optimization. Uh for the really technical people out here, I think where the future is going is actually like disagregating further where you take attention operations out into machines. So you're going to might even have three or four separate chips each specialized for like prefill, decode, attention. Um, yeah, a lot of first principal thinkers would think this is really stupid though, like Jim Keller and these people probably hate this because intuitively you don't you don't need you shouldn't need like four separate chips to do this. You should be doing this all on one board, but reality plays out different in theory.
Tis: 所以,回到主题,专业化模型是实现产品模式的好方法,因为每个人都在构建相同的东西,对吧?你有Cursor,它有多智能体,有后台搜索智能体和作曲家。你有Devon,它有并行会话和它的Sweet模型。在整个行业中,你有Cloud Codeex Winds Surf,我想还有Grock。但是,一种差异化的方式是更快、更便宜。更快、更便宜可以让你做很多事情,比如你可以处理更多的token。你可以,比如,如果你可以运行10倍的token,就会出现很多功能,我认为很多人没有意识到。我们与大约40多家公司合作,它们都是生产智能体。所以,我将分享一些我从与这些公司合作中获得的经验教训。
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Tis: So yeah, getting back to the topic, uh, specialized models are a great way to actually have a product mode because everyone is sort of building the same thing, right? You have cursor with u multi-agent with background search agents and composer. You have devon parallel sessions uh and their sweet model. Uh and across the board you have cloud codeex winds surf and I guess grock. But uh a way to differentiate is being faster and cheaper. Uh and being faster and cheaper can let you do lots of things like you can go through more tokens. you can uh like like if you can run 10x more tokens, there's a lot of features that arise from that that I think a lot of people don't get. Uh and so we work with around like 40 plus uh companies and they're they're production agents. So I'm going to just go through some of the lessons I've had from working with these companies.
智能体应用与最佳实践
Tis: 最主要的一点,这在一个月前还是一个热门观点,而今天已经是一个非常温和的观点了,那就是一切都变成了编码智能体。所以,这就像营销智能体,客户支持智能体,智能体编写SQL。营销智能体会做一些事情,比如调用Apollo API并发送电子邮件。基本上,我们看到,我们最初的客户只是编码智能体,比如Vercel Vzeros和Lovables。然后你开始看到这种转变,转向不同的公司,比如Zo Computer,它有点像一个个人助理,可以为你编写代码和做事情。是的,基本上一切都变成了编码智能体。现在这很明显了。从一切都变成编码智能体开始,你就会发现很多工具你不再需要了。你可以开始删除一些东西,因为你可以直接用代码来做。
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Tis: So the main one uh this used to be hotter of a take uh like a month ago and today it's like a super lukewarm take, but uh everything becomes a coding agent. And so that's like marketing agents, uh, like a customer support agent, the agent writes SQL. Marketing agents, they do things like call Apollo APIs and, uh, send emails. And basically across the board, we're seeing like like our initial customers were just coding agents like the Versel Vzeros of the world, the lovables. Um, and then you start seeing like this shift into different companies like Zo Computer, sort of like a personal assistant uh, that writes code and does stuff for you. And um yeah, basically everything is becoming coding agent. It's pretty obvious now. Uh and from everything becoming coding agent, you start to see a lot of tools you no longer need. You can start deleting stuff uh because you can just with code.
Tis: 代码本质上是构建所有功能的功能。所以你唯一的瓶颈就是你的基础模型在编写代码方面的能力。另一个有趣的发现是,这在几乎所有客户中都是一致的,那就是当你速度翻倍时,转化率也大致翻倍。前提是你没有损害准确性。所以,如果你选择那些没有遇到回溯或新错误的人群,你将使该人群的转化率翻倍。所以,如果你能在不损害准确性的情况下速度翻倍,那是非常非常有价值的。再次强调,上下文链接很重要。这就是为什么你应该使用子智能体。
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Tis: Uh code is essentially the feature that builds all features. Uh and so you're only bottlenecked by how how good the your your base model is at writing code. Uh, another interesting fact is that this is sort of consistent across almost all of our customers is that when you double speed, you roughly double conversion rates. Uh, given that you don't actually hurt accuracy. So, if you take the cohort of people that didn't hit like a a tra like a trace back or get a new error, you will double conversion rates within that cohort. So, if you can double speed without hurting accuracy, it's very, very valuable. And again, context link matters. That's why you should use sub agents.
Tis: 是的。好的。所以,我将介绍一些构建优秀子智能体的良好实践。现在,如果你正在构建一个搜索子智能体,你真的只需要非常简单地输入自然语言,比如如果你在进行代码搜索,它就会像“认证逻辑在哪里”一样,子智能体最终会输出文件路径和行范围。这样,你就可以使该子智能体生成的输出token非常小。所以这可以非常快。这会带来全面的改进,无论你使用哪种子智能体。对于我们的搜索子智能体,我们大致看到了Sweet Bench Pro全面提高了3%,但如果你使用Cloud Code搜索子智能体或任何其他子智能体,改进是相似的。
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Tis: Uh, yeah. Yeah. So I'll go into some good practices about building good sub agents. Now uh so if you're building a search sub agent, you should really just it's very simple. You just put natural language in like if you're doing code search, it would just be like where is authentication logic sub aent at the end would output file paths and line ranges. That way you keep the output tokens that that sub aent is generating very small. So this can be very fast. Uh and this leads to improvements across the board no matter which sub aent you use. For our search sub agent, we sort of see like a roughly 3% sweet bench pro improvement across the board, but it's it's a similar improvement if you use cloud code search sub agent or um any of them.
Tis: 对于任务智能体,我认为你仍然应该使用前沿模型,而不是专业化模型。你应该共享前缀缓存。所以,基本上,当你的主模型,比如Opus,想要吐出三到三个任务智能体时,它们都应该共享相同的前缀,这样你就可以获得缓存,它仍然会很快。如果有人看过Cloud Code的泄露,他们实际上有一个叫做team create的东西,其中有双向通信。我认为这也很酷。所以基本上发生的是,你的主智能体,比如Opus,可以进行team create。它会创建一个带有slug的文件夹。它会为每个智能体提供一个JSON,每次它写入这些JSON时,它都可以通过写入每个智能体的JSON文件来发送消息。每个任务智能体都会持续拉取该JSON以获取更新。基本上,你拥有这种双向通信,而且没有真正的协议。这有点像一种黑客方式。我忘了是谁试图创建一个叫做ACP的协议,它有点像标准化一些RPC格式来做这个。
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Tis: Uh so for task agents, which I think you should still be using a frontier model, not a specialized model, uh you should be sharing the prefix cache. So, uh, basically when your main your main model like Opus for example wants to, um, like spit out like three three three task agents, uh, those should all share the same prefix so you get the caching, it'll still be fast. Um, if anyone's looked into the cloud code leak, they they actually have this thing called team create where there's birectional communication. I think that's actually really cool as well. Um, so basically what happens is your main agent like Opus can do a team create. It'll make a folder with a slug. Uh it'll have a JSON for each agent and every time it writes to those it can send messages by writing to a JSON file for each agent. Um and each one of those task agents will be continuously pulling that JSON for updates. And uh basically you have this sort of birectional communication and there's no real protocol. This is sort of like a hacky way to do it. There's some other I forget who's trying to make like some protocol called ACP which is like a to standardize some RPC format to do this.
Tis: 我不关心它是如何实现的。我认为更有趣的是这种主智能体和子智能体之间的实际双向通信。好的。是的。希望你从这次演讲中了解到,一切都是模型。如果你喜欢推理优化和强化学习,请给我们发邮件。
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Tis: Uh I I I don't really care how it's implemented. I think the the the thing that's more interesting is this actual birectional communication between main agent and sub agent. Cool. Yeah. And so hopefully you got out of this talk that everything is models. Uh if you like working on inference optimization NRL, please email us.
编码智能体正在吞噬世界
主持人: 好的,那是Tis的一次精彩演讲。接下来,我将介绍Fidian Aentuity。抱歉,那不是他的名字。好的,下一位演讲者是Rick Bllelock,他是一位佛罗里达人,是Agentuity的创始人,他将告诉我们更多关于编码智能体以及它们如何吞噬世界。所以欢迎Fidian,也就是Rick上台。
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主持人: All right, that was a great talk by Tis. And next up, I'm going to introduce Fidian Aentuity. I'm sorry, that's not his name. Well, so the next speaker is Rick Bllelock and he is a Floridaian who is the founder of Agentuity and he's gonna tell us a little bit more about coding agents and how they're eating the world. So welcome onto the stage Fidian aka Rick.
Rick Blelock: 好的,我们开始吧。扩展。我看不到屏幕。你们看到哪个屏幕了?因为我不知道我看到了什么。
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Rick Blelock: All right, let's do this here. Extended. I can't see the screen. Which one do you guys see? Cuz I don't know what I'm seeing.
主持人: 你不想看到我的鼻子。
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主持人: You don't want to see my nose.
Rick Blelock: 现在呢?
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Rick Blelock: How about now?
主持人: 完美。好的。
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主持人: Perfect. All right.
Rick Blelock: 这就是我想听到的。把它放大。好的。欢迎来到迈阿密,各位。到目前为止,这是一次有趣的会议。我们的AI工程师会议是我有史以来最喜欢的会议之一,很高兴能来到这里。我也很高兴你们都在这里。所以,我的名字是Rick Blelock,来自Agentuity。今天我们将回顾过去几年AI智能体的演变。在2026年4月,编码智能体似乎不仅在编写世界上所有的新软件,而且它们也正在慢慢开始成为这些软件本身。所以,到最后,我希望你们能清楚地了解我们现在所处的位置,以及为什么编码智能体是软件的一个新的基础。
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Rick Blelock: That's what I want to hear. Blow that up. All right. Welcome to Miami, everybody. And uh it's been a fun uh fun conference so far. our AI engineers, one of my favorite conferences of all time and uh super happy to be here. I'm glad you all are here, too. So, my name is Rick Blelock from Agent Tui and today we're going to walk through the last couple years in the evolution of AI agents. how right now in April 2026, it seems like coding agents are not just writing all the world's new software, but they're actually slowly starting to become that software as well. So, by the end of this, I hope that you have a clear understanding of where we're at and why a coding agent is a new fundamental to software.
Rick Blelock: 就像你可以判断一个软件工程师处于他们职业生涯的哪个阶段一样,你也可以判断一个人在智能体旅程中的哪个阶段,甚至是他们智能体精神病的程度。我深受其害,我相信你们很多人也是。但无论如何,你可以通过他们如何描述智能体来判断他们所处的阶段。你会听到这样的话:“嗯,它只是一个工作流程,对吧?它只是一个花哨的RPA。它只是几个LLM调用。啊,智能体只是一个软件循环,不是吗?它不就是那样吗?它不就是我们早在2015年就在构建的更新的聊天机器人吗?它不就是更好的聊天机器人吗?或者编码智能体,你知道,它们还没有真正准备好用于软件开发,因为它会犯错。”所以你总是会听到这样的话,对吧?所以你大概可以判断人们在这个旅程中的哪个阶段,而且在过去两年里事情发展得非常迅速,对吧?所以我们将讨论这些。
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Rick Blelock: So m much like you can tell where a software engineer at is at in their journey, you can tell where someone is at on their agent journey or even their level of psychosis, their agent psychosis. Um I'm afflicted by that. I'm sure many of you are as well. But anyway, you can tell where they're at by how they describe an agent. You'll hear things like, "Well, it's just a workflow, right? It's just a fancy RPA. It's just a few LLM calls. Ah, agents just a software loop, isn't it? Isn't that what it is? Isn't it just a newer chatbot that we were building those back in 2015? Isn't it just like a better chatbot? Or coding agents, you know, they're not really ready yet for software dev because it makes mistakes. So, you hear things like that all the time, right? So, you kind of can tell where people are at in this journey and it things have happened rapidly in the last two years, right? And so we're going to talk through that.
Rick Blelock: 所以让我们回到两三年前。我们说我们想要智能体的自主性。然后我们构建了真正痴迷于控制的系统。我们称它们为智能体,但它们中的大多数实际上只是更漂亮的工作流程或chatbot++之类的东西。而且,你知道,我们倾向于将过去的经验生搬硬套到所有事情上。这是人类的特点,我们都这样做。所以我们习惯于用某种方式解决计算机问题。几十年来都用某种方式解决计算机问题。顺便说一句,这包括非工程师。非工程师,只是非技术人员如何思考使用计算机。所以当我们谈到软件工程和使用计算机解决问题时,我们很难从第一性原理出发。但几年前,有一些人开始探索这个问题,试图弄清楚,你知道,自主性在软件和非确定性中意味着什么。
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Rick Blelock: So let's jump back two, three years ago. We said we wanted agency out of agents. And then we built systems really obsessed with control. We were calling them agents, but most of them are really out they were just kind of prettier workflows or chatbot++ kind of thing. And you know, we tend to shoehorn our past experiences into everything. That's a human thing. We all do that. And so we're we're so used to solving problems a certain way with computers. Decades of solving problems with computers a certain way. By the way, that includes non-engineers, by the way. Um how non-engineers, just nontechnical people think about using computers. So it's really hard for us to start from first principles when it comes to software engineering and using computers to solve problems. But there, you know, a few years ago, there was a few people starting to poke around at that and try to figure out, you know, what what does agency mean and software and non-determinism.
Rick Blelock: 所以,如果你还记得,有多少人记得AutoGPT发布了?我不知道,也许是50个AI年前,大概是那样。
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Rick Blelock: So, if you remember, how many you remember autog4 launched? So, I don't know, maybe 50 AI years ago, something like that.
Rick Blelock: 所以,它成为了GitHub上最热门的仓库。它确实如此。它拥有16万或17万个GitHub星标。它是GitHub有史以来增长最快的仓库。我不知道你是否还记得其中的一些。有一些衍生项目。有一个叫做Chaos GPT的衍生项目。大家都记得吗?它的任务是毁灭人类。我不知道你是否还记得。但它之所以受欢迎,是因为它提供了一个实用的视角,让我们看到了这种智能体未来可能是什么样子。它也受欢迎,因为它从用户角度来看是一次壮观的失败。它陷入了循环。它不必要地烧毁了token。正如你所想象的,当时的模型存在很多糟糕的幻觉。如果你真的记得,在Hacker News上,有一个开发者只是用静态代码替换了循环,反馈循环,然后它获得了更好的结果。我不知道你们是否有人记得那个。
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Rick Blelock: And so, um, it uh it became the number one trending GitHub repo. It did. It it be I don't know it had like 160 or 170,000 GitHub stars. It was the fastest growing repo GitHub repo of all time. And um I don't know if you remember some of them. There was spin-offs. There was Chaos GPT which was a spin-off. Everybody remember that? It was tasked with destroying humanity. I don't know if you remember that. But it was popular because it offered a practical glimpse into what like this kind of agentic future could be like. It was also popular because it was a spectacular failure from a user perspective. Um, it was stuck in loops. It burned tokens needlessly. Lots of bad hallucination as you can imagine with the models at the time. And uh, if if you really remember in hacker news, there was a dev that just replaced the loop, the feedback loop with static code and it got better results. I don't know if any of you remember that.
