[Host]: In 2024, you made three predictions that have come perfectly true, like Trump would start a war with Iran. And you've made a series of new predictions.

[Professor Jiang]: Yes. And I'll explain each prediction one by one. Okay. So, first I predict that Trump will get a third term.

[Host]: But isn't this constitutionally illegal?

[Professor Jiang]: It's not. The president now has emergency war powers and so he could actually delay the election. My second prediction is Iran is under a forever war and the United States will institute a national draft. Meaning that if you're between 18 to 24 in America and you're male, you'll be automatically put into the draft system and they just pass a law that says that starting in December, you will be automatically registered, which means you're obliged to go and fight. Exactly. Next, the world will move towards an AI civilian state. So everything you do online is being recorded to figure out and how to control you. And then this is the most controversial prediction. This is pretty bad and I'll explain why. And also I will tell you why this war can only lead to World War III, why there's a very strong possibility that the American Empire will collapse and also I'll show you what the Russians will do and how the private bankers are controlling it.

[Host]: I'm not owned by anybody.

[Professor Jiang]: That's what you think. So, let's talk about that.

[Host]: This is super interesting to me. Professor Jiang, there's so much going on in the world at the moment that it's quite confusing for an ordinary person like me. And you've blown up across the internet because you've been able to demystify all of all of this craziness, but also because in 2024, you made three predictions that have come perfectly true. Some might say unfortunately.

[Professor Jiang]: Unfortunately, yes.

[Host]: What were those three predictions?

[Professor Jiang]: My first prediction was that Trump would win in November 2024. Second prediction is that he would start a war against Iran. And the third prediction is that the United States would lose this war and in losing this war, this would radically reshape the geopolitical landscape.

[Host]: How did you know that Trump would start a war with Iran?

[Professor Jiang]: The simple answer is this. The the United States having invaded Iran because it has no choice in the matter. If it were not to invade Iran, it would lose its empire. Its empire is based purely on the US dollar, the petro dollar, which is a Ponzi scheme. If it did not invade Iran, then people would choose not to trade with it anymore. People would choose to not buy US treasuries.

[Host]: Why? For the longest time, this system worked fine. But then in February 2022, Russia invaded Ukraine.

[Professor Jiang]: Yeah. Okay. That was not the issue. The issue was the American response. The American response was to sanction Russia and remove Russia from the swift global payment system. It also ordered the Europeans to freeze over $200 billion in Russian assets. And there's a problem because the very basis for having the US dollar as the global reserve currency is that it would remain politically neutral. It it the Americans guaranteed seamless politically neutral international exchange. So if this trend continues, right, if you don't do anything about Russia, Russia would take over Ukraine and Russia then would build an alliance with China and Iran. If you look at these three countries on the map, Russia, China and Iran, this is the entire Asian continent. And then what they can do is this. They can say, okay, the United States is a bully. They force us to play by the rules. They get very angry if we don't play by the rules. So, let's not play with the United States anymore. Let's just trade amongst ourselves. And then what they can do is they can build a Eurasian railway system connecting Russia, Iran, and China together. And then what this would do is negate American sea power because it's American ships that patrol and protect the oceans. And then what would happen is the world, Europe, Middle East, Africa, India, East Asia would look at the trading block and think to themselves, "Wow, these guys, the Russians, the Iranians, and Chinese, they use gold as their medium of exchange. Gold is valuable. The Americans on the other hand use US dollars as the medium of exchange which is not valuable. So am I better off with the American system with this new bricks system?

[Host]: What's bricks?

[Professor Jiang]: It's an acronym. It stands for Brazil, Russia, India, uh South Africa, China.

[Host]: So am I right in thinking because Iran, Russia and China were colluding, it threatened US dominance which is driven by the world using the dollar as the primary currency for trading.

[Professor Jiang]: That's correct. Okay.

[Host]: Okay. So they felt they needed to invade because then they can control more of the Middle East.

[Professor Jiang]: Right. So by attacking Iran, certain things happen. Okay. The first thing that happened is that China is now cut off from Middle East energy. China receives anywhere between 50 to 60% of its energy needs from the Middle East. Not just Iran, but also Qatar and Saudi Arabia. A lot of people say that China today it's reliant on renewables, solar, wind, and that's true to a certain extent. But remember that China it is an industrial powerhouse. So it needs energy from everywhere and everyone. So the fact that China is losing all this energy from the Middle East presents China with a long-term strategic vulnerability. That's the first thing that happens. Second thing that happens is that Europe is in a lot of trouble because remember because of the Russia's invasion of Ukraine, Russian energy was sanctioned and so Europe relied more on middle on the Middle East for its energy needs especially Qatar and now Europe has lost all of this oil. So you and then you have Japan and South Korea. These two powerful East Asian economies are also reliant on the Middle East for its uh energy. So another question is if you're not getting your energy from the Middle East, where can you get your energy from? And there's only two answers, either Russia or the United States. Russia is at war. And what's happening is the Ukrainian drones are attacking Russian oil refineries and export hubs. So the world in the short term have has no choice but to look to America for its energy needs. And what did Trump do recently? He took over he took over Venezuela which has the world's greatest oil reserves. He's threatening Canada. is threatening Greenland, Mexico, Colombia. If Trump controls the entire Western Hemisphere, the entire world has to beg Trump for energy and resources and it saves both the US dollar as well as the American empire.

[Host]: So, as part of your prediction in in 2024, I believe it was, you said that the US would lose this war, right? Why did you predict that the US will lose this war with Iran?

[Professor Jiang]: Because the the American society does not does not have the political will, does not have the manu manufacturing capacity, does not have the risk tolerance to fight this war in Iran. Basically, America wants to fight this war as cheaply, as easily, and as quickly as possible. Right? So Trump it Trump really thought that you know if I sent my airplanes to strike Tran and kill the Aatollah they would just surrender. That was like literally his plan going into this war. He paid no attention to the culture. He paid no attention to the history of the Iranian people. He had absolutely no respect for for the nation. And when you do that, when you disrespect your opponent, when you underestimate your opponent, when you yourself are not willing to commit to the fight, you're going to lose.

[Host]: So, is Iran's game just to draw this out as long as they possibly can? H how are they, you know, cuz he's taken out the leaders? And do you also think that Trump thought that just if I just bomb the leader, then everything will sort of regenerate itself and we'll be fine. What was the sort of fundamental misunderstanding? There's a lot of confusion as to how this war started. Even today, no one actually knows how this war started.

