气候冲击如何瓦解经济:超越传统经济模型的洞察 TED 2025-12-08

气候冲击:经济学与科学之间的鸿沟

2021年是自然灾害频发的一年。那一年,巴基斯坦的洪水夺走了1700人的生命,欧洲则开始了500年来最严重的干旱。

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2021 was a bad year for natural disasters. That was the year that floods killed 1,700 people in Pakistan and Europe began what would be the worst drought in 500 years.

也正是在那一年,我的一位客户问我:“解决气候变化真的值得吗?”
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And that was the year one of my clients turned to me and said, "Is it really worth solving climate change?"

他是一位投资者,想了解我们在实现**净零排放**(Net Zero: 指通过减少温室气体排放和清除大气中的温室气体,使温室气体净排放量为零)所需的数万亿美元投资中能获得怎样的经济回报。
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Well, look, he was an investor. What he wanted to understand was the economic return on the trillions of dollars we have to spend to get to net zero.

这是一个好问题,也有一个很好的答案,但我同时也发现了一个问题。
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So that's a good question, right? And there's a good answer. But I also found a problem.

那就是科学与经济学之间存在巨大鸿沟。
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You see, there's a huge gap between the science and the economics.

科学是令人担忧且极其详细的。
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The science is scary, and it’s really detailed.

科学告诉我们,我们正在告别12000年的气候稳定期。
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The science tells us that we're leaving 12,000 years of climate stability behind us.

那些洪水和干旱将变得更加频繁和强烈。
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Those floods and those droughts are going to get more frequent and more intense.

农作物可能会歉收,渔业可能会崩溃。
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Crops may fail. Fisheries collapse.

然而,当我们转向经济学时,所有这些动荡和破坏似乎都在“翻译”中丢失了。
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But then when you turn to the economics, all that turbulence and that kind of disruption just seems to get lost in translation.

你看到的图表曲线总是异常平滑:气温上升,增长稳步下降。
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You find yourself looking at graphs with suspiciously smooth curves: rising temperatures, steadily declining growth.

这些图表确实告诉我们一些非常重要的事情。
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Now those graphs do tell us something really important.

全球变暖与我们建设、制造和完成事务的能力之间确实存在联系,而且由此造成的损害会迅速变得非常巨大。
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There really is a connection between global warming and our ability to build things and make things and just get things done, and the damages from that get really big, really quickly.

但是,当我将这些分析转化为给客户的第一张**万亿级美元幻灯片**(Quadrillion-dollar slide: 指以万亿为单位的巨额经济损失估算,强调其巨大规模)时,他却无动于衷。
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But when I turned that analysis into my first quadrillion-dollar slide for my client, it left him cold.

你看,经济学的问题在于它虽然稳健,但在解释气候变化如何实际影响实体经济中的企业和家庭方面做得并不好。
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You see, the problem with the economics is that it's robust, but it doesn't actually do a very good job of explaining how, in practice, climate change will impact businesses and households in the real economy.

这就是为什么你期望看到、也需要看到的那种动荡和破坏,如果想做好准备的话,似乎就消失了。
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And that's why all that turbulence and disruption you expect to see, that you actually need to see if you want to prepare, seems to disappear.

所以,这就是我今天想和大家讨论的。
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So that's what I want to talk to you all about today.

想象一下,我们对气候变化对经济的影响的理解,能像我们对气候变化本身的理解一样透彻、令人信服和有用。
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Imagine we had as good an understanding of the impact of climate change on the economy as we have of climate change itself. Just as convincing and just as useful.

超越直接损失:追踪金融涟漪效应

让我们从自然灾害开始。大型保险公司估计,自然灾害每年造成约2000亿至3000亿美元的直接损失。

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So let's start with natural disasters. The big insurers estimate that natural disasters cause about 200 to 300 billion dollar's worth of damages, direct damages, every year.

这些数字无疑更具体,你可以从数据中看到倒塌的桥梁和被淹的矿井。
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And these numbers are certainly more tangible. You know, you can see the collapsed bridges and the flooded mines in the data.

但它们也是不完整的。
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But they're also incomplete.

那些依赖矿井的工厂的收入损失在哪里?那些需要桥梁才能上班的工人的收入损失又在哪里?
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Where are the lost revenues for the factories that relied on that mine, or the lost income for the workers that needed that bridge to get to work?