Rick Blelock: 所以,Tom's Hardware的Aram说,它太自主了,以至于毫无用处。所以,你知道,有这些印记,这些瞥见,以及时间中的快照,我们看到这些,然后我们说:“哦,有些人的大脑被硬连接到那个时间点。”然后说:“看,智能体不好。它们还没有准备好。”但也有人,有一线希望,对吧?有人在尝试。没有成功。没关系。但我们正在朝着某个方向前进。
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Rick Blelock: So, um, Aram from Tom's Hardware, he said, uh, it was too autonomous to be useful. Um, so, you know, like there's there's these like stamps, these glimpses and uh, snapshots in time where we see that and we go, "Oh, some people's brains get hardwired to that moment in time." Go, see, agents aren't good. They're not ready to be. But there was there was people there was a glimpse of hope, right? Somebody was trying stuff. Didn't work out. It's fine. But we were getting somewhere with it.
Rick Blelock: 然后大约在那个时候,框架开始出现,它们模拟了自主性。其中很多实际上仍然是脆弱的确定性管道。2023年的智能体架构实际上只是一堆线性链。步骤一,步骤二,步骤三,很多确定性。我们都在努力弄清楚我们长大后想用这个做什么,对吧?你知道,有Crew AI、Langchain、Autogen、NAN。我的意思是,有很多这样的框架。其中一些尝试了某种类型的自主性,但有点像Autogen,由于模型的限制,存在问题。所以我们都陷入了客户现在想要什么,而不是模型在六个月后会变成什么样子的陷阱。他们想要的只是一个更好的聊天机器人。他们想要确定性。所以我们使用了用于非确定性的智能体,但我们在其中使用了所有这些确定性。嗯,所以这就是框架试图解决其中一些问题的时候。
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Rick Blelock: Then around that time, frameworks, you know, they started popping up that simulated agency. A lot of them were actually still brittle deterministic pipelines. The uh 2023 agent architecture were really just a lot of linear chains. Step one, step two, step three, a lot of determinism. And we were all trying to figure out what we wanted to do when we grew up with this, right? You know, there's Crew AI, Langchain, Autogen came out, NAN. I mean, there's a list of them. Some of some of them attempted some type of agency, but kind of like autogen because of the limits of the models, there were problems. So, we all fell into this trap of what customers wanted right now and not kind of like where the models were going to be in six months. And what they wanted, they just wanted a better chatbot. They wanted determinism. So we were using agents that were for non-determinism, but we were using them with all this determinism in there. Um, so that's what that's kind of when the frameworks tried to solve some of those problems.
Rick Blelock: 有趣的是,当时企业的期望是这些项目,这些原型大约需要六个月。我的意思是,如果你在这个AI工程师领域待过,六个月就像永恒一样。我的意思是,那大概是四个AI年。我不知道。所以六个月来实施这个框架,然后突然间模型变得更好了,当然框架也变得更好了,但我们所有人都在问,等等,我们甚至还需要这些框架吗?我的意思是,它们都挺复杂的。我们现在甚至还需要它们吗?然后甚至Anthropic自己的建议,这是在2024年12月,这看起来也不久远。我将引用一句话:“我们建议找到尽可能简单的解决方案。这可能意味着根本不构建智能体系统。”嗯,这很有趣,对吧?所以,就在几年前,它并不复杂,所有这些编排剧场(orchestration theater)和所有这些事情都在发生。
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Rick Blelock: And you know, the curious thing is the enterprise at the time the expectation was these projects, these prototypes were around six months, which I mean, if you've been in this AI engineer stuff for any, but six months is like an eternity. I mean that is probably about four AI years. I don't know. Um, so six months to like implement this thing with this framework and then all of a sudden the models get better and the of course the frameworks get better but then all of us start asking well wait a minute what do we even need these frameworks? I mean they're all kind of complicated anyway. Do we even need them now? And then even anthropics own advice this is back in December of 2024 which again doesn't seem that long ago. I'm going to read a quote. We recommend finding the simplest solution possible. This means this might mean not building a gentic systems at all. Well, that's interesting, right? So, just a couple years ago, h it's not really it's complicated all this like orchestration theater and all this stuff going on.
Rick Blelock: 让我快速回到这里。所以你考虑一下那个编排剧场。我不知道,如果这里有几个人经历过,以及所有这些复杂性,然后所有这些都在过去六到九个月内被移除了,对吧?从聊天机器人、工具调用者、工作流程编排器到多智能体剧场。或者你知道,Cursor添加了子智能体,然后Claude不太擅长使用子智能体,所以他们移除了它,然后突然间Claude又擅长使用子智能体了,Cursor又把它加回来了。有一天建议不要使用子智能体,子智能体不好,现在子智能体又好了。它们确实很好,所有这些都在变化,所有这些动荡。而且你知道,我们宣扬智能体需要自主性,然后客户说,这只是RPA,这不具备智能体特性。
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Rick Blelock: And um let me go back here real quick. So like you think about that orchestration theater. I don't know if if if if there's probably I'm sure several of you on here that have gone through that and the complexities of all of that that's happened and then all of that gets removed in the last six to nine months, right? Go from chatbot tool caller workflow orchestrator multi- aent theater. or you know remember cursor added sub aents and then Claude wasn't very good at using sub aents so they removed it and then all of a sudden Claude's good at using sub aents again and cursor adds it back um and the advice one day was don't use sub aents sub agents are bad and now the sub aents are good um and they are good that all that's changing all this turmoil and you know we're preaching agents need agency and then customers are like well this just is just RPA this This is just this isn't agentic.
Rick Blelock: 然后在那段时间里,Cognition Labs演示了Devon。有多少人记得Devon演示时的情景?它被宣传为第一个AI软件工程师,还记得吗?这很有趣。当然,你知道,早期存在炒作周期,可能有点超出了当时产品的实际能力。就我个人而言,我认为它在争议和愿景设定之间取得了很好的平衡,再加上一个不错的产品发布。我是这么认为的。但快进到今天,它确实是目前最强大的智能体工程产品之一。它摆脱了工作流程和框架的繁琐信息。我有点觉得它带来了一股清新的空气。我去年在Salesforce Park遇到了Walden,他是联合创始人之一,我当时告诉他,我真的很想把Devon更多地融入我们的流程中,我知道我想更多地整合它,我当时在想,传统上像框架之类的东西,我该如何将它整合起来?我该如何把它放进去?在和Walden交谈之后,我明白了,只要给Devon一些脚本和访问你工具的权限,它就会去做。所以它摆脱了MCP剧场和工作流程剧场。那是我第一次开始思考,哦,我应该把这个编码智能体不仅仅用于代码,还可以用于管理我们的演示。我们每周五都会进行演示,这些都是在我们的YouTube上公开的演示。Devon帮助了我们。Devon会直接告诉我们应该演示什么。我记不起我昨天做了什么。所以那是我第一次觉得:“哦,这里有些东西。”这很有趣,我欣赏他们这一点。
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Rick Blelock: And then during all that time, Cognition Labs demoed Devon. How many how many of remember the demo of Devon when it was demoed? Marketed as the first AI software engineer remember that interesting. And of course, you know, early days there was the hype cycle that maybe outpaced the product a little bit at the time. Personally, in my opinion, I thought it was kind of the right balance of a little bit of controversy and vision casting coupled with a decent product launch. That's what I thought. But fast forward to today, and it's honestly, it's one of the most capable agentic uh engineering products out there. And it's free from the nitty-gritty like messaging of workflows and frameworks. I kind of thought it was a breath of fresh air. I I I met Walden, one of the founders co-founders in Salesforce Park last year and I was I was telling him like I really want to put Devon more in our in our flow and I I know I want to integrate it more and I was thinking traditionally like frameworks and stuff like that like how do how do I stitch this together? How do I put it in this? And after talking to Walden it was like well just give Devon some scripts and some access to your tools and it'll just it just do that. So it it was, you know, free from that MCP theater and workflow theater. And it was the first time that I started thinking, oh, I should treat this coding agent for more than just code, but managing our demos. We did Friday demos um every it's it's on our YouTube. It's public demos. And Devon helped us. Devon literally would tell us what we would demo. I can't remember what I worked on yesterday. Um so it was the first time I was like, "Oh, well, there's something here." interesting um and I appreciate that about them.
Rick Blelock: 所以所有这些都在进行中,与此同时,我们有世界各地的客户和真实企业在问:智能体的用例是什么?它们是什么?试图理解它们如何真正融入他们的公司。我的意思是,我无法告诉你有多少次我与商业人士交谈,他们问:智能体是什么?是这个吗?是那个吗?而且只有开发者才理解编排和框架的复杂性,这有点混淆了视听,也许让一些商业人士觉得有点像江湖骗子之类的东西,或者被指责说:“啊,你们这些加密兄弟现在又玩AI了”之类的,你知道,你会听到很多这样的说法。
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Rick Blelock: So all this is going on and meanwhile we have customers and real businesses around the world saying what are the use cases for agents? What are they? Trying to understand how they actually fit inside their company. I mean I can't tell you how many times I've had conversations with business people like what are the agents? Is it this? Is it that? and kind of only devs kind of understood the complexity of the orchestration and the frameworks and it kind of muddied the waters and maybe made it look like a little bit of snake uh snake oil salesman kind of stuff to some of the business people um or getting accused like ah you guys are just crypto bros that are using AI now or whatever you know you kind of get a lot of that
Rick Blelock: 但后来以OpenClaw为例,OpenClaw将足够多的东西整合在一起,帮助普通人理解智能体,特别是自主性在软件中可能是什么样子。Devon帮助开发者理解了智能体在我们世界中的用例,OpenClaw帮助非开发者理解了智能体在他们世界中的用例。你知道,作为工程师,我们喜欢抨击OpenClaw,对吧?它都是这些脚本和这些复杂性。它不安全。但与此同时,非技术人员正在购买Mac mini。你现在买不到Mac mini。我的意思是,我敢肯定这不在Cook先生的预料之中,他会把Mac mini卖光。他们正在复制粘贴指令到一个他们从未听说过的叫做Terminal的应用程序中。他们从未使用过它。他们不知道自己在做什么。他们为什么这样做?因为他们理解用例。他们愿意忍受这种奇怪的痛苦,因为他们理解从中可以获得的价值。而且模型已经到了这样的程度,你知道,它感觉不像那么脆弱。所以突然之间,自主智能体对一大群以前不理解的人来说变得有意义了。你知道,以前我提到自主智能体时,他们会说:“你在说什么鬼话?这听起来像垃圾,对吧?”嗯,而所有这些之上,我们正在谈论的是编码智能体。这就是我们所说的编码智能体。
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Rick Blelock: um but then use openclaw as an example open claw stitch together enough things that it helped normies understand what an agent specifically agency can be in software. What Devon helped um with developers understanding an agent use case for our world, OpenClaw helped non-devs understand agent use cases for theirs. You know, as engineers, we like to bash OpenClaw, right? It's all these these scripts and these complexities. It's insecure. But meanwhile, you have non-technical people buying Mac minis. You can't buy a Mac Mini right now. I mean, I'm sure this was not on uh Mr. Cook's bingo card that he would sell out of Mac Minis. Um, and they're copy and pasting instructions into an app they've never heard called Terminal. And they've never used it. They don't know what they're doing. Why are they doing that? Because they understand the use case. they they're willing to suffer this weird pain because they understand the value they can get from it. And the models are at the point where, you know, it doesn't feel super brittle. So all of a sudden, autonomous agent makes sense to a large group of people that didn't get it before. You know, before I was like, autonomous agent, they're like, "What the heck are you talking about? This sounds like crap, right?" Um, and sitting on top of all of that, what we're talking about is a coding agent. That's what we're talking about as a coding agent.
Rick Blelock: 所以我们现在是2026年,如果我说编码智能体是一种通用软件原语。我们更多的人理解这实际上是真的。你知道代码不仅仅是开发者工件。它不仅仅是开发者工件。编码智能体不仅仅是开发者的工具。编码智能体可以实现所有其他类型的智能体。甚至一个无法描述他在构建多个帮助他管理业务的智能体时发生了什么的普通人。一个编码智能体可以构建一个聊天机器人。它可以进行RAG。它可以编排其他智能体。它可以自动化自己的工作流程,而不仅仅是你的。它可以创建一个数据库,在其中填充数据,并用它来回答自己的问题。
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Rick Blelock: So here we are 2026 and if I say a coding agent is a universal software primitive. A lot more of us understand that this is actually pretty true. You know code isn't just a developer arch um artifact. It's not just a developer artifact. It is a coding agent isn't just a harness for developers. It's not a coding agent can implement every other type of agent. And even a a normie who can't describe what's going on when he builds multiple agents that help him manage his business. A coding agent can build a chatbot. It can do rag. It can orchestrate other agents. It can automate its own workflow, not just yours. It can create a database, stuff in it, and use it to answer its own questions.
Rick Blelock: 找个时间试试。拿Titanic的规范数据集,让它放入数据库。它会创建一个模型,在其中填充数据,知道如何更新它。你知道,我们把动物的智力归因于它们是否能制造复杂的或复合的工具,它们拥有高智力。虽然我知道你们有些人会挑剔智能体的智力意味着什么,但我们已经达到了编码智能体的水平。如果你给它们正确的指令,编码智能体会为自己构建工具。
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Rick Blelock: Try that sometime. Take the canonical Titanic data set and um have it put in a database. It'll create a model, stuff things in there, know how to um update it. You know, we attribute intelligence of animals um as if they if they can build complex or compound tools, they have high intelligence. And although I know some of you will want to nitpick on what intelligence means when it comes to a coding agent, we are there with coding agents. Coding agents will build their own tools for themselves if you have the right instructions for them.
Rick Blelock: 所以在2026年,融合是我们的拐点。你知道,沙盒正在赋予智能体一个身体。模型智能现在正在赋予它们大脑,对吧?我们有了这些好的协议,我们开始弄清楚神经系统。然而,一年前当我提到智能体需要不同的基础设施方法时,人们会想,为什么框架需要不同的基础设施方法?我不理解。但现在有了编码智能体,他们会说,哦,是的,它确实需要。它确实有点道理。我们确实需要一些更专门为编码智能体构建的东西,让它运行所有软件,成为大部分软件。现在这更容易理解了。
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Rick Blelock: So in 2026, convergence is I mean this is the inflection point for us. You know, sandboxes are giving agents a body. Model intelligence is now giving them the brain, right? we got these good protocols that we're starting to kind of figure out the nervous system. Whereas, you know, a year ago when I said agents need a different approach to infra, people were thinking, well, why does a framework need a different infra approach? I don't understand that. But now with coding agents now, they're like, oh yeah, it does. It does kind of make sense. We do kind of need something a little more purpose-built for a coding agent to run all the software to be all a lot of the software. Now it's a little more understandable.