[Professor Jiang]: But I think that Trump, given his personality, he was convinced that if he killed the leadership of Iran, then they would have no choice but to surrender. And his proof of concept was of course on January 3rd of this year, Delta Force went into Venezuela, kidnapped Maduro and they completely surrendered. So in Trump's mind, he wanted to replay this the Venezuela scenario.

[Host]: And he didn't realize that Iran is fundamentally different from Venezuela.

[Professor Jiang]: The short answer is he is a reality TV star. He thinks in terms of optics. He doesn't think think in terms of like geopolitical strategy. The long answer is that the American military has become very corrupt and insular institution that is trying to generate as much congressional funding as possible in order to fund the military-industrial complex.

[Host]: Did he think that he was going to bomb Iran, the people would rise up, they would elect a new government and that would be that and then he could control Iran?

[Professor Jiang]: That's exactly what he thought. So, what I want to do now is go to the map.

[Host]: Okay.

[Professor Jiang]: All right. And show you what he got wrong. Okay. All right. So, this is a map of the Middle East. And the first thing to notice about this map is the topography.

[Host]: What does that mean?

[Professor Jiang]: How many mountains you have? So this is what's really interesting is that the topography between Iraq and Iran are completely different. And this is important because two in 2003 the Americans invaded Iraq and they won the war in about two weeks. And the reason why they won the war is the Americans practiced something called shock and all. The idea of shock and all is that it is a military strategy that believes that if you cut off the head of the snake, the snake will die. The decapation strike. And so what they did was they went into Baghdad, seized Baghdad and the regime collapsed and the war was over. And they were able to do this because of the topography. If you look at the map of Iraq, it's all flat. It's all desert. Meaning that you can just fly in your planes, cut off the head of a snake, and the war is over. There's absolutely no way you can defend against air strikes because you're entirely a desert. Now let's go to let's look at topography of I of Iran and Iran. It's all mountainous. In fact, you can make the argument that Iran is a fortress. Okay. And so the first thing is that Iran can choose to fight a war of attrition. What's a war of attrition?

[Host]: A war of attrition is a game of uncle. What's that?

[Professor Jiang]: Right. A game of uncle is where uh we don't have enough power to destroy each other. So what we try to do is we try to create pain points, leverage points to force you to submit to cry uncle, right? So because Iran is too large and that's 92 million people, it's impossible for the Americans and Israelis to destroy Iran. So what they're trying to do instead is bomb enough targets so that they recognize that resistance resistance is futile and surrender. Okay, that's the extent of the strategy. But again, the problem with this is that one, Iran is much too big. Number two is that it is a mountain fortress, which means that you can hide your weapons and your military inside mountains, right? Which allows you to conduct a guerilla warfare strategy against your opponent. And this is exactly what Iran is doing right now where their underground missile bases are hidden inside the mountains and then they're able to strike targets throughout the Middle East primarily American bases but also energy installations that are key to the American petro dollar system. And so it's a game of uncle where the Americans are trying to create as much damage as possible in the Iranian nation and Iran in response is trying to destroy as much of of the global economy as possible to force the world to pressure America to call the war off. So that's a situation we are facing right now. Second thing that Trump got got wrong is how vulnerable the global economy is. Because the Iranians control something called a shum moose. Okay. And as you can see on this map, it's a very very narrow piece of land. It's only about 33 kilometers across. You can actually swim across the straight of Humus. Okay. And why this is important is the GCC exports 20% of the world's energy.

[Host]: The G the G what?

[Professor Jiang]: The Gulf cooperative council. Okay. So the Gulf cooperative council are certain nations in the mil middle east that align politically. So they include Qatar, Saudi Arabia, uh the UAE, Oman, Iran, Kuwait. They they've been exporting energy but not just energy but also a lot of byproducts of of energy production including fertilizer to the world primarily East Asia and India. In return they've been getting um food back. So most people don't don't appreciate this but the GCC actually imports 80 to 90% of its food needs. And the reason why is that they become so rich these past few decades that the populations have um blown up and as a result they have to feed their population but they don't have agricultural resources. They also don't have water resources and so they have two major vulnerabilities which is food and water and they have a lot of desalination plants around the area and so

[Host]: it's a desalination plant.

[Professor Jiang]: Okay. So a desalination plant takes salt water from the seas and then through an electrochemical process turns it into portable water that people can use uh for drinking purposes and for agricultural purposes. Okay. Right. So as you can see the entire area it is extremely vulnerable to drone and missile attacks from Iran. So that's the second thing that Iran has done which Trump did not expect. He did not expect that the Iranians would close off the strait of Hammoose. And how the Iranians were able to close of the shoo was just by threatening to attack any ships that wanted to cross it. The reason why is that these ships depend on maritime insurance in order to operate. But if there's a risk, a very high risk of being destroyed, then um you will not need to get insurance.

[Host]: Okay. So, it's not that the Iranians have said to these ships you can't cross. It's just that the insurers refuse to allow these ships to cross because it's too dangerous. And Trump didn't you think they'd consider this before they started bombing Iran that Iran would have some leverage in shutting down such a critical piece of uh water for you know shipping fertilizer energy etc. You think that they would have known this right?

[Professor Jiang]: So, that's what a lot of people say, that Trump's stupid, that Trump is hotheaded, that he was misled by the Israelis. And there's good evidence to support this, but I want to show you something, okay? It's it's called the National Defense Strategy. All right? And so, this is a document that was published by the Department of War. And in it, it explains what the American strategy to maintain global dominance is. And in the introduction, what it says is that for too long, America has been bullied by the world world. America is a nation that protects the world. Yet Europe, East Asia takes advantage of American generosity. The Europeans don't pay for their defense and so they put all this money into welfare into their pension system. The Chinese have been giving America a bad trade deal. The Chinese steal American technology and then use it to make products that they sell back to the Americans. So the Americans have been have been getting a really bad deal for decades. And President Donald Trump, he's going to change that by doing four things, right? The National Defense Strategy calls for a fourpoint program to put America first. The first thing that um America is going to do is going to secure the Western Hemisphere. Why? Because the Western Hemisphere belongs to the United States.