事实上,如果我们将这些数字与那张万亿级美元的幻灯片进行比较,我们会发现我们遗漏了大约80%的问题。
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In fact, if we compare those numbers with that quadrillion-dollar slide, we can see we're missing about 80 percent of the problem.

所以,我们需要做的是退后一步,然后关注那些将公司联系在一起并实际将气候影响传导至整个经济的商业关系和金融机制。
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So this is what we need to do. We need to take a bit of a step back and then we need to focus on the commercial relationships, the financial mechanisms that actually link companies together and transmit climate impacts around the economy.

因此,现在我们不再追逐飓风在实体基础设施中肆虐,而是追踪它们在金融基础设施中产生的涟漪效应。
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So now, instead of chasing hurricanes as they rampage through the physical infrastructure, we're going to trace them as they reverberate through the financial infrastructure.

我知道追逐飓风听起来更有趣,但老实说,这才是你开始看到我们正在寻找的那种动荡和破坏的时候。
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And I know chasing hurricanes sounds more fun, but honestly, this is when you're going to start seeing some of that turbulence and that disruption that we're looking for.

以美国东南部为例。我们都知道飓风经常给沿海地区造成数十亿美元的损失。
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So take the American southeast. We all know that hurricanes regularly cause billions of dollars of damage along the coast.

但影响并未就此停止。
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But it doesn't stop there or then.

结果是整个地区的保险费都在上涨。
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Insurance premiums are rising as a result across the region.

许多家庭,特别是那些低收入家庭,其中许多人实际上住在内陆,无法承担上涨的费用。
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And many households, particularly those on low income, many of whom are actually inland, can't keep up.

因此,我们现在看到抵押贷款违约和信用卡拖欠率上升。
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So now we see rising mortgage defaults and credit card delinquency.

这给另一类金融机构带来了问题。
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And this is causing problems for another set of financial institutions.

再以咖啡行业为例。2021年又是一个糟糕的年份。
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Or take the coffee industry. In 2021, again, it was a bad year.

一场严重的霜冻和干旱导致巴西的咖啡产量下降了20%。
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A major frost and drought caused coffee production in Brazil to fall by 20 percent.

但全球咖啡价格在一周内上涨了30%,然后继续上涨。
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But prices went up 30 percent globally, in just one week. And then they kept on rising.

为什么?为什么会出现这种过度反应?
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Why? Why this kind of overreaction?

这始于许多农民放弃了他们的**远期合约**(Forward Contracts: 双方约定在未来某一日期以特定价格买卖资产的协议)。
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Well it started when many farmers walked away from their forward contracts.

远期合约本应为咖啡农和咖啡买家之间提供价格稳定性。
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And forward contracts are actually there to provide price stability between coffee farmers, coffee buyers.

但当一些农民在公开市场上看到更高的利润时,他们就让买家陷入了困境。
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But when some farmers saw higher profits available on the open market, they left their buyers in the lurch.

因此,买家无法履行他们在**期货市场**(Futures Market: 交易标准化远期合约的市场)上的后续承诺。
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And so now the buyers can't meet their own onward commitments into the futures market.

他们争相寻找现金以维持这些头寸,并争相寻找新的咖啡供应来满足需求。
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So they're scrambling to find cash to keep those positions open. They're scrambling to find new coffee supplies to meet them.

这导致价格越来越高。
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And it's driving the price up higher and higher.

这些只是气候变化如何在我们的金融基础设施中造成动荡的两个不同例子。
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So these are just two disparate examples of how climate change causes turbulence in our financial infrastructure.

金融基础设施的临界点与崩溃风险

真正令人担忧的是,金融基础设施本身可能会在日益增长的压力下崩溃。

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But the real worry is that the financial infrastructure itself will break under rising pressure.

因为在未来10年,我们将看到比过去10年更多的极端天气。
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Because we're going to see more extreme weather in the next 10 years than we saw in the last 10 years.

这些冲击将越来越大,它们之间的间隔将越来越短。
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Those shocks are going to grow, and the gaps between them are going to shrink.

我们已经可以看到一些预警信号。
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And we can already see some of the warning signs.