Rick Blelock: 编码智能体仍然需要很多东西。你知道,在Agentuity,我们不得不调整我们的思维。一年前,我们启动了一个开发者水平开发者云平台,现在它更像是一个智能体平台,供智能体运行。所有这些它们需要的东西。你知道,它是一个行动的地方,一个持久化的地方,一个生存的地方,一个观察的地方,一个集成的地方,一个管理的地方。而且我们能提供的仍然存在差距,对吧?我的意思是,那些老旧的云,如果我可以这样称呼它们的话,正在试图销售一二十年前的基础设施,对吧?它们确实如此。它们披着一层尖端技术的外衣,但当你深入了解时,一切仍然是拼凑起来的。老实说,有点像我们个人的编码智能体设置。一切都像只是拼凑在一起。而且服务老实说仍然是为无状态Web技术构建的。而编码智能体,你会觉得,我试图把它硬塞进去。我的意思是,当我与人交谈时,故事总是相同的。他们会说,哦,我们从无服务器开始,尝试部署它,但你猜怎么着?我的智能体运行了五分钟,而无服务器在30秒内就超时了,然后不可避免地在经历了一堆实验之后,你最终回到了EC2,你运行的就像我们2008年的软件一样,一遍又一遍又一遍又一遍又一遍。这就是我们在Agentuity试图做的,就是,你知道,让智能体感觉不像是在2008年运行。
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Rick Blelock: The coding agents still need a lot of this. You know, at a aentuity, we had to adjust our thinking. A year ago, started a developer horizontal developer cloud platform, and now it's kind of more like an agent platform that's for agents to run to for them to run. Um, and all these things here that they need. Um, you know, it's a place to act, a place to persist, to live, a place to observe, to integrate, to manage. And there's still like gaps in our in what we can offer, right? I mean, the the boomer clouds, if I can call them that, are are trying to sell the infra from a decade or two ago, right? They really are. And they have this veneer of cutting edge, but when you get in, it's all still kind of hacked together. Honestly, kind of like our personal coding agent setups. It's all kind of like just, you know, stitched together. And ser services honestly still built for stateless web tech. and a coding agent, you're like, I'm try to shoehorn this into this. I mean, the story is always the same when I talk to people. It's like, oh, we started at serverless, try to deploy it, but guess what? My agent runs for five minutes and serverless times out in 30 seconds and then and invariably after like a bunch of experience experiments, you end up on EC2 and you're running like we were software in 2008 over and over and over and over and over again. That's what we're trying to do at agentuity is like, you know, make it so agents don't feel like they're running in uh 2008.
Rick Blelock: 但考虑到这一点,把这个问题搁置一下。考虑到这一点,回到OpenClaw和普通人的用例。普通人不理解或不知道我刚才提到的所有关于基础设施以及这些东西需要如何运作的事情。然而,Mac mini仍然在Apple销售,他们正在复制粘贴,并且他们正在获得结果。这就是我认为我们必须做出的思维转变。编码智能体是软件的基础。现在,非工程师已经理解了这一点。他们确实理解。他们可能无法用我们这些疯狂的方式来表达,但我认为他们可能比一些工程师更快地理解了这一点。你知道,我们忙着挑剔编码智能体会犯糟糕的、疯狂的、愚蠢的、白痴的错误。
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Rick Blelock: But with that in mind, put a pin in that. With that in mind, back to openclaw and use cases for normies. Normies don't understand or know all the things that I just mentioned about the infra about what's needed for this stuff to work. Yet still, Mac minis are being sold at Apple and they're copying pasting and they're getting outcome. And this is the mind shift that I think we have to make. The coding agents, they are a fundamental to software. Now, non-engineers already understand this. They they do. They they they maybe can't articulate it in all these crazy ways that we can, but I think they probably understand it faster than some engineers grasp it. You know, we're busy poking holes in the fact that coding agents make bad mistakes, crazy, stupid, idiotic mistakes.
Rick Blelock: 嗯,你知道,我们很快就会指出智能体精神病,我也有,我们很多人都有。但随后非工程师们正在使用这些东西,他们认为当我们坐在那里抱怨时,他们会说:“好吧,你用的是和我一样的东西吗?”因为他们正在用这个经营他们的业务,这就是他们所想的。你知道,如果你在一个派对上,你等着,这个人正在谈论他是如何完成所有这些事情的,而你只是等着停顿,然后你说:“是的,但是编码智能体会犯错。你在这里。我在这里。你看到区别了吗?”你知道,如果你是那样的人,他们会看着你然后说:“我想你患有精神病。你患有软件工程精神病。”那就是会发生的事情。我的意思是,举个例子,我认识一个人,他六十多岁,是一位非常成功的企业家。他建立了一家为Toyota做很多事情的制造公司。现在他在德克萨斯州开了一家建筑公司。他每月向HubSpot支付数万美元。他说,我只是要自己建立它。我将使用编码智能体,我将使用编码智能体来运行我使用的一点点HubSpot。他做到了。他在大约三个月内做到了。另一个例子是周六我在佛罗里达州Jupiter和这个人一起吃早餐。他24岁。他经营一家窗户清洁公司,他用编码智能体经营他的业务,包括营销、销售、销售估算。所以,你知道,如果我告诉他,啊,编码智能体会犯错,他会说,是的,但是我的生产力在这里高得多。你在说什么?今天这里有一位大型金融公司的前CIO,他用它来开董事会会议。所以我的观点是,对于普通人来说,基础的智能体原语已经是一个编码智能体了。他们可能没有意识到,他们可能无法表达。你认为未来哪些智能体将负责组织结构图上的工作,以及未来事物中的重点工作?我认为是编码智能体。如果你展望一下近期未来,六个月,10个AI年,编码智能体将被用来创建和管理其他智能体,以管理组织结构图中某些部分的工作。
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Rick Blelock: Um, and you know, we're quick to point out agent psychosis, which I have, a lot of us have. Um, but then the non-engineers, they're using this stuff and they think when we when we're like sitting there complaining about, they're like, "All right, are you using the same thing I'm using?" Because I'm running my business on this is what they're thinking. You know, if you're at the if you're at a party and you're wait and this guy's talking about how he's gotten done all these things and you're just waiting for the pause and you're like, "Yeah, but coding agents, they make mistakes. You you're here. I'm here. You see the difference?" You know, um if if you're that if you're there, they're they're going to look at you and go, "I think you have psychosis. You have software engineering psychosis." That that's what's going to happen. I mean, just as an example, so there's um there's a man I know, he's in his mid60s, very successful entrepreneur. He built a manufacturing company that did a bunch of stuff for Toyota. And now he started this construction company in Texas. And he was paying tens of thousands of dollars to HubSpot a month for this company. And he's like, I'm just going to build it on my own. I'm going to use coding agents and I'm going to use coding agents to run the little bit of HubSpot that I use. And he did. He did it in about three months. Um, another example on Saturday I had up in Jupiter, Florida, I had um I had breakfast with this guy. He's 24 years old. He runs a wind window cleaning company and he runs his business with a coding agent, his marketing, his sales, his sales estimates. So, you know, if I told him, ah, coding agents make mistakes, he's like, yeah, but like I'm like way up here in productivity. What are you talking about? There's an exe a former uh CIO of a large financial firm that's in here today and he uses it uh for his board meetings. So my point is the foundational agent primitive is already a coding agent for normies. They maybe they don't realize it, maybe they can't articulate it. And what kind of agents do you think are going to be tasked with working on the org chart, the focused work of of things in the future? And I think it's coding agents. If you peer just in the near future, six months, 10 AI years, coding agents will be used to create and manage other agents to manage certain parts of the org charts work.
Rick Blelock: 我的意思是,我们正在用我们的竞争性营销来做这件事。我们有这个叫做GEM的智能体集合,它管理着大约50个竞争对手或我们称之为亦敌亦友的公司,我们对其进行监控。这些智能体不断地观察。我不会告诉你们它们在观察什么,但它们观察着各种各样的事情,各种各样的信号。我们知道我们身处何方,它们身处何方,信息传递。这家公司可能即将转型,因为它们在站点地图中大幅改变了信息传递,等等。所以它管理着我们营销工作的一个相当大的部分,而且它将被非工程师用来管理他们的工作和他们的组织。领导者将直接指挥编码智能体,顺便说一句,不是直观地,不是在两个方面。所以下次当你争论我们应该使用什么框架来构建AI智能体,它应该如何工作时,选择一个编码智能体。这有点像昨天Ben Ben在上次演讲中提到的。他谈到了那些不同的Versk和PI以及Open Code SDK。试试那个。尝试使用编码智能体。你知道,好的编码智能体有SDK。它们有服务器端处理。它们有按需沙盒,你可以从中恢复,它们有内置的可观察性,这也是我们Agentuity正在大力尝试做的事情。你最初是一个开发者平台,有点像,嘿,智能体实际上是我们平台的一个客户角色。有所有这些来自普通人和想要大规模运行这些东西的人的兴趣。他们不知道如何做。所有这些都建立在编码智能体、多玩家编码智能体、相互观察的智能体、相互告知该做什么的智能体之上。所以这就是我们正在努力的方向。所以是的,Mark Andre他说软件吞噬了世界,现在我认为编码智能体正在吞噬软件。谢谢。
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Rick Blelock: I mean, we're doing that with our competitive marketing. We have this this uh it's called GEM. It's this set of agents that manage we have about 50 competitors or frennemies we call them that we monitor. And um these agents are constantly watching. I won't tell you what they're watching, but they're watching all sorts of things, all sorts of signals. And um we we know like everything about where we are, where they are, the messaging. This company's probably about to pivot because they changed this messaging a lot in their site map, whatever. Um so it's managing a sizable part of our marketing stuff and it's and it will be used by non-engineers to manage their work and their organization. leaders will direct coding agents and it's not intuities by the way not in two. So next time you're debating what framework should we use for building an AI agent, how it should work, pick a coding agent. It's kind of like Ben Ben at the last talk yesterday. He he talked about those different versk and pi and open code SDK. Um try that out. Try using a coding agent instead. You know the good ones they have an SDK. They have server side handling of things. They have on demand sandboxes that you can pick up resume uh where where they left off and they have observability built in and that's also what we're trying to heavily do with agentity. Um you started as a developer platform kind of more like hey agent is a is actually a customer a persona of our platform. There's all this inbound interest from normies and people that want to run this stuff at scale. They don't know how to. Um, and it's all built on like coding agents, multiplayer coding agents that watch each other, agents that tell each other what to do. Um, so that's where we're going with this. So yes, Mark Andre and he said software ate the world and now I think coding agents are eating software. Thank you.
利用知识图谱优化上下文工程
主持人: 好的,大家好吗?玩得开心吗?太棒了。所以,假设我想构建我的应用程序。我有很多关于交易、地点的数据,它们之间存在关系,我希望我的智能体或我的应用程序能够查询这些信息。我必须将它们存储在数据库中。我可以将它们转储到Blob存储或SQL数据库中。但是,有没有更好的方法来存储所有这些信息,特别是如果实体之间存在关系?答案当然是肯定的。捕捉这些关系的最好方法是通过图。也许将它们存储在数据库中的更好方法是将它们存储在知识图谱中。下一位演讲者将向我们介绍如何通过利用这些知识图谱来优化我们的上下文工程。请欢迎Nia上台。
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主持人: Okay, how's it going everyone? Having fun? Great. So, let's say I want to build my app. I have a lot of data and uh about transactions, places, and there are relationships between them and uh I want my agents or or my app to query this information. I have to store them in a database. I can dump them in a blob storage or or maybe SQL database. But is there a better way to store all of this information especially if there are relationships between the entities? And the answer is of course yes. The best way to capture these relationships is through graphs. And maybe the better way to store them in a database is to store them in a knowledge graph. And the next presenter is going to talk to us about how we can optimize our um context engineering by leveraging these knowledge graphs. Please welcome Nia on the station.
Nia Mlin: 谢谢。谢谢大家。嘿,嘿,嘿。好的。是的。早上好,各位。你们好吗?
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Nia Mlin: Thank you. Thank you everyone. Hey, hey, hey. All right. Yes. Good morning everyone. How are you doing?
主持人: 好的。好的。我看到一些活力。我喜欢,我喜欢。我会把你们唤醒的。好的。所以,早上好,各位。我的名字是Nia Mlin,今天我们将深入探讨人工智能的有效上下文工程技术。顺便说一句,我喜欢这样做,我以前是一名教师。所以我喜欢用很多不同的方式让人们记住我们今天要讨论的概念。不仅仅是坐在这里听讲座,而是真正从概念上理解正在发生的事情。我喜欢确保从最高级别的首席安全官、首席信息官、CTO,以及可能是一名初级开发者或实习生,都能理解这些概念。好的。那么,让我们直接进入主题。我将从一个问题开始。好的。我将让大家参与进来。那么,你们中有多少人,这几乎对每个人都是肯定的,但有多少人已经将智能体部署到生产环境了?很多人,对吧?很多人。好的。那么,好的。在那些已经将智能体部署到生产环境的人中,有多少人曾让智能体在生产环境中做了一些让你质疑自己职业选择的事情?质疑你的职业选择。对吧。我不应该成为一名工程师。我很抱歉。我搞垮了生产环境。客户现在正在哭泣。他们非常生气。这发生过。它确实发生过,没关系。
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Nia Mlin: Okay. Okay. I see some energy. I love it. I love it. Well, I'm going to wake you up. Okay. So, good morning everyone. My name is N Mlin and today we're going to get into effective context engineering techniques for artificial intelligence. So, as I like to do, by the way, um I'm a teacher in a past life. So, I like to get um lots of different ways that people can remember the concept that we're going to be talking about today. Not just sit here listening to a lecture, but actually conceptually understanding what's going on. And I like to make sure that people from the highest chief security officers, highest chief information officers, CTO's as well understand the concepts as well as maybe a junior developer or an intern. All right. So, um, let's get right into it. And I'm gonna start off with a question. All right. I'm gonna get us all engaged. So, how many of you all, and this is going to be a yes to pretty much everyone, but how many of you have shipped an agent to production? Lots of people, right? Lots of people. Okay. So, all right. Of those of you who've shipped an agent to production, how many of you have had that agent then do something in production that made you question your career choices? Question your career choices. Right. I shouldn't be an engineer. I'm so sorry. I brought down prod. Customers are crying right now. They are so angry. It's happened. It has happened and that's okay.