[Host]: When you say the Western Hemisphere, what do you mean? What what region is that? Is that Canada as well? And

[Professor Jiang]: so if you look at the map, we can divide we can divide the map into the eastern hemisphere. Okay. And the western hemisphere. Okay. So everything over here, everything including Greenland, including Canada, including Mexico, every part of this area belongs to United States. Therefore, you cannot trade with any of these countries without American permission, without paying a tribute to the Americans. And that this is why that the Americans have parked onethird of their naval assets in the Caribbean today. It's to it's to tell the Chinese and the Russians, back off. If you want to come here, you either pay a tribute or you'll be attacked. Okay, that's the first point of the strategy. The Western Hemisphere belongs to America. Something that they call the Donro doctrine. Okay, which is Trump's corollary to the Monroe Doctrine. And so that's point one. Point two is that America wants to re-imagine its relationship with its allies. Basically, NATO needs to pay for its own defense. NATO needs to go fight Russia in Ukraine. America will provide support. It'll provide weapons and financing, but NATO needs to do more work. And in East Asia, South Korea and Japan need to do better job of keeping China in check. Okay, point two. Point three is specific to China. And the idea is the United States does not want to destroy China. The United States does not want to humiliate China, but China needs to be put in its place. China needs to respect the power and the reach of the United States. And how the United States is going to do this is by strangling China economically. Right? So you look at at a map of China, most of its trade goes to something called the sh of Malaa. And the sh of Malaca is the most important maritime choke point in the world. All America has to do is park naval carriers inside the Jamaala and China will lose 90% of its energy exports.

[Host]: But if they parked them there, China would still go through. No.

[Professor Jiang]: No. Because you have to go for the straight Maka. So America has something called the first island chain. Okay. The first island chain prevents China from reaching the Pacific Ocean. The first island chain includes South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, the Philippines, and Malaysia. That blocks China from reaching out into into the Pacific. So in order for it to access trade, it has to go through the SH of Malaca. And for the Malaka, it can access uh India, Africa, and the uh Middle East. Okay. Right. And so by positioning naval carriers inside the Shalaka, it creates a blockade and China would have to pay a toll in order to access um the Shalaka. And the fourth one and the fourth one is to um rejuvenate reinvigorate America's defense manufacturing sector. So supercharge the US defense industrial base. That's exactly correct. Yes. All right. So, what this means is that the Pentagon a few weeks ago went to Detroit and talked to Ford and General Motors and said, "You know what? Because of this war in Iran, we might need you to stop making cars and start making more munitions."

[Host]: How do you know they said that?

[Professor Jiang]: They published it. Yes. Really? Yes. And they're happy doing this because the profit margins are much greater for weapons than for for cars. This is a Pentagon. So you can charge them as much as you want and they'll pay for it. Whereas you make cars, it's for the consumer market and they may not buy your cars. Right. So So you're like Ford or General Motors, the best deal in the world is to go make weapons for the Pentagon to fight these wars in the Middle East that can go on for forever. So, so, so we have the situation where, okay, look, if you read the news, if you talk to a lot of people, Trump's an idiot, and this war in Iran makes no sense at all. But then, if you just read the National Defense Strategy that is on the Department of War website, and anyone can go there and download it for free and read it themselves, it's a very clear road map of what America needs to do in order to maintain imperial hijgemony. And so let let's let let's just summarize the major points. The first major point is to maintain control over the western hemisphere and create a fortress America. Which is why he invaded Venezuela and he says he's going to invade Cuba. Exactly. And also Greenland. Look at all the countries that he's named over the past year. Greenland, Canada, Mexico, Venezuela, Cuba, Colombia, Nicaragua, Honduras. It's all the Western Hemisphere, right? And they're all together. Second point is to create divide and rule all around the world. So imagine a situation where in Europe, NATO fights Russia in Ukraine. In East Asia, China fights South Korea and Japan. In the Middle East, Iran fights the GCC allied with Israel. What does America do? America can now sell sell sell everyone weapons and resources and finance it. This would be back to World War III.

[Host]: But it makes them weaker as well generally.

[Professor Jiang]: That's the point. Right. And then what would happen is that $40 trillion that America has in debt, it would disappear because it would be absorbed by the world. Right. So you can say look Trump's an idiot. But if you actually look at a map and how America wants this map, this world map to play out, it makes perfect sense.

[Host]: So the war is going well for Trump. Really? Yes. But you said in your prediction that he would lose the war, right? What's your definition of lose the war?

[Professor Jiang]: Losing the war means that America would send ground troops. Iran would survive this invasion and this would be so politically damaging that chaos breaks out the United States and the US guard invasion is forced to retreat and the United States is forced to retreat from the Middle East.

[Host]: And you still think that's going to happen?

[Professor Jiang]: I still think that's going to happen. Yes. Okay. So, let me explain to you why ground troops has to be sent. Okay. All right. Okay. So, in phase one of this war which started February 28th which lasted for about 6 weeks, the intention was to decapitate the regime. And you do that by striking Tran and you do that by striking the military bases in installations throughout Iran. It's it's what the Americans call sharp and all. And the point is to force the Iranians to call uncle. But that's not what happened. To give up basically because what the Iranians did was they responded by attacking US bases throughout the GCC. They closed off a straight of Humus and they rallied their people. Okay. So rather than surrender, the Iranians basically double down. Okay, that's phase two of the war. Now we've gone to phase three of the war where Trump has basically decided that decapation does not work. And so what Trump's going to do is he's going to impose a naval blockade on Iran's naval blockade. Right? And so the question then is if Trump understands that decapitation does not work then using game theory.

[Host]: What's game theory?

[Professor Jiang]: Game theory is the belief that all the world is governed by rules and incentives. And once you understand the rules and incentives, you can predict how people behave because people will always behave according to their best interest. So in geopolitics, the nation states are individual players and each nation state is trying to use its resources and um its advantages in order to pressure other nation states to obey it. Okay, so Trump recognizes that the Iranians have closed off the circle of moves, but not only that, but the Iranians have also used the circle of moves to finance the war, meaning that now they're forcing ships to pay a toll of $2 million in order to cross it. And so this is a huge advantage for the Iranians. And so Trump has said, "No, I'm going to blockade your blockade, negating Iran's advantage over the certical moves." So we think about it again using game theory. I want to discuss what the Americans will do in order to force uh the Iranians to capitulate. Okay. So I would say there's a three point strategy. The first strategy is economic strangulation. you basically destroy the state's capacity to finance the war. And there are two ways that Iran is financing the war so far. The first is using oil exports, right? 90% of Iran's oil goes to China and um this is Car Island. Okay, this this little spot here is Car Island. And this is where Iran will export 90% of its oil overseas. That's the first mechanism. Second mechanis mechanism is sit who moves where the RA now can collect tolls right. So what you have to do is you have to eliminate both of these finance mechanisms. You can close off both with a name of locket. Okay. So that's strategy one. strategy two is you need to create as much chaos within Iran as possible. You want to turn this fortress into a prison. And the way you do that is by stirring up ethnic tensions in the country. So if you look at a map, ethnic map of Iran, what you'll discover is that the Persian people are primarily in this area in the middle of the country. But if you go to the borderlands, okay, the border areas, it's it's primarily ethnic minorities. And there are two ethnic minorities in the country that have always been problematic for the government. The first problematic people are of color bullocks here uh in south east uh Iran by the Pakistani border. They have a history of insurgency against the government. Okay. Second people that have been problematic are the Kurds who are primarily in the uh northwest of the country. So if you are the US government, if you are the military, your strategy is to establish foreign operating bases in these areas. A foreign operating base is uh a spearhead of the military where you insert ground troops to hold an area. Okay. So in order to resupply in in order to push further into the territory.