现在在佛罗里达州,几家保险公司已经破产或撤离。
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Now in Florida, several insurers have now gone bankrupt or they've pulled out.

现在,该州是佛罗里达州最大的房屋保险提供者,这给其预算带来了压力。
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And now the state is the single largest provider of home insurance in Florida, putting pressure on its budget.

在加利福尼亚州,气候风险正在推高许多地方政府的借贷成本,而这些地方政府恰恰需要投资来预防这些风险。
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In California, climate risks are driving up the cost of borrowing for many of the local authorities that actually need to invest in preventing those risks.

因此,我们可能正走向一个**临界点**(Tipping Point: 指系统从一种稳定状态迅速转变为另一种状态的转折点),届时金融基础设施将无法再管理气候风险。
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So we may be heading towards a tipping point, at which point the financial infrastructure can't manage climate risk anymore.

这不是学术问题,因为如果我们无法管理气候风险,很多事情都将无法进行。
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And this isn't academic, because if we can't manage climate risk, we can't do a lot of things.

想象一下,你无法为你的房子购买保险,又如何能获得抵押贷款呢?
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Imagine trying to get a mortgage on a house that you can't insure. You can't.

或者,你如何能出售一个变得无法投保的房子呢?
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Or sell one that's become uninsurable, for that matter.

从大规模来看,这将是巨大的破坏。
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You know, at scale, this is major disruption.

这并非正常的繁荣与萧条周期,这只是萧条、萧条,然后彻底崩溃。
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And this isn't the normal, you know, boom and bust cycle. This is just bust, bust, broken.

这听起来可能对某些人来说有点夸张,有点极端。
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So ... This may all sound a bit melodramatic to some of you. You know, that extreme. And that's fair enough.

现在确实存在一场非常真实的辩论,一方是越来越多担心这些临界点的声音,另一方则说不用担心,整个金融系统在未来几十年内都能够管理气候风险。
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There's a very real debate right now between a growing set of voices that are worrying about these kinds of tipping points and those that say, don't worry, the financial system as a whole will be able to manage climate risk for many decades to come.

但我认为,对我们而言,这在某种程度上并不重要,因为无论如何,能够更好地预测未来的动荡都将带来巨大的好处。
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But I think for our purposes, in a way it doesn't matter, because there's huge benefit in being able to better anticipate the turbulence ahead, either way.

复杂性经济学与模拟:预测未来的新工具

我认为,更好地预测未来的第一步是认识到我们传统上依赖的许多工具和技术并没有足够的想象力来做到这一点。

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And I think the first step in being able to better anticipate the future is recognizing that many of the kind of tools and techniques that we've traditionally relied on don't really have the imagination to do so.

它们根植于现状、历史数据和过去的趋势。
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You know, they're really rooted in the status quo, historical data, past trends.

所以我们需要做的是研究其他复杂的动态系统及其研究方法,比如进化生物学或热力学。
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So what we need to do is look to other complex dynamic systems and the way those are studied, like evolutionary biology or thermodynamics.

讽刺的是,还有环境科学、能源网络。
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Ironically, environmental science, energy networks.

而**复杂性经济学**(Complexity Economics: 运用复杂系统理论研究经济现象的跨学科领域)正是这样做的。
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And the field of complexity economics does exactly this, right?

它借鉴了这些其他研究领域的工具和技术,并用它们更好地预测冲击和趋势如何重塑经济。
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It borrows tools and techniques from those other areas of study and uses them to better anticipate how shocks and trends can reshape economies.

当然,气候变化兼具这两种特性,因为你既有生产力下降、风险上升,又被自然灾害打断。
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Of course, climate change is both of those things, right? Because you've got falling productivity, rising risk, punctuated by natural disasters.

这些领域使用的关键工具之一就是模拟。
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And one of the key tools that many of these fields use are simulations.

在这种背景下,你应该将它们视为你正在研究的任何系统的**数字孪生**(Digital Twins: 物理实体或系统的虚拟模型,用于模拟、预测和优化其性能)。
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And in this context, you should be thinking of them as digital twins of whatever system it is that you're studying.

它们由成千上万个虚拟参与者组成,每个参与者都有自己的行为规则,最重要的是,它们之间存在联系。
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They're populated with thousands of virtual actors, each with their own rules of behavior and, critically, the connections between them.