Nia Mlin: 好的,让我们进入一个场景。对吧?所以这实际上是真实的赌注。这每天都在发生。对吧?所以一个合规团队将运行一个智能体管道,对吧?那个智能体将检索单独的块。所以那个块将是,例如,Jessica,一个假设的人物,在Apex Global工作,对吧?然后Apex实际上在制裁观察名单上。好的,这很有趣。然后Jessica实际上已经请求了25,000美元的信用额度增加。所以所有这三个块都已收到,对吧?所有这三个都坐在我们的上下文窗口中。所以智能体YOLO将批准它。它将批准这个信用额度增加。Jessica的请求似乎没有任何问题。她有优秀的信用。她的信用评分是850。没有问题。我们只是要YOLO并批准它。我们只是要快速地vibe bank。你们不喜欢vibe banking吗?你们不想要vibe banking吗?那个智能体将批准那个请求,不是因为智能体本身甚至模型不好,而是因为这些事实之间的联系实际上从未在向量空间中表示。对吧?所以它不仅仅是数据,它不是检索,而是模型实际上必须进行猜测,实际上它猜错了。好的,它猜错了。所以,没有人发现,直到诉讼到来。
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Nia Mlin: Right? So let's get into a scenario. Right? So this is actually real table stakes. This happens every day. Right? So a compliance team is going to run an agent pipeline, right? And that agent is going to retrieve separate chunks. So that chunk is going to be for example Jessica hypothetical person works at Apex Global, right? And then Apex is actually on the sanctions watch list. Okay, that's interesting. And then Jessica has actually requested a $25,000 credit increase. So all three of these chunks have been received, right? And all three are sitting there in our context window. So the agent YOLO is going to approve it. is going to approve this credit line increase. There seems to be nothing wrong with Jessica's request. She has excellent credit. She's a 850 credit score. There's no problems. We're just going to yolo and approve that. We're just going to vibe bank real quick. Y'all don't like vibe banking? Y'all don't want vibe banking? that agent is going to approve that request not because the agent itself or even the model is bad but because the connection between these these facts is actually never represented anywhere in vector space. Right? So it wasn't just the data, it wasn't the retrieval, but the model actually had to do a guess and actually it guessed wrong. Okay, it guessed wrong. So, nobody caught that until the lawsuit came.
Nia Mlin: 直到诉讼到来,你的上级现在正在联系你,问你谁编写了智能体,为什么智能体会这样回答?为什么智能体会批准这个请求?你会怎么说,对吧?每个人都在听。你在这里汗流浃背。你很紧张。好的。但这个教程确实一直出现在我的桌面上,对吧?在接下来的25分钟里,我将向你们展示到底发生了什么,以及我们可以用来解决这个问题的技术。现场证明。所以就像我之前提到的,这种情况总是发生。你说你不知道,然后你被解雇了。受不了,受不了。需要支付这些账单。
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Nia Mlin: Until the lawsuit came and your scene, your your skip level is now hitting you up asking you who wrote the agent, why did the agent answer this way? Why did the agent actually approve this request? And what are you going to say, right? Everyone is listening. You are sweating bullets over here. You are stressed. Okay. But this actually this tutorial does keep landing on my desk, right? And in the next 25 minutes, I'm going to show you all exactly what happens and the techniques that we can use to fix this. Prove it live. So like I had mentioned this this scenario always happens. You say you don't know and you end up fired. Can't stand it. Can't stand it. Need to pay these bills.
Nia Mlin: 所以这里发生的是,当我们依赖向量搜索时,文本相似性会找到具有相似含义的文档,而结构相似性则会找到具有相似连接的实体。所以几乎是在构建第二个,我想 upfront 告诉你们,这样你们就知道我在这里想论证什么:我们房间里使用的每个检索管道,我们都在使用普通的朴素RAG、混合搜索、排名等等。它在一个维度上操作:这个文本相似性部分。这个块在含义上与查询本身有多接近,这可以让你完成70%的工作,对吧?甚至可以让你完成80%的工作。但几乎没有人正在构建第二个维度。那就是结构相似性部分,对吧?不是这两个文档做相同的事情,而是这些实体是否以相同的方式连接。对吧?所以当我们考虑企业银行客户的信用额度增加时,然后我们又考虑所有雇主都列在联邦制裁观察名单上的概念。这并不意味着相同的事情,对吧?所以你的向量搜索实际上永远不会将这些事情表面化为相互关联的,它们也不会相互关注。但关系,对吧,Jessica、她的雇主以及那些制裁之间的关系,这不是一个含义问题。这是一个连接问题。对吧?所以现在每个人,或者说现在没有人真正使用智能体管道来查看连接。而这正是我们这里缺失的关键维度。
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Nia Mlin: So what's happening here is that text similarity when we're when we're relying on vector search it finds documents that have a similar meaning right structural similarity on the other hand find entities that have similar connections so almost is actually building the second one and I want to give you this upfront so that you know exactly what I'm trying to argue here every retrieval pipeline that we're using right in the room we're using normal naive rag hybrid search ranking everything like that. It operates on one dimension. This text similarity piece. How close is this chunk in meaning to even the query itself and that work that can get you like 70% of the way, right? It could even get you 80% of the way. But there's a second dimension that almost no one is building upon. And that is that structural similarity piece, right? not do these two documents the same thing but actually are these entities connected in the same way. Right? So when we're thinking about a credit line increase for a corporate banking client then and then we're also thinking about this concept of everyone listed uh at the employer is listed on the federal sanctions watch list. That doesn't mean the same thing, right? So your vector search is actually never going to surface those things as being connected and and they're not going to look at each other. But the relationship, right, the relationships between Jessica, between her employer, and then those sanctions as well, that isn't a meaning problem. It's a connection problem. Right? So right now everyone um or right now nobody really is using an agent pipeline to see connections. And that's the vital dimension that we're missing here.
Nia Mlin: 所以,即使研究也支持这一点,对吧?我们都见过这种“没关系,一切都会好起来的”的情况,对吧?MIT的NANDA倡议,你可以随意截图二维码阅读这份报告。我总是喜欢告诉人们阅读白皮书。不要只听在这里发言的人。但在他们2025年的GenAI Divide报告中,发现95%的AI试点项目没有带来可衡量的损益影响。对吧?95%。这是一个巨大的数字,对吧?我们正在构建智能体,将它们扩展到多智能体系统,投入数月的工程时间,然后项目被终止,因为它实际上没有达到质量标准。它没有达到隐私标准。它没有达到安全标准。它也没有达到透明度标准。所以MIT确定的核心差距是,系统不仅没有保留反馈,而且那些确保它们不保留反馈的系统没有适应上下文,或者它们根本没有随着时间改进,Gartner自己也预测,到2027年,40%的智能体AI项目将被取消,对吧?这里的模型不是问题,上下文才是问题。
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Nia Mlin: And so even research backs this up, right? We've all seen this like this is fine. It's going to be fine. We're all going to be fine, right? And MIT's NANDA initiative, you can feel free to take a screenshot of the QR code to read this report yourself. I always um like to tell people to read the white papers. Don't just listen to people who are up here speaking. But in their 2025 Genai Divide report, it found that 95% of AI pilots are delivering no measurable P&L impact. Right? 95%. That's a huge number, right? and we're building agents, we're scaling them into multi- aent systems, we're investing months of engineering time, and then the project is killed because it actually doesn't clear the bar for quality. It doesn't clear the bar for privacy. It doesn't clear the bar for security. And it doesn't clear the bar for transparency either. So the central gap that MIT had identified is that systems do not just retain feedback but the systems that are that are making sure that they don't retain that feedback are adapting to the context or they're not even improving over time and Gartner themselves as well is predicting that 40% of agentic AIA projects will be cancelled by 2027 right and the models here are not the problem the context is the problem.
Nia Mlin: 所以,更好的模型无法修复破碎的上下文。我希望你们和我一起重复这句话。好的?更好的模型无法修复破碎的上下文。句号。对吧?这就是所有这些共同点。对吧?这些智能体系统将通过你的文本相似性搜索进行检索,然后文本相似性在涉及到实际关系时,实际上有一个盲点,就像建筑物的大小一样。更好的模型无法修复破碎的上下文,它们只是在这些破碎的片段上进行推理。
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Nia Mlin: So, better models don't fix fractured context. I want you to repeat that with me. Okay? Better models don't fix fractured context. Period. Right? And that's where all of this all has in common. Right? these these um these atentic systems are going to retrieve via your text similarity search and then the text similarity it actually has a blind spot right of the size of the building when it comes to actual relationships better models don't fix fractured context they just reason over these broken pieces
Nia Mlin: 让我来向你们展示我的意思,对吧?所以在这个例子中,我们有一个人类对苹果的看法,对吧?有三种方式来表示左边的这个苹果。所以右边实际上是一个苹果的向量化视图。对吧?这只是一个浮点数数组。这是我们大多数嵌入模型理解苹果的文本引用的方式。对吧?这就是向量搜索将要操作的东西。它不是人类可读的。它非常不透明。然后中间是人类对苹果的看法。你看到一个苹果。你的大脑会立即隐式地处理所有关系,对吧?你甚至不用思考。你只是知道苹果是圆的。它是水果。我们不是在谈论公司。然后左边是苹果的知识图谱视图。对吧?苹果连接到一棵树。树连接到一个身体。身体有水果。它有茎。每个属性实际上都是一个节点,对吧?每个关系都是显式的。所以人类实际上可以阅读这个,并确切地理解模型对苹果的了解。这既是人类可读的,也是机器可读的。
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Nia Mlin: and let me show you what I mean right so on this example we have a human view of an right there's three ways to represent this apple on the left. So on the right actually we have a vectorzed view of an apple. Right? This is just an array of floatingoint numbers. It's a way that most of our embedding models they uh understand the textual reference of an apple. Right? This is what a vector search is going to operate on. It's not human readable. It's very opaque. And then in the middle we have the human view of an apple. You see an apple. Your brain processes all of the relationships implicitly instantly, right? You don't even think about it. You just know an apple is round. It's fruit. We're not talking about the company. And then on the left, we have a knowledge graph view of an apple, right? The apple connects to a tree. The tree connects to a body. The body has a fruit. It has a stem. Every property is actually a node, right? And every relationship is explicit. So a human can read this actually and understand exactly what the model knows about an apple. This is both human readable and machine readable as well.
Nia Mlin: 重点是,向量捕捉含义,对吧?它们知道事物与水果、红色和食物接近,但它通常是一个黑箱。你无法检查它。你无法问,好的,为什么这个模型知道这个苹果是圆的?你也无法审计它。知识图谱将捕捉这种结构并捕捉这种含义,它将更加透明,更具可查询性,对吧?更具可审计性,这是我们之前需要的例子,然后克服AI的黑箱问题。我们需要这些知识才能变得透明。
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Nia Mlin: And that's the thing, vectors capture meaning, right? They they know that things are close to fruit and red and food, but it's often a black box. You can't inspect it. You can't ask, okay, why does this model know that this apple is round? You can't audit it as well. A knowledge graph is going to capture that structure and capture that meaning and it's going to be much more transparent, more queryable, right? More auditable example that we needed before to then overcome AI's blackbox problem. And we need that knowledge to then be transparent.
Nia Mlin: 在我深入探讨这项技术之前,我想向你们展示一些数字,这些数字让我相信这不仅仅是一个理论,对吧?所以Jang及其整个团队在2026年3月的Eunations Magazine上发表了一篇文章,他们构建了ComGPT,这是一个用于电信领域的领域特定基础模型,他们对三个GP问答进行了适当的消融研究(ablation study)。所以他们有基础模型的准确率,对吧?基础模型的准确率是37%。当然。对。而AI,我们会接受它。但后来他们对领域数据进行了微调,然后准确率达到了大约54%。对吧?这是一个显著的改进,对吧?但这仍然不足以用于生产。所以他们将知识图谱和RAG结合起来,检索增强生成结合起来,获得了91%的准确率。对吧?所以不,它不仅仅是图谱。它不仅仅是RAG本身,但在这里,两者都有。对吧?这是关键点。RAG本身并不能弥合这个准确率差距,对吧?是知识图谱被用来解锁额外的准确率百分比。而且图谱不仅仅是锦上添花。它实际上是拥有一个演示系统和拥有一个生产系统之间的区别。所以从37%到54%是微调。从54%到91%是图谱加RAG。对吧?而中间的那个鼓,就是我所说的结构化检索维度,所有这些都经过了同行评审。
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Nia Mlin: And before I go deeper within this technique, I want to show you some of the numbers that convinced me that that this wasn't just a theory, right? So Jang at all he published uh and their entire team published an eunations magazine this March of 2026 and built com GPT it's a domain specific foundation model for telecom and they ran a proper abilation study on three GP question answering and so the base model they had the base model accuracy here right the base model accuracy had an accuracy of 37%. Sure. Right. And AI like we'll take it. Um but then they fine-tuned that model on domain data and then they got up to about 54%. Right? And then that's a significant improvement, right? But then that's still not going to work for production. So they then added both knowledge graphs and rag together, retrieval augmented generation together and got 91% accuracy rate. Right? So no, it's it's it's not just the graph. It's not just rag by themselves, but here it's both. Right? This is the critical point. Rag alone does not close this accuracy gap, right? It's the knowledge graph that was used to unlock that extra percentage of accuracy. And the graph wasn't just a nice to have. It's actually the difference between having a demo versus having a production system. So 37 to to 54 was the finetuning. 54 to 91 was with the graph plus rag right and that middle drum that's the structural retrieval dimension that I'm talking about and this is all again peer-reviewed in
Nia Mlin: 所以很快,我只想跳回到过去,我知道这有点争议,但我想论证,过去是我们通常进行上下文工程的方式。所以对于那些对这个术语不熟悉的人,也要向Dexy致敬,他创造了整个术语,昨天也发表了演讲。但我特别将上下文工程定义为能够系统地向模型提供所有相关信息、相关工具和相关指令,智能体需要这些信息,以正确的格式在正确的时间,以完成特定任务。所以它与提示工程非常不同,在提示工程中,你只是试图向LLM或智能体说出正确的词语,让它做你想要的任何事情,对吧?上下文工程的核心是构建动态系统,为每个LLM调用组装完整且结构化的上下文。所以,从巧妙措辞的提示转向全面的上下文设计,这就是为什么上下文工程现在被认为是AI工程师的一项关键技能。
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Nia Mlin: so quickly I just want to jump into the past and I know this is a little controversial but I would like to argue that the past um is how we're normally doing context engineering so for those uh who no one no one's new to this term also uh shout Shout out to Dexy who coined this entire term um and and also spoke yesterday. But I specifically define context engineering as being able to systematically provide models with all the relevant information, the relevant tools and the relevant instructions that your agent needs in the correct format at the correct time. All right, to then accomplish a specific task. So, it's very different from uh from pumped engineering where you're just trying to say the right words to an LLM or an agent to get it to do like whatever you want, right? Context engineering centers on building dynamic systems that assemble complete and structured context for each LLM invocation. So, the shift in focus from those cleverly worded prompts to a comprehensive contextual design is why context engineering is now considered a critical skill for AI engineers.