[Host]: Okay. So a forward operating base would be the US putting troops into the the northwest and the southeast and then using that as a way to move forward into Iran.

[Professor Jiang]: No, you don't want to move forward into Iran because it's too large. You don't have enough forces to move into Iran. What you want to do is this. You want to establish port operating bases in these areas in order to arm and train ethnic insurgents. Okay, that you can also finance as well. And you do this because you want to turn them into cannon fodder. You for you have to force a response from the Iranian military, right? So if they come in with the army in order to quell these rebellions, that's great because now you can use your air power to decimate the Iranian military. Your problem right now is Iranian military is hiding inside mountains. And so you want to force them out in the open. And so you want to create as many points of tension in the country as possible to force the Iranian military to respond. Right? Does that make sense? Okay. And now your third strategy is to strangle the capital Tran because that's the that's where the political elite are a city of 10 million people. And the way you strangle Tran is you deny them three things. You deny them water, electricity, and food. So you attack power plants. you attack reservoirs, you attack railways that bring um food into the capital. And when you do that, these n these 10 million people in Iran will now oppose the government and demand a political settlement because they need food, uh water, electricity to survive, right?

[Host]: Is there a government?

[Professor Jiang]: Right now, there's a debate as to the true extent of leadership in Iran.

[Host]: Because Trump's recent interviews, he's saying he's he's claiming that the the leadership in Iran are fighting themselves, but then he's also saying in other interviews that there's they don't even know who they're dealing with.

[Professor Jiang]: Exactly. Iran has a very unusual political system in that um it's a theocracy. It's a religious government. It's run by clerics call them moolas. in theory and then there's a parallel system the state apparatus that actually takes care of day-to-day bureaucracy and that's secular. Uh the mas control the morality of the country they also control foreign affairs. So basically um this is important because Iran has two parallel military structures. You have the military but you also have the IRGC. The IRGC are only loyal to the mullas which is the religious part. Exactly. All right. So you have this divide in the in the country where the IRGC see this as a religious war as a crusade to kill the great Satan and they want to fight to the death and the great Satan is the great Satan is the American Empire. Uh which is a source of the misery that I has been suffering for the past few decades. And they already see not only do they see America as great Satan, but they also see this as a global conflict because they have proxies that support their beliefs, including here in Lebanon, Hezbollah, including here in Yemen, the Huies, and of course in Palestine, Hamas. Okay. and and before Syria was also part of their axis of resistance but Syria has been toppled by the Americans and and Israelis. So the IRGC see this as a religious crusade that is global in nature. The political leadership in Tran sees it completely different. They see this as a conflict primarily between America and Iran and they want to reach a political settlement as soon as possible. And so in other words, these ceasefire negotiations, it's really all for show because at the end of the day, even if the Americans gave the Iranians everything they wanted, the RTC still controls um the battlefield and they would not um surrender or or seek peace terms lightly. Another problem in this situation is the RTC practice something called the Mosiaak strategy. Mosiaak. The idea of the Moak strategy is okay you know the Americans the most effective military ever in human history. You know that they practice shock and all decapitation. So how do you respond to that? You respond to that using decentralization. 31 provinces in the country with their own command and control that is localized. So basically they have 31 different armies that have their own leadership. That's correct. Okay. And when you do this it's a fight to the finish.

[Host]: Why did they do that? They did it because the Americans possess the most sophisticated surveillance technology in the world. meaning they can easily identify the leadership and they can easily track you down and kill you. So the only way around that is to decentralize the leadership and spread around the country so that the Americans cannot kill the everyone. How does the central government orchestrate 31 different armies in Iran? How does it get a message out to them? I heard Peter Hexf make a a comment in one of the interviews saying that it takes some time for the pigeons to get out to the armies. And what he was saying basically is that um when the ceasefire was called and there was still some um missiles flying, he was basically saying that's just because it takes a long time to tell the 31 different armies to stop.

[Professor Jiang]: The reality is that given a MOS strategy, there's actually no way to coordinate these 31 different military operations. Because the Musk strategy was meant to was meant to fight to the bird of air. You do not stop until you completely control the Middle East and the Americans have been forced out of the Middle East and Israel has been humbled. Okay, so let's go into the specifics of what the Mosak strategy is. The idea is that they have an esquetology. Okay. So, esquetology is an understanding of how the world should be and how we move towards this world. And for the Iranians, their esquetology is that Iran in order to reach its true potential needs to be master of the Muslim world. It needs to displace Saudi Arabia because Saudi Arabia it's too aligned with the United States which is the great Satan. Mecca and Medina are under the influence of the great Satan because why are there US military bases in Saudi Arabia? So this war from their perspective, it's a great opportunity to overthrow the corrupt leadership of Saudi Arabia, but not only Saudi Arabia, but the entire GCC. Overthrow the corrupt governments of the entire Muslim world and install governments that put God Allah first. So they're they're not going to quit Iran. This war once it starts can only lead to World War III.

[Host]: That's a strong statement to make. As a probability, okay, what probability would you assign to that claim?

[Professor Jiang]: I would put it pretty high. Anywhere between 80 to 90% probability. Basically certainty. Yes.

[Host]: Explain to me how that happens.