你设置好它们,然后让它们运行。
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You set them up, and you let them run.

你可以用现实来检验它们并进行校准。
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You can test them against reality and calibrate them.

然后你可以进行实验。
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And then you can run experiments.

如果我们采用不同的设置会发生什么?未来会发生什么?
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What would happen if we had a different setup? What will happen in future?

城市规划者使用模拟来证明,有时拆除一条主要道路实际上可以缓解交通拥堵。
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So urban planners use simulations to prove that sometimes demolishing a major road can actually ease traffic congestion.

生态学家使用模拟来展示,即使你已经设定了捕鱼配额,鱼类种群仍然可能崩溃。
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Ecologists use simulations to show why fish stocks can collapse even after you've put fish quotas in place.

这两个结果的重要之处在于它们都是出乎意料的,不符合直觉。
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The important thing about both of those results is that they're unexpected. They're not intuitive.

这正是我们在全球变暖与全球经济交汇之处所需要的。
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And this is what we need, where global warming meets the global economy.

我们需要来自系统思想家、风险建模师和数据科学家的模型。
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From our systems thinkers, from our risk modelers, from our data scientists.

我们需要在未来到来之前就能让我们感到惊讶的模型。
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We need models that surprise us before the future does.

构建韧性:应对未来挑战的双重投资案例

因为一旦我们做到了这一点,我们就可以做很多事情来更好地管理未来的破坏。

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Because once we've done that, there's a whole bunch of things that we can do to better manage the disruption ahead.

我给大家举一个简单的例子。
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I'll give you one quick example.

想象一下,一旦农民遭受自然灾害,保险就会立即向他们支付赔偿。
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Imagine insurance that just pays out to farmers as soon as they're hit by a natural disaster.

他们就能迅速恢复,对客户的影响也最小。
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They're back on their feet, minimal impact on their customers.

这种产品是存在的,它被称为**参数化保险**(Parametric Insurance: 一种基于预设参数触发赔付的保险,而非实际损失评估)。
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Well this product exists, it's called parametric insurance.

但挑战在于如何扩大其规模,因为你必须找到适合成千上万农民的条款,年复一年,一次又一次地应对冲击。
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But the challenge is scaling it up because you've got to find terms that are going to work for thousands, tens of thousands of farmers, year after year, shock after shock.

好的,现在想象一下你有一个咖啡行业的模拟模型,你可以用这些条款来测试过去的冲击和潜在的未来情景。
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OK, but now imagine you've got a simulation of, say, the coffee industry, and you can test those terms against the shocks of the past and about potential futures.

这只是众多创新之一,可以使咖啡行业的金融基础设施更具韧性。
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And that's just one of several innovations that could make the financial infrastructure of the coffee industry more resilient.

我们整个实体经济都需要这种创新。
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And we need exactly that kind of innovation across the real economy.

有了正确的工具,曾经感觉像是一团难以穿透的不确定性迷雾,现在开始感觉像是一片充满机遇的沃土。
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With the right tools, what felt like an impenetrable fog of uncertainty, starts to feel like a landscape ripe for opportunity.

那么,我今天会对我的客户说什么呢?
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So what would I say to my client today?

首先,采取气候行动的经济理由是明确的。
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Well, firstly, the economic case for climate action is clear.

我们谈论的是在现在到2100年之间,保护全球GDP的约25%。
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We're talking about safeguarding maybe 25 percent of global GDP between now and 2100.

但还有第二个投资案例:在构建应对我们即将经历的金融动荡的韧性方面进行投资。
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But there's a second investment case. In building resilience to the financial turbulence that we're going to experience on the way.

因为气候变化现在已不可避免,至少在未来75年内如此。
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Because climate change is now inevitable, at least for the next 75 years.

但经济破坏的规模并非不可改变。
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But the scale of the economic disruption is not.

我们共同构建的模型、新产品和合作将决定我们在此过程中清理混乱需要花费多少,以及我们能够投入多少来真正解决问题。
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And what we build together, the models, the new products, the collaborations, will determine how much we spend clearing up the mess as we go and how much we can invest in actually solving the problem.

非常感谢大家的时间。
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Thank you so much for your time.

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