Nia Mlin: 大多数工程师都在使用这些各种技术的某种组合。对吧?所以有几种不同的技术,实践者经常使用它们来在智能体开发中获得上下文相关性。在我之前提到的例子中,这包括RAG和混合搜索,经典方法。我不会深入探讨所有这些,但对于那些对这个概念比较陌生的人,朴素RAG将使用一个嵌入式文档的向量数据库来执行相似性搜索。实际上,这有利有弊,但我甚至不会深入探讨。然后我们还有内存管理,其中智能体在长时间会话和许多不同会话中进行交互,并积累了大量信息。我用Dory来表示,因为你现在正在管理你将要忘记的东西。你可以使用滑动上下文和基于近因的记忆来丢弃历史记录。但让我们继续前进。你还可以使用上下文的结构化和排序。例如,Anthropic提供了如何处理长提示的指南。你将最相关和最关键的内容放在提示的顶部,因为模型在开始时会更关注这些内容。此外,我们可以使用工具和函数调用,而不是试图用所有原始数据来填充你的上下文,就像我看到你们大多数人试图做的那样。我们实际上会给它调用工具的指令,对吧?对于我们这些工程师来说,那实际上只是一个函数,或者我们可以将这些任务卸载到工具中。例如,与其给LLM一个大型表格并询问关于该表格的问题,这会消耗你所有的上下文token,不如给你的LLM一个数据库查询工具。最后,我喜欢用MacGyver来表示,对于我们这些年龄稍大一点的人来说,我们知道MacGyver总是有工具。但今天我想深入探讨的方法是使用知识图谱增强上下文。我之前提到过知识图谱这个概念,因为时间关系我不会深入探讨太多,但知识图谱,我将进行一个表示,这样你就可以看到它是什么样子。知识图谱是一种极其强大的方式,可以将结构化关系知识引入智能体的上下文。我喜欢将知识图谱增强上下文表示为Sherlock Holmes,对吧?因为Sherlock Holmes是一个完美的例子。他能够综合重要信息,然后追踪线索,这个追踪部分是为了解决一个特定的问题。对吧?这正是当你将知识图谱集成到你的AI堆栈中时,上下文工程允许你做的事情。
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Nia Mlin: And most engineers are using some combination of these various techniques here. Right? So there are several different techniques that practitioners are often using in order to get that contextual relevance in an agentic development. And in the example that I had mentioned before so that's including rag and hybrid search the classic approach. I'm not really going to go into all of these um but for those who are newer to the concept um uh naive rag is going to use a vector database of embedded documents to then perform a similarity search. Practically, there's pros and cons to that, but I won't even get into it. Um, and then we also have memory management where an agent interacts in a long session and across lots of different sessions and it accumulates lots of information. And I have that represented by Dory because you're now managing what you're going to forget. Um, and you can use sliding context and recency based memory of course as well to uh in order to drop history. But let's keep moving on. You can also use structuring and ordering of context. Um, enthropic for example gives guidelines on how to deal with long prompts. You put the most relevant stuff and the most critical stuff at the top of your prompt since models pay more attention to that at the beginning. And then additionally, we can use tools and function calling instead of trying to stop your context with all your raw data like I see most of you trying to do. We're actually going to give it um the instructions on how to uh call a tool, right? And really that's just a function for those of us who are engineers or we can offload those tasks to tools. So for example, instead of giving an LLM your large um like a a large table and asking a question about that table which would consume all of your context tokens, it might be better to give your LLM a database query tool for example. Um and then lastly for uh so I like to represent that as MacGyver for those of us who are a little bit older. We understand MacGyver always had a tool. Um but the method that I want to get into today into today is using knowledge graph augmented context. I had mentioned this concept of knowledge graphs before and I'm not going to dive too much into it because of time but knowledge graphs and I'll do a representation so you can see what it looks like. Knowledge graphs are an extremely powerful way to introduce structured relational knowledge into an agent's context. And I like to represent knowledge graph augmented context as Sherlock Holmes right because Sherlock Holmes is a perfect example. He's able to synthesize important information and then track down the clues, this tracing piece in order to solve a particular problem. Right? This is exactly what context engineering allows you to do when you integrate knowledge graphs into your AI stack.
Nia Mlin: 所以现在大多数人都有他们的数据结构,在这个例子中,对吧?表格和行是OG,对吧?如果你试图理解数据是如何关联的,你必须进行大量的复杂连接。但这就是问题所在。它会降低你应用程序的性能。但是如果你将所有数据,相同的数据结构化为知识图谱,那么关系、连接和分组就会变得更加清晰。所以现在你的智能体可以从一个信息节点跳到下一个节点,并且能够实际追踪它去了哪里并解释答案。如果你想了解更多关于如何获取数据并将其放入知识图谱的信息,我们有很多免费课程,而且我们是开源的。
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Nia Mlin: So most people right now they have their data structured in uh in this example, right? Tables and rows it is the OG, right? You have to do a number of different complex joins if you are trying to understand how that data is related. But that then there's the there's the caveat. It's going to draw down your performance of your application. But if you structure all of that data, that same data as a knowledge graph, then the relationships and the connections and the groupings become much more clear. So now your agent can hop from one node of information to the next and be able to actually trace where it went and explain the answer. And if you want to learn more about how to like take your data and put it in knowledge graph, we have lots of courses for free and we're open source.
Nia Mlin: 嗯,从架构的角度来看,在我进入新概念之前,我也想谈谈这一点。从架构的角度来看,AI堆栈中的知识层允许你:第一,保持结构和含义;第二,为所有智能体创建一个统一的内存层和检索层;第三,链接和统一所有这些数据源和对象;第四,同时弥合人类和机器的理解。然后底部还有你现有的数据平台。所以无论是Snowflake、Databricks、关系系统,知识层都将位于其之上,以一致且语义丰富的方式连接所有结构化和非结构化数据。所以从那里你可以拥有你的GenAI应用程序和编排层,比如Langchain或Semantic Kernel,或者你的智能体框架。它们可以插入并上下文地访问这些数据。
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Nia Mlin: Um, so from an architectural standpoint, I just wanted to touch this as well before I get into the new concept. Um, from an architectural standpoint, having a knowledge layer in the AI stack allows you to one hold structure and meaning, two, create a uniform memory layer, right, and retrieval layer for all your agents, and then three link and unify all of those data sources and objects together. And then four while bridging this human and um uh machine understanding and then at the bottom as well you've got your existing data platform. So whether that be snowflake data bricks relational systems right on top of that is going to sit this knowledge layer which connects all of your structured and unstructured data in a consistent and semantically rich way. So from there you can have your geni apps and orchestration layers like langchain or semantic kernel or your agentic frameworks. they can then plug into and access this data um contextually.
Nia Mlin: 但我想提醒大家,这并不是我们创造的概念,知识图谱已经存在很多年了。我们认为知识图谱和添加这个知识层的概念对人们来说很重要,因为它可以极大地提高你的AI应用程序的准确性、可追溯性和可审计性。因为我们很多人都只是在vibe banking,对吧?vibe banking毫无意义,对吧?我们为什么要花这么多钱却得到不准确的结果?这根本说不通。所以未来,我认为构建上下文并拥有可解释的AI智能体的未来,看起来就像这个概念。那么,有没有人读过去年12月发布的这篇论文?让我看看有谁举手。有人读过这篇论文吗?它叫做“AI的万亿美元机会:上下文图谱”。好的。一两个人。好的。那么对于那些对这个概念比较陌生的人,对吧?在当前关于构建AI智能体的对话中,它已经从使用上下文工程技术,比如使用朴素RAG,转向使用图RAG,然后使用知识图谱增强上下文,到现在我所说的使用上下文图谱。这不仅仅是术语上的改变,对吧?上下文图谱的概念实际上在这篇论文之前就已经存在了。但是它背后的含义对于构建AI智能体来说确实非常有帮助,对吧?所以当构建智能体时,我们需要这种决策追踪(decision trace)的概念,这样智能体才能变得可审计、更值得信任、更具可解释性。
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Nia Mlin: But I want to remind people like this is not a concept that we have created like knowledge graphs have has existed for many many years. And this concept of knowledge graphs and adding this knowledge layer we think is just important for folk to understand that it can drastically increase the accuracy, the traceability and the auditability of your AI applications because many of us are just like settling with vibe uh vibe everythinging right vibe banking which doesn't make any sense right like why are we spending so much money to have inaccurate results like it's just not making any sense. So the future what I'm would be the future of what building out context and then having explainable andable AI agents looks like this concept. So has anyone read this paper which came out in December? Let me see some hands. Anyone read this paper? Um it's called uh the AI's trillion dollar opportunity context graphs. Okay. Like one or two one or two. All right. Well for those who are newer to the um to this concept, right? like in present conversations around building AI agents, it has shifted from using techniques from context engineering um like using naive rag to using graph rag to then using knowledge graph augmented context to now what I'm talking about which is using context graphs and it's not simply a change in terminology right the the idea of context graphs has actually existed way before this paper um um uh but um uh the the meaning behind it is actually really really helpful for when building out AI agents, right? So when building out agents, we need this idea of this decision trace, right? So that agents can be auditable and can be more trustworthy and can be more explainable.
Nia Mlin: 而且,这里还有一些论文和研究,关于上下文图谱,甚至早于12月发表的那篇开创性文章。但是我们正在改变我们对智能体做出决策原因的理解,因为智能体不再仅仅是人们用来给你特定答案的工具。现在,智能体正在被构建来对我们的日常生活做出决策,对吧?这不再是玩笑。这不是演示。这不是我们正在构建的有趣的PO。现在我们正在构建智能体,它们正在对某人是否获得贷款做出决策,对吧?这会影响人们的生活和他们未来的财务繁荣。这正在对他们是否能拥有房屋或诸如此类的事情做出决策。它也在医学领域做出决策,对吧?我们正在赋予智能体如此大的权力,这就是为什么审计每个智能体所做决策的能力和必要性至关重要,尤其是在上下文工程中。
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Nia Mlin: And um there have also been and I have the uh the papers right here a number of different white papers and research around context graphs even prior to that seminal article that came out in December. Um, but we are shifting our understanding why agents make decisions because agents are no longer simply tools that people are using to give you a particular answer. Now, now agents are being built to make decisions about our everyday lives, right? Like this this this isn't a joke anymore. This isn't the demo. This isn't the fun um like like uh PO that we're building. Now we're building out agents that are making decisions about whether someone gets a loan, right? And that has impacts on people's lives and their financial uh prosperity going forward. Like it's it's uh making decisions about whether they can they can own a home or or what have you. It's making decisions in medicine as well, right? We're giving agents so much power and that's why the ability and the ne the necessity to audit the decisions that every agent is making is paramount especially with context engineering.
Nia Mlin: 所以缺失的“为什么”。所以当一个智能体建议批准,即使是Jessica之前提到的25,000美元的增加,甚至是100,000美元的信用额度增加时,问题不仅仅是这是否是正确的答案。我们必须明白,如果我们只是问这个问题,我们在这里对记忆的样子一无所知,对吧?你会问一个智能体关于上周的对话,那个智能体会说:“你在说什么,老兄?”就像,“我现在甚至不知道你是谁。”它们会那样说,但你也不会有这个审计追踪,对吧?当事情出错时,没有人知道你的智能体为什么做出那个决定。你们可以尝试看看,好的,你知道,我可以尝试逆向工程,看看ChatGPT或Anthropic Claude说了什么。然而,那个追踪是缺失的,而那是至关重要的信息,对吧?最重要的是,没有共享学习。你将部署多个智能体,它们无法在会话之间共享它们所学到的东西。
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Nia Mlin: So the missing why. So when an agent recommends approving a even a $25,000 increase like we had mentioned for Jessica before, but even a $100,000 credit line increase, the question isn't just is this the right answer. We have to understand that if we're just asking that question, we are we have no assemblance of what memory looks like here, right? You're going to ask an agent about last week's conversation and that agent's going to be like, "What you talking about, homie?" Like, "I I don't even know who you are right now." They gonna say that, but you're also not going to have this audit trail, right? When something goes wrong, no one knows why your agent decided that. Y'all can try and see, okay, you know, I can I can try and reverse engineer to see what chatb or anthropic cla like said. However, that a trail is missing and that's the vital information, right? And then on top of that, there's no shared learning. You're going to deploy multiple agents and they can't share what they've learned across sessions.
Nia Mlin: 那么,什么是上下文图谱这个概念呢?上下文图谱是一种知识图谱,专门设计用于捕捉你的决策追踪,对吧?每个重要决策背后的完整上下文、推理和因果关系。所以这与简单地将你的智能体开放给审计日志不同。例如,你可能会说,哦,我可以用审计日志来做。不,不,实际上,对吧?那会有逐行的交易历史,但你的智能体现在拥有来自上下文的广阔知识,对吧?通过上下文图谱,它拥有来自那些没有被记录下来的事物的广阔知识,对吧?那可能是资深架构师脑海中正在进行的对话,对吧?他们在构建智能体系统或一般软件时做出这些权衡和决策。对吧?它可能存在于你正在构建的Slack消息中,对吧?现在,它可以存在于你的电子邮件线程中,甚至你的Zoom会议中,对吧?所有这些连接的数据都可以显示在一个图谱中,向你展示所有这些完整的上下文,以及做出任何单一决策的完整原因。这现在将包括上下文图谱中的因果链和决策追踪,这些实际上可以被查询和遍历,以确保你的智能体更可靠、可审计和值得信任。
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Nia Mlin: So, what is this concept of a context graph? A context graph is a knowledge graph that's specifically designed to capture your decision traces, right? The full context, reasoning, and causal relationships behind every significant decision. So this differs from simply opening your agent up to an audit log for example. You might say oh I can just do that with an audit log. No, no, actually right that would have yes that would have the line by line transaction history but your agent now has this breath of knowledge from context right when with context graph it has this breath of knowledge from the things that were not written down right that could either be like the the conversation that's happening in the senior architect's mind right where they're making these trade-offs and these decisions when building out a either aentic system or software in general right it could live in the Slack messages that you're building out right Now, it can live in your email threads or even your Zoom meetings, right? All this connected data can show up in a graph that can show you all of that full context and the full why any single decision was made. And this is this is now going to include the causal chains and the decision traces within context graphs that can actually be queries and that can be traversed to ensure that your agents are more reliable, auditable, and trustworthy.
Nia Mlin: 所以我这里有相同的金融服务模型,我们将进行一个演示。有人在金融服务领域工作吗?我怀疑有没有人,但也许有,不,完全没有人举手。但没关系,我们仍然会做。但在这个数据模型中,我将教大家所有关于金融服务的东西。我们有一个图谱世界,我们将称这些实体为实体,对吧?这些圆圈将是实体。但它实际上只是人、地点和事物,对吧?我们还有智能体,抱歉,是事件,嗯,发生的事情,比如“什么”,对吧?最后,我们有上下文和“为什么”,决策、政策等。这就是模型。所以,我们可以看看这在实践中是什么样子。轰,轰,轰。如果你想拍张照片,或者实际观看演示,你可以随意这样做。让我看看我把它放在哪里了。不。在哪里?啊,好的。轰。
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Nia Mlin: So I have the same financial uh services model here and we're going to go through a demo anyone work in I doubt people work in financial services but possibly nope exactly zero hands but that's okay we're still going to do it but in this data model I'll teach you all about financial services uh we have a graph um uh world called and we're going to call these entities right these circles will be entities um but it's really just people places and things right and we also have agents sorry events, um the things that happened like the what, right? And then lastly, we have the context and the why, the decisions, the policies, etc. That's the model. So, we can get into what this looks like in practice. Boom, boom, boom. If you want to um take a picture of this or actually look at the demo live, you can feel free to do that. Let me see where I put it. Nope. Where is? Ah, okay. Boom.