[Professor Jiang]: Okay. So we need to step back and appreciate um that there's a global dynamic going on. Okay. And we need to appreciate the grand strategy of the different players involved. Right? So what what I'm going to do is this. I'm going to explain to you how each nation sees itself in the world. Okay? And to do that, I'm going to use a chess set. Okay. Okay. All right. This is the king. This is the political system of the United States, which is democracy. And there are certain strengths and weaknesses to a democracy. Democracy is vibrant. It's creative. It's flexible. But its ultimate weakness is polarization where today um the different political factions refuse to get along. And this may break out the civil war. Okay. Mhm. So, the way you defeat the United States is not to conquer it. You can never call the United States. The way to defeat the United States is to force it into a civil war, which then kills the king to get its people to rise up against the leadership. No, you want the Democrats and the Republicans to form different factions and fight a civil war. Okay? You you want to create so much political polarization the different elite factions take up arms against each other. Okay? So, this is the political system. Okay, but democracy. Now let's look at the queen. What is the queen? The queen is what I refer to as the grand strategy of the United States. How the United States can maintain its control over the entire world. And the grand strategy, it's already outlined in the national defense strategy, right? Let's create Fortress America and then create chaos throughout the entire world so that we can sell everyone weapons and resources. Okay, that's a grand strategy. All right. All right. Now, once you have a grand strategy, you need you need to implement this grand strategy. So, you need attack vectors. All right. The attack vectors are the rook, the bishop, and the knight. All right. So, let's go over the three major attack vectors of the United States. They are first of all, America's technological supremacy. So, these are the basically the tools that they use to attack others. Exactly. In order to achieve their grand strategy, right? All right. So, aeros supremacy, right? Which is the planes and the stuff like that. Then you have the US dollar, right? Because the US dollar allows you to finance everything and everyone wants the um uh US dollar. Okay. Mhm. So, that is the second attack vector. The third attack vector is propaganda. mean United States controls the world's most powerful media including New York Times, CNN and as such they can control the narrative of the world. Okay, so these are the three major attack vectors. Now they use the pawns. The pawns are weapons that they can sacrifice in order to achieve the grand strategy. And in the case of United States, the pawn are the allies. meaning I had to say this but the UK um Europe, South Korea and Japan. Okay. And also the entire Western Hemisphere. This is the America the Americans. Okay. The people who are most opposed to this grand strategy of Americans are the Russians. So let's go over the the Russian system. In the Russian system, the king, the political system is an autocracy. And an autocracy, it's good because it allows for coronation. It allows for decisiveness. It allows for um resolve, long-term thinking. Exactly. Right. That's Putin. What's bad is if this guy dies, there's a secession crisis, right? So basically once you topple the autocrat, then the system itself breaks down. Okay? So that's the Russian system, right? For the Russians, a great strategy is something called the third Rome strategy. The third Rome strategy. Yes. Okay. So the people in Russia believe that they are the true successors to the Roman Empire and previously there are two Romes. It was the first Rome then it moved to Kalanapole and Moscow is destined to the to be the third Rome. And what makes Moscow interesting is that it wants to unite the entire Christian world under its leadership. Um the main philosopher for the third Rome strategy is Aern Dugan who in 1997 wrote a wrote a book called foundation of geopolitics. And what he said was this. What he said that if Russia is to defeat the Americans, it needs to build alliances throughout Eurasia in order to negate American sea power and aerosy. All right. So what are the attack vectors for Russia? Okay. The first attack that door, the size of the country makes it almost invincible. So think about World War II, Operation Bar Rosa. The Germans went into Russia with 67 million men and it didn't get very far. Okay? So the Trin is very important. The geography is very important. Then you have the Orthodox religion which is meant to galvanize believers into supporting Russia. The third attack vector is artillery. So Russia has the best land army in the world and we we're seeing that play out in Ukraine where um a combination of Russian artillery and drones it's devastating Ukrainian military in Ukraine. The pause for Russia are are its soldiers. So Russia is able to sustain many many casualties in its military. If you actually go and interview Russian soldiers, they are probably the bravest soldiers in the world. They are literally not afraid to die for what they believe in. Okay. So, this is the um Russian third Rome strategy. You can see how it conflicts with the Americans. Mhm. Okay. Now, we go to the Israelis. Jerusalem, the capital, it's a mixed system, meaning it's both democracy as well as a theocracy. And it's good in that the Israelis are very creative. But the fundamental weakness is the division within the society where Tel Aviv and Jerusalem don't get along. Okay. So that is the belief system of Israel. The grand strategy of Israel is called the greater Israel project. So the Israelis believe that the entire Middle East belongs to them from the Nile to the Euphrates because that's what it says in the Bible. This is what God Yahweh promised Abraham. So their intention is to conquer the entire Middle East including Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, even parts of Turkey. Okay. Now let's look at the attack vectors for the the the the um Israelis. The first attack vector is Mossad. Mossad is the most powerful intelligence agency in the world in that it is able to infiltrate and undermine different political systems. And the Assad for anyone that doesn't know is their secret service basically. Yes. Their spy system. Second attack vector for the Israelis is the Jewish diaspora because the Jews do business everywhere around the world and Jewish businessmen work very closely with Mossad and as such they have influence in a lot of places that they shouldn't have. And the um third um attack vector is the Bible. Why? Because if you're a christian, and there are many christians who believe this, you believe that the Jews are God's chosen people. So if you look at what's happening in uh the Middle East, um all this conflict between Israel and Palestine, a lot of this conflict is being supported politically in the United States by a group of people called Christian Zionists. And these are Christians. They're not Jews. Christians who believe that Israel should treat achieve the greater Israel project because this is part of God's plan and the pawns for the Israelis are basically everyone else. Okay. So, a lot of the hardware underpinning the global IT infrastructure um is being controlled by the Israelis. So now we go to the fourth player in this great game and that's Iran. So Iran, it is a theocracy. People are not afraid to die for what they believe in in Iran. But the weakness is that it can alienate the majority of the population because only a minority are religious zealots in Iran. Most people just want to live to live a decent life. So if they feel that these mas the IRGC are a threat to their peace and prosperity then they might rise up against the mas which is what we've seen over the years. Right. Exactly. So so this political system of the um Iranians their grand strategy is to unite the Muslim world under leadership. They have three attack vectors. Okay. The first attack vector are their proxies. Hezbollah, Hamas and the Houthies. Another attack vector um is their asymmetrical warfare, meaning using drones and missiles to create as much economic damage as possible. Okay. And the third attack vector is their geography or their top topography. They are a fortress. So it's almost impossible to um in invade them. Right? So that's their Shia militi. these religious zealots who are not afraid to die. Um, essentially they're all many of them could be suicide bombers. Okay? And and so for them, this is a religious war. Okay? So now we're seeing how this entire battlefield unfolds across the world. All right? So I've mapped out the grand strategy of these different nation states who will be involved in World War III.

[Professor Jiang]: America doesn't really care about this war in Iran because what America wants to do is force entire world to become dependent on American weapons and resources and you do that in two ways. The first is you control the strategic choke points of the world and they include the sh of kumus but you also want to control the sh of mala right over here because that blocks off east Asia. You also want to control the panama canal. You also want to control Greenland. You also want to control the sh of uh Jibralar. You can see the American Navy expanding outwards and occupying all these maritime choke points. At the same time, you want to use your technological supremacy, your aerial supremacy, your drones to destroy the world's critical energy infrastructure. Already, we're seeing oil refineries being destroyed throughout the world. Oil refineries. Oil refineries. Yes. So, you as as America, you're trying to deplete the world's energy in inventory. So, they're forced to beg you for to supply energy, right? And once this market is created, then you can build infrastructure for Venezuela. You can take over Canada. You can control Mexico. You can take take over Greenland. Okay? The Russians have no choice but to respond because if the Americans are controlling the shooting control points, your shuttle fleet is rendered redundant, useless. So, how do you ship your oil around the world? Well, you have two options. I'm just going to build railways to unite the Eurasian continent, okay? And I'm I'll transport my oil using pipelines and railways. The problem with that is not is now that you're vulnerable to American aerosy drone attacks. So, you have no choice but to arm your shuttle fleet. And now what's gonna happen is this conflict in the oceans between Russian shuttle fleet tankers that are trying to transport oil around the world and these American destroyers who are trying to capture or destroy these shadow tankers. Now the advantage that Russia has is that America doesn't have that much naval assets anymore. It used to but not anymore. The other thing is that the world really needs energy. So you can imagine China financing the militarization of the Russian shuttle fleet. Why would sir why would the US try and stop Russian boats?

[Professor Jiang]: Because um in this global outlook there are two nations that could provide weapons and resources to the rest of the world. They are Russia and they are America. So if America has become dominant, it needs to blockade Russia. The way you do that is by seizing their shuttle fleet.

[Host]: But but if that happened, that would be an act of war.

[Professor Jiang]: But it's already happening. Iranian tankers have been seized by the Americans and tankers are being seized in the Caribbean as well by the American Navy.

[Host]: Whose tankers?

[Professor Jiang]: I believe they are Russian tankers. Yes. The United States has indeed been seizing tankers linked to Russia. A major escalation occurred earlier this year on January the 7th, 2026 when the US military and Coast Guard intercepted two sanctioned shadow fleet oil tankers. While one was seized directly in the Caribbean, the other involved a dramatic chase that started in the Caribbean and ended in the North Atlantic. US forces captured this sanctioned tanker during a pre-dawn raid directly in the Caribbean Sea. The US military described it as stateless sanctioned dark fleet vessel which was engaged in illicit activities. These seizures are part of operation southern spear, a strict enforcement of the US embargo on Venezuelan oil exports. Both vessels were targeted for violating US sanctions by transporting illicit crude oil linked to Venezuela as well as Iran and Hezbollah.

[Host]: And as you point out, this is an act of war. So those were ships that didn't have a country linked to them directly. That's why they're called shuttle fleet tankers. Okay. Yes. But they essentially Russian, but they were essentially shipping oil outside of the United States that the United States wouldn't control. Is that kind of that? That is correct. Yes. Okay. Yes. So So the US said, "Listen, this is our oil. Get lost." That is correct. Yes. Right. So what the United States is doing is slowly expanding its global reach. The way it's doing that is by setting treaties with nations that are part of these choke points. So the Malaa recently United States has signed a military cooperation agreement with Indonesia and with the Jialter uh the Americans have signed an agreement now with Morocco right so they are looking for the legal framework justification to control the world's choke points which would bring them directly in conflict with the Russian shuttle fleet. So at some point you think the way that the war starts is the US Navy attacks a Russian boat. So I personally believe that this will be a drawn out process that and there's no real concrete flash point because not only are Russian shuttle flanker shuttle um fleet tankers being seized but remember Russian or foundaries are being destroyed by Ukrainian drones. The Russians believe that it is NATO that is responsible for the sabotage. So what when what do you think the catalyst moment is when this all kicks off?

[Professor Jiang]: I think we're already in the catalyst moment. I think we're already in World War III because um this conflict it's going to expand outwards uh into a global conflict and there's nothing anyone can do to stop this, right? Because again you have these different competing visions of how the world should work and the Americans and Russians are already at conflict with each other. So the next step will be the Russians come into this war on the side of the Iranians. Do you think that's going to happen? I think that's going to happen because according to Russian grand strategy, you have no choice but to save the Iranians because you're trying to promote this view that the world is split between the spiritual and the material. The Americans are the antichrist. The Americans support individual hedenism. Whereas we Russians, we believe in humanity. We believe in goodness. We believe in community. Right? So if you believe if you if that is your argument, if that's your grand strategy, then you have a moral ob obligation, a moral imperative to help the Iranians in their time of need. And in fact, prime prime minister uh Arachi of of Iran has recently visited Putin in Moscow. Putin Putin personally received him and said to Rachi, "We the Russian people admire your determination, your resolve um against the Americans." And I think that is a sign that Putin has entered the chat and that the Russians will start to help the Iranians as this war progresses. So let's go back to this map. Okay. Okay. And the Americans have a threeprong strategy to strangle um Iran. The first is use ground forces to establish sport operating bases to incite ethnic violence in the country. The second is to block officer of Humus and cut off Iranian financing. The third is to strangle pan and cause the people to rise up against the government. Okay. If the Russians, so if things stay the same as they are now, America wins easily. But if Russia were to enter the war on behalf of the Iranians, the first thing that Russia would do is provide Tran with reinforcement from the Caspian Sea, right? Because the Americans want to knock out Tran's capacity to provide food, water, and electricity to its people. But uh through the fastman sea, the Russians can support the uh Iranians. But not only that, and this is much more important, if the Russians were to come in, they could also bring the Chinese into the war on behalf of the Iranians. And the Chinese could use the belt and rolling initiative, basically the railway system to reinforce Tran from uh the east. So now you can no longer strangle Tran because the Russians and the Chinese are reinforcing Tran. Then what the Russians could do is provide financing to Iranians. Basically the Iranian the Chinese sorry the Chinese and the Russians can say to Iranians don't worry about financing. We will give you enough uh financing for you to continue this war for as long as you want and we'll use our resources as collateral for this financing. Right? And the third thing, and this is actually the most important, is that Russia could put Iran under its nuclear umbrella. And this would negate the use of tactical nuclear weapons. The Israelis and the Americans, if they really felt under pressure, if they really put in a corner, they could always choose to use tactical nuclear weapons. If the Russians were involved, that negates that option, right? So if the Russians get involved in this war, they bring the Chinese, they provide, they provide the resources and the financing to continue this war for as long as it takes. Mhm. Right. And now the Americans need to expand this war on the world to try now to topple the government in Russia because the Russians are the main backers of the Iranians. And you're predicting that Russia will get involved here. According to the grand strategy of Russia, the Russians have no choice but to get involved because what will happen is that if you look at this map, if Iran were to be conquered by the Americans or the Israelis, the entire southern flank of the Russians are now exposed to possible attack. And that's that's something that the Russians would never allow to happen. the sovereign fact. So what this from underneath basically right right but not only that but the Americans already have close relations with Azan and they already have bases in Tbkasan as well as Ubekistan right so you can see how once the Americans consolidate this area they can now attack Russia from the south but what's most important is the issue of global trade where like a counter to America's n blockade is by creating a uranian Ian trade block that involves Iran, Russia and China. You look at Russia's north south corridor, right? You look at China's you look at Russia's north south corner, it runs through Iran. If Russia wants to access the Middle East as well as Africa, it has to go for Iran. You look at China's battle road initiative, it goes through Iran as well. So by taking out Iran, you've blockaded both Russia and China.