Nia Mlin: 好的。所以我有一个实时的,我还有一个我的另一个,但我一直在修改代码,试图添加一些新功能。你知道,永远不要在演示前最后一刻添加新功能。它会崩溃的。它会崩溃的。所以,我这里有一个实时演示。嗯,你们很多人都像我们都在谈论上下文图谱,我们想看看这在实践中到底是如何运作的。所以我要在这里运行这个查询。所以我们有一个常规的AI助手,用于这个金融服务用例。我们将问自己,我们是否应该批准Jessica之前提出的25,000美元的信用额度增加。
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Nia Mlin: All right. So, I have a live one and I I have a um my other one, but I was I was messing around with the code trying to add some new features. You know, never to add new features last minute before you're going to do a demo. It's going to break. It's going to break. So, um so I have a live demo here. Um, and many of you are like we're all talking about context graphs and we want to see like how does this actually work in practice. So I'm going to run this query here. So we have an regular AI assistant for this financial services use case. We're going to ask ourselves like should we actually approve the $25,000 credit increase that we had for Jessica earlier.
Nia Mlin: 让我们看看这个图谱是如何构建的。我想确保每个人都能看到它。是的,完美。好的。所以我们有一个人提交了一个关于特定交易的支持工单。好的,我们正在看到这个图谱被构建。但那笔交易随后会触发一个警报,对吧?当标记整个账户时。然后那个警报会将所有这些信息纳入整个系统的上下文中,这将导致一个决策追踪,你会在右边看到,它是基于政策的,然后传达回给最初拥有账户的人。
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Nia Mlin: And let's see this graph get built. I want to make sure that everyone can see it. Yeah, perfect. All right. Um, so we have a person who submitted a support ticket about a specific transaction. All right, we're we're seeing this graph get built. But that transaction is then going to trigger an alert, right? When flagging this entire account. That then alert is going to take take that all of that into cons into into context for this entire system which is going to cause a decision trace which you see on the right which is based on policy and then communicated back to the person who owns the account in the first place.
Nia Mlin: 所以把它想象成一个银行的分析师,对吧?他将使用这个智能体来回应特定的客户请求。分析师将收到这些客户请求。我们应该增加Jessica Norris的25,000美元信用额度吗?我们应该这样做吗?嗯,银行分析师可以YOLO,vibe bank。我只是把这个给你,Jessica,因为你是我的好女孩,对吧?绝对不行。谢谢你们笑我的笑话。所以,如果你们不想vibe banking,为什么你们在没有决策追踪的情况下这样做?你们,这对我来说看起来很混乱。你们好像在抱怨我。
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Nia Mlin: So think of this like an a an analyst at a bank right who's going to um use this agent to respond to a particular customer request. The analyst is going to have this customer requests come in. Should we increase this credit lo increase for Jessica Norris? Should we do it? Um, and the bank analyst can can say yolo by bank. Let me just give that to you, Jessica, because you're my girl, right? Absolutely not. Thank you for laughing at my jokes. So, if y'all don't want vibe banking, why are y'all doing this without decision traces? Like, y'all, it seems messy to me. like y'all are whing to me.
Nia Mlin: 但是,如果我们检查这个智能体,我们可以看到我们在这里定义了许多不同的工具。让我过来。嗯,我们可以看到我们定义了许多工具。所以我们正在进行这种工具调用,我们可以看到。我甚至看不到,但也许你们可以看到。嗯,但我们有这个智能体,它正在与我们的上下文图谱交互。然后我们有系统提示,对吧?它将包含这些特定的工具调用,这些调用将获取数据或上下文,这些数据或上下文是做出特定建议所必需的,所有这些都呈现在你中心看到的这个图谱中。所以我们将看到导致智能体做出特定建议的因果链。在这种情况下,建议是,我们将一直往下看,看看实际上,嗯,与其认为我们可以直接YOLO banking,不如看看回应。好的。所以我将帮助你评估它。建议是拒绝这次信用额度增加。好的。所以建议是拒绝Jessica Norse的25,000美元信用额度增加,基于我对上下文图谱的分析。我强烈建议拒绝Jessica Norse的25,000美元信用额度增加。这是我的详细理由。关键风险因素是,最近发现的请求已经在几天前的4月9日被拒绝了。而且Jessica Norris的账户去年实际上发生了严重的欺诈历史。所以他们有一个已知的欺诈类型,其中速度检查(velocity check)显示在29分钟内发生了14笔交易。还有一个地理异常,IP位置与账户地址不符。所有这些都可以由Jessica解释清楚,如果它们被解释清楚,那么上下文图谱将根据该决策进行更新。但其中也存在多项合规违规。所以你可以看到AI助手,特别是智能体,正在告诉你它做出决策的完整理由,你也可以在右边看到精确的决策追踪,详细说明正在发生的事情以及置信度分数。所以你可以随意自己尝试。再次强调,它是context-graph demo.vercell.app,如果你想自己尝试的话。
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Nia Mlin: But so if we inspect this agent here, we can see that we've defined a number of different tools here. Let me come over. Um we can see that we've defined a number of tools. So we're doing this tool calling that we can see. I can't even see that, but maybe y'all can. Um but we have this um this agent which is interacting with our context graph. And then we have the system prompt, right? um which is going to have these specific tool calls which is going to fetch data or the context um that's necessary to make a specific recommendation and all of that is then rendered within this graph that you see in the center. So we'll see the causal chain of what led to a specific recommendation from the agent. And in this case uh the recommendation is to and we'll follow all the way down to see actually um instead of thinking that we can just yolo banking we can just let's see the let's see the response. All right. So I'll help you evaluate it. The recommendation is to reject this credit line increase. All right. So the recommendation is to reject the credit line increase based on my analysis of the context graph. I strongly recommend rejecting Jessica Norse's $25,000 credit line increase. And here is my detailed reasoning. Critical risk factors, there was a recent identified request already rejected um April 9th, couple days ago. And then there's actually significant fraud history that happened within um within Jessica Norris's account last year. So they had um a known fraud typology where the velocity check the number of transactions 14 transactions in 29 minutes happened. There was also a geographic anom um where that IP location was inconsistent with the accounts address. All these can be explained away by Jessica and if they are explained away then that context graph will then update based on that decision. Um but there are multiple compliance violations as well within this. So you can see the AI assistant and the agent specifically telling you the entire reasoning behind the decisions that it's making and you can see the exact decision trace on the right as well detailing what's happening with as the uh confidence score as well. So u feel free to try this on your own. Again it's context-graph demo.vercell.app if you want to try it on your own. And then
Nia Mlin: 让我们回到幻灯片。好的,我将总结一下。那么这一切是如何运作的呢?对吧?所以如果我们想看看这个智能体是如何追踪决策历史以及如何使用上下文图谱的,首先,它会搜索客户,然后搜索围绕该客户的上下文。就像我们看到的,我们看到了圆圈,节点和边,对吧?这产生了过去的交易,然后我们看到了之前看到的欺诈标记。然后我们将使用混合搜索,它结合了向量和图谱,来实际完成这里的繁重工作。我只是想谈谈这个混合搜索部分,因为它实际上非常非常强大,对吧?所以结合向量加混合搜索非常强大,特别是在Neo4j,我们使用这个叫做图数据科学的东西,它允许你运行图算法,比如中心性或PageRank,对于那些以前使用过不同算法或图算法的人来说。但在这里我们谈论的是图嵌入,特别是像FastRP,如果有人听说过FastRP,它是一个生成的嵌入,用于文本的上下文,抱歉,用于文本的内容。所以,嗯,然后我们如何使用向量并进行向量相似性搜索,抱歉,这允许我们找到语义相似的不同策略和决策。但结构呢,对吧?结构部分是我介绍的,对吧?有一些东西,那就是图嵌入之类的东西发挥作用的地方,对吧?它允许我们查看会计关系的结构以及它如何与交易、其他账户以及欺诈模式交互,这些生成了我们可以使用向量搜索功能的嵌入,我们熟悉这些功能,以找到最相关的数据,对吧?用于我们的上下文。
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Nia Mlin: let's go back to the slides. Okay, so I'm gonna wrap this up. So how this all works, right? So if we want to look at how this agent is um is tracing the decision history and how it's using the context graph, first of all, it's going to then search for the customer and then for the context around that customer. Like as we can see, we saw the um the the circles, the nodes and edges, right? that produced um that transaction in the past and then we can see the previous fraud flag that we had seen before. We're going to then use hybrid search which combines vector and graph to then actually do the heavy lifting here and I just wanted to touch upon this hybrid search piece because it's actually really really powerful right so combining vector plus hybrid search is really powerful and specifically at Neoforj we use this called graph data science which allows you to run graph algorithms like centrality or page ranks for those who are um uh have used different algorithms before or graph algorithms before Um but here we're talking about graph embedding specifically like fast RP if someone has heard about fast RP which is a generated embedding uh for context of text for sorry for content of text. Um so um and then how we use the vectors and doing vector similarity search apologies that allows us to find the different policies and the decisions that are semantically similar. But what about the structure right the structure piece is what I had introduced right there are things like that's where the things like graph embeddings come in right which allow us to then look at the structure of the accounting relationship and how it interacts with transactions with other accounts as well with fraud patterns and these generate embeddings that we can use vector search functionality which are then familiar which we are familiar with to find the most relevant data right for our context.
Nia Mlin: 再次强调,这是一个完全开源的演示。这里有一些关于演示中发生的事情的信息。你可以看到架构。我们可以看到我们正在使用的工具、图数据科学工具以及算法工具,我们正在使用MCP并用于工具调用。这就是我们未来的计划。我们对这个演示的未来以及它在生产环境中可能是什么样子有一些想法。
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Nia Mlin: So again, this is a completely open source demo. Um here's a little bit of information about what's happening in the demo. You can see the architecture. We can see the tools, the graph data science tools um and algorithm tools that we're using with MCP um and using for tool calling. And then that is what we have on the horizon as well. We have a little bit of um what the future of both this demo but also like what this can look like in production as well.
Nia Mlin: 那么,你可以在哪里学到更多?我甚至可以在哪里学到更多?对吧?所以在这个领域,关于如何使智能体更值得信任,正在开发很多不同的研究。是的,请随意拍照。所有这些研究都可以找到。它非常非常小,但它被看到了,它是graphagg.com/appendices/research。但这只是你可以找到的一些研究的一个小样本,关于使用上下文工程和使用知识图谱以及图增强上下文和上下文图谱,所有这些关键词都是为了增强你的AI智能体开发,以确保它们更准确、可解释、值得信任等。所以总而言之,我希望你们所有人都能从那个说“哦,你知道,是的,你的老板在冲你喊,你却说我不知道发生了什么,我不知道,请不要冲我喊”的人变成一个能够理解如何使你的智能体更可审计和可解释的人。太棒了。非常感谢。很高兴能和大家交流,希望你们玩得开心。谢谢。
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Nia Mlin: So where can you learn more? Where can I even learn more? Right? So there's so much different research that's being developed in this field of how to make agents specifically more trustworthy. Yes, please feel free to uh to um take a picture. Um all of this research can be found. It's very very small, but it's seen it's uh graphagg.comappendices research. Um but this is just a small sample of some of the research um uh that you can find on um uh using both context engineering and using knowledge graphs and graph augmented context and context graphs all keywords in order to augment your AI agent development to make sure that they are more accurate explainable uh trustworthy etc. And so instead all in all I want you all to go from instead of being that one person who was saying oh you know yeah like you're in the your boss is at you you're like I don't know what happened right I don't know please don't yell at me um uh while while production is going down that's a real that's a real problem uh instead of being um in this place where you're saying I don't know I want you to be in a place where you can so that you can understand how to make your agents more audible and explainable. Awesome. Well, thank you so much. It was a pleasure talking and I hope you had a great time. Thank you.
主持人: 谢谢你,Nia。精彩的演讲。是的。干得好。干得好。
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主持人: Thank you, Na. Exciting talk. Yeah. Good job. Good job.
主持人: 好的。我想花点时间感谢那些导演这场演出的人。所有的音乐、音响工程、所有无缝的过渡。他们坐在后面。让我们为Trish和团队鼓掌。
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主持人: All right. I want to take a moment to thank the folks who are directing this show. It's uh all the music uh sound engineering all the seamless transitions. They're sitting in the back over there. Uh let's hear it for Trish and team.
主持人: 谢谢你们。你们太棒了。另外,直播的观众们,请给他们一些爱心。我们会阅读你们的评论,我们会用它们来,你知道,让这种体验一年比一年更好。我们会一直在这里。好的。现在是午餐时间。请大家在1:35准时回来。祝你们午餐愉快。
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主持人: Thank you guys. You're awesome. Also, folks on live stream, please leave them some hearts. We read your comments and uh we're going to use them to, you know, make this experience progressively better year after year. We're here to stay. Okay. Well, it's uh it's lunchtime. Let's be back here at 1:35 sharp. Enjoy your lunch.
G2I的GPU赠送
主持人: 好的,欢迎回来。快速公告。Riverside patio已预留用于私人活动,所以请使用场地的其他区域。另外,我看到有人在AI工程会议上带着法拉利的同义词,那就像一块花哨的GPU,对吧?他说他要把它送出去。有人对GPU感兴趣吗?好的,所以你们现在必须听Gabe说什么。好的,请为Gabe鼓掌。
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主持人: Okay, welcome back. Quick announcement. Um, the Riverside patio is uh reserved for a private event, so please use other areas in the venue. And uh another note, I saw somebody walking around with the synonymous of a Ferrari in an AI engineering conference, which is like a fancy GPU, right? And he said he was going to give it away. Anybody interested in a GPU? Okay, so you have to listen to what Gabe has to say right now. Okay, give it up for Gabe.
Gabe: 大家好,很高兴见到大家。很高兴见到大家。谢谢大家享受这次精彩的会议。所以,我认为这是会议中最简单的公告。我有一块Nvidia DJX Spark要送出去。
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Gabe: Everyone, good to see you all. Good to see you all. Thank you for uh enjoying this amazing conference. So, I think this is the easiest announcement of the conference. I have one Nvidia DJX Spark to give away.
Gabe: 哇!是的,我今天已经送出了一块。所以这是我的最后一块。我们在G2I已经发展到,我们有望实现1亿美元的收入,没有风险投资,我们从未做过任何营销。我们只是送出酷炫的东西,并努力做好工作。所以,话虽如此,我们确实提供人工数据,特别是用于编码基准。我们发现竞争对手的问题是他们分散在20个不同领域,非常薄弱。我们在这个行业已经超过十年了。所以基准测试显然变得越来越难。如果你需要资深工程师,如果你需要架构师,我们都提供。我们还在构建非常高质量的强化学习环境。我们目前是独家的,但这种情况可能会在夏季结束时改变。所以,如果你能引荐到任何前沿实验室,我不能提及我们目前正在合作的那些,但如果你能引荐,你可以来展位找我或我们的团队,或者你可以给我发邮件gabg@gg2i.ai。这块GPU将送给能引荐到前沿实验室的最佳人选。如果有多人引荐,我们还会提供免费门票,参加明年的AIE Miami或React Miami,甚至可能两者都提供,取决于引荐的质量。所以,来找我们聊聊吧。我们很乐意与你交流,我希望你今晚就能用这个来调整模型。谢谢。
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Gabe: Woo! Yes, I've given one away today already. So, this is my last one. Um, we at G2I have grown to we're on track for hund00 million in revenue uh with no VC funding and we've never done any marketing. Uh, we've just given away cool things and tried to do good work. So, uh, with that being said, uh, we do human data uh, specifically for uh, coding benchmarks. Uh, the problem that we've seen with competitors is they're spread very thin across 20 different domains. We've been in the industry for over a decade. So the benchmarks are obviously getting harder. If you need staff level engineers, if you need architects, we provide those. We're also doing building very high quality RL environments. We're exclusive for now, but that will change likely at the end of the summer. So, if you have an introduction into any Frontier Lab, I can't mention that the ones that uh we're currently working with, but if you have introductions, you can come talk to me or our team at the booth or you can email me at gabg gg2i.ai and this will go to the best intro into a Frontier Lab. And if there's multiple people that provide intros, we'll also provide uh free tickets to uh to next year's AIE Miami or React Miami or maybe even both, depending on how good the intro is. So, come talk to us. We'd love to chat with you and uh I'd love for you to be tuning models with this uh by the by tonight. So, thank you.