[Host]: So, when do you think this was going to happen? If you get were to give me a timeline of events you think are going to occur, what timeline do you think you're operating under? I guess one of the factors here is that Trump only has what, three years left in power. So, you know, he's presumably going to leave power at some point soon. So, if you're Iran, you might just want to play it out and hope that there's a different leadership in place by by 20 what be 2030.

[Professor Jiang]: The political leadership in Iran believe that they can wait Trump out. So they're waiting for the midterms because they believe that in November the Democrats will win the midterms and then they will impeach Trump and basically constrain his capacity to fight wars. And worst case scenario, Trump will be gone in 2028. As you point out, there are certain problems with this. The first major problem is the national defense strategy, which we looked at previously. the national defense strategy. It is a long-term strategic framework for how America can control the world. And so one possibility is that Trump is just creating enough chaos for America to trans to transition. When the Democrats come to power, if they come to power, they will institutionalize the strategy. And we know this as a possibility because in Trump's first term, he changed America's strategy around the world. And then when Biden came into power, he then institutionalized the strategy uh via v China, right? So it was Trump who launched these this tariff war against China and then finally comes in power institutionalizes it. Right? So, I think World War III, it's a much more long-term uh war of attrition, and I don't think that this war um will end anytime soon. You've made a series of new predictions. You've made eight new predictions. Okay. And I have them in this box here. Okay. I'll let you reveal what those predictions are. Okay. Um this is one prediction. Okay. Okay. So, this is the most controversial prediction. Okay. I predict that there will be a US civil war and Trump will get a third term.

[Host]: You think Trump will get a third term? Isn't that constitutionally illegal?

[Professor Jiang]: There are things that are unconventional and immoral and wrong and evil and dangerous and there are certain things that are illegal. Trump getting a third term is not illegal. So, let me explain the loophole. What Trump could do is this. Okay, there there are two possibilities. The first possibility is in 2028 he has his son Don Jr. run as a president and he runs as the vice president. And then when Don Jr. wins, if he wins, then Don Jr. could abdicate and Trump would be the president. And in the constitution, if you read the constitution very carefully, it doesn't actually prohibit people from doing that. It's not been done in the past. And like no sane person with any morality would do this. But that doesn't stop Trump from from doing this. Okay, that's one possibility. Another possibility is that by 2028, America is at war with everyone. There's a national draft. The president now has emergency war powers and so he can actually suspend the constitution and delay the election, which is what Zilinski did in Ukraine. So these are two different possibilities. But I think that given Trump's track record, given his personality, I think he very much um wants a third term. And I think that he will do everything possible to get a third term. He would turn 83 years old in the same year that he finishes his second term. This is a man who eats McDonald's hamburgers every day. He doesn't really work out. Yet on the campaign trail, he's able to go to two rallies a day. And in each rally, there's 50,000 people, and he will talk on and on and on. Then at night when he he should be sleeping, he's either on truth social tweeting about the world or he's calling up reporters and telling him or her some confidential information that he really shouldn't be discussing with the media. This is a man who is addicted to attention. This is a man who loves the spotlight. He's lived all his life in the spotlight. For him, death is to be ignored. So given his personality, he would rather die in office than live uh peacefully somewhere else. ... Trump does not trust anyone. ... Well, I think there's a possibility that they figure out how to cheat in 2028. Oh, as in actually cheat at the election, right? So, at the poll booth, right? So, let's go into Trump's mind. All right. his his psychology. In his mind, he won in 2020. The people voted for him, but the Democrats stole the election with mail and ballots and by rigging the election machines. Okay? He in his mind, he literally believes that. So in his mind he believes that this is actually his third term and the people and the government they owe him a second term which is what he wants now. He wants uh compensation for having the election stolen from him in 2020. ... The 22nd amendment explicitly states no person shall be elected to the office of the president more than twice. Some theorists have tried to argue that since the amendment says elected, a person might be able to serve a third term if they were appointed to succeed to the role. Exactly. if they were appointed or succeeded to the role, eg by being vice president first. Legal scholars and the judicial committee almost universally reject this. The 12th amendment requires that anyone serving as vice president must be eligible to be president since a two-term president is ineligible to be elected again. They illegally barred from being vice president. So the point is the there's nothing explicit in the constitution that bars someone from having a third term and there's debate in the legal community about the spirit of the 22nd amendment. It would go to the Supreme Court, right? And the Supreme Court is controlled right now by the conservatives. Trump appointed three of the nine justices and there's a possibility he gets a fourth later in the year. So it's entirely up to the Supreme Court whether or not he can run. And again, there's something explicit in the constitution that forbids him from running as a vice president. Okay. What's your next prediction? The my second prediction is there will be a grand bargain between United States and China. ... My second prediction is Iran is another forever war and the United States will institute a national draft. ... This is pretty bad. The world will move towards an AI civilian state. I feel like that's already happening. I think it's pretty obvious. Yeah. What does that mean in reality for the average person? ... Right? So, for the average person, it means two things. It means digital ID and digital currency. Okay. So, what that what that will allow is for the government to basically monitor everything you do online and control all financial transactions. it it can basically program your bank account so like you can't buy cigarettes or you can't buy drugs. Um and this will allow the government to basically um categorize everyone and put everyone into a certain database to monitor that person. And once you have once you're able to categorize everyone you're allow then you are you are able to use AI to predict their behavior. Isn't this what goes on in some parts of the world? This is what goes on in China. And that's how I know about this. How does it work in China? Well, in China, we all have digital ID. If you want to access anything in China, you need your digital ID. So, if you want to open a bank account, you have to you have to use um a digital ID. If you want to use any uh e payments, you have to use digital ID. If you want to use a phone, you have to use digital ID. Okay? So, everyone's part of this national database. And then this what this allows government to do is basically monitor everything if you do because basically depending on how you buy things I can then extrapolate to figure out your behavior and then I can figure out your thinking. Right? And then I can create incentives in order to guide and control your behavior. So in China, can they see everything that you do? Yes, they can. messages you send, everything, payments you make, everything, everything. Everything you do online is being recorded and it's being inputed into the database to figure out who you are, what you want, and how to control you. And they think this is progress, by the way. This is progress because I'm making you a better person, right? I'm helping you achieve your dream. I'm helping you lose weight. I'm helping you avoid drugs. I'm helping you work harder.