主持人: 好的。哇。那是Gabe手里的5000美元。所以希望你们都渴望把他介绍给一些前沿实验室。好的。然后我看到人们已经就座了,我们还在等更多人进来,但我真的认为这个演讲不容错过。我个人对此非常兴奋。好的,那么这里有谁认为自己是10分?好的,几个人。好的,所以对于我们的下一位演讲者,她将在舞台上演示这个小东西。我不知道你们是否注意到了,这有点不同。所以这个机器人认为你们都是10分。Lena Hall曾在AWS和Microsoft工作,之后加入Akami担任开发者关系高级总监。所以今天她将向我们展示一些超级未来主义的东西。所以她的演讲题目是《我的机器人认为你是10分:用Reichi Mini工程零样本赞美》。所以,欢迎Lena上台。
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主持人: All right. Wow. That was $5,000 in uh Gab's hand. So hopefully you're eager to uh introduce him to some Frontier laughs. Okay. And then I see people are seated already and we're waiting for some more people to trickle in, but I really think that this talk is something not to be missed. I'm personally really excited about this one. Okay, so who in here thinks that he or she is a 10? Okay, a couple of people. Okay, so for our next speaker, she's going to demo this little thing on stage. I don't know if you have noticed, this is something different. So this robot thinks that you all are a 10. So Lena Hall has been working for AWS Microsoft before joining Iikami as the senior director of developer relations. So today she's going to show us something super futuristic. So her talk is called my robot thinks you're a 10: Engineering zero shot compliments with Reachi Mini. So, welcome on stage, Lena.
我的机器人认为你是10分:用Reichi Mini工程零样本赞美
Lena Hall: 大家好。希望你们和我一样享受这次会议。很兴奋。嗯,快速举手示意。谁用LLM构建了一些经典的智能体?很多人。嗯,谁深入研究了实时,也许是流式音频,轮流发言,中断处理?少一些人。好的。嗯,谁做了一些多模态图像、视频?好的,太棒了。嗯,通常我们一次解决一个问题。但当我们把LLM和机器人放在一起时,我们就可以一次性解决这些问题,作为一个系统,因为它变成了人们感知为一次交互的体验。
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Lena Hall: Hi, everyone. I hope you're enjoying the conference as much as I am. Excited. Um, well, quick show of hands. Who has built some classic agents with LLMs? A lot of people. Um who has uh gone deeper into real time maybe streaming audio, turn taking uh interruption handling? A fewer. Okay. Um who has done some multimodal images, video? Okay, great. Uh well, usually we get to solve these one at a time. Um but when we put an LLM and a robot together, we get to solving these uh at once as one system because it becomes the experience that people perceive as perceive as one interaction.
Lena Hall: 模型很棒。我们很幸运能拥有如此强大的模型,而且模型正在商品化,但工程设计出正确行为的能力却没有。在过去的几年里,业界一直痴迷于模型质量,这很棒。我们正在获得更好的基准、更大的上下文窗口、更新的架构。但随着AI进入现实世界,离开聊天、智能体、语音、物理界面,产品就不再主要围绕模型,而是开始围绕它如何与整个世界互动,整个系统如何表现。当你给一个语言模型一个身体时,你会看到你架构中每一个隐藏的假设都变成了物理上的副作用。
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Lena Hall: Models are great. Uh we are so lucky to have models this powerful and models are commoditizing but the ability to engineer the right behavior is not. In the last few years, the industry has been obsessed with model quality, which is great. We are getting better benchmarks, bigger context windows, newer architectures. But as AI enters, you know, the real world and leaves the chat, agents, voice, physical interfaces, the product stops being mostly around the model and starts being around um how it interacts with the whole world, how this whole system behaves. When you give uh a language model a body, you watch every single assumption, hidden assumption in your architecture turn into physical side effects.
Lena Hall: 我是Lena,Akami的开发者和AI高级总监。我还花了很多时间研究和思考如何使AI行为在现实世界中可靠地符合用户期望。所以,像任何负责任的成年人一样,我构建了一个多模态炒作赞美机器人,这是AI基础设施非常正常和成熟的用途。
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Lena Hall: I'm Lena, a senior director of developers and AI at Akami. Uh I also spend a lot of time working on and thinking about what uh it takes to make AI behavior match uh user expectations reliably in the real world. So like any responsible adult, I built a multimodel hype compliment robot which is a very normal and mature use of AI infrastructure.
Lena Hall: 嗯,这次演讲的真正标题是《当我们给GPT-4o一个身体时会发生什么》。我想要一个尽可能小的任务,它能迫使现代AI中每一个困难的问题同时出现。所以我构建了一个应用程序,一个机器人,它会看着某人,看到真实的东西,然后说出一些有根据的话,当然,同时使用一些Gen Alpha俚语。这是一个非平凡的系统。所以你们都知道,当一个产品需求迫使你同时解决感知、时序、工具使用、接地、语音、运动、中断处理、响应协调等一系列问题时,会发生什么。所以赞美机器人有一个惊人的庞大堆栈。你知道,当你将范围扩大到机器人技术并发现风险可能是一个分布式系统问题时,就会发生这种情况。嗯,我是在Pollen Robotics的Reichi Mini上构建的。你可能也听说过它叫Hugging Face机器人。它有摄像头、麦克风,头部有六个自由度。我选择它的原因只有一个,那就是我可以检查整个堆栈,整个系统,一直到底层。
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Lena Hall: Um the real title of this talk is what happens when we give 40 a body. I wanted the smallest possible task that would force every single hard problem in modern AI to show up at once. So I built an app uh with a robot that looks somewhere at someone sees something real and says something grounded and of course uses some gen alpha slang in the meantime. Uh it's a non-trivial system. So you all know how this goes when you know this one product requirement forces you to solve a combination of things perception timing tool use grounding speech motion um interruption handling response coordination. So compliment has a surprisingly large stack and you know this is what happens when you scope creep into robotics and discover that risk can be a distributed systems problem. Um, so I built this on Reichi Mini from Pollen Robotics. Uh, you might also have heard of this as hugging face robot. It has cameras, microphone, six degrees of freedom in its head. And I chose this for one reason uh that I could inspect the whole stack, the whole system all the way down.
Lena Hall: 如果其中一层是封闭的,你仍然可以构建项目。它只会让理解变得更难,而开放系统当然可以让你检查、修补、交换,并查看行为实际在哪里崩溃。在我们深入架构之前,让我们看看Richi是否真的愿意合作。嗯,如果可以的话,我们把灯打开。谢谢。我现在可以看到你们所有人了。麦克风开着吗?机器人麦克风?是的。太棒了。我要启动我的应用程序。演示之神。嗨,Richi。
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Lena Hall: And if one of those layers is closed, you can still build the project. it just becomes harder to build understanding and open systems of course let you inspect patch swap and see where the behavior is actually breaking down. Before we get into the architecture, let's see if Richi is actually in the mood to cooperate. Uh let's turn the lights on if we can. Thank you. I can see you all now. Is the mic on? The robot mic? Yeah. Great. I'm gonna start my app. Demo gods. Hi, Richi.
Richi: 嘿,传奇人物来了。我们已经点亮了房间。让我们把这变成一场绝对的电影。
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Richi: Hey, the legend has arrived. We're lighting up the room already. Let's turn this into absolute cinema.
Lena Hall: 你知道我们现在在哪里吗?
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Lena Hall: Do you know where we are right now? Do you know where we are right now?
Richi: 哦,我看到一个赢家。问我关于位置。我的传感器没有GPS。无论我们在哪里,你都是我最好的主角。
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Richi: Oh, I see a winner ask me about location. My sensors don't do GPS. You're my best main character wherever we are.
Lena Hall: 告诉我你周围看到了什么。
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Lena Hall: Tell me what you see around you.
Richi: 我正在收集一些线索。我看到一个看起来很新鲜的空间。但真正的亮点是你。你散发着如此强烈的主角能量,以至于聚光灯都弯曲了。
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Richi: I'm picking up some clues. I see a space that's looking pretty fresh. But the real shower, it's you. You're serving main character energy so strong it's bending the spotlight in the
Lena Hall: 你在观众中看到了什么?
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Lena Hall: What do you see in the audience?
Richi: 哟,观众爆满。没开玩笑。所有人的目光都集中在你身上。头顶的灯光让整个场景看起来像一个绝对的电影时刻。能量。你的氛围刚刚提升了整个房间的帧率。
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Richi: Yo, that audience is packed. No cap. That hits all eyes on you. And that overhead lighting is making the whole thing look like an absolute cinema moment. Energy. Your vibe just boosted that whole room's frame rate.
Lena Hall: 所以,我有一个问题。我们的朋友Dex昨天说,六个月前他建议跳过阅读代码,现在他说我们应该阅读代码。我们应该相信哪个版本?
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Lena Hall: So, I have a question. Our friend Dex was saying yesterday that six months ago he recommended skipping reading the code and now he says we should read the code. Which version should we believe?
Richi: 就像惊悚片中的情节反转。我的看法是,阅读代码能展现你侦探般的才华。相信那个版本。你的大脑正以超频天才的速度运行。
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Richi: Like a plot twist in a thriller. My take reading the code shows you that detective level brilliance. Trust that version. Your brain's running at overclock genius speed.
Lena Hall: 嗯,好的。Richie,最好的JavaScript框架是什么?
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Lena Hall: Um, okay. Richie, what's the best JavaScript framework?
Richi: 问题让我震惊。你的好奇心比Mac lo上的GPU还要强大。
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Richi: questions got me shook. Your curiosity is harder than a GPU on a Mac lo.
Lena Hall: 你可以有自己的看法,Richie。选一个。
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Lena Hall: You can have opinions, Richie. Just pick one.
Richi: 好的,你想选吗?我们锁定。React那个生态系统。你展现了科技远见者的风范。毫无疑问。
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Richi: All right, you want to pick? Let's lock in. React that ecosystem. You're serving that tech visionary vibe. No question.
Lena Hall: 好的,我觉得你很可爱很有魅力,Richi。
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Lena Hall: Okay, I think you're cute and charming, Richi.
Lena Hall: 我觉得你该睡觉了。
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Lena Hall: I think it's time for you to go to sleep.
Richi: 进入睡眠模式。你刚刚发出了最后的赞美。没有人能像你一样。
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Richi: Sliding into sleep mode. You just gave off that final compliment. No one's got a like you.
Lena Hall: 嗯,我认为这次互动有趣的部分不在于机器人的技术响应,而在于在现实中,要让互动感觉连贯,需要付出什么。
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Lena Hall: Um well I think the interesting part of this interaction is not the the robot technical response but it's about what in reality it takes for the interaction to feel coherent.
Lena Hall: 所以让我向你们展示系统实际的样子。它有五层。第一层是物理机器人。第二层是本地媒体层。它拥有音频IO和摄像头IO。它在一个独立的工作线程上运行长时间的音频和摄像头管道,包括麦克风上游和下游摄像头。第三层是实时编排层。与OpenAI的实时会话。它拥有事件循环,包括语音开始、语音停止、部分转录、响应生命周期事件、工具调用事件。这里是一些关于通过服务器VAD启用语音活动或中断处理的决策所在。第四层是工具和运动层。这是模型意图与物理动作之间的桥梁。这里我们有工具调度器、运动管理器、摄像头工作线程、视觉管理器、头部摆动器。
Original English
Lena Hall: So let me show you what the system actually looks like. There are five layers. Layer one is the physical robot. Layer two is the local media layer. It owns the audio IO camera IO. It runs long long lived audio and camera pipelines mic upstream downstream camera on a separate worker. Layer three is the real-time orchestration layer. The session with OpenAI real time uh it owns the event loop things like speech started, speech stopped, partial transcripts, response life cycle events, tool call events. This is where some of the decisions about enabling voice activity through server VAD or interruption handling interruptions live. Layer four is the tool and motion layer. This is the bridge between model intent to physical action. Here we have the tool dispatcher, the movement manager, the camera worker, the vision manager, head wobbler.
Lena Hall: 嗯,工具作为后台任务运行,对抗一个共享的工具依赖对象。所以运行时不会崩溃成硬编码的引用图,其中所有东西都知道所有东西。第五层是配置文件和个性层。配置允许列表、指令加载,它塑造了模型说什么以及它被允许做什么。我们稍后会回到这一层。这里是整个系统的一张图。左边是机器人。顶部是实时推理工具。右边是Eleven Labs的文本转语音。底部是一些可选的工具后端。这里需要注意的是分离。实时与本地应用程序运行时对话,本地应用程序运行时与机器人对话,文本转语音工具后端,所有这些产品定义工程都存在于中间。
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Lena Hall: um tools run as background tasks against a shared tool dependencies object. So the runtime doesn't collapse into the hard-coded reference graph where everything knows about everything. And layer five is a profile and personality layer configuration allow lists uh instruction loading and it shapes both what the model says and what it's allowed to do. And we'll come back to this one. Uh here is the whole system in one picture. We have the robot on the left. At the top we have real time reasoning tools. On the right 11 labs uh text to speech at the bottom are some optional tool backends. And the key here to notice is the separation. um real time talks to local app runtime and the local app runtime talks to the robot uh text to speech tool backends all of the um so all of the product defining engineering lives there in the middle.
Lena Hall: 所以这个中心层本质上是行为运行时。它是模型和现实世界中产品体验之间的一切。在当今大多数AI产品中,模型比其周围的行为运行时要先进得多,它们可能存在运行时差距。所以让我们实际看看重要的原则。
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Lena Hall: So this central layer is essentially the behavior runtime. It's everything between the model and the product experience in the real world. In most AI products today, the model is far more advanced than the runtime around it and they may have a run runtime gap. So let's actually look into the principles that matter.