[Host]: Professor, what's the most important thing we haven't talked about that we should have talked about?

[Professor Jiang]: So let's talk about the nature of reality. To explain the nature of reality, um I'm going to explain Plato's allego the cave, which he talked about in his book, The Republic. Right. Exactly. This book. Yes. The Republic. Okay. One of the masterpieces of Greek civilization as well as Western civilization. All right. So this is how Plato explains the nature of reality. And so he uses a metaphor called the cave. So, I want you to imagine a dark cavern that is huge. And in this cavern, there are hundreds of people lined up together. And they are chained to the ground. Their necks are shackled, so they can't actually move. And all they can do is stare in front of them at a giant wall that's empty. Okay. Now, behind these people, and again, they they can't see behind them, right? It's a great fire. Along the alongside this fire are people, okay, we don't know who they are. Never explains who these people are. They take puppets and they project these puppets off the fire onto the wall. And when people see these shadows, they think that this is reality. And as such, they begin to create narratives to explain this reality. They create language. They give shadows names. They explain where these shadows come from. They create religion. Then these people decide to specialize. So some people who are priests who explain this new religion. There's some people who are poets that talk about the beauty of the shadows. And then you have teachers who teach about the shadows to children. And then over time what happens is that these people fall in love with this reality so that they are addicted to it. So if anyone comes on and says hey guys why don't you look behind you and see it's all just a farce. These people will be so angry that they kill this person. Right? So I'm not sure if you've ever watched a Korean drama. ... So the first thing to appreciate is that everything is a hallucination. And this is something that nor scientists have confirmed. So what we're going to do is we're going to take Plato's algorithm of the cave the framework and then apply it to our reality to understand how it's created. Okay. So in the first layer you need a power a force to put people in change right and this is what we call the military-industrial complex of America as well as the empire. So going back to this example, it's the layer that puts the people into change. But now the second step is you need people to create the reality to direct people's attention to create the game. And this these people are the financial elite, the bank of international settlements based in Basil. So what do they do? These people are the ones who set the the exchange currency rates and they also allow for seamless financial transactions, the swift system basically. Then Wall Street and the city of London were the financiers and then you have the Federal Reserve Federal Reserve system because the Federal Reserve are the people who print money. Okay. Now once you create the rules of the game, you need to create the game itself which is the global economy right global economy and obviously this is a pretty vast system that encompasses everything. Okay. Now you have to explain to people how the global economy works and you cannot tell people oh really there are these secret people working behind the scenes that are projecting shadows onto a wall. So what you do is you create multilateral organizations that pretend to control the global economy and they are the World Bank, the United Nations, WTO. You make them believe that this is all being controlled impartially for our benefit. Now you have to convince people that this system is legitimate. That's when you're actually seeing the shadows on the wall, they're real. That's why you need the media. That's why you need culture such as Hollywood movies basically and you need education school system. Okay, these are the people who are all prisoners who have become leaders of the prisoners and who are helping them understand the shadows on the wall.

[Host]: So am I in the media?

[Professor Jiang]: Yes, you are.

[Host]: Am I? So am I what am I doing? Am I one of the people in the fire controlling the narrative? Is that what?

[Professor Jiang]: Yes. Yes.

[Host]: But but I'm not owned by anybody.

[Professor Jiang]: That's what you think.

[Host]: Oh, really? Who who am I owned by?

[Professor Jiang]: Ultimately, it's the people who control the fire that are in charge, right? So, ultimately, it's these people, the second layer. Okay. The game masters, the financial elite that control everything. Do you want to make money? Then they're controlling you. Okay. Right. Because they control the creation of money. And so now that you have the media, the schools and the cultural systems helping people understand the shadows on the wall. These shadows now become internalized and they dictate the values and norms of people, what they believe to be good and bad. They dictate habits and customs, how you live your life, and they dictate the legal system, who's punished for what. Okay? And this becomes a top edifice. And what's amazing about the system is that in our minds, okay, in our minds, we believe that the system is first of all the complete opposite where un where the foundation is actually the laws, the habits and the values when in fact in reality these are just figments of our imagination. Okay, that's point one. Point two is that this is a very very delicate structure. So if anyone doesn't cooperate okay then this is this NFS collapses because it's a very very delicate system okay and the third thing and this is most important to understand the world that we live in as the system becomes much more wobbly meaning that young people don't really believe in the shadows anymore. Young people grow up and says hm are these shadows really real? They don't feel real to me. The system needs to become much more authoritarian. It needs to force people to believe what they refuse to believe because everyone in a system is incentivized to ensure this edifice is stable.

[Host]: Do you think this is somewhat linked to what's going on with independent media? Because independent media are asking a lot of questions about the way society functions.

[Professor Jiang]: Exactly. And that's why we're seeing governments becoming very worried about independent media because if you have people on the population saying these these shadows are fake, this creates a ripple effect. It causes uh people to start questioning the shadows on the wall. You can't have that. So that's why it's important to have censorship. That's why it's important to deplatform people. That's why you have woke politics, DEI, because it's an enforcement mechanism. ... Look, if you look at the system, no one's really in charge and no one's a villain. They just grow up in the system and everyone's protecting their incentives. Exactly. That's kind of what I mean. ... But the problem is that over time more and more young people are going to grow up and say, "I don't see shadows. I'm pretty sure we're being lied to. In which case, this presents an opportunity to overthrow the system and create a new system. And this is why AI is important.