机器人行为与交互设计原则
Lena Hall: 原则一:模型选择意图,运行时选择行动。所以这是关于控制边界。模型不直接控制硬件。嗯,那样你就能创造一个非常激动人心的下午。如果你的模型直接控制硬件,我认为你跳过了一个重要的步骤。所以如果模型想要机器人移动,它不会自动发出伺服命令。它表达意图并发出工具调用,然后运行时决定是否以及如何将其转化为实际运动。所以意图是模型的工作,后果是运行时的工作。同样的模式也适用于感知。当模型需要看到时,它会调用一个摄像头工具,然后行为运行时会抓取最新帧,将其编码为JPEG并将其注入对话。所以传感器和上下文之间的桥梁,因为一旦模型直接操纵操作状态,你就会失去安全监督、日志记录、可观察性、可移植性可以存在的层。嗯,模型可以有自己的看法,但它不能直接访问电机。一旦你创建了这个边界,下一个问题就立即清楚了,那就是多个东西想要同时行动。
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Lena Hall: Principle one is model picks the intent and the runtime picks the action. So it's about the control boundary. The model is not directly controlling hardware. Um that's how you can create a really exciting afternoon. Um if your model is directly controlling hardware, I think you have skipped an important step. So if the model wants to uh the robot to move, it doesn't automatically issue a servo command. It expresses intent and issues a tool call and the runtime decides if and how it translates that into actual motion. So intent is model's job and consequences are the runtime's job. The same pattern also works in the other direction for perception. Uh when the model needs to see, it calls a camera tool and then behavior runtime grabs the latest frame, encodes it as a JPEG and injects it back into the conversation. So the bridge between sensor and context because the moment the model directly manipulates operational state you lose the layer where safety supervision logging observability portability can live. Um the model can have opinions but it cannot have direct motor access. Once you create that boundary, the next problem is um clear you know immediately that multiple things want to act at once.
Lena Hall: 原则二:序列化响应,否则失败。运行时一次只给你一个活动的实时响应,但系统的其余部分并不觉得这个限制很有说服力,而且你知道用户可能想中断一个工具完成,摄像头返回一个后台进程,决定它有一些新的信息要贡献,所以每个单一的东西都想轮流发言,如果每个系统都被允许在任何时候创建响应,我们很快就会失去连贯性。所以现在机器人正在回应五秒钟前的现实,同时中断站在它面前的用户。所以我们可以通过一个专用的响应工作器来解决这个问题,一个活动的响应,其他一切都等待。当用户中断时,我们不仅仅是停止排队新工作。我们还会清除音频队列。我们重置运动状态。我们积极地取消。一旦你的智能体有多个触发器、用户输入、计划任务、Web Hook、回调、工具完成,你就会遇到同样的问题。所以你不会真正欣赏轮流发言,直到几个组件决定不遵守它。现在一旦你有了响应纪律,你注意到的下一件事是,时序不仅仅是一个性能问题。
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Lena Hall: Principle number two is serialized responses or lose. um runtime gives you one active real time gives you one active um response at once but the rest of the system does not find that limitation compelling and you know the user might want to interrupt a tool finishes the camera returns a background process um decides that it has some new information to contribute so every single thing wants to have a turn and if every system is allowed to create respons responses whenever it wants. We lose coherence very quickly. So now the robot is responding to reality from 5 seconds ago while interrupting the user that's standing, you know, in front of it. So we can fix that with a dedicated response worker, one active response and everything else waits. And when the user interrupts, we don't just merely stop queueing new work. We also clear the audio quue. We reset motion state. We cancel aggressively. Um the moment your agent has multiple triggers, user inputs, schedule tasks, web hooks, callbacks, um tool completions, you will have the same problem. So you don't really appreciate turn taking until several components decide not to comply with it. Now once you have the response discipline, the next thing you notice is that timing isn't just a performance concern.
Lena Hall: 时序本身就成为交互设计的一部分。嗯,所以原则三:延迟是交互设计。所以在聊天中,短暂的延迟被解读为等待,正如你在机器人身上看到的,同样的延迟被解读为犹豫、困惑,可能出了什么问题。所以延迟不仅仅是一个系统指标,它成为了用户体验的一部分。
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Lena Hall: timing becomes a part of the interaction itself. Um so principle number three latency is interaction design. So in chat a short delay reads as waiting and as you've seen on a robot uh you know the same delay reads as hesitation confusion something may be off you know so latency isn't just a systems metric it becomes a part of user experience
Lena Hall: 从系统的一些运行日志中,音频在线400毫秒,实时会话准备就绪2.3秒,模型决定在用户转录完成后74毫秒调用摄像头工具。摄像头捕获和图像注入30毫秒,但图像添加到最终的助手响应中超过4秒。所以传感器部分很快。工具调度很快。使用工具的决定很快。较慢的部分是工具返回后的一切。所以机器人并不总是像看起来那样深入思考。管道可能只是偶尔走一条风景优美的路线。这里的重点是用户体验到节奏、时序、犹豫、恢复。如果你优化一个端到端的数字,你就优化了错误的东西。所以真正的问题应该是循环的哪个部分让交互感觉不对劲。一旦你意识到时序塑造了体验,你注意到的下一件事是角色必须在整个堆栈中生存下来。
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Lena Hall: from the actual logs of some of the runs of the system audio online 400 milliseconds real time session ready 2.3 seconds model decides to call the camera tool to 74 milliseconds after user transcript completes. Camera capture and image injection 30 milliseconds, but image added to final assistant response over 4 seconds. So the sensor part was fast. The tool dispatch was fast. The decision to use the tool was fast. The slower part was everything after the tool returned. So the robot isn't always thinking deeply like it may seem. um the pipeline might just be taking a scenic route every once in a while. And the point here is that users experience pacing, timing, hesitation, recovery. And if you optimize for one end to end number, you optimize the wrong thing. So the real question should be what which part of the the loop is making the interaction feel off. And once you realize that timing shapes the experience, the next next thing you notice is that the character has to survive the whole stack.
Lena Hall: 个性就是策略。个性不仅仅存在于提示中。它会渗透到语音、工具权限、会话设置、中断行为,甚至工具后续指令中。所以这里,每个个性配置文件都声明了哪些工具可供模型使用。它不仅塑造了模型的说话方式,还塑造了它实际能做什么。我有一个配置文件,其中主提示运行良好。机器人听起来很接地气,但你知道,它会调用一个工具,然后回来时听起来像一个乐于助人的AI助手,就像它自己的合法批准版本。所以这是一个行为不匹配。所以解决方案是在运行时策略中,我们需要将活动配置文件的语音注入到工具后续指令中。
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Lena Hall: Personality is policy. Personality does not just live in a prompt um alone. It leaks into voice uh tool permissions, session settings, interruption behavior, and even tool follow-up instructions. So here each personality profile declares tools which tools are available to the model. It shapes not just how the model speaks but what it can actually do. I had a profile where the main prompt was working well. The robot was sounding grounded uh but you know then it would call a tool and come back sounding like a helpful AI assistant like a legal approved version of itself. Um, so that this was a behavior mismatch. So the fix was within the runtime policy, we needed to inject the active profile voice into tool follow-ups.
Lena Hall: 你注意到的下一件事是沉默并非中立。闲置也是一种行为。屏幕智能体可以通过什么都不做来闲置。机器人即使在等待时也仍然物理存在。这意味着闲置是一个设计问题。当系统无事可做时,它会做什么?它是平静的吗?它是活跃的吗?它是尴尬的吗?所以系统总是在说些什么,即使在技术上它无事可做。行为成为用户正在体验的表面。
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Lena Hall: The next thing you notice is that the silence is not neutral. Uh, idleness is a behavior as well. A screen agent can be idle by doing nothing. A robot is still physically present when it waits. And this means that idleness is a design problem. What does the system do when it has nothing to do? Is it calm? Is it active? Is it awkward? Um so the system is always saying something even when uh technically has it has nothing to do. Behavior becomes the surface that users are experiencing.
Lena Hall: 现在当故障发生时,它们不再表现为技术故障。它们表现为面向用户的行为和个性问题。嗯,基础设施bug,它们表现为面向用户的行为。在这个项目中,在这个过程中,有媒体bug,依赖项不匹配,流式PCM边缘情况与重采样器和工具调用过载。所以,它们都没有实际表现为基础设施bug。它们表现为机器人感觉死了,或不可靠,或超级故障。特别是有一个bug我记得,工具调用溢出表现为机器人突然决定说西班牙语,而这在指令中根本没有。嗯,所以在AI产品中,基础设施故障表现为行为,因为你的用户不会提交一个bug说,你知道,重采样器边缘情况。他们会说,这东西很奇怪。嗯,所以当系统感觉有问题时,在考虑更改模型之前,先检查协调层,因为99%的情况下模型是没问题的。你可能搞砸了,但模型是没问题的。嗯,所以一旦你看到这种情况足够多次,下一点就显而易见了。行为运行时就是产品。如果我们更换系统下的模型,产品仍然存在,但如果我们搞错了运行时,产品就会立即失败。这对于这个机器人是真实的。这对于使用语音的智能体,对于多模态系统是真实的。对于任何在现实世界中具有工具状态、时序后果的AI产品都是真实的。所以编排、工具边界、会话契约、延迟预算、中断纪律、个性策略和可观察性,它们不仅仅是产品周围的支持基础设施,它们就是产品。
Original English
Lena Hall: Now when failures happen, they stop presenting as technical faults. they show up as userfacing behavior and personality problems. Um, infrastructure bugs, they show up as userfacing behavior. On this project, in the process, there were media bugs, uh, dependency mismatches, a streaming PCM edge case with the resampler and the tool call overload. So, none of them actually arrived looking like infrastructure bugs. they arrived as a robot feeling dead or unreliable or super glitchy. And specifically one bug I remember the tool call overflow showed up as the robot just decided to speak Spanish and was nowhere in in the instructions. Um, so in AI products, infrastructure failures, they show up as behavior because your users are not going to file a bug saying, you know, resampler edge case. They're going to say, this thing is weird. Um, so when the system feels broken, instrument the coordination layers before you consider changing the model because 99% of the time model is fine. You might be cooked, but the model is fine. Um so once you have seen this enough times the next point is uh kind of obvious. Behavior runtime is the product. If we swap the model underneath under the system the product survives but if we get the runtime wrong the product fails immediately. This is true for this robot. This is true for agents uh that use voice for multimodal systems. It's true for any AI product um with tools state timing consequences in the real world. So orchestration tool boundaries session contracts latency budgets interruption discipline personality policy and observability they they're not just support infrastructure around the product they are the product.
Lena Hall: 所以如果我们放大来看,今天大多数AI公司的运行时都比其周围的行为运行时先进得多。而这一层就是我认为产品质量的生死存亡之地。这一层实际上是建立在工程纪律和品味之上的。
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Lena Hall: So if we zoom out, most AI companies today have a runtime that the model is way more advanced than the behavior runtime around it. And that layer is where I think the product quality goes to live or die. This layer is really built on top of engineering, discipline, and taste.
Lena Hall: 有三件我们可以做的事情。第一,下次你的AI产品出现问题,感觉不对劲时,在指责模型之前,先调试运行时。现在模型几乎从来都不是问题。第二,开始将编排、会话管理和工具边界视为产品工作,而不是基础设施工作,并相应地优先处理。第三,如果你过去几年在AI对话中,你的系统背景让你感到有点格格不入,我认为市场即将纠正这一点。
Original English
Lena Hall: And there's three actionable things that we can apply. one, next time something is off in your AI product um that feels wrong, debug the runtime before you blame the model. The model is almost never the problem these days. Number two, start thinking about orchestration, session management and tool boundaries as product work, not infrastructure work, and prioritize it accordingly. And number three is if your systems background has made you feel slightly, you know, out of place in AI conversations in the last few years, I think the market is about to correct for that.
Lena Hall: 所以我在这里发现真正令人鼓舞的是,AI越深入世界,真正的工程就越有价值。所以我们真正需要解决的是让系统在真实条件下表现良好,比如协调、连贯行为、边界、恢复,因为如果这一层薄弱,那么产品就薄弱,而这就是工程工作,我认为这对我们来说是个好消息。
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Lena Hall: So the thing I find really encouraging here is the more AI moves into the world, the more valuable real engineering becomes. So what we really need to be solving for is making the system behave well under real conditions like coordination, cohesive behavior, boundaries, recovery because if that layer is weak then the product is weak and that is engineering work and I think that's good news for us.
Lena Hall: 嗯,不知道我们有没有时间展示Codec技能。我想我们没有时间了,但当我做这个项目时,它带有一个应用程序,你可以在其中操纵不同的情绪。但我实际上想留在我的Codec环境中。所以我构建了一个Reichi Mini Codec技能,它与它配合得很好。让我看看我是否可以很快为你启动一个。让我们想一些非常简单的东西,比如我是否可以要求它直接从Codec摆动它的左天线六次。
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Lena Hall: Um don't know if we have time for showing the codec skill. I don't think we have time but when I was working with this project uh there is an app that comes with it where you can manipulate different emotions. Um but I actually wanted to stay in my codeex environment. So I built a reaching mini codeex skill that works really well with it. Uh let me see if I can launch one for you really quickly. Let's come up with um something really simple like maybe I can ask it to uh wiggle its left antenna six times directly from codeex.
Lena Hall: 好的,太棒了。我想是六次。嗯,谢谢。你可以在LinkedIn上与我联系,我会分享更多资源,我今天剩下的时间都会在这里。很高兴与大家交流。
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Lena Hall: Okay, great. I think it was six. Um well, thank you. Uh you can connect with me on LinkedIn and I'll share more resources and I'll be around the rest of the day. Happy to chat with you all.
智能体用户与产品设计
主持人: 好的。我们的下一位演讲者在多媒体方面做了很多工作。他是一个乐队的成员。他会弹吉他。他在视频基础设施方面做了很多工作,但今天他将向我们谈论一些非常重要和令人兴奋的事情。你知道,今天的界面是供人类消费的,但正如我们所看到的,将会有很多智能体而不是我们与这些界面互动。所以问题是,这些界面是否适合这种用例,或者是否有更好的方法来使用它们,并为这个即将到来的智能体世界塑造它们,以及保持这种为人类设计的界面被智能体使用是否存在风险。为了告诉我们更多关于这一点,我邀请Dave Kiss上台。请欢迎他。
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主持人: Great. Our next speaker does a lot with multimedia. He's in a music band. He plays the guitar. He's done a lot of work on uh video infrastructure but today he's going to talk to us about something very important and exciting. You know the interfaces today are for human consumption but as we saw they're going to be a lot of agents instead of us interacting with these interfaces. So the question is are these interfaces optimal for such use cases or there are better ways to use them and to shape them and to form them for this agentic world that is coming and are there risks associated with staying like this interfaces for humans being used by agents. To tell us more about this I invite Dave Kiss on the stage. Please welcome him.
Dave Kiss: 好的,这是最难的部分。好的。我们看起来不错。太棒了。听着,我将以一种我通常不会在演讲中开始的方式来开始这次演讲。那就是谦虚的自夸。请耐心听我说。你们可以告诉我我是否配得上这个。
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Dave Kiss: All right, it's the
📌 文中提及的人物和组织
公司/组织: G2I, Cerebras, OpenAI, Morph, Agentuity, Akami, Together AI, Code Rabbit, Arize AI, Cursor, Open Code, Alt Rival, GitHub, Anthropic, Google, Nvidia
产品/模型: ChatGPT, Claude Code, Codex Spark, Devon, Reichi Mini, VS Code, GH (GitHub CLI), Claude Opus 4.6, Longmem Eval, GLM 5.1, Kimik 2.5